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R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« on: May 20, 2016, 10:57:40 pm »
FINALLY a Dyno comparison of both maps at Stage 2+ (K04):



Not a massive difference in PEAK bhp, but with Niki using the VVT to spool the turbo earlier, the mid-range difference is substantial  :laugh:

Torque curves are very different.
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2016, 07:15:19 am »
Do you know What settings were used for revo BFT ?,

There seems to be a number of lines on that graph, the colour hasn't come through on the photo very well. Can you add some labels  :happy2:

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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2016, 08:16:14 am »
As above. Settings used on the Revo and whether they were optimised after logging make all the difference....

What was the difference in boost? I'm guessing the boost trace is the bottom lines but it is really hard to make out
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 08:19:28 am »
Torque looks low on the Revo 2+. Would have expected more than that.

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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2016, 09:25:55 am »
Sorry guys, pinched the graph off the TFSI tuning Facebook page. I do know it was running meth on the Revo map, and switched off for the R-Tech run.

If you can read the figures at the top, the colour of the writing correlates to the line on the graph.
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2016, 09:47:29 am »
Sounds even more odd, switched off the meth for R-Tech map and it made more ?  :laugh:  Dan, you better get to R-Tech, you can ditch your meth and get more torque !  :jumpmove:

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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2016, 10:01:38 am »
Must have missed this...... Got a link to the FB post? I can't even make out the figure on my laptop, nevermind what colour the lines are
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2016, 11:26:38 am »
Must have missed this...... Got a link to the FB post? I can't even make out the figure on my laptop, nevermind what colour the lines are

I've had a look & couldn't see it. Was a few weeks ago. Lad with a K1 - Alex F
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2016, 11:36:59 am »
@rich83 I've tagged you in the post on Facebook. Anyone else want a tag?
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2016, 11:43:29 am »
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2016, 11:46:45 am »
As above. Settings used on the Revo and whether they were optimised after logging make all the difference....

What was the difference in boost? I'm guessing the boost trace is the bottom lines but it is really hard to make out

Settings were B7 T6 F6  :happy2:
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2016, 11:57:20 am »
Hi guys this is my car - need to make some more posts before I can post all the info
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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2016, 12:18:02 pm »
 As said above the Revo settings used were B7 T6 F6, i tried logging with lots of different settings and pushing the timing higher than 6 resulted in too much timing pull ( around 6 degrees on each cylinder ).

Tried playing around with the boost setting and didn't give any more benefit apart from more sporadic timing pull.

On the day at r tech I spoke to Niki and I was using too small a nozzle for the meth so fitted the next size up. Also had a small leak from the plastic pipe in the fuel pump basket assembly which has since been fixed.

Previous dyno run on the revo map made 358bhp and 360lbft at Ray West Tuning at Thruxton ( going again in August). But the Revo map never felt the same every day, some days it felt quick and next day it was like someone had taken the turbo off.

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Re: R-Tech vs Revo: Stage 2+
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2016, 12:18:36 pm »
Here's the spec list for those interested,

Rtech stage 2+ 370bhp 393lbft

THS intercooler

Revo intake

Loba HPFP

RS4 valve

High flow intercooler pipes with bayonet delete

Deatschwerks DW65V LPFP upgrade

Rev G diverter valve

AEM water methanol kit

AKS tuning throttle plate for WMI

Devils own WMI inline filter

Devils own WMI solenoid valve

Creation Motorsport runner flap delete

R-Tech full pcv delete

3 inch decat

R-tech boost tap

Sachs organic clutch

Loba single mass flywheel

Short shifter

Powerflex anti lift kit

Powerflex front wishbone bush

Relentless 32 way adjustable coilovers with pillowball top mounts

034 Motorsport track density engine mounts

Wossner 82.5mm forged Pistons

ZRP rifle drilled forged con rods

King racing bottom end bearings

ARP stud and nut headset

Milltek non res cat back exhaust

Big MFD instrument cluster swap

Polar Fis+ Advanced

Corbeau RRB sportline bucket seats

Roof wrapped gloss black

Rear bumper section wrapped gloss black

18" Bola B1 Gloss black 8.5j ET45

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