MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Ma22789 on August 04, 2015, 01:30:02 pm

Title: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Ma22789 on August 04, 2015, 01:30:02 pm: (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Flondonpest360%2FMobile_Uploads%2F0C6FCC69-21FA-4AA5-A6AD-A15242064BA5_zpsjmwswxua.jpg&hash=6d950ba18e11efc04f6d79f4c02032871934691e)

So I have fitted this mk6 heater control to my mk5 and all seems to be working fine until I press the AC button and it shuts of all the vents and also every time I start the car up it seems to rest the controls and there turned all the way up to the hottest temperature.. If anyone could help it would be much appreciated thanks
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: v4rley on August 04, 2015, 02:19:19 pm: You do realise they are MK7 controls?? :scared:
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Ma22789 on August 04, 2015, 02:50:34 pm: Quote from: v4rley on August 04, 2015, 02:19:19 pm
You do realise they are MK7 controls?? :scared:

Came out of a mk6 convertible
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Matto on August 04, 2015, 04:07:52 pm: Definitely looks like the MK7 panel. This is the MK6:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fl483%2FEddie-GT%2FED8.jpg&hash=b601e70a72b8edaada9f196eb04fbf1a4a305f53)
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Shoduchi on August 04, 2015, 07:21:40 pm: It's the MY2013 climatronic, not compatible with our mk5. I asked my friend who knows these stuff well about it. Sorry @Ma22789 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10630), no luck there...
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Ma22789 on August 05, 2015, 08:34:05 am: Quote from: Shoduchi on August 04, 2015, 07:21:40 pm
It's the MY2013 climatronic, not compatible with our mk5. I asked my friend who knows these stuff well about it. Sorry @Ma22789 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10630), no luck there...

Well it works so there must be a fix or a few wires needing to be switched maybe..
There must be somebody who knows I really don't want to take it out :sad1:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Flondonpest360%2FMobile_Uploads%2F579483BE-CEFC-4C97-834B-8608AE44B2C3_zps0kcaiilu.jpg&hash=719582974f0a2caa11b1da9c43f8ec9d5c061b44)
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: doylebros on August 05, 2015, 06:17:16 pm: This member fitted that panel into MKVI - he done plenty research so he may know why it's not suitable for a MKV - for me it's as previously stated I've not noticed it in a MKV :wink:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,79815.0.html
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Shoduchi on August 05, 2015, 06:42:17 pm: AFAIK all mk6 are compatible with the new AC panel, just the mk5s aren't.
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: mo on August 07, 2015, 04:23:37 pm: I have heard in that the late MK6 Convertible panels are supposed to work
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,79815.15.html

The Passat B6 panels also work and have the same wiring as the MK6 panels a lot of the guys have fitted to their mk5's.
The MK7 panel looks the same as the late MK6 convertible but will not work.
@Ma22789 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10630) Whats your part number ? According to the following thread the pn you need is 3AD 907 044 G (Passat B6)

http://vw-golfclub.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=42611 (russian site so run through Bing Translator)

According to this Vortex thread some extra pins may need connecting
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4938269-OEM-MKVI-Climatronic-on-a-MKV-on-a-RNS-510-Screen-installed

Pay attention to where it quotes the following:
Climatronic Wiring
On A Connector (black) extract both; Pin 16 and Pin 20 and put Pin 16 on the place were Pin 20 was, leave the wire on Pin 20 loose (not connected to the harrnes) for later connect the Air Quality Sensor if needed.

If you have an older VW Model you will MIGHT need this wiring change ATTENTION: Please don´t quote me on this, I just really followed some threads on VWNAVI that mention this change. It did not applied in my case)
Motors in parallel:
On C Connector (brown): Pin 7 connected to Pin 10 and Pin 8 connected to Pin 9
On B Connector (black): Pin 6 to Pin 7
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Shoduchi on August 07, 2015, 07:36:09 pm: Not having a direct fit frame puts me off this retrofit as well. I like things to look tidy. With some customization it's possible to fit it and later paint the frame and centre vents to look good, I know. Too much work in my opinion, so I forgot about it. :indifferent:
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: mo on August 07, 2015, 09:10:27 pm: Quote from: Shoduchi on August 07, 2015, 07:36:09 pm
Not having a direct fit frame puts me off this retrofit as well. I like things to look tidy. With some customization it's possible to fit it and later paint the frame and centre vents to look good, I know. Too much work in my opinion, so I forgot about it. :indifferent:
Same here. Though i will probably attempt it should some cheap parts appear on ebay or a ready made frame becomes availible which im sure will do eventually.
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: waj27 on August 20, 2015, 12:50:29 pm: Great help
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Ma22789 on August 20, 2015, 05:47:49 pm: Quote from: mo on August 07, 2015, 04:23:37 pm
I have heard in that the late MK6 Convertible panels are supposed to work
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,79815.15.html

The Passat B6 panels also work and have the same wiring as the MK6 panels a lot of the guys have fitted to their mk5's.
The MK7 panel looks the same as the late MK6 convertible but will not work.
@Ma22789 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10630) Whats your part number ? According to the following thread the pn you need is 3AD 907 044 G (Passat B6)

http://vw-golfclub.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=42611 (russian site so run through Bing Translator)

According to this Vortex thread some extra pins may need connecting
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4938269-OEM-MKVI-Climatronic-on-a-MKV-on-a-RNS-510-Screen-installed

Pay attention to where it quotes the following:
Climatronic Wiring
On A Connector (black) extract both; Pin 16 and Pin 20 and put Pin 16 on the place were Pin 20 was, leave the wire on Pin 20 loose (not connected to the harrnes) for later connect the Air Quality Sensor if needed.

If you have an older VW Model you will MIGHT need this wiring change ATTENTION: Please don´t quote me on this, I just really followed some threads on VWNAVI that mention this change. It did not applied in my case)
Motors in parallel:
On C Connector (brown): Pin 7 connected to Pin 10 and Pin 8 connected to Pin 9
On B Connector (black): Pin 6 to Pin 7
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Flondonpest360%2FMobile_Uploads%2F79D8FBC2-8E28-4C46-9E3F-5F724FF9D1F0_zpsa8bchztv.jpg&hash=0b68263c3a500b1e72d40c740ebb4a0b36303042)

That's my part number it came from a 2013 maybe 14 convertible golf r I tried the pin swap from connector A but still no good and sorry for the late reply I have been away
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: Pashka on August 20, 2015, 05:54:14 pm: I have seen mk7 climatronic in b6 07-08 passat so it should be possible
To do that.
Title: Re: Mk6 heater control issue help
Post by: mvb12 on August 26, 2015, 09:14:24 am: @Eddie-NL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2345) can you shed some light on this at all? :popcornsoda: