All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Rear Brake Pad Upgrades....
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: stokeballoon on September 18, 2009, 08:13:56 pm ---
The front may not be as 'Eye-candy' as AP, Tarox, or Brembo, but the system works very well. It is all about function for me. That is why I think the Audi S3 looks a far better car that the pictures of the golf R20.
But as always each to their own.
:happy2:
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....Indeed each to their own but you appear to be saying that you think the Audi S3 is a far better car than the Golf R because you think the S3 looks better. To me, for example, the S3's looks don't appeal and neither do its looks say "I am better designed etc".
Are you saying that you think the S3 is a 'better' car because you prefer its aesthetic styling?
No car is perfect and I expect you'd also agree that no helicopter is perfect - They each have their individual strengths and weaknesses and appeal in very different ways to our individual senses on many levels - Just like women! (or men if you're gay).
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: jabbalad on September 03, 2009, 12:59:58 am ---
--- Quote from: DaveB1970 on September 02, 2009, 10:14:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: jabbalad on September 02, 2009, 01:40:03 pm ---In my opinion i would just stick some decent pads in the back, front wheel drive cars shouldnt use much rear braking... when your trying to do everything through the front wheels the last thing you want to do it to make the back too stable!
Thats my part anyway, and i dont really need to justify this...
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Not necessary to justify anything mate, could you just elaborate on the bit Ive highlighted
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no problem, when your fast road or track driving in a front wheel drive car the only way it's going to go quick is if you can be the last on the brakes and first on the power, the only way to do this is to have the car pointing in the right direction as early into the corner as possible with the least ammout of steering input a possible... This doesn't work if the back end is too settled! (we have tried it) you can brake much further into corners with very little rear brake.
I see what your saying that the more even braking should mean better stopping abuility... And on mid engined or rear engined cars this is correct, but it's not really the right direction for front engined front drive cars! In my opinion of course.
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But that is fine when used purely on the track. But for on highway use - it is NOT the best, nor safest way to set up the brakes! :fighting: :fighting:
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on September 18, 2009, 08:39:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: RedRobin on September 02, 2009, 11:01:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on September 02, 2009, 10:55:32 pm ---
Guys, whilst this is all good discussion - I can't help feel confused.
I have a big brake kit arriving any time this week. Should I also look at upgrading my rear pads, or go for the plunge and upgrade the discs as well?
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....Personally I would get to know your front big brake kit first and then later think about your rears.
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I'd have to strongly dispute that. What if he lost the rear round a corner whilst braking - which could be highly likely if you just go for 'bigger' fronts!
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....What, like everyone else who has only fitted a big brake kit to their fronts hasn't done?
[You wanna stay off the brakes mid corner anyway]
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on September 03, 2009, 07:33:12 am ---I've taken the plunge and gone for a big brake kit from HiSpec- 2-piece 360mm diameter discs, steel braided lines, 6 pot billeted calipers, 5.1 brake fluid, and some Ferodo DS2500 pads.
http://www.hispecbrake.co.uk/calipers.htm
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Hmmmm . . . . not really known on the VAG scene - and this shocking cock-up shows - http://www.hispecbrake.co.uk/Conversions/START%20audi.htm - do they REALLY think that an Audi S2 is the same as an A2 !!!! :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :sick:
And they don't know the difference between a Mk4 Golf and a Mk5 - http://www.hispecbrake.co.uk/Conversions/START%20vw.htm
Teutonic_Tamer:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on September 03, 2009, 05:22:43 pm ---Agreed. Modding enhances a car because the manufacturer builds them to a lower common denominator.
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Nope, they build them to appeal to the masses, at a reasonable price. Volkswagen are, afterall, a mainstream manufacturer, just like say F0rd, V@uxhall, Reno, etc, and NOT some high end sports car manufacturer!
--- Quote from: RedRobin on September 03, 2009, 05:22:43 pm ---Example: The VW air intake is more of a hot air intake because VW have to cater for cold starts in colder climates [probably not the best example, but].
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What an utter load of BS. The standard GTI intake is probably in one of the most efficient areas, and is DEFINATELY a COLD air intake!!!! :booty:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on September 03, 2009, 05:22:43 pm ---And then there's all the crap about emissions etc.
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Emissions may be 'crap' - but they are a legal requirement! :indifferent:
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