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Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:01:04 pm »
My edition 30 is going for a remap in a couple of months, going for stage 1.5!
Wil the clutch need changing for this? If so what do people recommend for a decent uprated clutch?

Cheers
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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 07:58:14 pm »
If not straight away it will eventually  :sad1:

Helix clutch. Replace Dual Mass flywheel, slave cylinder and bolts while your at it.

See Alex @ AKS tuning  :happy2:
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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 08:59:22 pm »
Cheers! Do you know roughly how much it is for one of these clutches?
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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 09:12:44 pm »
There was a group buy last year, and will probably be one later this year:

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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 09:19:25 pm »
Cheers mate
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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2015, 09:20:08 pm »
I think you're looking at about £1000 all in including fitting.

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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2015, 04:14:46 pm »
Awesome sell the Helix for £469, but if they have none in stock, there is currently a 3 week lead time from the date of order.  I think they are 16 or so kits behind and they are hand made, so take some time to make.

When you order it, you need to specify SACHs or LUK flywheel.  If you don't know which FW you have (VW changed makes circa 2007), just buy a new LUK FW from EuroCarParts anyway, and get the clutch to match.   

Alternatively, there is the SACHS SRE Performance clutch which is rated to 400lbft, but the feedback I've read on it is very heavy pedal and judder when taking up the bite.   Neither are what you want in heavy traffic.

My original clutch at 85K has just started slipping in 4th and 5th at 3500rpm, following a remap, so it's not a case of if, but when.   To keep costs down, you can go for another stock clutch (£240 + FW) which will be fine for the first half of it's life, but it will slip again after that.


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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2015, 06:47:09 pm »
Cheers! Yeah I've heard about just getting a new standard one but they go again pretty soon after, sounds like it's worth paying for a decent one that will last
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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2015, 11:43:56 am »
A new standard one will last you about 35-40K I reckon, depending on how you drive it.    I put over 60K on a Helix in my old VR6 Turbo and although it got heavier (all clutches do past 50% wear), it still gripped like sh*te to a blanket!


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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2015, 01:12:06 pm »
From my research on ETKA, the best bet for a dual mass FW is the Ed.30/R20 that is produced by LUK. The R20 has available a dual mass FW from Sachs as well (different PN). It can take the punishment of a tuned GTI Ed. 30 up to Stage 2 with ease.

Helix or Sachs both do good enough reinforced clutches. The Helix clutch is cheaper and for what was said previously it's better for a daily driver.

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Re: Will I need a new clutch? If so which one?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2015, 01:14:28 pm »
I think I recall Alex telling me all VAG stuff came with LUK aside from  :jumpmove:a few Audi S3's"

Not worth the risk IMO. buy a luk flywheel and replace both while you're in there anyway.
or if you decide not to, send the flywheel back as return.