MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: RedRobin on February 10, 2010, 05:05:02 pm
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Replacing the oem air intake with an aftermarket high-flow tubular air intake invariably means losing the oem engine cover. A 4-pot engine does not have the same visual appeal as a V6, V8, V12 etc, nor the appeal of their sound but that's a different story! Some of us are happy to leave the engine exposed - Doing so doesn't present any problems but a cover does offer some protection from weather splashing in and also does much to make the engine bay look a lot tidier. Okay, I know there are macho Phillistines amongst us who don't care about engine bay eye-candy.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FTWINtake%2FTwinake_enginebay.jpg&hash=d25203df4213105dde13d406d0c464531e31f189)
Others of us prefer to have an engine cover but there aren't a lot of options on offer. One solution is to cut down the oem plastic cover and even go a few steps further and beautify it as Neil has so skillfully done : -
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11138.msg170827#msg170827
Evoms offer a black finished aluminium engine cover but, if you can get hold of one, it has some shortfalls in its design. Hence I carried out some improvements which others may find useful.
The first shortfall is the hole through which you have to pass the MAF cable and Coolant bottle hose whenever you take on/off the Evoms cover. This means disconnecting both cable and hose and until you have unscrewed and partly moved the cover you can't even access the MAF connector! My solution to this is quite simple: Just take a fine hacksaw and open the 'O' to form a 'U' - Why couldn't the designers have thought of that.
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^ This leaves a 'peninsular' for one of the fixing points but there are no stresses when fitted.
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^ Recently it's been rightly pointed out that the coolant bottle hose (header return) could suffer from undue wear by being gradually cut by the metal Evoms cover (whether 'O' or 'U'). This could be potentially dangerous. The following two photos show a solution:
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Another shortfall is the difficulty of fixing onto the existing engine bracket adjacent to the air intake and battery. That bracket gets very hot! So imagine you're out on a run and have to stop to check something out such as a coilpack and want to remove the engine cover. Apart from the physical difficulty of getting your fingers inside and under the cover to access the bolt, you could easily burn yourself.
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So my solution has been to use a thermal metal-to-metal glue to secure stainless steel washers and threaded bolt (hex screw) so the bolt is permanently fixed and acts like a peg into the engine bracket. A rubber washer and stainless nut can be further used once the cover is fitted but I haven't found this necessary. The result is that I don't have to hurt or burn my fingers or drop nuts and bolts irretrievably down amongst the engine.
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^ Threaded 'peg' on outer side, ready to offer as male to the female bracket.
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^ Permanently glued hex screw on inner side to form a peg. This is on the inside under the cover - The area seriously difficult to access. If you are wondering why there are two large washers it's part of my necessary repair to restore a hole. The particular Evoms cover I was given had this area cut away but I don't understand why - Perhaps to slip over a loose nut and bolt already in the bracket and then tighten. This would avoid the difficult access problem but wouldn't be very secure as it could jump upwards if jolted and then start rattling.
Incidentally, with some of the aftermarket intakes and especially on cars with oem engine mounts and therefore plenty of movement, the bracket can break : -
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The ITG intake has good fixing with a degree of cushioning from its many silicone hose sections. The Forge Twintake doesn't need to use the bracket : -
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^ My Evoms cover with the Twintake and no nut fitted.
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^ The Evoms cover just clears the Twintake filter cannister but there is no movement so no problem.
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^ The cover has plenty of room for hoses etc to route.
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I think the Evoms cover aesthetically looks much better with a centre strip and it does appear to be designed to have one, although Evoms have not provided any fixing method. In fact, much as I like their cover, it hasn't been properly thought through by its designers. It's as if it went straight from the drawing board to production and distribution without any testing. It's not helped by the fact that Regal are the main exclusive UK distributors - I ordered one at the very beginning of December and the order didn't come through until a few days ago. Perhaps it's down to Evoms themselves but it's frustrating. Fortunately GTIjames gave me one and I cancelled my order.
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[With Special Thanks to forum members GTIjames and gillm]
January 2013 - GTI build # plaque added...............
