MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: djhorace on December 10, 2009, 06:26:39 pm
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Well I organised myself a spare gearbox today for the Cupra and it is being sent to a man very much recommended to check it over and install a Wavetrac diff.
Just wondered if anyone else has one as I am keen to know their opinion on it. Everyone talks about Peloquins and Quaiffes being so good, and with the Wavetrac appearing to be one step on, I am real keen to make sure I am not making a mistake :smiley:
Ta,
Al
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must admit on Mk5s ive only read about of a couple people with quaife diffs.(RR and JonnyC), one with peloquin(danGB).
never even heard of a wavetrac before. what is it that the wavetrac brings over the theother two??
your having abit of a spendout this month arnt you. :drool: lol
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Info here on the Wavetrac;
http://www.wavetrac.net/technical.htm
Overall it appears to be be a step ahead of the others.
This month does appear to be an expensive one, but hey, you only live once!
My car is three years old in March and rather than replace it with a new Cupra R which is basically the same as the Cupra with the exception of a new inlet camshaft or a way overpriced R20T Golf, and ride the depreciation again on whichever one I choose, I will have a car which will leave either for dead, and because I will be keeping the original box, when I do come to sell it, it will get re-fitted.
At that point I will have a standard car and a pile of parts to sell on which I am sure will go like hot cakes including;
Gearbox with diff installed
ARB's
Exhaust
Coilies
Engine Mounts
Intercooler
Intake,
Fuel Pump
WALK,
Catch Can
Wheels
Brakes
and anything else I cant think of right now off the top of me head :happy2:
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seems very good. how does the price compare to the likes of peloquin etc once you factor in import costs
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seems very good. how does the price compare to the likes of peloquin etc once you factor in import costs
Exactly the same as a Quaiffe or Peloquin - approx £700 plus fitting kit.
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interesting. AMD said they would supply and fit a quaife for 1k. so thhats on my todo list til i find a cheaper option
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I cant say for sure or from experience, but if the diff ends up being as good as the marketing hype, I would say that cheapest isnt always best.
Having said that, as I stay way up in the sticks, its best for me to have the box sent down, upgraded and sent back. At that point I will have the boxes swapped with a quick clutch renewal. Just to fit the diff is going to cost £180 plus maybe a couple of hours labour to change the gearbox so it will come in at less than £1k if you dont include the price of the second gearbox which I will get money back on anyway come selling time where you wont get anything back on your £1k if you sell the car complete with a diff :wink:
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by cheapest i mean of either quaife or peloquin or VXR. neither are crap.
how much is a gear box out of interest.
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by cheapest i mean of either quaife or peloquin or VXR. neither are crap.
how much is a gear box out of interest.
I very nearly went with quaiffe and peloquin - they are far from crap as both have been well proven over the years :smiley:
A gearbox is as cheap as you can find one mate. I got lucky :wink:
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need to know which one is best also, wavetrack or the other two, as my diff will be coming after the new year :pomppomp:
Have you got any giys near you with quaiffe al?
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i bet there is pretty much nothing between them that the average person would be able to notice. you would have to be pretty track orientated to be able to feel anything more in one or the other. VWR must be good if they use them in the race cars.
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need to know which one is best also, wavetrack or the other two, as my diff will be coming after the new year :pomppomp:
Have you got any giys near you with quaiffe al?
Nobody has one up this way.
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Here's some info for you.
http://www.jbsautodesigns.co.uk/listing/12/differentials?show=all
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12 hours labour...seriously didnt think it would have been quite that long :scared: :surprised:
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Do those JBS prices include the fitting kit? If not, that same diff can be had £100 cheaper elsewhere in the UK. I was quoted £400 to have it fitted to my car, drive in, drive out from possibly the most respected person in the business down in Englandshire.
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i bet there is pretty much nothing between them that the average person would be able to notice. you would have to be pretty track orientated to be able to feel anything more in one or the other. VWR must be good if they use them in the race cars.
vwr use quaiffe, and the ones in their race cars are quite different to the roadcar version
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i bet there is pretty much nothing between them that the average person would be able to notice. you would have to be pretty track orientated to be able to feel anything more in one or the other. VWR must be good if they use them in the race cars.
vwr use quaiffe, and the ones in their race cars are quite different to the roadcar version
Who told you this?
AFAIK the ones VWR supply to GTI's are the same as their race ones. RR thought this and found out that they were the same.
Anyone confirm either way please?
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^^^ They use a different plate diff in the race cars vs. the torque biasing diff that is fitted to the road going cars :happy2:
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I do remember reading about two variants too, it may even have been on Quaiffe's website in a press release?
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Road = http://www.volkswagenracing.co.uk/Golf%205%20Pages/Golf%20Drivetrain%20LSD%20Road.html
Race = http://www.volkswagenracing.co.uk/Golf%205%20Pages/Golf%20Drivetrain%20LSD%20Race.html
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That'll be it then!
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AFAIK the ones VWR supply to GTI's are the same as their race ones. RR thought this and found out that they were the same.
Anyone confirm either way please?
....No, SteveP is right [since confirmed in his posted links]. I think that they perhaps used to be the same but not any longer. Sorry if I misinformed you - It was a while ago you and I had that conversation.
Many of these mods are also in constant development too, so things can and do change.
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Go on DJ Horace if I had the cash I would get one myself. Goes of to order the WALK Kit.................
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Excellent mod....do it!
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Excellent mod....do it!
....Yes, but Quaife or Wavetrac?
Personally I'd wait to find out more from independent users of the Wavetrac. Sounds excellent though.
And, if DSG, be very very fussy about who installs your diff and don't buy fitting charges on lowest price.
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Wavetrac only do manual diff's at present.
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Cheers, Steve.
It'll be interesting to see if the Wavetrac technology can be transferred to the DSG or not.
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It's on their development list for next year. :smiley: