MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: AJP on July 06, 2015, 02:58:55 pm
Hi

Recently had a new rev G dv, pcv and cam follower fitted to my k03 GTI and the car now performs nicely. The rev C dv that came off was split, unsurprisingly.

I've just noticed over the last couple of days that when on full/moderate throttle I can hear a high pitched whistle, very briefly, around 2000-2500rpm.

Now it's not a turbo whistle 'sss' sound, or an induction hiss, more like a whistle that you'd make yourself, there's an actual note to it. It sounds similar to that odd resonance you get with some intakes on the k03 engine. Yet I'm completely standard.

I'm wondering if there's a tiny boost leak somewhere. I'd imagine that before the new dv was fitted, the rest of the pipework wouldn't have seen enough boost to cause this, which explains why I'm only hearing it now!

So what are the other weak points with the k03 engine? Intercooler pipework?
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: MrACD on July 06, 2015, 03:20:01 pm
The intercooler pipes are known to leak via the rubber o-rings.

2 on the drivers and 1 on the passenger, well worth swapping.

Through the stealers the o-rings are surprisingly expensive  :fighting:
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: AJP on July 06, 2015, 03:37:01 pm
Cheers for that mate. How expensive are we talking?

And are these on the ends of the actual cooler, or further along the pipework?
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: MrACD on July 06, 2015, 03:49:33 pm
Cheers for that mate. How expensive are we talking?

And are these on the ends of the actual cooler, or further along the pipework?

Got ripped a new one  :confused:, my local hit me for £23 for the 3.  :signLOL:

3c0 145 117h (x1) and 3c0 145 117f (x2)

From the intercooler to the connecting pipe (f) and connector to metal pipe (h) - drivers side.

Passenger - Intercooler to connecting pipe (f).

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: Beej on July 06, 2015, 05:47:41 pm
I too have the same sound (I think) going from your description, although, I replaced my dv with a rev g, but I have an airtec cooler and pipes fitted and running 2 / 2+ tune. I had the noise before fitting the cooler though, so I am presuming it's normal
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: AJP on July 06, 2015, 06:10:18 pm
You can actually hear the noise in this BCS Powervalve video, at 1:47, and in the in-car footage straight after.

I always attributed it to being a quirk of aftermarket inlets on k03 cars, but it'd be interesting to know if this car was on a standard intake. @nige bcs

Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: Beej on July 06, 2015, 08:51:23 pm
Yeah, that's it!
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: AJP on July 06, 2015, 08:56:06 pm
Yeah, that's it!
You say you're a 2 / 2+, so presumably with an aftermarket intake - did you notice the noise with the standard intake?
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: Beej on July 06, 2015, 08:57:47 pm
Well no, but I changed from rev c dv to g at the same time installing the revo intake
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: Beej on July 06, 2015, 09:00:14 pm
It doesn't do it on full throttle, just half to 3/4, but more so in normal D mode (I'm dsg)
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: AJP on July 06, 2015, 09:01:54 pm
I'd love to know what's causing it. I can see it becoming irritating!!
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: Beej on July 06, 2015, 09:13:55 pm
It does irritate me a little, especially if I am trying to 'make progress' rather than booting it without people at the side of the road, or the car next to me noticing too much!
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: GTIEagles on July 06, 2015, 09:30:49 pm
It's definitely worth checking your intercooler hoses. My drivers side hose was weeping oil slightly on both ends. Managed to source genuine o rings on eBay for a tenner. Easy to fit. I couldn't really notice any difference after but it must have been slightly loosing boost as it was weeping.
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: Beej on July 06, 2015, 09:37:53 pm
Mine are good, as I thought it too may have been a leak
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: AJP on July 06, 2015, 10:11:05 pm
Yeah got to say my car pulls well and the power delivery is nice and smooth.

It had a good checkup as well as the new dv, pcv and cam follower when it was in at Statller last week, so I'd have thought they'd have picked up on any issues with the hoses/connectors.

Not saying it's impossible that I've got a boost leak, just seems odd that a few people are hearing this same noise.
Title: Re: Strange resonance coming on boost...?
Post by: AJP on July 07, 2015, 08:32:51 pm
Quick update... haven't heard it once today. Strange!