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[Waits for Hedge's response to "How-To Improve an Evoms Engine Cover".... Toss it in the bin! :grin:]
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looks spot on robin really smartened up the engine bay
and nice work with making it easier to remove - this was one of my gripes when I had it installed on my car
pleased you got it all sorted and its looking 8)
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i dont think it was alloy robin (might be wrong ) i would keep a eye on your return hose that goes back to the header tank , it looks close and it it chaffed it could go threw and over heat !
i have something to cure that if needed tho .
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i dont think it was alloy robin (might be wrong ) i would keep a eye on your return hose that goes back to the header tank , it looks close and it it chaffed it could go threw and over heat !
....Not sure what you mean:
- When you say "alloy" are you referring to the sheet material of the cover?
- Is the "return hose back to the header tank" what I have called the Coolant hose? The one alongside the MAF cable?
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Robin,
You really really need to sort this out, it will chafe through in miles few. Perhaps use a ty-wrap to make sure the coolant hose and loom are kept well clear.
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Or line the edge of the evoms cover with a rubber bead......
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[Waits for Hedge's response to "How-To Improve an Evoms Engine Cover".... Toss it in the bin! :grin:]
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Robin,
You really really need to sort this out, it will chafe through in miles few. Perhaps use a ty-wrap to make sure the coolant hose and loom are kept well clear.
Or line the edge of the evoms cover with a rubber bead......
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I'm not disagreeing with you but what I have done is no different from what the normal unmodified Evoms cover does: The hose and MAF connecting cable ("loom"?) are fed through a circular 'O' hole and all I have done is open part of the 'O' to form a 'U'. The physical contact is the same as with every other Evoms cover and Evoms provide that hole otherwise the cover won't fit.
So, if I've understood correctly, the opening in the Evoms cover, whether 'O' or 'U' is potentially dangerous.
Either way I am very much inclined to take your advice and take steps to somehow tidily protect the hose and cable casing.
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pm me your address and i will post some stuff to protect the coolent hose .
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Robin,
You really really need to sort this out, it will chafe through in miles few. Perhaps use a ty-wrap to make sure the coolant hose and loom are kept well clear.
Or line the edge of the evoms cover with a rubber bead......
.... :happy2: OK
I'm not disagreeing with you but what I have done is no different from what the normal unmodified Evoms cover does: The hose and MAF connecting cable ("loom"?) are fed through a circular 'O' hole and all I have done is open part of the 'O' to form a 'U'. The physical contact is the same as with every other Evoms cover and Evoms provide that hole otherwise the cover won't fit.
So, if I've understood correctly, the opening in the Evoms cover, whether 'O' or 'U' is potentially dangerous.
Either way I am very much inclined to take your advice and take steps to somehow tidily protect the hose and cable casing.
What you have is a 'aluminium cover with a relatively sharp edge (not sharp as in knife terms) which will vibrate (no matter what mounts are fitted). it will vibrate against the rubber hose and loom, the cover material is harder than the rubber/plastic loom, and will cut through.
Ideally ty-wrap the hose and loom to pull them away from the cover, and provide some clearance.
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Nicely done Robin well done :congrats:
I especially like the way it looks with the CF center strip.
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Robin,
You really really need to sort this out, it will chafe through in miles few. Perhaps use a ty-wrap to make sure the coolant hose and loom are kept well clear.
Or line the edge of the evoms cover with a rubber bead......
.... :happy2: OK
I'm not disagreeing with you but what I have done is no different from what the normal unmodified Evoms cover does: The hose and MAF connecting cable ("loom"?) are fed through a circular 'O' hole and all I have done is open part of the 'O' to form a 'U'. The physical contact is the same as with every other Evoms cover and Evoms provide that hole otherwise the cover won't fit.
So, if I've understood correctly, the opening in the Evoms cover, whether 'O' or 'U' is potentially dangerous.
Either way I am very much inclined to take your advice and take steps to somehow tidily protect the hose and cable casing.
What you have is a 'aluminium cover with a relatively sharp edge (not sharp as in knife terms) which will vibrate (no matter what mounts are fitted). it will vibrate against the rubber hose and loom, the cover material is harder than the rubber/plastic loom, and will cut through.
