Post by: hashbrown on July 18, 2015, 07:32:07 am
Im only 19 and I have my test soon, Ive always wanted a MK5 golf for my first car. I mean come on, everyone on this forum knows how amazing they are!!!
Now, with me being only 19 Its hard for me to afford a GTI or even GT and dont even get me started on insurance.
So my question is, Correct me if im wrong but GTI's are lowered more than normal MK5 Golfs? As I was thinking to just get a normal golf and add BBS deep dish alloys. (I love golfs with BBS's on them!)
Similar to this. http://gyazo.com/03d4b5c044d40ddb92ea72933d01a69a
However someone told me because of the golf being higher up than a GTI it wont look good? As anyone got any standard golfs with BBS's on them so I could see?
Thank you :smiley:
Post by: white91 on July 19, 2015, 12:41:18 pm
Post by: Andy on July 19, 2015, 01:10:23 pm
Post by: RedGolfDom on July 19, 2015, 01:51:26 pm
Post by: samiul11 on July 19, 2015, 02:20:15 pm
Post by: dansmith180 on July 19, 2015, 02:29:58 pm
Im 19 with a GTI and trust me insurance is possible :signLOL:
I was also 19 when I got my GTI however I already had 2 years NCB so it was affordable. I'm assuming this isn't your first car? Those first couple of years is where they really f*ck you.
Also to be honest I wouldn't recommend a GTI as a first car because you'll probably crash it. Buy a cheap car for at least the first year save your money and get the GTI next year. I made many stupid mistakes in my first car, the only reason I didn't crash it was because I already had 2 years road craft on motorbikes and probably blind luck as well :laugh:.
Maybe just get a MK5 1,4 for now and wait for the GTI, it sucks but will be worth it :happy2:
Post by: th3_f15t on July 19, 2015, 02:42:17 pm
Also, for insurance, don't bother with the usual comparison sites, get onto the phone and give either HIC, Greenlight, Sky Insurance or Adrian Flux a call, they're proper brokers who'll get you a much better policy and price.
Post by: Wash on July 19, 2015, 02:57:40 pm
You also realise them wheels will set you back around 2k as wellThe wheels in the pictures are reps mate, probably only £300-400. A set of genuine 18" BBS splits will be about 2k though.
Post by: Ricky123 on July 19, 2015, 03:17:07 pm
I'd recommend a 1.9tdi 105bhp mk5 golf, the last one of them I had ended up being cheaper to insure than the 1.4 or 1.6 fsi models.
Depending on your budget then I'd try and get the later Match spec model as they come with pretty much all the toys and colour coded door strips, If you can't get one of those then I think the SE is next level down which is the one I had. Mine was a 56plate and had some decent extras.
With a remap mine felt like it would pull a house down and gave a lot of cars a run for there money (no joke)
At 19 years old you've got plenty of time for GTi's, get on the road and get your no claims built up, There worth so much in the long run.
Post by: samiul11 on July 19, 2015, 03:18:16 pm
Im 19 with a GTI and trust me insurance is possible :signLOL:
I was also 19 when I got my GTI however I already had 2 years NCB so it was affordable. I'm assuming this isn't your first car? Those first couple of years is where they really f*ck you.
Also to be honest I wouldn't recommend a GTI as a first car because you'll probably crash it. Buy a cheap car for at least the first year save your money and get the GTI next year. I made many stupid mistakes in my first car, the only reason I didn't crash it was because I already had 2 years road craft on motorbikes and probably blind luck as well :laugh:.
Maybe just get a MK5 1,4 for now and wait for the GTI, it sucks but will be worth it :happy2:
Yeh i was driving a 1.6 Astra for two years and must admit did some pretty stupid things with that car :signLOL:
Post by: Ricky123 on July 19, 2015, 03:26:47 pm
That was my first car at 18... It taught me to drive lol
I think I'm lucky to still be here looking back :innocent:
Post by: Matthewsimone on July 19, 2015, 03:51:28 pm
Now been driving for 13 years so insurance isn't an issue anymore
When i was 17/18 I had a Nova SR on my dads insurance, desperately wanted the GTE or GSI but as said thinking back im glad I never got my hands on a Gte as I was a idiot at times and also wonder how im still alive today too :laugh:
If id been handed my Gti back then with that mentality id almost certainly have killed myself or someone else :sick:
Not all younger drivers are like this but many are unfortunately
17 is too young to drive, cant be trusted with a pint, cigarette or to vote in an election but your ok to drive a potential killing machine :stupid:
Post by: AJP on July 19, 2015, 05:04:14 pm
Plenty of torque, and I'd imagine much more drivable than a pointless 1.4.
If you can get some affordable quotes on one of those with coilovers and aftermarket alloys you'll be laughing.
Only problem is there are much less of the 1.9 cars to choose from.
Oh and those Novas.. Didn't we all want a GSI???!!!! Haha! Brings back memories! There's a line in an early Streets tune...
"Tony's got a new motor, SR Nova, driving like a joyrider"
Sums up those years
(Apologies for topic drift!)
Post by: Ricky123 on July 19, 2015, 05:32:26 pm
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=151745688184&globalID=EBAY-GB
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221826877681&globalID=EBAY-GB
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221819668353&globalID=EBAY-GB
There's a couple to look at. I wouldn't be majorly concerned about mileage as long as there not stupidly high. I covered over 60k in mine and they were hard miles, my car religiously got driven within an inch of its life a couple of times a week atleast lol and it was mapped.
Mine also had a a noisy turbo (owl noise) throughout the whole time I owned it, never got any worse and I didn't feel any difference in power, oil consumption or mpg etc
Also driven sensibly I could get close to 700 miles per tank with the 5 speed gearbox. I never saw any less than 500-550 miles per tank no matter how it was driven.
Post by: hashbrown on July 20, 2015, 02:53:25 am
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=261940648468&globalID=EBAY-GB
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=151745688184&globalID=EBAY-GB
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221826877681&globalID=EBAY-GB
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221819668353&globalID=EBAY-GB
There's a couple to look at. I wouldn't be majorly concerned about mileage as long as there not stupidly high. I covered over 60k in mine and they were hard miles, my car religiously got driven within an inch of its life a couple of times a week atleast lol and it was mapped.
Mine also had a a noisy turbo (owl noise) throughout the whole time I owned it, never got any worse and I didn't feel any difference in power, oil consumption or mpg etc
Also driven sensibly I could get close to 700 miles per tank with the 5 speed gearbox. I never saw any less than 500-550 miles per tank no matter how it was driven.
Yeh man, thanks for the reply.
I just wanted to ask what you meant by high mileage? Like Ive always assumed over 100k is bad. Are VW Golfs relible past 100k?
Because theres this: http://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/mk5-vw-golf-gt-tdi-gti-replica-200bhp/1125734102
Its a 2.0 diesel but just a GTI replica but the issue is it has 140k miles, is it really gonna last me a few years?
Post by: hashbrown on July 20, 2015, 02:54:31 am
From what you guys are saying is: Invest in a 1.9 diesel which makes more sense!
Post by: hashbrown on July 20, 2015, 02:57:06 am
Another thing to consider is a normal Golf can't have just GTI suspension fitted as the shocks are a different width so you'll need to fit new hubs too which is a big job. Get something small engined and reliable for a year or so while you save up, I know you'll hear that all the time but it comes from people who were once where you were.
Also, for insurance, don't bother with the usual comparison sites, get onto the phone and give either HIC, Greenlight, Sky Insurance or Adrian Flux a call, they're proper brokers who'll get you a much better policy and price.
Thanks for this, I will check these insurance companies out! c:
Post by: hashbrown on July 20, 2015, 02:59:27 am
Got to agree with the comments above on this one
Now been driving for 13 years so insurance isn't an issue anymore
When i was 17/18 I had a Nova SR on my dads insurance, desperately wanted the GTE or GSI but as said thinking back im glad I never got my hands on a Gte as I was a idiot at times and also wonder how im still alive today too :laugh:
If id been handed my Gti back then with that mentality id almost certainly have killed myself or someone else :sick:
Not all younger drivers are like this but many are unfortunately
17 is too young to drive, cant be trusted with a pint, cigarette or to vote in an election but your ok to drive a potential killing machine :stupid:
Yeh I agree.
Im 19 though aha, Im not like that either xD
But yeh you're right. I dont want a GTI, I just wanted to see if BBS alloys would look good on normal standard golfs.
I wouldnt even trust myself with a GTI :signLOL:
Post by: Ricky123 on July 20, 2015, 12:33:49 pm
When you go to view one that slightly up on the miles just make sure there's service history there and it's been regularly done then just check things like steering wheel wear, seatbelt wear, gearknob, pedals, seats etc
I'd say average mileage per year in a diesel car should be atleast 15k so 150k on a 10 year old model is bang on average so that's an easy way to work out if it's high mileage or not
Post by: Nino on July 20, 2015, 04:49:48 pm
Post by: sub39h on July 20, 2015, 05:36:19 pm
Another thing to consider is a normal Golf can't have just GTI suspension fitted as the shocks are a different width so you'll need to fit new hubs too which is a big job.
Not 100% sure but on A3s the 2.0 FSI (non turbo) and the 2.0TDI both have the same strut diameter as the GTI. I doubt the Golf is any different.
Post by: Shoduchi on July 20, 2015, 06:36:45 pm
Post by: ephemeross on July 21, 2015, 01:53:24 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on July 21, 2015, 02:01:09 pm
I believe it's a 15mm drop from the standard models on the GTI/GT/GTD's.GTI have 20 mm drop. GT and GTD are 15 mm.
Post by: ephemeross on July 21, 2015, 02:06:28 pm
I believe it's a 15mm drop from the standard models on the GTI/GT/GTD's.GTI have 20 mm drop. GT and GTD are 15 mm.
Ah, thanks :D
Post by: Jwebb on July 23, 2015, 07:50:02 pm
It's cheaper to insure/run than the GTI but still has 150bhp so is a nice compromise.
I'm 23 with 4 years NCB so it is only an extra £15 per year for a GTI now which is why I'm selling.
Jack.