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All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: jedi-knight83 on November 20, 2011, 01:38:32 PM

Title: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 20, 2011, 01:38:32 PM
Meant to write this up a while ago.

Its not perfect..

The up side: its cheap and quick and my 2006 55plate never had any battery issues after the rcd510 was installed.

The down side: each time you turn the car on it scans the sd card and cd tray again so take 30 seconds or so before you can play music.

Therefore I'm suggesting its not a permanent fix but just a stop gap un till you can source and fit a new can gateway.

Step1
Find the fuse box under the bonnet
(http://daz.co/media/Car_Stuff/Golf_GTI/pic1.jpg)

Step2
It should look a bit like this
(http://daz.co/media/Car_Stuff/Golf_GTI/pic2.jpg)

Step3
Make up 2 jumper wires
(http://daz.co/media/Car_Stuff/Golf_GTI/pic3.jpg)

Step4
Fit the fuse as shown and check the radio works and turns off when you take the key out.
(http://daz.co/media/Car_Stuff/Golf_GTI/pic4.jpg)

Thats it. Like I say it has its downsides but its a nice easy effective fix.

Cheers

Nathan
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: robby on November 20, 2011, 01:51:09 PM
Would it work if you just added a 15amp fuse to the empty slot or is it the 2 have to be connected together?
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 20, 2011, 01:52:17 PM

Tempted to use that as a bargain basement in line fuse holder for my Sat nav hard wire lol.  must resist and get round to making my Maplins order  :signLOL:
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 20, 2011, 02:06:13 PM
Would it work if you just added a 15amp fuse to the empty slot or is it the 2 have to be connected together?
the two have to be connected together as effectively your using a switched live from the other fuse socket to power the radio
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: kevinm on November 20, 2011, 07:06:12 PM
So that slot is ignition switched? Could it be used to power heated washer jets? I've the kit for ages but have been put off fitting it because of the work involved in running the wire to the fuse box inside the cabin.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: saj121 on May 18, 2012, 06:56:37 PM
Sorry to bring this thread back up, but I think i'll be expecting battery drain soon because when I leave the car for about an hour or so, even when i come back it just starts straight away. It's only overnight it switches off and i'm welcomed by the volkswagen start up in the morning! so im pretty sure my battery will be going so I will need a gateway but until its here (and i can save up lol) this will have to do!

But what plugs would I use on my fuse box? (It's totally different to yours for some reason) My F19 is a 30amp green fuse where as yours is a blue 15amp one!

(http://daz.co/media/ii295/saj121/IMG_1975.jpg)
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: mortygttdi on May 18, 2012, 07:08:25 PM
Its a 15 amp fuse so its either one of the 2 :happy2:

Darren
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: saj121 on May 18, 2012, 07:19:23 PM
lol will im just hoping it doesn't spark up a fault on the ecu !

Will it matter what I connect it too? There's a few blank fuses not sure which one to use though!

Thanks
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: saj121 on May 18, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
using the manual i figured its F8 but im not sure which one I should connect to - any ideas?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: jamesmcclory on June 10, 2012, 11:35:40 PM
Might try this for a similar issue in the caddy... Cheers! :happy2:
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: malukas on July 12, 2012, 12:44:11 PM
Hello,

I also have problem with battery drain and i have same fuse box under the hood like saj121 (picture above).

I know where is radio fuse slot but how can i find right EMPTY ECU FUSE SLOT? There are so many empty fuse slots....

Hope someone can help  :smiley:
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: yooni7 on September 04, 2012, 07:40:44 PM
using the manual i figured its F8 but im not sure which one I should connect to - any ideas?

Thanks :)

Saj did you ever work out which one you need to connect it to?  I have the same fuse box.  Iv found the radio fuse but not entirely sure which slot i need to connect it to.  Cab anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: olly330 on July 04, 2013, 11:28:58 AM
Sorry for the ancient thread bump - I have the same problem as a couple of you other guys in that my fuse box looks differant to that in the pictures demonstrated.


I fitted an RCD310 head unit last night to replace the rcd300, fully expecting the battery drain problem on my golf mkv.

Tried to start this morning, and battery weak, had to recharge for around half an hour, disconnect battery, reconnect and then the car started.


I have made the jumper cable and am now ready to install it to hopefully stop the battery dying while I locate a new Canbus.


This is the fuse box in my 2006 UK MKV Golf Tdi, viewed as you are directly in front of the car, facing in the direction of the windscreen.
You can see the stereo fuse which I have removed and one end of the jumper cable is inserted :


(http://i.imgur.com/UttS4OE.jpg)


Can anyone advise, for my fuse box, which slot the other jumper cable should go into ?

You will be doing me a massive favour, cheers.

Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: jedi-knight83 on July 04, 2013, 11:31:35 AM
you just need to find a blank fuse point with ignition live.

I did this on my caddy recently and its been fine and im still just running off the jumper cable after several months. No battery drain.

I'd go take a photo of the caddy fuse box but its down my local garage :(
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: SuhailVinnyBee on July 13, 2013, 09:58:43 AM
Hi there, ive recently installed a rcd510 in my vw golf mk5 2.0 sdi 06 plate, therefore need to fix the battery drain issue. Ive looked through many websites nd forums but cant seem to get me head round it. My fuse box looks very different to the ones uploaded on here plus how would i know which can bus gateway i need for my car?

I am a novice..require help..

Regards,
SuhailVincentBee
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: jedi-knight83 on July 13, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
Hi there, ive recently installed a rcd510 in my vw golf mk5 2.0 sdi 06 plate, therefore need to fix the battery drain issue. Ive looked through many websites nd forums but cant seem to get me head round it. My fuse box looks very different to the ones uploaded on here plus how would i know which can bus gateway i need for my car?

I am a novice..require help..

Regards,
SuhailVincentBee

PM EddieNL about the updated canbus and he will know which one will work.

in the short term just find an empty fuse port with ignition live and jump that into the current radio fuse port.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: SuhailVinnyBee on July 13, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
Il email you a picture of my fuse box. Could you guide me through please..
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: jedi-knight83 on July 13, 2013, 11:19:53 AM
Il email you a picture of my fuse box. Could you guide me through please..

not really as you need to find an ignition live and i cant do that from a photo. Use a circuit tester to check the empty ports to find one that gets power when the ignition is on and that switches off when you turn the car off. Then take that feed.. make up the fuse holder and put that through the fuse and then into the other port where the radio fuse would normally go.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: SuhailVinnyBee on July 14, 2013, 10:52:32 PM
my fuse box is the same as Saj121..coud you tell me which empty slot u used to connect? i dunno which one has an ignition live

thanks
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: fixonson on October 01, 2013, 09:24:44 PM
Hello,

Can someone please help me with RCD 510 problem? How i should connect the cables to the fuse box? My fuse box on golf plus 2005, 1,9tdi is looking the same as jedi-knight83 posted on first picture, but not of all relays are att the same place as on his picture? On the place where jedi knight has an empy fuse slot on EOU i have one 10v fuse on the remaining two on the left is empty slots. Btw, how to insert a picture here?


 Help please?
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: jedi-knight83 on October 01, 2013, 10:17:01 PM
you just need to find an empty slot that has an ignition live feed and jump from there.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: WabsNL on November 25, 2013, 03:36:00 PM
I have the same fuse box as olly330 and I think i found the solution.

1 side of the cable in the left socket of the radio fuse (F8) and the other in the right socket of F14.
Not sure what F14 is used for but it was empty for me and 10 seconds after removing the key the power is gone.  :pomppomp:

/editJust wanted to confirm the above solution. Worked perfect for me this last week  :happy2:

Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: JaseGti on August 17, 2014, 02:34:49 PM
Can anyone help with this?
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: SL4VE on July 16, 2015, 01:02:27 PM
mine asks for the code everytime i turn it on.

is this normal? with this trick
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: aesmidz on August 24, 2015, 12:59:33 PM

Sorry for the ancient thread bump - did anyone find out where to connect the power supply to a f8 radio fuse, as previously posted

i have a 2011 golf gtd, and the RNS510 is slowly draining the battery, so looking to have it supplied with power only when the ignition is live




This is the fuse box in my 2006 UK MKV Golf Tdi, viewed as you are directly in front of the car, facing in the direction of the windscreen.
You can see the stereo fuse which I have removed and one end of the jumper cable is inserted :


(http://i.imgur.com/UttS4OE.jpg)


Can anyone advise, for my fuse box, which slot the other jumper cable should go into ?

You will be doing me a massive favour, cheers.
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Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: aholla on September 24, 2016, 03:47:04 PM
Hi, I know this is old, but did anyone figure out if they could use a spare port? I have the same setup as the photo above and have tested the empty slots but I dont think any of them get any power at idle.

Thanks.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: Pudding on September 26, 2016, 11:27:13 AM
How old is your RNS?  The newer ones can have a software hack to stop the power drain.

I've got a version Q in mine (with the software tweak) on the standard can gateway (2007) and I've left the car at Gatwick for 2 weeks, and it started right up!
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: willni on January 31, 2017, 10:31:44 AM
How old is your RNS?  The newer ones can have a software hack to stop the power drain.

I've got a version Q in mine (with the software tweak) on the standard can gateway (2007) and I've left the car at Gatwick for 2 weeks, and it started right up!

How can you tell what version you have and how do you get the software tweak? very interested and don't really want to go upgrading the canbus
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: Pudding on January 31, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
How old is your RNS?  The newer ones can have a software hack to stop the power drain.

I've got a version Q in mine (with the software tweak) on the standard can gateway (2007) and I've left the car at Gatwick for 2 weeks, and it started right up!

How can you tell what version you have and how do you get the software tweak? very interested and don't really want to go upgrading the canbus

On the sticker on the back of the unit, or with VCDS, or with the stereo in diagnostic mode (I think).

I had an ancient RNS510 version A which the previous owner fitted.  It failed on me so I bought a new one from some east European VAG radio specialist on ebay (can't remember the shop name) and he did some kind of software mod to it.  I wouldn't know how to apply the patch DIY I'm afraid, but it's probably a firmware updated of some sort.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: Pudding on January 31, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
Just looked at my ebay purchase history and I bought it from sat_nav_deals

Might be worth contacting him, or eddieNL on here is a bit of an electrical whizz I believe.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: willni on January 31, 2017, 01:01:47 PM
Just looked at my ebay purchase history and I bought it from sat_nav_deals

Might be worth contacting him, or eddieNL on here is a bit of an electrical whizz I believe.

Thanks! I'm gonna do the canbus upgrade on my edition 30, and probably recommend something like yours for my brother
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: Pudding on January 31, 2017, 01:18:08 PM
Just looked at my ebay purchase history and I bought it from sat_nav_deals

Might be worth contacting him, or eddieNL on here is a bit of an electrical whizz I believe.

Thanks! I'm gonna do the canbus upgrade on my edition 30, and probably recommend something like yours for my brother

Just be careful with 'pre-coded' CAN buses. I got one and it caused more problems than it was worth, so reverted back to the factory one.  A lot of stuff just didn't work, despite being enabled in the long coding.
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: willni on January 31, 2017, 01:29:51 PM

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Just be careful with 'pre-coded' CAN buses. I got one and it caused more problems than it was worth, so reverted back to the factory one.  A lot of stuff just didn't work, despite being enabled in the long coding.
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maybe my vw dealer will do it for a decent price
Title: Re: A tested and proven quick fix for rcd510/rns510 power drain
Post by: Racoonroll on October 18, 2017, 09:58:07 PM
Hey guys, this post helped me to fix battery drain problem for my Golf Plus MK5! Already 3 days and no problems, car starts just fine. I have 2012 RCD 310 audio fitted in my 2006 Golf Plus and it kept discharging battery to the point I couldn't start the car. I searched for compatible canbus without luck, plus couldn't find a guy who would cheaply program it for me so I did this fix. My Fuse Box was a bit different than in the original post but I noticed some guys had the same as mine so here's the pictures what I did, hope it helps.  Everything cost me like 40-50 euro cents :)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxzkZl9W_OpUdm92b2I1b3dCdEk
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxzkZl9W_OpURWh1OUJYOFpiY2c
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxzkZl9W_OpURERxRWI1X1V3QWs

Here's the links for the parts I used in case you want to use exactly the same:
https://www.omedita.lt/lt/puslaidininkiniai-saugikliai/484-saugikliu-lizdailaikikliai-saugikliu-lizdailaikikliai.html
https://www.lemona.lt/?page=item&i_id=24024  (I needed two of these, don't forget to measure the width of 15A fuse contacts, I forgot which width I used)