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Title: T-belt change time
Post by: Lucky ducky on February 11, 2020, 10:25:28 PM
Getting the timing belt & water pump changed next week is there anything else would need doing while there at it? ... Was thinking thermostat mines 2005 AXX Manual
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: fakie1977 on February 12, 2020, 10:58:08 AM
Would be interested to know this also. I know my thermostat needs changed and was wondering whether to lump this work with the belt and water pump change since that is due for me later this year.


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Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: bobby_fodge on February 12, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
Could do the thermostat and the coolant temp sensors whilst the coolant has been drained.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Octoparrot on February 12, 2020, 12:32:05 PM
I agree, saves draining the coolant twice.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: maxamplitude10 on February 12, 2020, 01:27:18 PM
Plus with the engine lifted and alternator out you will have half a chance of getting to the thermostat I did my belt, water pump and thermostat a few weeks ago and it took 2 of us 12 hours on a four poster ramp in a fully equipped workshop!!!
Change both temp sensors/ switches too whilst coolant is out:-)

Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Lucky ducky on February 12, 2020, 10:28:20 PM
Plus with the engine lifted and alternator out you will have half a chance of getting to the thermostat I did my belt, water pump and thermostat a few weeks ago and it took 2 of us 12 hours on a four poster ramp in a fully equipped workshop!!!
Change both temp sensors/ switches too whilst coolant is out:-)


12 hours jeez!!!! I have it booked into my local indi
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: GVK on February 13, 2020, 01:54:50 AM
What interval should the timing belt/pump be done?

Is it 4 years or 5 years?

Mileage?
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: colesey on February 13, 2020, 06:47:29 AM
VW say 4 years whereas Audi used to say 5 years for the same engine. I cover low mileage and follow the latter. You will better know what use your car gets wrt mileage / typical revs / temperature extremes where you live.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: corradovr6 on February 13, 2020, 08:34:41 AM
seems to vary on which dealer you speak to- think they changed the criteria a few years ago
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Lucky ducky on February 13, 2020, 11:08:29 AM
Last owner did the belt at 68000 miles in 2016 there's 83400 miles 4 years I'm gonna hold onto it for a couple of years so it's going to need doing anyhow
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Juliand on February 14, 2020, 11:56:53 AM
Mine needs doing this year too, so I called VW Breeze in Poole today to ask their price..... After going to check if it was still covered by the VW Fixed Pricing Schedule (older car 2005), she confirmed it was, and cost would be £549 all in, to include water pump. How does this compare? I wonder how much longer VW fixed pricing will apply for? Anyone know (I ought to have asked)?

(Just heard Mark King of Level 42 doing his fav tracks, on R2  and they just played Radar Love by Golden Earring, ha ha, great, took me back, time-warp fashion to my youth...Happy days....)
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Pudding on February 15, 2020, 04:27:10 AM
£549 is crazy.  The genuine parts are less than half that.  Did mine in 4 hours on axle stands.  No special tools required.  It's an easy job.  Half a grand for that job is scandalous if you ask me, especially when you consider VW were doing the same job for £349 on special a few years back.  Not many Indies could compete with that, using genuine parts.

As for the interval, it's 4 years or 60K on VWs. 

Going by Audi's/T'internet's 5 years/80K is a gamble I'm not willing to take personally.  Metal parts, maybe.  Perishable rubber, no chance.  I got burned by that with my old Alfa 147 with their stupidly optimistic belt change interval!










Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: GVK on February 15, 2020, 08:01:59 PM

As for the interval, it's 4 years or 60K on VWs. 



Ta Kev.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: maxamplitude10 on February 18, 2020, 11:52:48 AM
TPS have a sale on genuine cam-belt kits at the mo, I got the belt kit, water pump and thermostat all genuine VW parts for £170 all in:-)

Worth a look if you can do it yourself!!

MaxAmp
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Lucky ducky on February 18, 2020, 04:11:46 PM
Car's being done in the local indi at the moment so will let you know how i get on
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Kee1994 on February 18, 2020, 04:15:25 PM
Car's being done in the local indi at the moment so will let you know how i get on
How much they charging for labour?

