All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications

Sach clutch fitted but....

<< < (14/17) > >>

NB07:
im sure the VWR demo car has a standard clutch, not sure about DMF but it feels like a standard clutch

Msportman:

--- Quote from: KRL on May 12, 2010, 10:24:08 am ---From what I understand the weak point on the OEM platform point seems to be the DMF and not the clutch?

If this is the case what is the point in replacing the DMF with another OEM one as surely if will fail again after a short amount of miles?

Does an uprated clutch extend the life of the DMF somehow?

--- End quote ---

Good point!

It seems to be that it's the achilles heal as far as big power set up's are concerned or even stage 1 people seem to be getting failures. From the previuos post that race teams tend to change the DMF on a regular basis that maybe the case but for normal folk surely the cost of having to do this is prohibitvely expensive.

Is there a 100% fit and forget it solution especially for people running stage 2 and more?

I'd be even more concerned on track use where a diff would put even more strain on the transmission (clutch in particular)

 

Sunglasses Ron:
My mate has a Spec Stage 3 SMF and clutch kit on his Stage 2+ S3 that was around £1k (that's not fitted by the way). Apart from it being a tad rattly (which even I could put up with and i'm terrible with unwanted noises) and taking a few k to settle in completely it's a proper bit of kit. Launches very easily now, handles the power with no worries at all.
I warned him not to go with a SMF set up as I had heard bad reports (Sachs set up) about it being loud and not being able to change gear quickly at high revs. But the Spec set up is very much recommended in my eyes.  :happy2:

Dandan:
Sorry for the noobish question:

I resently bought a 2005 mk5 GTI 2.0 TFSI and now thinking about remapping. My 2 choises are:

1.REVO (price.730€ inc. errorcode readings, installation and setting up(Boost 6, Timing 5 ja Fuel 9)

2.Local shop's remap price. 440€ (+45hp +80nM) inc. dyno runs before and after. (http://vtechtuning.co.uk/) <-- their Finland unit.

Trying to read every post about tuning in 2 days and have picked up alot of new information for me. However the clutch upgrading issue was pretty shocking to me  :scared: Do I really need to worry about having to spend 1k+ on a new clutch after just first stage? Before reading this I was under the impression that Stage 1 was perfectly safe with 100% stock parts.

john_o:
Theres no 100% when tuning Im afraid. I assume you are manual ?
Depends how many miles and how your car has been treated to some extent, along with the remap (amount of gain ,plus graph of delivery)
Any decent remap will give you good bhp/torque gains (torque especially which kills clutches/flywheels)
Most later cars seem to get away better with a stage 1 (either due to age or improved clutch parts)
Theres also a difference K03 GTI vs K04 Edition 30
The K04 cars tend to remap to higher values and therefore tend to have more issues sooner.
for your car its a K03 (lower low rpm torque hit , easier on clutch) , but its 2005 , so you may have an earlier version as well as many more miles (?)

consider it all as a matched set , flywheel / clutch plate / pressure plate / release bearing.
If one part is marginal or a weak link , youre going to get clutch slip.

I say talk to your tuner about it , but get the remap and budget for a clutch in the future just in case.
Also you want to consider 'respecting the clutch' once remapped , so no low rpm pulls (try and change down first) , no traffic light grand prixs etc, these may prolong its life.

Its a 2005 car , so you may also want to consider suspension/bushings as any power increase is going to highlight any age related weaknesses.


In remap terms, REVO is tried and tested but given you are in Finland support may be an issue?

The local shop remap, is it their own map ? or have they bought it in?
normally on this forum we would say , stay away from 'custom' remaps. But you may find its a well known name under the covers.
Anyone else had the remap locally that you can talk to?
They may be better for aftersales care and support if you hit issues.

Id say just go for it , dont worry too much about the what if's, if it breaks you'll have to fix it  :happy2:
Drive it to enjoy it  :pomppomp:

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page