MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Vwgtiking on July 06, 2015, 11:11:33 pm

Title: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 06, 2015, 11:11:33 pm
Who has this kit? How loud is it? Also with the k04 kit fit onto the k03? The k04 looks better than the k03 kit??
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Simo on July 07, 2015, 07:58:47 am
I've got this kit. There's 2 of them - the 70mm pipe work and the 90mm pipe work. I have the 90mm.
It's the same kit for the k03 and k04. It's comes with a blanking plug if you have a k03 engine.
Noise wise it's pretty loud with whooshes, dumps and chatter. My car dyno'd 216bhp with the kit alone.
Only issue was the instructions... Awful with steps missing where you have to use your head a bit.

Chris
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 07, 2015, 01:00:39 pm
Can you run the 90mm pipe work on a k03 without issues
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Paradox1 on July 07, 2015, 02:31:15 pm
Yeah you can
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: usmangti on July 07, 2015, 03:05:08 pm
looks a nice bit of kit, on the ebay page its for £189.99, 90mm version. but if you buy 2 the second one is half price. effectively £142.50 each. very good price that.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 07, 2015, 04:32:56 pm
Anyone fancy going halves?
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 07, 2015, 07:20:31 pm
I'm interested in going halves mate, need to look at my cash situation first though.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 07, 2015, 07:43:45 pm
Cool. I have just asked if they fancy allowing me to do a group by?
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: AJP on July 07, 2015, 08:29:20 pm
Either of you two willing to do before and after dyno's?

Would love to see how it affects the torque curve as quite a few people say you lose out on torque at low revs!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 07, 2015, 08:41:06 pm
Cool. I have just asked if they fancy allowing me to do a group by?

Will be interesting to see what offer they come back with. The deal on eBay to get the 2nd one at half price is a very good deal!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Dave(tm) on July 07, 2015, 09:44:44 pm
Been considering one myself. Let us know how you get on with the group buy...

Dave
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: th3_f15t on July 07, 2015, 09:56:03 pm
Either of you two willing to do before and after dyno's?

Would love to see how it affects the torque curve as quite a few people say you lose out on torque at low revs!

I fitted a RamAir kit onto my GTI, and I lost a bit of low end torque but gained quite a bit at the upper end of the rev range. I got mine for £155 (think I got a 70mm version mind) but for the cost it's brilliant. When you think the more expensive ones are over double the cost but don't net twice the gains this kit does it's crazy to spend more!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 07, 2015, 10:22:50 pm
To be honest, I'm more interested in the sound.
Power gain or loss will be negligible anyway and won't really make any difference in the real world.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: AJP on July 07, 2015, 10:42:33 pm
To be honest, I'm more interested in the sound.
Power gain or loss will be negligible anyway and won't really make any difference in the real world.
Interesting that most tuners recommend an intake as part of stage 2 hardware though.

There's a thread somewhere covering the real need for an aftermarket intake on stage 2, or whether the standard intake does the job. Opinion was divided. I'd bet the real gains come from the downpipe and cat.

But yeah, without sending this thread off on a tangent, I'm kind of with you - in that while I wouldn't call the peak gains of an aftermarket intake negligable, I'd question just how essential they are for stage 2 maps.

If you're buying for the noise then there's nothing wrong with that. I think a lot of us have grown up hearing Cossies, Evos and the like, hissing and chattering up the road, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't think 'wow!!!!' at the time!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 07, 2015, 10:50:45 pm
See, that's my point. I'm staying on a standard map, at a push I may go stage 1 further down the line.  Not massively bothered about big power as it's not as if you can really use it on our roads anyway. Plus don't want the associated costs of uprated clutch etc.

Always found that the quest for big bhp figures are more willy waving than anything else!
Just my opinion though and no doubt many people will disagree with me.

Anyway, didn't mean to derail the thread!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: white91 on July 08, 2015, 11:10:55 pm
I'm also interested in a group buy
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 09, 2015, 06:41:55 am
Not had reply from ram air yet?
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ricky123 on July 09, 2015, 06:58:32 am
I'll possibly be interested in a group buy too
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: wezoo2010 on July 09, 2015, 04:44:16 pm
i fitted mine at the weekend, i new it was going to change the sound of the car but the 1st time i put my foot down to say i was shocked is a understatement
i wasn't to sure about it at 1st but now i have got used to it i love it
the instructions are a complete wast of time, there is no mention of the heat shield you get with the kit so i had to work that out by myself
but for the price i think it is a bargain, here are a few pics of mine

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwezpepper%2FMobile_Uploads%2FIMAG0053_zpsl7pxgr4s.jpg&hash=f3d5ab7600927d70b4ed12e4b78f55a1d3c2460e)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwezpepper%2FMobile_Uploads%2FIMAG0057_zps2b6a7h2u.jpg&hash=08028aaa4102839edce3ddadf70465659df2b244)

and here is a picture of the heat shield in case anyone needs to know how it fits

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwezpepper%2FMobile_Uploads%2FIMAG0056_zpswa97la4v.jpg&hash=cf7c8f107256ceba2fd1f8967a00783f35b346c5)

Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 09, 2015, 07:36:46 pm
Not had reply from ram air yet?

Ok, if you don't end up getting a reply from them, I'm still interested in going halves if they are still doing the offer.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 09, 2015, 08:17:41 pm
Got a reply. Didn't make much sense. But should I start a new thread on idea of numbers??
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 09, 2015, 08:56:16 pm
What's the price they've given?
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 09, 2015, 09:23:52 pm
They didn't. They said they could do a group buy then said something about their website. I have asked them clarify and the discount I could get.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 09, 2015, 10:31:12 pm
Ah, right. Had a quick look on their website and can't see anything about discounts or group buys.
To be honest, I can't see them offering any deal better than their 50% off the 2nd purchase offer that they're running on eBay.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: GavGTI on July 12, 2015, 08:45:18 am
Hi there, I too have bought the 90mm kit for my edition 30 and really pleased with it. Yes the instructions are bobbins, but otherwise good kit for the money. Cannot understand why the other kits are so expensive. I find it's only loud when you want it to be eg. Flooring it.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 12, 2015, 12:50:00 pm
@Vwgtiking (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=12977) heard anything more from Ramair about prices for a group buy?
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 12, 2015, 04:12:16 pm
Yeah. Apparently I need to call them so will do that sometime next week
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 12, 2015, 04:13:21 pm
I have always not been fan of the foam filters whereby they can break and get into the turbo. My plan is to change it for a Jetex one.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 12, 2015, 04:30:35 pm
Nice one, hopefully they'll come back with a good price. If not there's always their eBay offer to fall back on.

I think the foam technology has moved on a fair bit since the stories of the filters degrading and breaking down.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Jamie9004 on July 12, 2015, 05:08:30 pm
I've fitted a ramair induction to my ed30, very good quality I think for the money. Was hoping for more noise tho, taking the precat gave more noise if that what your after. For the money ramair kit is spot on :happy2:
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: th3_f15t on July 12, 2015, 05:42:11 pm
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't choosing RamAir again purely on noise. I am actually, because its also cost, they're great prices.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 12, 2015, 06:40:41 pm
I only want one for price and a little noise. But also it looks better in engine bay in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: patpong_pete on July 12, 2015, 09:33:56 pm
Yeah. Apparently I need to call them so will do that sometime next week

Vwgtiking please could you update and let us all know how the call went this week

thanks in advanve for help and reply
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 12, 2015, 10:05:40 pm
The price and the noise is also the selling point for me. Such a good price compared to other manufactures and I'd put decent money on there been hardly any difference in quality or performance.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: patpong_pete on July 13, 2015, 12:42:19 am
The price and the noise is also the selling point for me. Such a good price compared to other manufactures and I'd put decent money on there been hardly any difference in quality or performance.

Revo v Ram Air which one is winner ?
price ram air ?
BHP little more would you say from Revo ?

if anyone thats had both please feel free to add comments
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: th3_f15t on July 13, 2015, 07:09:01 am
The more expensive kits have been seen to produce slightly better lower end torque compared to the cheaper intakes but it's only a small amount, again not worth the £200 premium over the RamAir kits. Unless you're chasing big numbers, ceramic coatings and carbon fibre to help with heat soak are a bit overkill. Then again, who doesn't like shiny things?

Also:

http://ramair-filters.co.uk/ramair-special-offers

Extra 10% off when you use 10OFF at the checkout... Now it's even better price wise!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 13, 2015, 07:16:33 am
I don't see how the more expensive kits are better. It only a few bits of pipe and a filter?? Where's the restriction??
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Dan_FR on July 13, 2015, 07:26:21 am
Any links to any proof or data to support that claim? The only major difference with the Revo is that it is one continuous pipe whereas the Ramair has several joins, which is not ideal for airflow but any effects will be negligible.

I don't have either kit as i went full DIY, but i am curious.....
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 13, 2015, 08:00:52 am
That's exactly my point.  BHP figures can be affected by air temperature and air pressure on the day, so one day a REVO intake may produce the better figures, the next day the RamAir will be the best and the day after that an ITG intake.

There's an element of Emporers New Clothes with these types of products, also some people like to be seen to buy the most expensive type of equipment and some others equate expense with quality.  There's a myriad of different reasons to be honest.

With the RamAir product it's one of the cheapest intakes out there, it seems of a decent quality and people seem to be using them with no issues.  Where's the downside? Seems like a no brainer to me.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: th3_f15t on July 13, 2015, 10:34:35 am
Sorry, I phrased that wrong, I should of said I've seen a few topics in the past and dyno prints outs of a very slight difference low down, but even tested back-to-back on the same day the effects are not really noticable in real world terms.

