MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Key combos
Post by: stealthwolf on January 04, 2009, 04:12:11 pm
Somehow, probably with pressing all the keys on the fob when bored, I've managed to bugger a few things up. Only happened in the last month.

1. Windows no longer wind up and down once the car's turned off. Really annoying because it used to be so useful.

2. Can't open the boot without using the boot button, even when I'm in the car and all the doors are open (double-press door open button on door).

Any ideas on how to correct it all?
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: bacillus on January 04, 2009, 04:44:10 pm

Any ideas on how to correct it all?
Is the behaviour the same when you use your spare key fob?
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: billyboy on January 04, 2009, 07:11:31 pm
i remember a few years ago on my old bora, i had to teach/learn the key with car, and it went along the lines of locking the car with the key (dvr door) keeping it in the lock,  pressing one or both buttons, then unlock with key, and it was set.
something like that
billy
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: Phil Mcavity on January 04, 2009, 07:50:23 pm
You have midline steath, im sure if you have Vag-com, you can adjust the options/settings from that, but if not, its a trip to the dealer to reset the settings im afraid. :happy2:
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: stealthwolf on January 04, 2009, 08:10:45 pm
I'm waiting on the group buy for the VAGCOM. Happy to wait until then, just an arse.
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: gazbutS3 on January 04, 2009, 08:13:19 pm
I'm sure there is a procedure for re-synchronising the central locking, something like what Billy was saying, you lock the car with the key and hold it in the locked position for so many seconds or something like that , I'm sure there is a method. Maybe Vrstu or somebody else equally as switched on can help :smiley:
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: ub7rm on January 06, 2009, 11:39:51 am
Id be interested in hearing how this is resolved, since I've picked up my car the remote open/close windows doesn't work and the boot opening button doesn't seem to work at all.  Not really bothered but it would be nice to have these features...
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: 08micsta on January 06, 2009, 11:50:19 am
Hi there guys

The cars have not been in for a service recently have they?

We had a similar issue. The car went in to have the CCM computer's software updated. The reason it did it was because (You prob wont belive me) but the software for the CCM computer is American. But the computer itself is German. So they conflict with each other. It can happen any time.

CCM- CEntral convenience module. It controls power steering, central locking, windows etc.

Solution:

1. Take her in to be reset and if a reset does not help they may change the controllers software.
2. The car may have been in for a service recently and had the software upgrade. By having the software upgrade both boot opening and operation of windows via the key fob are disabled. Simply access the options via the highline computer and set them as you want them.
3. The coding may be out. Check the manual. There is a way to recode the key by putting it into the drivers door and turning it whilst pushing a button or something. I cant fully remember how.
4. If you dont have the highline... Pop into VW and they can change it via VAG COM. OR ask a forum member to help  :signLOL:

Mike
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: ub7rm on January 06, 2009, 02:55:16 pm
Midline  :sad:

But mine most likely had the updates before I took ownership 6 months ago (2005 model).  Usefull information, I'll see how much VW want to rob me for this and then most likely tell them to naff off.

Cheers though.
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: stealthwolf on January 06, 2009, 09:27:20 pm
Midline too. But funnily enough, the car boot now opens normally.

Still can't get the windows to open without the keys in the ignition (the hold-down-open-button trick still works though).
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: 08micsta on January 07, 2009, 10:06:52 am
Hello

Midline  :sad:

But mine most likely had the updates before I took ownership 6 months ago (2005 model).  Usefull information, I'll see how much VW want to rob me for this and then most likely tell them to naff off.

Cheers though.

Technically VW cant rob you. Your vehcile has these options and you have paid for these options. If they try charge tell them to get lost. All they do is plug her in and click a few buttons and its done. Its their responsibility.

I dont want to speak for him but drop VRSTU a PM. He is very good with VAGCOM and maybe you and him can sort something out.

Midline too. But funnily enough, the car boot now opens normally.

Still can't get the windows to open without the keys in the ignition (the hold-down-open-button trick still works though).

Have you tried recoding the key? I personally would not leave this. The car is doing its own thing. I dont think you want to wake up to a car full of ice cos a window opened?  :sad:

Mike
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: ub7rm on January 07, 2009, 11:54:30 am
Hello

Midline  :sad:

But mine most likely had the updates before I took ownership 6 months ago (2005 model).  Usefull information, I'll see how much VW want to rob me for this and then most likely tell them to naff off.

Cheers though.

Technically VW cant rob you. Your vehcile has these options and you have paid for these options. If they try charge tell them to get lost. All they do is plug her in and click a few buttons and its done. Its their responsibility.

