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tte420 or lo400 or mdx507 or TurboZentrum EFR6758 or something else??

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Shoduchi:
Nah, unless your engine temp was really low, I don't think so. I'd bet on the octane booster instead. :smiley:

ducman77:

--- Quote from: Shoduchi on November 26, 2016, 10:17:09 pm ---Nah, unless your engine temp was really low, I don't think so. I'd bet on the octane booster instead. :smiley:

--- End quote ---

Me too  :happy2: :happy2:

fab5freddy:
I'll base my review on what i know, and i'm no expert, but here in Ireland octane booster is a must, we only get 95 RON standard at the pump  :mad:

This stuff was recommended to me by my tuner, he is a good friend of Niki R tech and they have worked closely on maps over the years and share info on tuning the TFSI.

NF has made a noticeable difference on the performance of my car, i've no technical data to back this up, but i've been using it for the last two years and there's real mid range shove that wasn't available previously.

More over than any performance gain is knowing that my engine runs better, free from potential knock.

I use half a bottle per tank, which by the manufacturers calculations should take me to 98 RON, most of you run these levels of octane as normal practice. 6 octane per bottle is what the manufacturer claims, so do the maths, you guys should hit 105 if you use a full bottle.

Before going TTE420, i ran Ko4 stage 2+ for 3 years, same hardware, i used NF before the swap and noticed a real difference.

I think it has to be said before people get carried away, this isn't a remap in a bottle, it will certainly help, but please be realistic  :smiley:

@Shoduchi would be great if you can get it on the dyno and graph the real differences  :happy2:

ducman77:
fab5freddy makes a really good point :smiley:

The standard pump fuel in Ireland is rubbish!!

More like American fuel than U.K. or rest of Europe fuel. 95RON at best over here.

When my car was mapped initially (same tuner as fab5freddy) it only made 184hp and 200ft/lb bog standard. And 224hp - 240ft/lb after stage 1 map. Most UK cars will make 200hp standard and 240/250hp after stage 1.

So we're starting with a deficit.

When I asked my tuner his thoughts he commented on the possibility of the ECU pulling timing to compensate for our rubbish fuel. He's certainly seen it before.

Now that I'm running the NF I imagine the car (hopefully) has an Octane somewhere closer to what it's designed to have (circa 98/99). Therefore it's probably performing closer to its design specs!

It will be very interesting to see if a car like Shoduchis, which is used to a diet of 98RON, will see an appreciable difference from the booster??

Here's my Dyno plot for anyone that's interested...

AJP:
Good info @fab5freddy and @ducman77

@Andy could you split this into a new thread if you get a chance?

I'm thinking about R-Tech; Niki's maps are written specifically for 99ron fuel. Increasing the octane level of what's in your tank to 105 on a 99ron map would more than anything provide an extra level of safety/reliability over knock etc, like you guys have suggested.

But what happens when Niki or Rick write a map specifically for 105ron? Theoretically he could run even more timing and we could be looking at considerable gains. I'd imagine such a map would be switchable in conjunction with a 99ron map (in case you ran out of magic juice).

The more I think about this the more it sounds like (a very easy) water-meth. Which still sounds too good to be true!

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