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All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: jimmy-s3 on December 13, 2009, 03:05:18 pm

Title: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jimmy-s3 on December 13, 2009, 03:05:18 pm
Can anyone give me an idiot proof guide to adjusting the rear camber on my car please. Ive just fitted a set of new wheels and the nsr is rubbing. Looking at the car from the back, the osr wheel has more angle on it then the other side.
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jonnyc on December 13, 2009, 03:30:49 pm
Can anyone give me an idiot proof guide to adjusting the rear camber on my car please. Ive just fitted a set of new wheels and the nsr is rubbing. Looking at the car from the back, the osr wheel has more angle on it then the other side.

Don't have a guide, but I would say that adjusting camber, or any geometry settings, is not an eye it up type of job.. You need to have it set up and measured to be sure you don't turn your car into an oversteery mess..

The adjustment on the rear camber comes from the cam bolt on the inner side of the rear bottom arms, rotate them and it will move the bottom arm, in or out from the centre line of the car adding or taking away camber..
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: Gene Hunt on December 13, 2009, 03:54:57 pm
Can anyone give me an idiot proof guide to adjusting the rear camber on my car please. Ive just fitted a set of new wheels and the nsr is rubbing. Looking at the car from the back, the osr wheel has more angle on it then the other side.
.........it's recomended after any wheel/suspension change to have a full tracking check done.Get down to you'r local tyre place.  :smiley:  :happy2:.
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jimmy-s3 on December 13, 2009, 05:06:30 pm
Think i'll take it to where i had my bmw done. They charged £30 for it. Do you think they will set the camber up to factory set up or will they do it to how i want it??
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jonnyc on December 13, 2009, 05:25:11 pm
Think i'll take it to where i had my bmw done. They charged £30 for it. Do you think they will set the camber up to factory set up or will they do it to how i want it??

Dont think it makes any difference to them does it? Just request a setting if you know what you want  :smiley:
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 15, 2009, 09:59:24 am
Think i'll take it to where i had my bmw done. They charged £30 for it. Do you think they will set the camber up to factory set up or will they do it to how i want it??

Whats the rim width and offset on the new wheels? Is the car lowered?

There is nothing wrong with the factory setup. Dont forget that when you lower a car you change the whole geometry of the car suspension.

If you've just fitted bad wheels then camber may solve the rubbing problem but will not help cornering.
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jimmy-s3 on December 15, 2009, 04:35:40 pm
The rim size on the new wheels is 8 or 8.5 im not too sure and the offset i think is 40. (BBS CH reps). Just looking at the car from the rear you can tell the camber is not matching up on both sides. I want it set up to factory really but i think they will rub like mad !
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 15, 2009, 06:02:27 pm
Is the car lowered? If so springs or coilovers?

A bit unusual for the camber to just be out on one side if you've not lowered it.
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jimmy-s3 on December 15, 2009, 06:36:35 pm
Yeah its on coilovers!
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: Top Cat on December 15, 2009, 09:56:51 pm
This is going to sound mad but i think the drivers side rear set up sticks out about 2 mil further.  :chicken:
When i was setting mine up, or rather VWR were, i kept getting rubbing on the drivers side only. Even when they measured both sides and matched the coils accordingly.

Also if you have got 8.5j wheels with 40 offset then you will get rubbing on severe compression no matter what you do unless you add lots of camber.  :santa:
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 15, 2009, 10:04:44 pm
I wrote a lengthy post, but it timed me out! Fkin awesome forum!

Cutting the story short, I'd take it along to a wheel alignment specialist and get them to inspect. Did you fit the coilovers yourself?
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: Top Cat on December 15, 2009, 10:05:58 pm

I wrote a lengthy post, but it timed me out! Fkin awesome forum!



 :grin:   all you have to do is press post again, and this solves the time out.  :laugh:
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 15, 2009, 10:09:05 pm

I wrote a lengthy post, but it timed me out! Fkin awesome forum!



 :grin:   all you have to do is press post again, and this solves the time out.  :laugh:

It asked me to log back in, so I did. And then it just displayed a blank reply box stating that I'd left it blank???
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: Top Cat on December 15, 2009, 10:12:39 pm

I wrote a lengthy post, but it timed me out! Fkin awesome forum!



 :grin:   all you have to do is press post again, and this solves the time out.  :laugh:

It asked me to log back in, so I did. And then it just displayed a blank reply box stating that I'd left it blank???

Ah i see, i thought you meant the post timed out. Being timed out on the forum is a strange one, it happens to a few people even when you select stay logged in always.  :rolleye:
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 15, 2009, 10:17:22 pm

I wrote a lengthy post, but it timed me out! Fkin awesome forum!



 :grin:   all you have to do is press post again, and this solves the time out.  :laugh:

It asked me to log back in, so I did. And then it just displayed a blank reply box stating that I'd left it blank???

Ah i see, i thought you meant the post timed out. Being timed out on the forum is a strange one, it happens to a few people even when you select stay logged in always.  :rolleye:

Mine was set to 240 minutes, but it sure as hell didnt take 4 hours to write! I've ticked the box for "always keep me logged in". Thanks the help TC. Apologies for off-topic Jimmy-S3
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jimmy-s3 on December 15, 2009, 10:21:52 pm
I didnt fit the coilovers myself no. So im unsure of how and why the rear alignment is out. Ive fitted 215/40/18's to try and pull the sidewalls in abit, but to be honest its the passenger side of the car where the wheels rub??
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: Top Cat on December 15, 2009, 10:34:28 pm
I didnt fit the coilovers myself no. So im unsure of how and why the rear alignment is out. Ive fitted 215/40/18's to try and pull the sidewalls in abit, but to be honest its the passenger side of the car where the wheels rub??

I would follow Pazz advice and go and get a full alignment check sounds strange.  :happy2:
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: jabbalad on December 17, 2009, 10:15:18 am
as others have said, take it to somewhere that has wheel alignment tools,
The cam bolts don't take much to move the wheel quite lot (they adjust in the range of +.07 to -4 iirc)
the bolt Jonny mentioned adjusts the tow of the wheel, there is another cam bolt on the inner mounting of the top arm, but its a right barstuard to get to!
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 17, 2009, 11:29:35 pm
+.07 to -4 iirc

Are you sure?!  :surprised:  :rolleye:

That is insane for a stock part to allow that much adjustment. -4 degree's is crazy negative camber.

EDIT:

For reference Jimmy you are looking for somewhere that does this or has a system with the same level of detail.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.3.je%2Fbeforesmall.jpg&hash=e83b8531d45af1d4549db99a9267a2a65b332071)
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 17, 2009, 11:37:23 pm
I've stolen the pic from google images.

Funny to see that it says he has "abnormal front tyre wear".

Which will probably be down to the -1 degree 08' camber running on the left front.

The rear end looks a bit of a mess camber wise too.
Title: Re: rear camber adjustment
Post by: pazz on December 17, 2009, 11:40:30 pm
Some garages use the old fashioned light beam setups, but I'm not personally a fan as you cant get all the measurements up on one screen.

I'd trust a garage with a Hunter system aslong as the guy doing the job knows how to use it.