I dont want to speak for him but drop VRSTU a PM. He is very good with VAGCOM and maybe you and him can sort something out.


I'm based up in Aberdeen which puts me at a great distance (I suspect!) from most other members on here and golfgti.  I like your optimism with regards to the dealers but my exerience of them in the past is that they will want an hours labour just to 'investigate' what they will regard as a fault.  I might phone them up for a laugh but like I say I'm not really too bothered.  At the weekend I might have a go at recoding the key according to the manual and see if that makes any difference.
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: 08micsta on January 07, 2009, 12:04:21 pm
Im anything but positive about dealers.

But this is the running of your car and it honestly only takes a few minutes. So they would be stupid to charge.

Mike
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: stealthwolf on January 07, 2009, 12:29:05 pm
Have you tried recoding the key? I personally would not leave this. The car is doing its own thing. I dont think you want to wake up to a car full of ice cos a window opened?  :sad:

This has been going on for two weeks. Not once in that time did the windows ever roll down randomly. Will check it again tonight with the other key.,
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: 08micsta on January 07, 2009, 12:31:36 pm
I didnt say it had. I was hgowever saying that anything is possible. Rather just be safe  :innocent:
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: ub7rm on January 11, 2009, 06:08:38 pm
Id be interested in hearing how this is resolved, since I've picked up my car the remote open/close windows doesn't work and the boot opening button doesn't seem to work at all.  Not really bothered but it would be nice to have these features...


Well after reading the handbook today to see how to synch the remote and the car (its just unlock with the blade then start the car within 15 seconds - thats it) I discovered the problem with the boot unlocking.....I was doing it wrong!  :ashamed: Apparantly you have to hold the boot button for 2 seconds before the boot unlocks.  Previously I was just bliping the button!  Still have to sort the windows.
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: stealthwolf on January 11, 2009, 10:43:05 pm
Do you hold down the button to open your window? You have to press it for aaaaaaaaages before the windows go down.
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: 08micsta on January 12, 2009, 05:17:11 am
Lol. You have to hold the unlock button for about four seconds. Then they go down. Mike
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: ub7rm on January 12, 2009, 08:12:12 am
 :ashamed:

I do know about holding it down for the windows, I have held it down for quite a while and nothing happened but I am impatient so my 'quite a while' maybe isn't long enough.  I'll investigate this later.
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: rdfcpete on June 14, 2009, 09:40:59 pm
Somehow, probably with pressing all the keys on the fob when bored, I've managed to bugger a few things up. Only happened in the last month.

1. Windows no longer wind up and down once the car's turned off. Really annoying because it used to be so useful.

2. Can't open the boot without using the boot button, even when I'm in the car and all the doors are open (double-press door open button on door).

Any ideas on how to correct it all?

Stealthwolf is right on this isn't he, as in when parked, there's no other button in the car for opening the boot and you must use the key fob button, even if it's in the ignition?

Ta,
Pete.
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: stealthwolf on June 14, 2009, 09:45:55 pm
Lol this was from ages ago.

Anyway, what I've found is that if I'm driving, doors locked, then I park and open the door locks (double pressing the door open button on the car door), the boot won't open until the driver's door has been opened (can be closed straight away). Haven't tested it for other doors (have 5dr).

Guess maybe it's some kind of security feature?
Does it happen to anyone else?
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: Rich on June 14, 2009, 10:04:29 pm
Can you program the car yourself to make the windows go up soon as you lock the car... ?


i know about holding the lock/unlock button down for a few seconds does it... but it would be nice for them to go up on their own  :smiley:



Anyone know ?
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: rdfcpete on June 15, 2009, 09:13:00 pm
Lol this was from ages ago.

Anyway, what I've found is that if I'm driving, doors locked, then I park and open the door locks (double pressing the door open button on the car door), the boot won't open until the driver's door has been opened (can be closed straight away). Haven't tested it for other doors (have 5dr).

Guess maybe it's some kind of security feature?
Does it happen to anyone else?

Indeed, sorry to being back from the dead. Didn't think it warranted a new thread  :laugh:

That's cool, cheers for the tip. Mine's three door anyhow.
I just found it a little mystifying as to why there wasn't an open boot button in the car itself, but you can press and hold the boot button even if it's in the ignition... (just about).
Title: Re: Key combos
Post by: NB07 on June 15, 2009, 09:37:32 pm
i normally hit the unlock button on the key fob twice and then open my boot or press the unlock button inside the car and that unlocks mine no problem (3 door)  :happy2:

but yeah ive had issues with the middle button tbh i thought it didnt work  :signIWS: will try the 4 second thing but its easier to just press top button twice quickly i reckon