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Title: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Aparoon on December 10, 2009, 05:44:50 pm: Can you do this on a r36 and how? Cheers :happy2:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: jonnyc on December 10, 2009, 05:55:08 pm: Quote from: Aparoon on December 10, 2009, 05:44:50 pm
Can you do this on a r36 and how? Cheers :happy2:

Remove the vacuum line from the actuator on the exhaust, and block off the line with a screw (or something sutible) to seal it up, and thats it..

Same for all vacuum operated actuators..
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Aparoon on December 10, 2009, 06:10:15 pm: Good man cheers :happy2:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 10, 2009, 06:42:44 pm: i ve just blanked mine off with fitting the milltek , what does this thing do ???
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: jonnyc on December 10, 2009, 06:44:40 pm: Quote from: candy turbo on December 10, 2009, 06:42:44 pm
i ve just blanked mine off with fitting the milltek , what does this thing do ???

Opens up a different route for the exhaust gas to exit in the rear box.. Just makes it 'sporty' over certain RPM's..
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: VC on December 10, 2009, 06:46:58 pm: its a diaphragm that controls the noise levels of the exhaust at certain revs to abide by EU regulations, quite at low revs, open and louder at higher revs

disabling the diaphragm (flapper) by removing the vacuum hose, tie it or fold it and zip tie it up onto the bodywork. then as said just block the hole thats left so its airtight

ive done this for loads of people on their .:R32's - in fact if i dig into photobucket deep enough i might still have the step by step photo guide i did for it if you want it?
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 11:13:46 am: (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golfmkv.com%2Fforums%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D10348%26amp%3Bstc%3D1%26amp%3Bd%3D1178559234&hash=279fcbc3c4d349de4be52bb929c03e4fcb4fa2d1)

Pull the black tube out like so

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Simply plug it with a screw or strong tape and away you go. Sounds awesome at low spee
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: animal on December 11, 2009, 11:33:17 am: Quote from: jonnyc on December 10, 2009, 06:44:40 pm
Quote from: candy turbo on December 10, 2009, 06:42:44 pm
i ve just blanked mine off with fitting the milltek , what does this thing do ???

Opens up a different route for the exhaust gas to exit in the rear box.. Just makes it 'sporty' over certain RPM's..

Jonny, I'm in no way disputing what you are saying as I know nothing about the system but, it does seem odd the that actuator is after the silencer, not before it?

Also, are we just assuming that the R36 uses an identical set-up?
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 11:35:19 am: Yep. AFAIK it just has a different manifold but same back set up.

I think it just simply lets the 'sound' out of one tailpipe and not both at low revs which you can change by blocking it.

Makes a huge difference, the missus thought it was 'ridiculous' as we drove through reagent street last week :signLOL:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: edition_30 on December 11, 2009, 11:43:55 am: Can this be done on the ed?
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Hedge on December 11, 2009, 11:45:47 am: Quote from: edition_30 on December 11, 2009, 11:43:55 am
Can this be done on the ed?

No V6 only. :smiley:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: animal on December 11, 2009, 11:46:36 am: Quote from: Hedge on December 11, 2009, 11:45:47 am
Quote from: edition_30 on December 11, 2009, 11:43:55 am
Can this be done on the ed?

No V6 only. :smiley:

Just chop out the backbox all together.
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Hedge on December 11, 2009, 11:48:29 am: Quote from: animal on December 11, 2009, 11:46:36 am

Just chop out the backbox all together.

3" pipe straight off the turbo. :party:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 11:51:30 am
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: animal on December 11, 2009, 11:55:50 am: Quote from: Hedge on December 11, 2009, 11:48:29 am
Quote from: animal on December 11, 2009, 11:46:36 am

Just chop out the backbox all together.

3" pipe straight off the turbo. :party:

No pipe at all... straight out the turbo flange! :laugh: Should be enough to drown out the Ed30's obese sister.
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Hedge on December 11, 2009, 11:57:42 am: Quote from: animal on December 11, 2009, 11:55:50 am
No pipe at all... straight out the turbo flange! :laugh: Should be enough to drown out the Ed30's obese sister.

Side exit then just behind the passenger front wheel. :driver:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: animal on December 11, 2009, 12:01:52 pm: Quote from: Hedge on December 11, 2009, 11:57:42 am
Quote from: animal on December 11, 2009, 11:55:50 am
No pipe at all... straight out the turbo flange! :laugh: Should be enough to drown out the Ed30's obese sister.

Side exit then just behind the passenger front wheel. :driver:

You win... :booty:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 12:44:19 pm: I dunno

:signLOL:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Hedge on December 11, 2009, 12:52:46 pm: Jules. :notworthy: :signLOL:

I must admit that's a wee bit too noisy for me.
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: animal on December 11, 2009, 01:20:50 pm: :surprised:

Just doesn't sound right on an R though does it? Too high pitch - it's the deeper burble of the the R that I love.
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: tony_danza on December 11, 2009, 01:36:39 pm: Is this to do to Gaz's when his back is turned, or are you thinking of buying a super-sledge like his too?

