MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Tfsi_Mike on May 18, 2010, 08:14:04 pm
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Emptied the BSH Catch can. On my car (Leon) was an arse to access & I'll be looking at the Forge for fitment and
ease of emptying soon.
Here's what I got out... Started very watery and got gradually thicker and more beige.
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Here's what its doing in the connector, not nice :sick:
I was quite alarmed at the colour and consistency of what I got out, is this normal???
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As for the wheels it was a wash and wax to keep the brake dust at bay...
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Also a bit of bay candy (Cheers Robin!) chucked the unsightly blue washer filler cap for a black alloy item :)
(I moved the BSH hose to run under the DV hose after btw ;) )
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Well there's 60 seconds of your life you'll never get back :P Thanks for looking :wink:
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what sort of oil you using in it mate ?
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what sort of oil you using in it mate ?
Usually Castrol Edge 5/30 but this time I forgot to supply my own / request it at the last service with AwesomeGti (about 5k miles ago)
Does it look wrong? :confused:
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changed my pcv recently, and had very little signs or major oil flow or signs of it inside the old blown pcv. Just Carbon diposits.
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i ve got a mate who works for castrol , he told me only to use edge 5/30 for vw /audi fsi engines and the sh*t build up should be reduced to almost none , ive used it in my last 3 cars but never fitted a catch can to see if the oil works :happy2:
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Im one for getting paranoid about these things. :confused: does it make a difference which way round I have the Hoses on the PCV fix???
Will use Castrol Edge again soon, I try to change it at 5k miles but can end up being every 10k if im honest :ashamed:
This oil though has only been in about 5k
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last time i checked that gym car park was there for the use of people working out, not people workingout that brake dust away from their wheels. :P
that gunk is exactly like mine was. i rinsed the catch can and pipe work throigh every couple months
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last time i checked that gym car park was there for the use of people working out, not people workingout that brake dust away from their wheels. :P
that gunk is exactly like mine was. i rinsed the catch can and pipe work throigh every couple months
I was round the corner at our U & P workshop smart arse :P
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last time i checked that gym car park was there for the use of people working out, not people workingout that brake dust away from their wheels. :P
that gunk is exactly like mine was. i rinsed the catch can and pipe work throigh every couple months
I was round the corner at our U & P workshop smart arse :P
just me who works for a living then is it :P.
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Hi Mike!
Yep, that kind and mix of gunk is what most of us are collecting in our catch tanks, so it's normal. I'm personally undecided about whether a specific oil results in no gunk etc - If that was the case, how come VW haven't made a big point about it?
Glad to hear you recieved and like your Jcap :happy2:. [got your PM]
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changed my pcv recently, and had very little signs or major oil flow or signs of it inside the old blown pcv. Just Carbon diposits.
....But without a catch tank I don't think you'd see any gunk because it will have continued on through. I don't know for certain though.
Having a catch tank system is certainly a good insurance.
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Robin,the pcv valve had no sings of oil flow via it,thats why I don't understand why such a large volume of oil has been presurised that much to such a volume in that catch can.in mine was just carbon diposits and no sign of any conjealed oil clogging up the engine breather or flowing via it.perhaps with a higher stage tune, causes more internal combustion pressure and results in engine oil being forced more around into the engines breather/into induction curcuit??
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My PCV didnt have this beige coloured residue in it either :confused:
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My Catch Can often produces the same spunk out of it
I think its due to condensation build up in the gunk that is collected (a bit like you get in winter if your only doing short journeys). Don't forget your old PCV was connected direct to the Cylinder Head Cover so the oil etc going through there is hot all the time and it maintains the heat from the engine block. The catch can is located further away from the engine normally so it doesn't get as hot so the condensation forms.
Thats the way i explain it to myself anyway :signLOL:
I don't think its anything for you to worry about
Carl
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There are so many cars running aftermarket catch tank systems around the world that, although they are invariably performance modified/tuned, surely the option and alleged benefits can't be ignored.
As I have included in my forthcoming book review of Forge's solution [am just waiting for an improved tank and my photo of it installed] john_o writes:
"The key thing to remember is that the TFSI engine doesn't have a catch can (but everything else is relevant), and oil fumes / water vapour and related gumph are ported back into the engine to try and achieve good emissions. On most cars this is not a problem as fuel washes constantly keeping everything clean. The bad news is that TFSI is direct fuel injection (injectors spray directly into the combustion chamber), so the only thing passing the intake valves is air (and the oil and water vapour gunk), this is really bad news."
It seems that in the long term our FSI engines have a need and especially if tuned.
This raises the question of how much do VW care in the long term when they are under pressure to meet stringent emission rules etc. It's all in my review to come.
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That build up of creamy gunk around the exit port of the catch can is completely normal. It is caused by condensation in the system when the car is cold because of either the weather or short journeys. When you switch the engine off after a journey if warm enough the condensation will get burnt off. However if cold it mixes with the rest of the PCV gasses and forms the gunk which you have.
I experienced exactly the same during the winter months but now that it is warmer it has disappeared :happy2:
Oh and the wheels look great!
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those pics are scarysh*t :scared:
was trying to convince myself i didnt need to spend more money on the car, esp tuning wise but i can see this and a better intake on a newly started(today) list already.. dammit! :innocent:
matsu
oh and OP..... stunning motorbuddy :congrats:
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Looking at your engine bay pic I would recommend you swap the PCV tubes round so that the PCV inlet tube for the catch can goes into the bottom port of the can and the PCV outlet tube goes into the top.
BSH recommend this as it stops the PCV system from freezing up when it gets really cold.