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keendean:

--- Quote from: stealthwolf on August 21, 2012, 02:05:58 pm ---
I'm not convinced that there's any benefit with using both SRP and BH. Blackhole has fillers and glaze. SRP has very light cut polish and fillers. My concern would be the BH removing the SRP. A true glaze just has oils in it with no cleaning/filling ability.

I would:
Power rinse->2BM->rinse->(dry)->Tar remover->rinse->clay->several coats of SRP->seal/wax.

A week or so later, rinse->2BM->rinse->dry->wax and do this every time the beading is going.

Every week: rinse->2BM->rinse->dry.

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Jeesh I'm lost. PB Black hole and PB wax, I read was a good combo.  It's not a SRP treat in a very long time. (2BM? is?)

So would Phase 1 be-

Clean
Rinse
Dry?
Tar Remove
Rinse
Claybar
SRP?

Phase 2

Clean
Rinse
Dry
PB Black hole
PB Natty wax

Phase 3 (reg up keep)

Wash, dry.
DJ red mist detailer?

It's a learning curve for sure, and an expensive one in terms of time and money, hence I want to get the best results possible, with the limitations I have, plus the skill level is 0/10 at the moment  :signLOL:
No snow foam atm, but have just spent enough, and need to start giving it some love  :happy2:

keendean:

--- Quote from: Welshman Adam on August 21, 2012, 12:52:35 pm ---This is making good reading. 

I picked up my Pearlescent Diamond Black ED30 just last Wednesday and have washed it twice already, but am yet to wax it (the guy I bought it from treated it very well and water is still beading).

I have some Dodo Juice Purple Haze on the way to me so will be applying some of that at the weekend weather permitting.  That said the wet look, using SRP and Black Hole, is appealing... 

Be good to see some pics of the results when you're finished KeenDean.

Cheers,

Adam

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Hey Adam, I am a complete novice, so I'm not expecting Phase 1 results to look amazing, I've been using hand washes the past 6 months.  But will post some pics up. I've also got BBS RZ's which are similar to the ED30 alloys, I'm going to wax them next to protect them from brake dust etc, one thing at a time though  :popcornsoda:

stealthwolf:

--- Quote from: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:24:38 pm ---Jeesh I'm lost.
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In some ways, for good reason. The world of detailing is fraught with confusing issues and I think a lot comes down to personal preference, even amongst the pros.


--- Quote from: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:24:38 pm ---PB Black hole and PB wax, I read was a good combo.
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Then stick to that. Skip out the SRP.


--- Quote from: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:24:38 pm ---  It's not a SRP treat in a very long time.
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That sentence doesn't make sense. The words are English but they're not in the correct order.


--- Quote from: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:24:38 pm ---(2BM? is?)
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Two-bucket method wash.



--- Quote from: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:24:38 pm ---So would Phase 1 be-


Phase 2

Phase 3 (reg up keep)
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Not sure what you're getting at with the phases. You detail the car. Every week you'll wash it. Occasionally (every few months), you'll top up the wax after washing the car.



--- Quote from: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:24:38 pm ---I want to get the best results possible
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Then you're better off getting the car detailed by a pro with you doing maintenance washes.


--- Quote from: keendean on August 21, 2012, 07:24:38 pm ---the skill level is 0/10 at the moment
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Which means it will take time, effort, learning and cash to get the best results possible.

I would probably do this:

Every six months: power rinse, 2BM wash, rinse, dry, tar, rinse, clay, wash, dry, polish (using either SRP or BH), seal with wax or sealant of your choice.
Every week: power rinse, 2BM wash, rinse, dry
Every month or so: power rinse, 2BM wash, rinse, dry, top up wax

keendean:

It's not 'had' a SRP treatment in a very long time.

Feel de-motivated and de-moralised,  :sad1:

There is conflicting information, so it hard what to know to do for the best. Black being a colour I find difficult to clean, and to keep looking good.

stealthwolf:
Why? Part of detailing is learning about new products, experimenting with existing ones, looking at and learning new techniques, picking up hints and tips.

When I had my first car, I thought my single bucket, sponge, chamois and bottle of Zipwax wash'n'wax was all I needed to clean my car. Even now, years on, I'm still learning new stuff and will continue to do so.

Set some time aside this weekend and make a start. See how you get on. You might find it's awesome. You might not.

If it helps, to get me in the mood, I tend to read the write ups done by pros like on here and on detailingworld.

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