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370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
swf7y:
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--- Quote from: swf7y on December 22, 2010, 08:34:02 pm ---Great info guys :happy2: I have had a look through the Dyno thread Janner_Sy and it's mainly k04 powered cars on there.
From what you guys are saying, Revo's claim of 260bhp from a stage 1 map seems totally unrealistic. :indifferent:
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100% unrealistic. 240Hp is normal for stage 1, 260hp normal for stage 2
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You can achieve 250+ from a stage1 with the right map :wink:
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This I don't understand. Surely a Revo Stage 1 is the same map wherever you decide to get it done :confused:
I don't really know how dyno figures are generated but I reckon an average of 3 runs would probably give a more realistic figure. Maybe I'm completely wrong :laugh:
Sunglasses Ron:
--- Quote from: micky 32 on December 23, 2010, 01:48:42 am ---
--- Quote from: RobH on December 22, 2010, 11:16:12 pm ---So because JKM read lower figures then they must be right :indifferent:
When comparing againt other cars lets say mk2 FRS with around 400hp how can a stage 2+ car with a whopping 70hp less still keep up and the weight aint that much difference :confused:
^^^ the above is assuming JKM are perfect in every way and the max is 330hp from a K04.
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When something seems to be too good to be true it usually is. That's why i would be more toward JKM's rollers to be honest. Secondly tuned Ko4's can't keep up with 400bhp cars, they can to a certain point. Sunglasses ron posted a vid of a very heavy 400bhp M5 against a Ko4 car and the M5 started to walk away. The 2.0T is a very torquey engine so will give a good start off.
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That M5 is around 440bhp with those mods and it only started to claw back the gap that the Ed30 had pulled at got level at around 140mph+. At that speed weight has little affect and it's purely down to power and displacement. Something the M5 has to it's advantage, with an extra 3000cc, 4 cyl and around 80-100bhp..
So to me this only confirms that that Ed30 had a lot more than just 330bhp..
Same car against a Lotus Carlton.. :surprised:
NB07:
--- Quote from: Saint Steve on December 23, 2010, 07:23:21 am ---
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on December 22, 2010, 11:49:12 pm ---For instance a stage 2+ K03 is pretty much neigh on identical in performance to a stage 1 k04. which would make sense as they are similar power, that is unless you believe your stage 1 is making 315hp+ as many do, if so then these little 2+ k03's must be about that as well.
Ok i submit. your car is 390Hp. :grin:
anyway, i refer back to my previous post :grin:
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--- Quote from: richwig83 on December 22, 2010, 05:33:05 pm ---I know the pic shows an IC, but its not mentioned in the description!
So 370 with S2+ ? Is that do-able? It sound A LOT!!
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its dependant on dyno. if you go to awesome @ the moment then you will see 360-370hp. if you go to AMD you'll get 390hp if you go to JKm you'll get 330Hp. Id average the lot and that s prob about rigfht, which is about 360hp
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Spot on . Both these cars are the same on the road. Tells alot :happy2:
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dont think so when robin made 245 at stage 2 and wigit and i made 300 on stage 1. :happy2:
i have contacted charlie to find out if we can use his rollers again as everyone was happy that the results were accurate. id be interested to find out if all the mods on my car since going originally have made more than 30hp, i hope so! but kind of doubt it after neil only made that with decat and all the trimmings. :xmaspresent:
have put a thread in the meets section to get numbers
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23028.0.html :happy2:
Janner_Sy:
--- Quote from: NB07 on December 23, 2010, 09:42:20 am ---dont think so when robin made 245 at stage 2 and wigit and i made 300 on stage 1. :happy2:
i have contacted charlie to find out if we can use his rollers again as everyone was happy that the results were accurate. id be interested to find out if all the mods on my car since going originally have made more than 30hp, i hope so! but kind of doubt it after neil only made that with decat and all the trimmings. :xmaspresent:
have put a thread in the meets section to get numbers
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23028.0.html :happy2:
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Robins was the lowest powered stage 2 cars ive ever seen, but thats a result of him running very conservative settings. He actually running 260hp now.
However that comparison doesnt work anyway as i want on about a stage 2+ k03 car, i was on about a stage 2+ car which are in the region of 270-280hp.
This is a stage 2+ k03(shark performance) on JKMs
This is a stage 1 K04 on JKMs rollers (revo stage 1)
very similar aren't they. Soooo if the k04 can make >315hp @ stage 1 then so can the stage 2+ k03, which it doesn't because its not possible. Also ignoring figures i assure you from personal experiendce that the k03 stage 2+ has no issues staying with a stage 1 k04 on the road. which backs all this up
Sunglasses Ron:
Come on Sy, you can clearly see that the KO4 has 0.2 more bhp which will be huge on the road.. :signLOL:
I'm guessing that's the best Stage 2+ Ko3 against one of the worst Stage 1 KO4's too? :wink: I don't care what anyone says (including JKM) a Stage 1 KO4 (Revo) should be making at least 285-290bhp if set up right and on the right fuel..
But I wouldn't imagine there to be much difference on the road between the 2 TBH. Maybe the KO4 to be slightly quicker at the top end due to it making it's power at higher revs (which is where it's needed at high speeds)..
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