Ideally ty-wrap the hose and loom to pull them away from the cover, and provide some clearance.
or add tanktrac / edging strip .
im guessing you know the deal fellow heli worker lol .
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What you have is a 'aluminium cover with a relatively sharp edge (not sharp as in knife terms) which will vibrate (no matter what mounts are fitted). it will vibrate against the rubber hose and loom, the cover material is harder than the rubber/plastic loom, and will cut through.
Ideally ty-wrap the hose and loom to pull them away from the cover, and provide some clearance.
....My first intention when I received the Evoms was to tie back the two 'lines' rather than open up the 'O' hole. But there isn't the flexibility or sufficient length in the oem hose to tie it back, nor is there an obvious and safe location to tie it to IIRC. So that's why I decided to cut (and smooth, but it's still potentially sharp) the 'O' to form a 'U'.
I may have to heavily wrap the 2 lines in that area - Too difficult to source a rubber beading that will stay on the cover edge. Funnily enough I did think of a rubber grommet on the hole anyway before deciding to open to a 'U'.
Any suggestions for a wrapping material?
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or add tanktrac / edging strip .
im guessing you know the deal fellow heli worker lol .
....Between you guys, you'll have me building a GTI which can fly like a helicopter! :grin:
But be warned, Dave, you won't like the cabin noise :evilgrin: :wink: :wink:
Or perhaps a tank! What's "tanktrac"?
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it is a flxi plastic strip which will go over the sharp edge . needs to be glued on but you have that already
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Nicely done Robin well done :congrats:
I especially like the way it looks with the CF center strip.
....Cheers! I think the Evoms looks very plain and utility without a centre strip and of course a CF strip does suit it very well. Plus it was so expensive I was wanting to still use it!
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http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/336
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fair play Robin thats a fine job :happy2:
For me personally the CF insert doesnt quite gel with the cover now, but thats just a personal opinion.
Otherwise I agree looks much better with a cover :happy2:
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That does look fantastic! :congrats:
The only problem being I now want one which means the list gets that little bit longer! :ashamed:
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Glad you like it, Nath :happy2:. One of the other guys here (singh?) has the Evoms fitted with an ITG, so it will work. Or.. Do a NeilM-style customisation.
Btw, although it's not that important, the oem cover is considerably heavier than the Evoms.
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Thinking more about the cable protection comments from the 'heli workers', they make a very valid point and it applies to everyone with an Evoms cover whether modified like mine or not. I'm surprised that Evoms haven't catered for the possibility.
Out of interest it would be good to hear from others who have the Evoms cover fitted.
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Lovely job Robin. :congrats: I too have an EVOMS cover fitted and your "quick release" idea certainly seems like a good one and is someting which i never considered. I personally think the EVOMS cover undoubtedly needs a centre strip, if only to make it more aesthetically pleasing (and your CF centre strip looks sweet!! :drool:). How did you attach yours in the end...with silicone or something else? I painted my cover gloss black and brought the EVOMS lettering up with a bit of wire wool before laquering which i think looks pretty good. :smiley:
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Hi Mackie!
I wanted to take the 'quick-release' solution a bit further by using a stainless steel wing-nut plus rubber washer but the nut's wings don't have enough room to clear the base of the engine bracket.
Yes, I'm convinced that Evoms have designed their cover to take the centre strip but just haven't provided a way to attach it. Because my carbon strip has bendy tabs I drilled holes for them so the strip could be removed and applied elsewhere in the future (such as my bedroom wall). I didn't want cut them off or over stress the bends.
I like what you've done for your engine bay - It follows your theme and you are also running the Evoms intake.
How do you cope with that engine bracket fixing? Bolt in from the left or right?
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Hi Mackie!
I wanted to take the 'quick-release' solution a bit further by using a stainless steel wing-nut plus rubber washer but the nut's wings don't have enough room to clear the base of the engine bracket.
Yes, I'm convinced that Evoms have designed their cover to take the centre strip but just haven't provided a way to attach it. Because my carbon strip has bendy tabs I drilled holes for them so the strip could be removed and applied elsewhere in the future (such as my bedroom wall). I didn't want cut them off or over stress the bends.
I like what you've done for your engine bay - It follows your theme and you are also running the Evoms intake.
How do you cope with that engine bracket fixing? Bolt in from the left or right?
Cheers Robin. Re. the engine bracket fixing thankfully i havnt needed to take my engine cover off other than when the car is due in for servicing (partly because i know its a pain in the a**e to do so!!) and my mechanical knowedledge is pretty limited anyway but i think it bolts in from the left (my mate OTTIS could tell you!! :laugh:):ashamed:
I had looked at an Osir CF centre strip at one time but just couldnt justify the cost. They do look awesome though and i might convince myself that i need one in my life over the next few weeks! :rolleye:
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Cheers Robin. Re. the engine bracket fixing thankfully i havnt needed to take my engine cover off other than when the car is due in for servicing (partly because i know its a pain in the a**e to do so!!) and my mechanical knowedledge is pretty limited anyway but i think it bolts in from the left (my mate OTTIS could tell you!! :laugh:):ashamed:
I had looked at an Osir CF centre strip at one time but just couldnt justify the cost. They do look awesome though and i might convince myself that i need one in my life over the next few weeks! :rolleye:
....I think I had just shelled out for an OSIR carbon bonnet when Justin at TTshop grinned wickedly at me and said he had something else I needed in my life. As I know him well enough, after first gasping in lust at the carbon centre strip, I told him: "Fukk Off!!" But then a few weeks later I asked him if he still had it and he sweetened the deal by getting me the blue&white enamelled VW badge for it.
I reckon that whichever way the Evoms cover bolts, it's more than a pain in the butt to get one's fingers in underneath to hold the bolt or nut from dropping out and disappearing in the depths below. Hence my magic glue.
I'd be interested to hear how your mate OTTIS manages it, or anyone else.
Good Luck when you need to do it! Or is there a trick I don't know about?
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Cheers Robin. I'll get OTTIS to pm you :happy2: Also, forgot to mention that the enameled badge on the centre strip look the business :drinking:
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Heli workers gillm and stokey were right! After only about 50 miles my return hose is through to the blue!
[EDIT: I've just noticed from an earlier photo that the blue was already there - It must be wear from the oem engine cover. Needs precautionary measures anyway].
A massive thankyou for the heads-up, guys :drinking:
Okay, this can be solved with some protection but I'm wondering about others having the same potential problem with their Evoms covers. The return hose isn't very flexible and can rub on the Evoms cover's aperture metal edge regardless whether an 'O' or modified to a 'U'.
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just posted the bits off to you mate . sorry for the delay i got home last night and fell asleep
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So nice RR. Torn between modifying the OEM and he Evoms. Lots of inspiration though.
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So nice RR. Torn between modifying the OEM and he Evoms. Lots of inspiration though.
....This forum is fatal for spending all your money wonderfully inspirational!
The Evoms cover costs about £90 and you can use your oem centre strip if you don't want to spend megabucks (don't ask - I've forgotten how much and it's best left forgotten) on the carbonfibre strip. But I really do think that the Evoms cover needs the minor modifications.
Customising your own oem cover such as like NeilM did, will be much cheaper.
Someone else might be bringing out an aftermarket engine cover sometime this year. I can't say more just yet.
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just posted the bits off to you mate . sorry for the delay i got home last night and fell asleep
....Thanks for that :drinking:
However, nothing has been received yet and while I was at VWR having my car serviced this week, they took it upon themselves to fix it.
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I'm not especially bothered if things look OEM or not but this solution does use VAG parts - Split tubular casing plus the ubiquitous cable-ties. That Simon fella at VWR is a star!
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Hate to say it, but will still chafe.
The idea is to remove or neutralise the moving sharp edge. The best way is to either use some gilm sourced edging strip, or cut a grommet in half, and glue it to the sharp edge, the sharp edge will then become a blunt rubber edge, which will rub on the coolant hose and not have any effect.
As it stands the sharp edge will sit in a groove and cut through the cable conduit, and onto the coolant hose below.