I drove it back from Wales recently, HUGE fun!
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Aparoon on December 11, 2009, 01:50:47 pm: Quote from: tony_danza on December 11, 2009, 01:36:39 pm
Is this to do to Gaz's when his back is turned, or are you thinking of buying a super-sledge like his too?

I drove it back from Wales recently, HUGE fun!

Yeah for gaz's car, had a go of it yesterday it is lovely, i'd read about this mod on r32's so thought it could go well on the r36... You think he'll go for it??

I think i'll give the HUGE fuel and tax bill a miss lol :scared:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 03:37:26 pm: I would litteraly stab a baby for a turbo R36 estate :drool:

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Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: animal on December 11, 2009, 04:18:26 pm: Quote from: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 03:37:26 pm
I would litteraly stab a baby for a turbo R36 estate :drool:

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Harsh....

...but fair.
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:07:05 pm: the S3 has the flapper thing i wish i had known about this before i got the milltek :confused:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 08:11:15 pm: Quote from: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:07:05 pm
the S3 has the flapper thing i wish i had known about this before i got the milltek :confused:

Im sure the miltek sounds better than just the flapper mate. The car sounds the same higher up, just louder lower down.
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:14:44 pm: its really quiet tbh more so than oem at low revs or on the motorway , but sounds nice with a bit of pedal !! hoping the downpipe and cat in the new year lift the volume slightly :happy2:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 08:19:10 pm: :grin:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: gazbutS3 on December 11, 2009, 08:20:12 pm: Quote from: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:14:44 pm
its really quiet tbh more so than oem at low revs or on the motorway , but sounds nice with a bit of pedal !! hoping the downpipe and cat in the new year lift the volume slightly :happy2:

It does, more so when pressing on :smiley:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:21:32 pm: looks better too ......
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Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Greeners on December 11, 2009, 08:23:16 pm: Is that Tornado Pink in the second pic I see? :grin:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 11, 2009, 08:27:11 pm: Quote from: Greenouse on December 11, 2009, 08:23:16 pm
Is that Tornado Pink in the second pic I see? :grin:

Red + sunlight + camera = poor image

Good angle though and :drool:

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Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:30:47 pm: Quote from: Greenouse on December 11, 2009, 08:23:16 pm
Is that Tornado Pink in the second pic I see? :grin:
at audi its called brilliant pink ...errr red ! that pic is terrible !!!!!!
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:32:38 pm: this ones better ...
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Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Greeners on December 11, 2009, 09:47:51 pm: Quote from: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:30:47 pm
Quote from: Greenouse on December 11, 2009, 08:23:16 pm
Is that Tornado Pink in the second pic I see? :grin:
at audi its called brilliant pink ...errr red ! that pic is terrible !!!!!!

I'm only jealous Ian! :wink: :happy2:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 10:09:59 pm: ^^^ you should get one mate , it s like your r and ed 30 in one !! i had regrets when i sold my ed30 but imo now the s3 is better :driver:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Greeners on December 11, 2009, 10:22:01 pm: Quote from: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 10:09:59 pm
^^^ you should get one mate , it s like your r and ed 30 in one !! i had regrets when i sold my ed30 but imo now the s3 is better :driver:

Can't just yet as I want to keep the ED but I will scratch the itch soon! :happy2:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: tony_danza on December 12, 2009, 05:00:47 pm: Quote from: Aparoon on December 11, 2009, 01:50:47 pm
Quote from: tony_danza on December 11, 2009, 01:36:39 pm
Is this to do to Gaz's when his back is turned, or are you thinking of buying a super-sledge like his too?

I drove it back from Wales recently, HUGE fun!

Yeah for gaz's car, had a go of it yesterday it is lovely, i'd read about this mod on r32's so thought it could go well on the r36... You think he'll go for it??

I think i'll give the HUGE fuel and tax bill a miss lol :scared:

Yeah, I'm sure he'll do it. Sounds amazing on song eh!

This one's crap on fuel compared to the last one, as its tight as hell, slower too - it just needs its arse kicking for another 10k.

Jules, we're all working on him to make it F/I :laugh:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: Jules86 on December 12, 2009, 05:07:07 pm: Shotgun if he does :driver:
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: vRStu on December 13, 2009, 09:22:42 pm: Quote from: candy turbo on December 11, 2009, 08:14:44 pm
its really quiet tbh more so than oem at low revs or on the motorway , but sounds nice with a bit of pedal !! hoping the downpipe and cat in the new year lift the volume slightly :happy2:

Save some cash and just get the Milltek DP. The OEM rear section is just fine.
Title: Re: Flapper mod thingymajig on a r36?
Post by: candy turbo on December 13, 2009, 09:50:33 pm: i already have the cat back cause it looks better and sounds better imo , ill be getting the dp and cat soon :driver: