All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Bushes, WALK & Coilover combos?
Msportman:
I run both Powerflex and Super Pro on my Golfs.
My set up on my Ed30 is KW Clubsports (These give Camber adjustment) in conjunction with WALK kit. The bushes have been done on the rear and have really tightened the rear end "squirm" when the bushes start to slacken off.
The Superpro are good and are available in different stiffness.....they are more than acceptable for ride quality as are the KW's which are fully adjustable and are excellent quality and have finite adjustment......spring rates are stiffer than V3's but they are not crashy and give a very compliant ride.
The Powerflex on the MK2 are again very good.....the chassis on the MK5 isw much stiffer than the MK2 hence you feel more in the MK2!!
Good luck!!
vRSAlex:
--- Quote from: xjay1337 on December 08, 2013, 12:58:51 am ---Just buy some AP coilovers or Weitecs or something around that price bracket... in all honesty you won't notice anything more on the road or during light track use. Don't get caught up on brand either... :stupid:
I had Whiteline front and rear roll bars on my last car and they were very good, no nonsense and good value. They're of a suitable size as well (a 27 or 28mm bar is too big...) - Again my opinion.
There are kits listed online and there's not really much difference between Powerflex and Superpro it's all much of a muchness.. like Cheddar from Tesco and Cheddar from Sainsburys. All the bushes are sold separately but you can buy them all at once..
--- End quote ---
Disagree with you.
So have you used Bilsteins, H&R's, Ohlins on the road to compare against the likes of AP and weitec? Night and day difference. Ride is smoother, takes up all the little bumps with ease, yet they corner flatter. I'm in the position that ive used and fitted 90% of coilovers and damper combos on many different cars. The more you spend the better they are.
Superpro vs powerflex vs whiteline. More like economy cheese vs finest. Superpro will always be the best in terms of fit and quality, powerflex just behind. Whiteline iisn't great imo. Seen too many fail.
You can dramatically improve the ride quality by fitting coilovers and bushes over the standard crashy and wallowing items.
28 front and 24mm rear roll bars are a fantastic combo. Improves the roll and response without compromising the ride.
Hurdy:
I have Bilstein B16 PSS10's, H&R front and rear ARBs, Full Powerfex bushing front and rear and Whiteline anti-lift kit. The only thing I would change is the Whiteline ALK for the Superpro ALK and front arm replacement combo, but it isn't a bad set-up as it is.
I have used a few different set-ups in the past and driven many different set-ups too and this combo is the best I have used.
This is on my MKVI Golf R, but is not too dissimilar to my old MKV ED30 set-up. :happy2:
xjay1337:
--- Quote from: vRSAlex on December 09, 2013, 08:07:55 am ---
--- Quote from: xjay1337 on December 08, 2013, 12:58:51 am ---Just buy some AP coilovers or Weitecs or something around that price bracket... in all honesty you won't notice anything more on the road or during light track use. Don't get caught up on brand either... :stupid:
I had Whiteline front and rear roll bars on my last car and they were very good, no nonsense and good value. They're of a suitable size as well (a 27 or 28mm bar is too big...) - Again my opinion.
There are kits listed online and there's not really much difference between Powerflex and Superpro it's all much of a muchness.. like Cheddar from Tesco and Cheddar from Sainsburys. All the bushes are sold separately but you can buy them all at once..
--- End quote ---
Disagree with you.
So have you used Bilsteins, H&R's, Ohlins on the road to compare against the likes of AP and weitec? Night and day difference. Ride is smoother, takes up all the little bumps with ease, yet they corner flatter. I'm in the position that ive used and fitted 90% of coilovers and damper combos on many different cars. The more you spend the better they are.
Superpro vs powerflex vs whiteline. More like economy cheese vs finest. Superpro will always be the best in terms of fit and quality, powerflex just behind. Whiteline iisn't great imo. Seen too many fail.
You can dramatically improve the ride quality by fitting coilovers and bushes over the standard crashy and wallowing items.
28 front and 24mm rear roll bars are a fantastic combo. Improves the roll and response without compromising the ride.
--- End quote ---
We are all able to have our opinions. :)
I've driven on JOMs, FKs, APs and KW V2s and my own air set up.
Air trounces everything even with no front roll bar. With Airlift PERFORMANCE struts and a decent roll bar set up it would be amazing.
However what I will say (and that is my point), the difference between AP and KW V2 was certainly not worth the HUGE price difference. You could powerflex most of the car (including labour) and buy front and rear roll bars for the same amount of money you'd save buying the APs over the V2s.. and Ohlines, they're like £2k? Really???
With no offense or any implications meant, to you it's easy for you to recommend the most expensive coilovers as you sell them.
I think a 28mm front bar is too big to be honest, especially with a 24mm rear. I wouldn't go larger than 24mm on the rear as with a 24mm front and 23mm rear (whiteline so adjusted appropriately) my old TDI became very neutral to oversteery. Any more and the inexperienced will spin the minute they back off the throttle in a fast corner.
I can only speak on personal experience as I've not tried any other bars, but my whiteline ones were great - How can they fail to be honest? Unless they snap.. I am not aware if Whiteline do other bushes but I was referring specifically to their roll bars. I also paid £300 for the pair brand new from my supplier.
vRSAlex:
If you haven't driven Bilstein, H&R or Ohlins (£2.8k at the min :happy2:) then its very hard to compare. They kick the pants off KW.
I do indeed sell more the expensive coilovers, but I don't push them on people, and I fit around their budgets. I do sell the more expensive products because I believe in them, and they have far better longevity and warranties with them.
Check the Whiteline WALK review thread to see failures. The roll bars have poor quality bushes with them too. Put H&R/Eibach etc next to Whiteline and the quality between them can easily be seen.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version