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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2016, 06:29:11 PM »




best intercooler bang for buck if your handy all new can be done for under £200
seems like this is the best option to go for then!  I have ka04 with front mount ic and the red forge silicone pipes looks bad ass too ahahahah :evilgrin:
Its pain in the  :booty: when trying to get everything together and cut out bumper supports  :doh:

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2016, 07:00:19 PM »
more hassle?...but the red silicone pipes....  :signLOL:  I heard something about increased lag with fmic because of length of piping ?   if that's the case I would go for s3 if I was on stock ka03 gti turbo ... but like dan says - if you want  to go big with ka04 and go to track days in the summer with more bhp , heat soak etc !... ?   I don't have enough experience to offer further advice as I bought car with fmic already installed - seems the decision is not so straight forward!
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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2016, 07:16:24 PM »
...but the red silicone pipes....  :signLOL:
nice I had blue painted black with alloy hosing :signLOL:

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2016, 07:58:11 PM »
Really  :scared:

When I was discussing my remap on fb niki replied and said I should be going 2+ with the gear I'm fitting on and said it would be enough.

S3 forsale on fb right now 75 + delivery  :signLOL:

You sure that's for sale?  And not just me saying "woo hoo, look what I got for £75 + delivery"...

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2016, 08:08:22 PM »
Really  :scared:

When I was discussing my remap on fb niki replied and said I should be going 2+ with the gear I'm fitting on and said it would be enough.

S3 forsale on fb right now 75 + delivery  :signLOL:

You sure that's for sale?  And not just me saying "woo hoo, look what I got for £75 + delivery"...
your right but it was too late by then lol although another member is selling one who comented in that post  :signLOL:

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2016, 09:11:05 PM »
You've got to read this post off FB  :scared:

Yeah the primary job of the end tank is to distribute the air into the core rails evenly. Cooling is secondary. The tanks aren't even in the air flow. The S3 cooler is a massive improvement over the GTI one. People just don't think it is because it's not a lot bigger. There is such a thing as going over the top with IC sizing. And remember, dyno cells have don't have the same airflow compared to the open road, so of course any cooler will heatsoak after 10 runs back to back in a cell. VAG designed the S3 cooler to work in Dubai. Heatsoaking it on the road in the UK would take some doing!

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2016, 10:26:28 AM »
If your aiming for top figures with k04 or another bigger turbo, go hybrid. I did mine for less that 200quid

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2016, 10:48:45 AM »
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day

I think you are exaggerating.   My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4.  Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.

I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.
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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2016, 10:52:50 AM »
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day

I think you are exaggerating.   My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4.  Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.

I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.

Or just dont drive like a nutjob on public roads

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2016, 11:01:54 AM »
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day

I think you are exaggerating.   My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4.  Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.

I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.

Or just dont drive like a nutjob on public roads

That too.  There are always cool off periods in between full throttle blasts for the cooler to dissipate the heat.  If the turbo was in full boost all the time, even a 5 foot wide intercooler would eventually heatsoak.
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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2016, 11:07:06 AM »
 :grin: :grin: :grin: my favourite place is to drive fast past schools  :laugh:

time and place for everything stop talking stupid i am not 17

when sitting in traffic at pod heat soak on the s3 cooler was insane it got even worse when we turned the engine off the front mount fitted does not hold the heat as much as its further away from the engine

anyway i am never going to agree with your opinion on the s3 cooler but thats life we all have opinions like bumholes  :happy2:
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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2016, 11:37:39 AM »
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day

I think you are exaggerating.   My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4.  Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.

I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.

Or just dont drive like a nutjob on public roads
yeah be careful  :happy2:

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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2016, 12:18:41 PM »
:grin: :grin: :grin: my favourite place is to drive fast past schools  :laugh:

time and place for everything stop talking stupid i am not 17

when sitting in traffic at pod heat soak on the s3 cooler was insane it got even worse when we turned the engine off the front mount fitted does not hold the heat as much as its further away from the engine

anyway i am never going to agree with your opinion on the s3 cooler but thats life we all have opinions like bumholes  :happy2:

Aha, we're not talking about driving then!  Any intercooler will heat soak sat idling for ages as there's no airflow, other than the fans. Agreed that pushing yours out further can help with that, but how does that affect the air guide cowling on the slam panel?  Plastic end tanks are actually better in that scenario as alloy just absorbs all the heat and passes it into the core, but anyway, you're right, let's agree to disagree  :happy2:
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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2016, 12:59:22 PM »
we agree on something  :grin: :happy2:

sitting at a set of traffic lights getting ready to boot it away the s3 cooler will be heat soaking like mad and it would take longer for the air to cool as the air flow is much better on my front mount.

cooler air means faster car like winter and summer driving  :happy2:
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Re: Going Stage 2+
« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2016, 02:22:25 PM »
We got there in the end  :grin:

Yeah I hate that VW sandwiched the intercooler between the radiator and A/C condenser!

I'm not that worried by traffic and idling scenarios, just so long as it does the business when booting it at speed, which it does!
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