All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Bushes, WALK & Coilover combos?
Tfsi_Mike:
AST's on APRs Golf R demo car felt So comfortable & factory, however the handling was immense.
My bilstein PSS10 both ride And handle much better than my previous KW V3.
It is so, so easy to adjust the billys to the comfiest setting. Even on half way or more towards hard it is so civilised. It handled well on the KW's but it was quite harsh & crashy.
I feel I've got an amazing setup. It's been used on several Trackdays and it handles amazingly! Yet on the road it's really civilised.
The handling is helped by the SuperPro Balljoints, anti lift & Ground control top mounts.
I would say it's easily achievable to get great handling without comprising comfort.
I'll see if Sy has a minute to comment as he has experienced various setups too & I know he has commented on it before.
Janner_Sy:
Someone call :innocent:
I had the APs on mine. Thought they were great in Germany on high quality well maintained roads. Also thought they were good on track. BUT within about a month of me returning to the UK I removed them because on our roads the ride was shocking. I've also been in alot of cars with KW V1/2/3 and weitec and i didn't rate them either for Road use. I HATED the KWs on mikes car. Best move he ever did was get rid of them! I vowed never to get coilovers again.
That was until I drove the APR demo Golf R. The ASTs are sublime. The balance of comfort/handling IMO is amazing. The bilsteins are very nearly the same level as well. They Are The Only two i would consider.
I'm always intrigued why people buy budget coilovers though. Why not get a top end spring/damper kit like the Bilstein B12.
xjay1337:
Because budget coilovers are very nice for the money. I paid £180 for my JOMs and they handled well and rode very nicely too (I did mega miles at the time). Vs spring and damper kit which isn't so "budget" at all... damper and spring kit will be over £400 most of the time.
Plus some people believe that spring based lowering kits are a bit pointless :ashamed:
--- Quote from: vRSAlex on December 09, 2013, 12:34:08 pm ---If you haven't driven Bilstein, H&R or Ohlins (£2.8k at the min :happy2:) then its very hard to compare. They kick the pants off KW.
I do indeed sell more the expensive coilovers, but I don't push them on people, and I fit around their budgets. I do sell the more expensive products because I believe in them, and they have far better longevity and warranties with them.
Check the Whiteline WALK review thread to see failures. The roll bars have poor quality bushes with them too. Put H&R/Eibach etc next to Whiteline and the quality between them can easily be seen.
--- End quote ---
Oh £2.8k how reasonable. :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: I thought my air setup at £3300 was a bargain... !! :confused:
So £450 vs £2.8k , are the £2.8k ones 5 times better?
Buy the APs and with the change you could powerflex the WHOLE car, fit a NQSBBK, fit whatever roll bars you want, as well as go Stage 2+ (fuel pump and S3 intercooler inclusive) and still have money left over.. :scared: Guarantee the APR + other bits car would be more fun to drive and faster round a track, even take away the power upgrades
While no-one is denying the Ohlins aren't better, for road and perhaps occasional light track use the difference (which may be there under full racing circumstances) would become far, far less apparent and ergo are not worth the money.
(not having a dig just engaging in a discussion)
Janner_Sy:
The amount of people on here who have had multiple sets of coilovers because they bought cheap the first time. But nice or buy twice.
Any one who puts a £180 coilovers on an expensive high quality hot hatch isn't someone id take advice from!
Scottymon:
TBF, having read A LOT of forum threads about the JOM's from different countries they get a good response from the majority of people - 2 year warranty inc.
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