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RobH:
Vettel has gained plenty of points in the past from team orders, he's gained (at the moment) 7 points here by been "ruthless" and ignoring team orders, seems as though he only agrees with them when hes benefiting :stupid:
Lets see how many he loses when Webber rights him off later on in the championship from been "ruthless" :evilgrin:
7 point gain might be a 25 point loss later on.
At the end of the day its the team that sends them racing, when the team decides no more racing, that should be final, but no its all about me me me with vettel :stupid:
Surprise surprise Robin defending vettels actions :indifferent:
Janner_Sy:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on March 28, 2013, 05:32:16 pm ---^^^^
@ Makaveli:
Who said that racing for the F1 championship had to be "fair"?
Vettel certainly took full advantage, Webber tried to resist but couldn't, so Vettel got to the chequered flag first and won the extra championship points. To win a championship a driver has to be ruthless and Vettel has that quality/characteristic.
--- End quote ---
But couldnt. Watch the replay of the overtake. Webber just let him past rather than risk the team loosing both cars due to someone else's reckless behaviour. On the replay Anthony Hamilton showed how Webber was on the correct line and had he stayed on that correct line Vettel would have been driven off the track and Webber would not have been at fault. He chose to think of the team. Vettel didnt beat him, Webber let him past.
In the BTCC threads your normally very anti Plato for doing similar stuff :confused:
RedRobin:
^^^^
Yes, I'm human afterall, Sy, and therefore can be irrational :grin: - I don't like Plato and I prefer Vettel to Webber (who I feel indifferent to).
As said by Makaveli, it is about ethics. I'm just saying that I understand and appreciate the attitudes of such highly competitive racers and I'm not willing to judge them or take a moral high ground, I'm just seeing the real world with warts and all. Really, all this is no big deal and not much different from other stuff that goes on in the arena of F1.
Most of us would probably like to think that we would not have done what Vettel did at Sepang, but until you are actually in any situation you never really know. It's hypothetical of course but...
Janner_Sy:
Here you go Robin
Silverstone 2011. Vettel basically asked the team to keep Webber who was faster, behind him. Mark showed he was the quicker car by pulling alongside to prove a point and then held back as he was asked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYPCS3VXxGY
Hedge:
Bunch of duplicitous, two-faced sh*ts.
Either let them race or ensure team orders are obeyed. :fighting:
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