MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: TimS996 on April 20, 2011, 06:13:47 pm
VW never cease to amaze me by how cheap they can be.

Thought I had a fault on the car when I emptied the windscreen washer bottle and didn't get a warning light at all. Booked it in to the dealers to have it fixed and was amazed when they checked the chassis number and told me it didn't come with it! :confused:

Has anyone else not got this and and is it retrofilttable?
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: StephenED30 on April 20, 2011, 06:30:59 pm
You need to get in touch with Eddie-NL, he was making up looms for this.  :happy2:
 
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23583.0.html
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: vRStu on April 20, 2011, 06:37:44 pm
Only certain cars have it.  Normally Winter pack or Xenons IIRC.
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: bodger00 on April 20, 2011, 06:58:31 pm
Once you have the loom you will need a switch (sensor) the grommit and either the larger bottle with the hole in or you can drill a hole in your existing bottle. I would recommend buying the larger one.
Part no's are:
1K0 955 453 s - Bottle
7M0 919 376 - switch (sensor)
7MO 919 382 - washer (grommit)

Like this:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fae235%2Fbodger00%2FIMAG0192.jpg&hash=9e3a90af46b26eca431e468ca0bb486f799307c0)

and the larger bottle (now black)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fae235%2Fbodger00%2FIMAG0193.jpg&hash=9628e5d0b11dfd86def285877ed43d388e3efaec)

Remember all this will need wiring in and coding. :happy2:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: stealthwolf on April 20, 2011, 07:19:55 pm
I emptied the windscreen washer bottle and didn't get a warning light
Do you not check the car on a weekly basis? Oil/coolant/washer levels and tyre pressures should be checked weekly.
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: Gene Hunt on April 20, 2011, 07:24:43 pm
As above do you really need yet another warning light to tell you to do something?.Just top mine up as part of the regular checks. :smiley:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: Eddie-NL on April 20, 2011, 08:11:00 pm
my car had the larger bottle as standard and it didn't have headlight washers. Although it does have them now :signLOL:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: TimS996 on April 20, 2011, 08:21:03 pm
As above do you really need yet another warning light to tell you to do something?.Just top mine up as part of the regular checks. :smiley:

A little harsh perhaps? Especially as the bottle is not visible, unlike previous models. And no, I don't spend time sticking my head under the bonnet. I expect to have a warning light to tell me the level in a bottle I cannot see is getting low. My 13 year old GTi had it as standard
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: TimS996 on April 20, 2011, 08:26:18 pm
Bodger,
Have you fitted one of these kits? I reckon I could put the wiring in and the parts but does it then need coding into the ECU in some way?
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: stealthwolf on April 20, 2011, 08:26:42 pm
You remind me of my sister. She expects her car to tell her everything from whether the washer fluid level is low to whether the tyre pressures are low. You'll be telling me you expect the GTI to come with an oil level sensor next!  :grin:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: Eddie-NL on April 20, 2011, 08:36:44 pm
Bodger,
Have you fitted one of these kits? I reckon I could put the wiring in and the parts but does it then need coding into the ECU in some way?

I have fitted it and you don't need a new washer bottle and if you intend to make your own loom the plug for the sensor.
It is a 2 wire job.
here is a link to a how to which i did on a different forum
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/335574/2265770.aspx#2265770
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: TimS996 on April 20, 2011, 09:47:12 pm
so there is no light in the instrument cluster or wire running to it then??
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: Gene Hunt on April 20, 2011, 11:35:19 pm
As above do you really need yet another warning light to tell you to do something?.Just top mine up as part of the regular checks. :smiley:

A little harsh perhaps? Especially as the bottle is not visible, unlike previous models. And no, I don't spend time sticking my head under the bonnet. I expect to have a warning light to tell me the level in a bottle I cannot see is getting low. My 13 year old GTi had it as standard
..........no offence intended Tim, i just top mine up regular with the normal under bonnet checks.  :smiley:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: ub7rm on April 21, 2011, 11:33:47 am
I think its a fair point, can you live without it? - Yes of course you can but I was also disappointed coming from my mk4 GTI which had it as standard to the 'better' mk5 that VW had been cheap enough to remove a system that probably costs less than £10 to install. 
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: bodger00 on April 21, 2011, 06:21:40 pm
Bodger,
Have you fitted one of these kits? I reckon I could put the wiring in and the parts but does it then need coding into the ECU in some way?

Tim I think EddieNL has answered your question but yes it does need coding. Eddie's guide is very good. :happy2:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: E30Dom on July 27, 2011, 10:05:00 am
Thank god for the search function, was just about to get onto VW for a warranty claim! haha

Just expected my Edition 30 to have it after my R32 had it, but that did have winter pack and xenons, my Ed is a lightweight version lol :laugh:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: MPS on July 27, 2011, 03:03:25 pm
I think its a fair point, can you live without it? - Yes of course you can but I was also disappointed coming from my mk4 GTI which had it as standard to the 'better' mk5 that VW had been cheap enough to remove a system that probably costs less than £10 to install. 

Yet another example of VW's tight fistedness, along with the door reflectors instead of lights like on the mk4!  :innocent:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: ub7rm on July 27, 2011, 03:10:52 pm
I think its a fair point, can you live without it? - Yes of course you can but I was also disappointed coming from my mk4 GTI which had it as standard to the 'better' mk5 that VW had been cheap enough to remove a system that probably costs less than £10 to install. 

Yet another example of VW's tight fistedness, along with the door reflectors instead of lights like on the mk4!  :innocent:

And the cords for the parcel shelf that retracted into a spring loaded doofer so your balls don't thump on the rear hatch ...

Mk4 was much better built than the mk5 no doubt about it.  Unfortunately it didn't handle so good and the GTI's were seriously underpowered.   Can't have it all I suppose.
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: MPS on July 27, 2011, 03:46:27 pm
I think its a fair point, can you live without it? - Yes of course you can but I was also disappointed coming from my mk4 GTI which had it as standard to the 'better' mk5 that VW had been cheap enough to remove a system that probably costs less than £10 to install. 

Yet another example of VW's tight fistedness, along with the door reflectors instead of lights like on the mk4!  :innocent:

And the cords for the parcel shelf that retracted into a spring loaded doofer so your balls don't thump on the rear hatch ...

Mk4 was much better built than the mk5 no doubt about it.  Unfortunately it didn't handle so good and the GTI's were seriously underpowered.   Can't have it all I suppose.

This is beginning to sound like a carry on film  :grin:
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: HughOR on October 24, 2015, 03:53:27 pm
I know this is an old thread but can anyone show me which slot to use in the connector behind the cluster?

Also, is it really necessary to remove steering wheel or is this just for easier access?

Thanks!
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: Washout on October 25, 2015, 11:07:40 am
Dont qoute me on this but i dont think you have to remove the steering wheel. You can remove the cluster with it in situ. Its just a bit fiddly trying to get it back in getting it out is easy. The connector should be numbered . If im wrong im sure someone will be along to correct me  :signLOL:.
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: HughOR on October 25, 2015, 04:15:39 pm
I pulled the cluster out (surprised how easy it was tbh) for a look, it's not numbered!
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: NDGTI on October 25, 2015, 04:28:47 pm
Haha...... some people just cannot help themselves
If you check your level weekly/ fortnightly there's no need for yet another warning light
Is it really that important, really !! Haha
Title: Re: No windscreen washer alert?
Post by: SI-R32 on October 25, 2015, 07:52:55 pm
I'm for the warning lights that's why I want a modern car.

My mates 3 series has no dip stick and relies on a warning for oil,  so bring on all this modern tech rather than living in the 60's