Grommets
[pdf]http://www.grommets.co.uk/documents/products/grommets_open_rubber150210.pdf[/pdf]
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Hate to say it, but will still chafe.
The idea is to remove or neutralise the moving sharp edge. The best way is to either use some gilm sourced edging strip, or cut a grommet in half, and glue it to the sharp edge, the sharp edge will then become a blunt rubber edge, which will rub on the coolant hose and not have any effect.
As it stands the sharp edge will sit in a groove and cut through the cable conduit, and onto the coolant hose below.
Grommets
http://www.grommets.co.uk/documents/products/grommets_open_rubber150210.pdf
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....Thanks, Dave. Then I think I'll do belt n braces and grommet as well. I still don't understand why other Evoms cover users haven't identified this potential problem.
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Alternatively I might just enlarge the 'U' in the Evoms cover so it's well clear and never touches!
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I decided to enlarge the 'U' so absolutely nothing touches rather than fiddle around with doctoring grommets. I've left VWR's cable conduit protection on as well but there's now at least 4mm clearance all around and no movement.
Job done!
[Still nothing in the post, Martin]
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odd i posted that 1st class last sat . i will send some more mate . pm me your addy again
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odd i posted that 1st class last sat . i will send some more mate . pm me your addy again
....Don't worry, mate. Problem solved now anyway. I'll let you know if it still turns up. I came home late on Saturday to find a Post Office note that I have something to collect.. Could be what you sent.
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Sorry if this seems like a necropost, but I have just got my Evoms engine cover, it looks great, much nicer than I was expecting.
Though just wondering why you cut out the front part of your Robin? Also where do you get the parts for the screw/glue fix, and also what have you done to stop the rubbing of the coolant pipe? Don't want that happening to mine.
And finally, where/how much for a plain centre strip, and also again for the carbon fibre one? :happy2:
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I'll try and answer as many of your questions as I can :happy2:
- I didn't cut out the front of mine. Is yours different? I cut the sides but only at the fixing points as described earlier in this thread.
- The stainless steel screws and nut were off-the-shelf from a local hardware store. Should be very easy to source.
- The glue is from a friend in the aircraft industry. Not readily available. An ultra strong metal to metal glue would suffice but I only needed it to repair my broken cover gifted by GTIjames.
- If you check out my earlier posts in this thread you'll see what I've done to both protect the coolant hose and improve ease of Evoms cover removal.
- Plain centre strip can be bought either second-hand or new from VW dealer.
- Real carbon strip (OSIR) can be bought from TTshop. I don't know the current price.
HTH
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A further cosmetic mod is happening to my engine cover and should be ready later this month :party:
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another great thread and very helpful mr RR!
ill be on the case with definately the cables ties and the u shape cut out.
and ill re look at the other bits once in place.
i have afew plans for the centre peice-as i have a spare one to give me some variation.... i just need to work out a way of making them interchangeable!!
thanks again for all your help past present,....and no doubt future lol!!
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee down the slope i slide :evilgrin:
matsu
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Making the centre strips interchangeable could be tricky but that's not saying it can't be done.
Basically the Evoms flat aluminium cover has to be cut/drilled to receive the 4 short 'legs' of the centre strip. On the plastic oem filter box cover it all spring slots together but here the materials are now different. If it's not a super tight fit, the centre strip will begin to rattle and so I've used rubbery black Tiger Seal quite generously. It'll be interesting to see how you solve it.
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@ matsu:
You'll probably notice this anyway, but the centre strip doesn't fit exactly central on the Evoms - It has to allow for the oil filler cap. If you look closely at mine you'll see it's off centre but my version of the Evoms has a front which places it for you, Nathan's doesn't but it shouldn't be a problem.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FEngineBayBonnet.jpg&hash=aaac011e246198271714b4472b233f5ba0e3b8d6)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMisc%2FFor_Sale%2FIMG_1538.jpg&hash=779d09532fc1ccbf59d400e7c342d193c36ee578)
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I think I'd rather adapt the plastic strip so I could centralise it a little more!
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Visually my version looks central even though it's not. If you examine the centre strip, whether OEM plastic or OSIR carbon (same shape), I think you'll agree that it's not adaptable because of the shape of its section.
When and where did you get your Evoms cover, Nath? It's a slightly different design to mine and all the others I've seen.
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i never noticed it wasnt actually central RR!
greeners- did you test fit yours..my one lol.???
ill be tempted to try it like robins and if not cut the underneath of the cenrtre panel to allow the oil cap to sit properly
i keep coming back the pic and saying ooooooh shiny me likey lol
matsu
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Bought mine from Al last year but never test fitted as I only had it back from the body shop last week and I lost my intake at the end of last year..............
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Cheers, Nath :happy2:
I know that Evoms stopped making their engine covers for a short while and so as both yours and mine bears the raised Evoms logo, showing they are genuine, that either yours (now Matsu's) or mine is the later one. I got mine from GTIjames.
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two quick things....
am tad worried now bloody thing wont fit lol.......
and no intake or change of plan we havent seen yet mrG???
off to garage in min for some goodies to be fitted :evilgrin:
matsu
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am tad worried now bloody thing wont fit lol.......
matsu
....Are you saying that it doesn't fit or that you're worried that it might not fit?
If the Evoms cover is for the 2.0T FSI engine there'll be two holes on the left which match up to and use the cam cover's T30 bolts and then a single hole with a bigger nut and bolt supplied for the righthand side (see my pics earlier in this thread).
If it's fitting the centre strip you're worried about, there'll be a way to fit it or glue it.
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Just hoping it WILL fit lol
And centre peice ill sort somehow :innocent:
Thanks RR
Matsu
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Here we go - A further improvement........
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2Foriginal_cutout.jpg&hash=cdabffd1f214e91f9335ebe290e5277fe3212330)
^ The finished job, BIALI-style! For those that don't know, BIALI stands for Bodge It And Leg It.
Or rather I should say "the finished with" OEM centre strip after Dan at BIALI Werks had enthusiastically waved around wielded his dremel and cut out the 'FSI TURBO' lettering for use elsewhere.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2Fbadge_paint1.jpg&hash=5dfb1d50a581430dba2bd56f7cb1f1c932756401)
^ The cut out badge with edges cleaned up and first coats of silver aluminium paint.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2Fcarbon_cutout2.jpg&hash=5083bc10778765ac1c6affb8da0208cd551055e9)
^ The OSIR carbon centre strip cut out to receive the silver badge in exactly the same position as on the OEM strip.
Firstly the cut carbon edges were filed smooth with special tools for carbon and then clear lacquered. It's such attention to detail by Dan that makes a job look professional. I had stuck on my OSIR carbon strip to the black aluminium Evoms engine cover very strongly indeed with lots of Tiger Seal to stop it rattling and so it was far too risky to attempt removing the carbon strip to work on separately. However, our intrepid explorer Dan forged ahead with his trusty dremel.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FDan_Dremmel.jpg&hash=a96009faeab524ff65ebd5898b60bff740b943b5)
We decided to allow a small gap around the badge and to fit it flush with the carbon surface so that the whole engine cover looked as if it was originally manufactured with the 'FSI TURBO' badge and so it wouldn't look merely stuck on. Here are some pics of the finished job:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FFSI_1.jpg&hash=6d1e76233ecbe2750e7e6f21c2d2850d1a770c2a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FFSI_4.jpg&hash=59768e70fdd74114b3237716d09873aa662853dc)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FFSI_3.jpg&hash=43a8f166fe985c1957b524d12c59a4ae7d8d077a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FFSI_2.jpg&hash=e20e98ca35d43a55235f35ca2a5f3b67a4ea2984)
I am extremely pleased with what Dan has done. It was my design idea but Dan has made the engine cover look professionally manufactured as a whole and must take the credit for that. I like it so much that if I ever sell this car, I am keeping the engine cover to display on my a wall at home as a very fond momento.
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That looks great Robin (and Dan) :congrats:
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Thanks, Nath :drinking: (I won't tell Dan :wink:)
What are you doing, or have done, for an engine cover now that you've sold yours to Matsu?
