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370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??

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jon-tfsi:
A particular K03 Stg2+ might be able to keep up with a particular K04 Stg1 on the road. But in my experience the average Stg2+ K03 would be no match for the average Stg1 K04. The difference in top end power is pretty significant.

Janner_Sy:

--- Quote from: jon-tfsi on December 23, 2010, 12:33:28 pm ---A particular K03 Stg2+ might be able to keep up with a particular K04 Stg1 on the road. But in my experience the average Stg2+ K03 would be no match for the average Stg1 K04. The difference in top end power is pretty significant.

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the difference in top end power!!!  The top end power is pretty much identical except the k03 makes it slightly earlier.  @ stage 1 k04 there is very very little difference in them at all.  stage 2 k04 and its bye bye, but not stage 1

--- Quote from: Sunglasses Ron on December 23, 2010, 12:32:31 pm ---Come on Sy, you can clearly see that the KO4 has 0.2 more bhp which will be huge on the road..  :signLOL:
I'm guessing that's the best Stage 2+ Ko3 against one of the worst Stage 1 KO4's too?  :wink: I don't care what anyone says (including JKM) a Stage 1 KO4 (Revo) should be making at least 285-290bhp if set up right and on the right fuel..
But I wouldn't imagine there to be much difference on the road between the 2 TBH. Maybe the KO4 to be slightly quicker at the top end due to it making it's power at higher revs (which is where it's needed at high speeds)..

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I agree ron.  Maybe slightly quicker at the very top end, but by then were talking well above 100mph. 

As you say that the k04 stage 1 should be making 280-290Hp.  having a trawl through their galleries they are pretty much all around the 270-280Hp region which is only a minimal increase over a stage 2+.  so on the road there would be very little difference, and when you counter in the k03 stage 2+ would have the midrange torque advantage due to the fuel pump.  Id say on a 1/4 the stage 1 k04 could just get the legs being able to make power that bit higher up the Rev band.  On a track id say the k03 2+ would have it.  Due to the midrange advantage.

micky 32:
Sunglasses Ron, you mustn't be up to speed on yer laws of physics  :wink:. We all know the faster a car goes the weight multiplies. At 140 mph it will be hugely heavy. The M5 starts out nearly half a ton heavier than the Golf. At 140mph the gap will be even huger. It will need a lot more power than the Golf to maintain 140 mph.

 Now even if the M5 has 440bhp which is not optimistic increase from a N/A engine? I reckon it would still need at least 100bhp more to reel in the Golf at those speeds so i reckon 330-340 would be about right for the Golf.

Hedge:
I'll just throw this little spanner in the works then. Stage 2 only K03  :wink:

Hedge:

--- Quote from: micky 32 on December 23, 2010, 12:58:37 pm ---Sunglasses Ron, you mustn't be up to speed on yer laws of physics  :wink:. We all know the faster a car goes the weight multiplies.

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Not sure on that Physics Law myself unless you are approaching the speed of light.  :surprised:

Wind resistance increases with the square of the velocity but I didn't think that mass changes. :confused:

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