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APR stage 2+ v3.0
RobH:
Oh yeah i forgot its all one peice :fighting2:
Id consider doing it if i had a 4wd varient of the 2.0tfsi but fwd would just be pointless :sad1:
Keith@APR:
--- Quote from: robdf2 on February 05, 2012, 01:26:55 pm ---Hi Keith,
It seems that Poverty has caused quite a stir with his review of your new software package not only here but over on the SEAT forums.
Its threads like this that keep us guys interested in improving and falling in love again with our cars :laugh:
but its also good to have some good old competion , so welcome to the uk :smiley:
I was probably one of those people who was swayed to go Revo after all the hype around APR v Revo , with 90% of forum members going Revo and saying it was the best thing since sliced bread , but i did have an upsolute map on my old volvo 2.0t (yes i know the shame of it) and i have to say that was the best £ to smile than i ever had even better than the Revo map i have today , so i do think its unfair to judge companies before trying their product , so im very interested in the new development work that APR is doing.
I do have a question though , now it would seem that APR is taking a big interest in the uk , especially since you have said you are here full time , will there be any synergies now between American and uk pricing?
I think its been demonstarated already that we can import APR parts into the uk and still make a substanial saving over UK APR pricing , obviously maps will have to come from the uk , is there any chance that APR will review their parts pricing policies?
oh and welcome to the UK
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Thanks for the welcome!
I've priced everything as low as possible.
I've taken the cost that APR USA has to make the products, added in 10% for profit plus what's necessary to cover the costs of the UK operation and then added in margin for dealers to arrive at the retail prices.
I'm not sure how you guys get them in any cheaper. I am shipping by pallets and paying very, very low shipping prices, less than 1 USD per pound of shipping weight.
The only thing I can figure is that when you import them yourselves, the companies you buy from are reducing the invoices or sending them as a gift or warranty repair so you don't pay any import duties. This would dramatically reduce the prices as you've relayed.
The only catch to importing them yourself however, is there is no warranty for products purchased in this manner and if we find out which APR dealers are doing this, they lose part of their discount and if they continue to do so, they will no longer be an APR dealer.
We like to run a clean business and have enough margin in the products to provide outstanding warranty and customer service.
I do understand everyone likes to save money so I can empathize with those of you that do participate in gray market sourcing.
The unfortunate fact of the matter though, is that if me being here just results in more people from the UK buying from other countries, we will have to pull out of the market as we won't be able to sustain the costs of the operation. However, I'm not terribly worried about it because most people will buy from us due to our levels of service and most importantly because they want to have a warranty.
I wish there was more I could do to lower the prices but its really up to the Queen. :sad1:
Keith@APR:
--- Quote from: heavyd on February 05, 2012, 12:44:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: Keith@APR on February 04, 2012, 07:08:17 pm ---
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--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on February 04, 2012, 01:17:24 pm ---For me to be like Dom I need the same map twice. I'm not planning on going back to shark lol
Just waiting on a come back from keith@APR
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You have some catching up to do!
Superchips stage 1
superchips stage 2
superchips stage 3 (3 revisions)
revo stage 2+
PDtuning stage 2
Shark stage 3 ( 7 revisions)
Shark stage 1
Pdtuning stage 2
Revo stage 2
comins soon Revo stage 2+
Beat that :popcornsoda:
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Well, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't try us then.
If you want to try our map before the Revo S2+, you won't have to pay anything unless you want to keep it and then I'll only charge the 50GBP Revo upgrade price.
FWIW, when you buy any Stage 1,2 or 2+ APR software at offered price, upgrades or downgrades to Stage 1,2 or 2+ are free. You only have to pay for software again if you go ko4 with someone else's hardware kit besides ours.
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Very generous offer Keith :happy2:
Quite a hard decision to make, as since I fitted the APR HPFP yesterday. then datalogged it and everything is running perfectly.
APR dealer is about 150 miles away, PDTuning Revo dealer is about 4 miles away. I'm still within the 30 day money back guarantee with Revo aswell. But then again, I dont want to using a relatively new map and have to get the engine rebuilt again :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:
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Where are you located? I travel quite a bit, maybe I can come see you?
Keith@APR:
--- Quote from: heavyd on February 05, 2012, 01:38:57 pm ---On that subject, APR uk wanted £979 + shipping for an APR hpfp. Another UK supplier charges £750 inc delivery for exactly the same item :stupid:
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Sometimes used HPFP's sourced by the dealer are sent to us for a rebuild and unfortunately sold as new pumps. Because I've caught wind of this happening rather frequently in the UK and Europe, we are establishing a better tracking process and identification system for used, rebuilt pumps and new pumps.
Keith@APR:
--- Quote from: RobH on February 05, 2012, 01:39:13 pm ---One thing i dont understand is why when our cars come with a borgwarner turbo do we upgrade them with Garret's. Borg warner have just releised the EFR range would it not be a straight swap from the Turbo we have now to the 6758 turbo plus a revised map?
Im probably talking absolute bollox here mind :rolleye:
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Unfortunately EFR turbo's are very large for the performance they deliver. We've tested them and they work fantastic but getting them in between the engine and fire wall creates too many compromises in exhaust manifold and exhaust downpipe design so the GTX's are the winners for us.
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