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Thanks, Nath :drinking: (I won't tell Dan :wink:)
What are you doing, or have done, for an engine cover now that you've sold yours to Matsu?
The standard engine cover is now back on with a Carbonio for a bit of eye candy! :wink:
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This pic shows the flush fit rather well:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FFSI_7.jpg&hash=215459f3db996fb2a913e80f46dfbe4eb733a015)
Would you believe I took 40 pics of this mod! But don't worry, they're not all going to get posted... Just 39 of them :grin:
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Thanks, Nath :drinking: (I won't tell Dan :wink:)
What are you doing, or have done, for an engine cover now that you've sold yours to Matsu?
The standard engine cover is now back on with a Carbonio for a bit of eye candy! :wink:
....A bit of paint can transform the somewhat dull silver-grey of the plastic OEM centre strip which looks a bit galvanised imo. Pick any colour............
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i like that alot RR!!
yep i got mrG's evoms cover-but not had time patience or motivation to fit or do anything with it yet.
found myself a bit fed up with the car this week,with so many things just not going right and so little cash to get anything done properly first time!!
so i,m gonna take a month off of thinking about it all.
but ill post stuff up as and when i gethm done.
where did you get the blue badge pleeze mate>?
matsu
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Sorry to hear that, Matsu. Sometimes spending a bit of time to stand back and gather your thoughts can produce better results - And when you've done so and are pleased with such results you then think that it was all meant to be that way.
My blue n white enamelled VW badge was a present from the TTshop when I bought the OSIR strip from them. It's self adhesive.
The original 1930's VW factory brick building at Wolfsburg, rather like Battersea Power Station in style, has a big blue n white badge and it's also used on modern architectural signage:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FVWsign.jpg&hash=30caf297bb7b4e499db23c11e000f4b817fe6b2a)
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Looks ace Robin,
Some really nice and unique personal touches going into your car, and it's good to see that you still have the enthusiasm (and balls) to be chopping and modding things to make them unique.
Had you thought about doing the lettering in a different colour, or just happy to have it as is?
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Yes I did think about doing the lettering in a different colour but preferred it to look like it was cast/formed out of one piece of 'metal'. Also it looks more OEM that way. The three-dimensional shapes of the lettering is really good for different lighting.
Yes, I may be old but my balls still work! :laugh: :happy2:
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Genius idea robin :happy2: love little touches like this, makes your car stand out.
Yes, I may be old but my balls still work! :laugh: :happy2:
That's nice to know! :signLOL:
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Cheers, Luke :drinking:
Excuse for another pic:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FFSI_5.jpg&hash=6d7697c9904e04ccdddc3826d85515e0995ee298)
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2FFSI_8.jpg&hash=d6d1212842d9d8542a1bba90dd70702f90f27bb2)
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Some pics of its latest mod - A build plaque added................
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2Ffile-17.jpg&hash=36bf8d53e08b0587b7f7e5e07f7fe1476ec78d47)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2Ffile-16.jpg&hash=10b84fdc41b79cbc0721421b1c91cf6e48e35672)
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Is that one of the genuine ED30 plaques?
Like the cover more with just the first mod done. The added plaque makes it look a bit cluttered.
Would prefer the new one on the battery cover
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Is that one of the genuine ED30 plaques?
Like the cover more with just the first mod done. The added plaque makes it look a bit cluttered.
Would prefer the new one on the battery cover
No... its a GTI copy as per the forum Group Buy.
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Is that one of the genuine ED30 plaques?
Like the cover more with just the first mod done. The added plaque makes it look a bit cluttered.
Would prefer the new one on the battery cover
....My car is a genuine Mk5 GTI so I wouldn't badge it with a Ed30 plaque.
ETTO of course but the engine bay would look more cluttered if various badges were spread all over the place. I think it looks far tidier where I have placed it. Also the FSI TURBO / VW / GTI Plaque badges are all subject related and so sit together more naturally. I did actually try placing the plaque in various positions and where it now is on the carbon strip immediately looked right - It was a no-brainer as far as my engine bay is concerned.
The battery cover is absolutely the last place I would put a build plaque - Sticking it on a plastic cover somewhat devalues it in my opinion.