Just look at it this way, a K04 RamAir CAI is £190 (actually £171 with the 10% off) where as the VW Racing intake is £420+! The reason I would consider the VWR intake over the others is it has one less bend in it as it's attached in the OE position, thus one less restriction on air flow. But again, only in big BHP chases is this an issue.

Even just a panel filter is £22.50 after the discount! That's insanely cheap for what is going to be a great filter.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: white91 on July 13, 2015, 01:05:01 pm
Ebay offers 50% off a second kit, so if two people get together thats a great price
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: th3_f15t on July 13, 2015, 02:26:34 pm
Exactly. 10% if buying alone (using the code 10OFF on the webstie). 25% (effective) if buying in pairs. Wonder if the 10% offer works with a pair of kits as well when checking out on eBay..?
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 13, 2015, 04:57:26 pm
Called ramair. Person I need to speak to is not available. So will try again. They said the offer on eBay is buy 2 and the 3rd is half price.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: th3_f15t on July 13, 2015, 05:07:11 pm
Hmm, if you by 2 and a third at half price, it works out at a 16% (approx.) discount, where as buying single units through their website is a 10% discount then. Still, if 3 people want the same kit then it's worth working together.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 13, 2015, 05:47:51 pm
Don't forget for that you would need to redeliver as I doubt they would post 3 items separately to different addresses.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 13, 2015, 07:28:09 pm
Hopefully they come back with a good deal for a group buy of 5 or more.  I'm sure there would be at least 5 people on the forum interested in this.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 14, 2015, 04:59:10 pm
Got some prices will start a new thread. Later tonight for names etx.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 14, 2015, 06:17:32 pm
@ruggy new thread created in GB section.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ricky123 on July 14, 2015, 06:48:06 pm
Didn't want to clutter up the group buy thread.
Is the 90mm kit for £165 in the group buy the same as the one on eBay for £189.99??
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 14, 2015, 06:52:51 pm
Yep that's the beastie.  Looks a great bit of kit, especially at that price.  The full eBay price was cheap as chips as it is!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ricky123 on July 14, 2015, 06:58:30 pm
One of the lads at my local TPS that I got chatting to mentioned he'd bought one for his gti and I was telling that I'm looking into buying one. He said that it was buy it now best offer on eBay and I'm sure he said he got his for £160 using the best offer function??

I'll pop in this week and double check but may be worth buying through that if I've heard right.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 14, 2015, 07:06:09 pm
Yeah let us know mate. I gave ramair the forum link so they may be watching the GB.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ruggy on July 14, 2015, 07:24:43 pm
I made an offer of £150 to them a while ago and they came back with a counter offer of £180 and said this is the lowest they would go.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 15, 2015, 07:58:31 pm
Only 2 so far?
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Simo on July 15, 2015, 08:17:24 pm
I made an offer of £150 to them a while ago and they came back with a counter offer of £180 and said this is the lowest they would go.

Same here. Still impressive for the money. Good quality bit of kit
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ricky123 on July 15, 2015, 09:27:04 pm
Nipped past today. He got it for £170 only a couple of weeks ago. Any saving is better than nothing so still cheaper on the group buy.

Shame about the timing. I've just blown most of my spare cash on a clutch and flywheel.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vwgtiking on July 15, 2015, 09:46:21 pm
Not bad. If all falls through I will put offer in.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Ryan_Gti06 on August 24, 2015, 08:24:51 pm
Gutted. Just bought one of these last week as well. The noise off the oversize kit really surprised me sounds awesome on boost, and when you let off throttle the "wastgate chatter" type noise is loud! But I did get annoyed with the heat shield and swore a lot so have to fit that another time haha
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Jarre on August 27, 2015, 10:03:01 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Volkswagen-Golf-TFSI-2-0-GTI-RAMAIR-Intake-Induction-Air-Filter-Hard-Pipe-Kit-/271623827515?fits=Model%3AGolf&hash=item3f3e0ab03b

Last one at £155 for anyone who's quick!
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: PhilNUK on August 30, 2015, 08:20:47 am
Grrrrr I would go for that if it was a K04.

I made a best offer on smaller one for £150 and it was accepted but then thought I would prefer the 90mm after reading here and have made an offer so will see what they say.
Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Jarre on August 31, 2015, 10:23:46 pm
I realised it was k03 after I posted it haha. I accepted a best offer of 175 for the k04 one on eBay.

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Title: Re: Ramair induction kit
Post by: Vintyd on September 11, 2015, 08:35:34 am
I've just seen this but had already gone ahead and ordered the normal version for my Edition 30 should I try and change it to the oversize or there not be much difference?