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Brake pads for track days
tony_danza:
What Dave said about Carbotech is correct (similar pads with the same CM material likewise). Use them on new/reground or skimmed discs, or at the very, very least fully clean everything off them with garnet paper... they'll still judder for a while though until the pads remove the invisible stuff. I failed to clean mine enough and it took me half a day on track to stop them juddering, you have to try and kill them to build up enough heat for the pads to remove all contaminents.
You won't need more than an XP8, trust me. The 'Ring although requiring big braking, leaves plenty of time in between for cooling. I use these on mine and I've had the discs glowing without them fading.
Carbonne Lorraine is very serious stuff. I have a spare set of discs and some RC6's, but I can only use them on hot, dry track days as they beat the ABS. They will mince discs.
Look at Performance Friction too.
For non CM compounds Mintex are perfectly good, Pagids are supreme but twice the price, DS2500's I'm not keen on as they're full of clay and resin that causes judder if you cook them. EBC yellows whilst lacking feel do the job cheaply.
Oh, and to stop squealing, get some 3m anti vibration backing and stick it on the pads... works fine for me :happy2:
fuscobal:
Found Mintex MDB2604M1166 for 122 liras wich would be about the same as Carbotech XP10. I wonder how Ferodo DS1.11 would do against these 2 ? (Ferodo is easier to buy in my country, for the rest of them I'll have to look abroad) !
john_o:
top thread guys :happy2:
fuscobal:
--- Quote from: tony_danza on March 17, 2010, 09:29:44 am ---What Dave said about Carbotech is correct (similar pads with the same CM material likewise). Use them on new/reground or skimmed discs, or at the very, very least fully clean everything off them with garnet paper... they'll still judder for a while though until the pads remove the invisible stuff. I failed to clean mine enough and it took me half a day on track to stop them juddering, you have to try and kill them to build up enough heat for the pads to remove all contaminents.
You won't need more than an XP8, trust me. The 'Ring although requiring big braking, leaves plenty of time in between for cooling. I use these on mine and I've had the discs glowing without them fading.
Carbonne Lorraine is very serious stuff. I have a spare set of discs and some RC6's, but I can only use them on hot, dry track days as they beat the ABS. They will mince discs.
Look at Performance Friction too.
For non CM compounds Mintex are perfectly good, Pagids are supreme but twice the price, DS2500's I'm not keen on as they're full of clay and resin that causes judder if you cook them. EBC yellows whilst lacking feel do the job cheaply.
Oh, and to stop squealing, get some 3m anti vibration backing and stick it on the pads... works fine for me :happy2:
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I could only find some 3M tape that works on low temperature. Can you provide me a link please ?
I've already experienced judder with DS2500 on some very fast mountain roads wich means I went over their capacity and deformed the rotors probably !
fuscobal:
Mike from Carbotech said XP8 are the equivalent of DS2500 and XP10 the equiv of DS3000. He sais they can be used on street since they have good cold byte (I've also noticed very good cold bite from CL RC6 in the past). He also said the noise is decent and recommended XP10 for the fronts and XP8 for the rear as long as brake ducts if possible. My car with me and a passenger weighs 1700kg (3750lbs) and this is also very important on how the brakes work !
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