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Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Lucky ducky on February 18, 2020, 06:42:10 PM
I'll let you know front brakes are binding so they're sorting them out as well
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Lucky ducky on February 22, 2020, 02:56:57 PM
Job done €450 which is about £400 brakes still slightly sticking that's for another day...
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: andyiseddy02 on February 22, 2020, 03:11:47 PM
Had mine done this week, 50k and 5.5 years since it was done.

The old belt looked fine, no cracking, didn't look bad at all. Car is not used much for short journeys as I endure* using public transport during the week. Cost was £350.

*Loud mouth girl the other day on her hands free, talking as loud as you like, 'They effing told me £10 on the electric would effing last all week but the effing thing ran out on Wed', I am going to ring them later and ask them what the eff they think they are playing at'.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Gti_jay on February 23, 2020, 08:18:50 PM
As above get thermostat done
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: maxamplitude10 on February 26, 2020, 03:19:58 PM
Job done €450 which is about £400 brakes still slightly sticking that's for another day...
[Was that including thermostat change and genuine VW parts? If it was thats a bargain]
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: coolhandluke on February 26, 2020, 04:15:00 PM
Job done €450 which is about £400 brakes still slightly sticking that's for another day...

Did that include the water pump and stretch bolts.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Lucky ducky on February 26, 2020, 04:42:30 PM
Not genuine parts water pump thermostat & bolts done.. Not to fussed about not been genuine i do about 200 miles a month... Mechanic said stuff that came off was not genuine either looked new.. It bloody well was nearly new ....last done  in 2016
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Cosmos on February 27, 2020, 08:15:36 AM
Just booked my ed30 in for its timing belt kit,water pump and oil service for 30th march.
Car is on 36k miles and does just over 2k miles a year. Is there anything else i should get done while its in ?
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: ROH ECHT on February 27, 2020, 04:42:03 PM
Just booked my ed30 in for its timing belt kit,water pump and oil service for 30th march.
Car is on 36k miles and does just over 2k miles a year. Is there anything else i should get done while its in ?
Idler pulley/wheel and you may want to consider a thermostat. My 2007 GTI just began showing signs of coolant not reaching operating temps as it does and coding P2181.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: colesey on February 27, 2020, 05:19:30 PM
Just booked my ed30 in for its timing belt kit,water pump and oil service for 30th march.
Car is on 36k miles and does just over 2k miles a year. Is there anything else i should get done while its in ?

I would recommend checking the seals inside the HPFP as mine were perished at 25k miles / 11 years.
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Pudding on February 29, 2020, 04:16:24 AM
TPS have a sale on genuine cam-belt kits at the mo, I got the belt kit, water pump and thermostat all genuine VW parts for £170 all in:-)

Worth a look if you can do it yourself!!

MaxAmp

Bargain! Can't argue with a £170 belt/pump change if folk fancy tackling it themselves.  Honestly, it's such an easy job I am bewildered by people paying VW £550 to do it!   You don't need a cam lock tool or anything daft like that.  VW made this engine easy to work on  :happy2:
Title: Re: T-belt change time
Post by: Pudding on February 29, 2020, 04:47:09 AM
Job done €450 which is about £400 brakes still slightly sticking that's for another day...

Did that include the water pump and stretch bolts.

That's the kicker.  Bolts and sundries tot up the final price by a fair chunk, which is often over looked.  Around £30 in stretch bolts + 2 bottles of G13 water additive @ £15 each.....on top of the belt/pump kit.  Still works out a lot cheaper DIY vs garage price though.

A lot of folk *still* re-use stretch bolts though, in spite of the well documented cases of engines dropping onto the floor.  As a result, VW dealers now refuse to sign a car off unless it's proven new bolts were used.  I know some folk don't understand the purpose of stretch bolts, but we can take that operational change from VW as a strong message to......not re-use stretch bolts!!