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Title: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: Baz300 on October 10, 2012, 10:09:47 pm
I'm looking into getting winter wheels with winter tyres and have found some good prices packages on my tyres

They are with 6.5 x 16 steel wheels

Will I run into issues with running steel wheels on a gti?

It's coming in at under £500 for the package deliverd with decent tyres
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/skw.pl?bestellnummer=9915--R-138148&cart_id=11549157.110.16968&dsco=110&sowigan=Wi&csuchen=1&Gmarke=&Gdub=&Ggroesse=&Gfelge=&Gf_last=&achse=A&syt_d=&Hersteller=VW&PKWtyp=GOLF%20V%20GTI&felge=16%20inch|5%20x%20112.00%20x%2057.00|5|50.00&PKWtypgenau=|378731||1984|147|200409|200809|57.00|112.00|5|1K%20||P|E1*2001/116*0242*..&my_1_car=VW__GOLF%20V%20GTI____|378731||1984|147|200409|200809|57.00|112.00|5|1K%20||P|E1*2001/116*0242*..

With avons
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: skard on October 11, 2012, 12:07:57 am
16" wheels will fit over 312mm brakes (standard GTI ones).

I bought a set of OEM steels earlier in the year for this purpose too as my M&S 15s don't fit anymore after putting 312mm carriers on.

If you knew a tyre fitter, pretty sure it'd be a lot cheaper buying four new tyres (~£280) and getting a used set of steels/alloys.
I just sold SEAT 16" rims for £100 to a guy with an A3 to use with winter tyres, plenty more like that.

If you're looking at spending almost £500, I'd get a set of 17s instead then they'd still fit after a brake upgrade.
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: dodds-gttdi on October 11, 2012, 07:48:27 am
Hey, if you have this budget in mind, I am currently selling a set of genuine VW alloys with almost new winter tyres. Have a look at the link below and send me an offer if you are interested. Cheers. :happy2:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=52257.new
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: JoeDarKa on October 11, 2012, 03:59:16 pm
I managed to pick my 15inch steels up for £18 for 4 on ebay  :laugh:

Dodds' wheels seem a good deal though!
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: f1fan on October 11, 2012, 10:04:03 pm
I bought a set of 17" Monzas with Hankook winter tyres for £535 on eBay last week.  I'd definitely go for secondhand alloys and shop around for tyres.
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: Gene Hunt on October 12, 2012, 08:16:11 am
Quick question for those who ran Steel wheels over the winter,what condition were the calipers in after months of not being washed please?.
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: Horatio on October 12, 2012, 03:05:53 pm
Do vw steel wheels off t4/5 or caddys fit the mk5 platform? Does anyone run them for winter?
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: dodds-gttdi on October 12, 2012, 06:39:27 pm
Do vw steel wheels off t4/5 or caddys fit the mk5 platform? Does anyone run them for winter?

Think these are 120mm pcd, same as bmw or 130mm pcd same as Porsche/Audi Q5/Q7. Definitely not 5x112mm.  :stupid:
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: Pudding on November 23, 2016, 03:08:27 pm
Just bumping this as I've put some OEM 16"x6.5J steelies on with winter tyres.

Only thing is they look skinny compared to the standard 18" alloys.  Can you get wider steels? 8Jx16 would be nice!
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: Kai96 on November 24, 2016, 06:51:28 pm
Seen this thread so I thought I'd post here instead of starting a new one. Anyone know how much I should put my 17" monzas up for ? 3 out of the 4 are in good condition but one will need a refurb. 2 of the tyres have good thread and the other 2 will need changing soon. I'd keep them but they are taking up way to much space in the garage
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: stuart-88 on November 25, 2016, 11:33:46 pm
I had 16" Caddy steels for a little while. I liked them a bit too much

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fstuart_gt%2FOV55EZT%2F2BC71762-462C-4E32-A8E6-B023A56E8E43_zpszdxkqdn9.jpg&hash=dd9f7c7f8e426d8cd88a4b2cccc277ce15a28ed8)
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: akbarirfan on January 12, 2021, 03:16:15 pm
Hi All,

Would these fit over standard GTI brakes?

Volkswagen Golf Mk5 AUDI 15" Steel Wheel 1K0601027C 6jx15

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/1630978842

Thanks
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: shail on January 12, 2021, 07:15:40 pm
Don't think they will.
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: akbarirfan on January 15, 2021, 09:52:36 am
Ok it looks like 16s do thanks.

If I was to run winter wheels, which were narrower, say 6J versus the 7.5J of the 17 inch Monzas, would i need short bolts?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: Pudding on January 15, 2021, 09:01:56 pm
Nope.  The standard bolts are fine with steelies.

Just my opinion and based on experience.....it's not worth running winters unless you live in heavy snow/ice prone areas of the country. 

For people who've upgraded to Golf R front brakes, 16" steelies are a no go.  They are the cheapest price for winters.  17 & 18" winter tyres are expensive.....and frankly unnecessary in moderate snow areas because modern summer tyres are now so good, they grip at 0 degrees and lower.   PS4, PS4S and F1 SuperSport are good examples.

Obviously a full snow tyre will annihilate any summer tyre on ice and compacted snow, but as I say, consider your local conditions.  If it's not like that, save your money and just drive a bit more carefully.
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: willni on January 16, 2021, 06:47:22 pm
Nope.  The standard bolts are fine with steelies.

Just my opinion and based on experience.....it's not worth running winters unless you live in heavy snow/ice prone areas of the country. 

For people who've upgraded to Golf R front brakes, 16" steelies are a no go.  They are the cheapest price for winters.  17 & 18" winter tyres are expensive.....and frankly unnecessary in moderate snow areas because modern summer tyres are now so good, they grip at 0 degrees and lower.   PS4, PS4S and F1 SuperSport are good examples.

Obviously a full snow tyre will annihilate any summer tyre on ice and compacted snow, but as I say, consider your local conditions.  If it's not like that, save your money and just drive a bit more carefully.

As someone that has been using winter tyres for 4 or so years now, I can quite honestly say my PS4S (£600) are no where near as good as my Goodyear UltraGrip Performance's (£380 for 4) once the temperature drops below 7 degree. Likewise the Goodyears are no wear near as good as the Michelins above 7 degrees. A good compromise is an all season tyre for the UK, where we get a little snow but also two days later can be mild again.

But something that's not considered is you actually extend the life on your summer tyres when you run winters, as 3-5 months of the year you can run winters instead of summers.

Also a good point is with winter tyres in the snow I can get up hills a XC90 couldn't  :grin:
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: Pudding on January 22, 2021, 07:31:23 pm
Oh I totally agree mate.  Winter tyres are superior, but as I say it depends where you live.  In the East of england, we rarely see snow and the sub zero and hovering between 0 - 5 degree typical damp winters we see, good summers work plenty good enough.

The only thing I didn't like about 16" winters was how terrible the cornering and braking were if you got a 10 degree day during winter.  Mushy as hell  :grin:  That probably isn't so much of an issue with 18" sports winters because of the sidewalls, but they're waaaaay too much money!

But yeah, you raise some good points  :happy2:
Title: Re: Steel wheels for winter?
Post by: akbarirfan on January 26, 2021, 07:58:44 am
Yes all depends where you live, never considered them when I lived in the South. In the North now and high up so definitely see a benefit.

I managed to get a set of these with Winter tyres on them locally - would love some VW Centre caps to go with them!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-A4-B6-16-10-SPOKE-ALLOY-WHEELS-X4-5x112-205-55R16-16x7J-ET45-4A0601025P/273824236131?epid=1522856018&hash=item3fc1324263:g:7uYAAOSw6INeIJXz