MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: garrardrj on May 12, 2011, 10:25:29 am
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YES ANOTHER RNS510 QUESTION FROM ME :grin:
Whats the difference between the three versions? I know the latest one has a LED screen. I have also seen a version D , is there such a thing?
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Version A is to be avoided - it is an old system now and cant be upgraded as easily as the B and C units
B was a later revision with a different mainboard and better upgrade functionality
C was again a later revision, with later C versions having an LED screen - apart from the screen, the internals are the same as a B
D is coming later this year and has a faster processor, better graphics and a larger HDD
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and they all do the same things?
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Yes
Get a B or a C - a C if you can afford it as the screen is much better.
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With regards to the D version coming soon, i wish they would include a sub pre out and have bluetooth built in. :mad:
But that would never happen as the bluetooth would clash with the add on you can buy :sad1:
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It would be nice wouldnt it! But yes, VW have a marketing plan and that definately wouldnt fall into it
Granted though its not difficult to add a line to pre adapter piggy backed onto the rear speaker wiring. Mine looks OEM now ive finished with it and wrapped it all in.
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When i had an RNS510 installed i too had the sub piggy backed onto the rear speaker wiring. However unless the ICE speaclist installed it wrong i found that on some songs from sd card and cd sounded bassy when they should be, but the same songs from my ipod and radio sounded wrong i.e with hardly any bass.
Since changing to a Pioneer AVIC-F9210BT with a sub pre-out every song through any media sounds perfect. The tweeter, mid and woofer and sub are all doing their jobs correctly.
Sorry for taking off topic :sad1:
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Cant say I get that issue with mine, but I know for a fact its installed correctly :happy2:
F9210 is a good HU, and having a dedicated pre out is always better, but hey whatever works with what you have.
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Some C models are different too, ie newer ones have the star button.
I can't believe bluetooth is not built-in to this unit, instead I have to pay £200+ extra, sod that!
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Ill let you into a little secret VW already do an RNS with built in bluetooth... :happy2: its called the RNS850 and comes in the new Touaregs you'll be able to look at it on youtube or similar.
The new RNS510 is going to be no more different than what we have apart from the software and hardware i.e it will look the same but the hard drive will be 40GB and other than that the software will be updated.
Darren
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RNS850 ftw :laugh:
The D version has a much smoother UI though which is a big step up on the lag that the B and C has
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With the RNS's are the button colours still red or are they different or does that depend on what version you have??
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All VW RNS510s illuminate the same with the Red
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Lovely, thanks alex.. a C has gone on the shopping list unless D's appear around the time funds become available :happy2:
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Just seen pics of the 850. Doesn't look as good but love the 3D display!
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320697907530&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Bought one at last....what do you think?
Its a 2010 version so ad says.........will it be led or lcd screen?
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Like it says
Genuine Volkswagen navigation device
RNS 510 with LCD screen
Itll have a star button top right instead of a speaker with an 'i' if its LED
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thought it might have been lcd...thanks
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Hi ,
Just thought I would share my latest tale of woe over the LED / LCD differences .....
I have just bought a Version C and was told it was LED. Upon inspection it didnt have the star button but instead the loudspeaker and i button .
I have Pm'd the seller as I wanted the LED Version and was told it was LED in a PM but in fact its an LCD.
Maybe he didnt know and thought all C's were LED , Ok if thats the case its a genuine mistake but he is not answering my Pm's now
and has been online all last night so is obviosuly ignoring me in the hope I get bored and go away ?
I paid over £500 for it plus delivery , and have asked for a refund . Whats a version C with LCD actually worth, not that I want it now out of principal.
Is it unfair to name the person on the forums if they refuse to sort this out in the correct manner .
I was due to have this fitted at the weekend by someone and have now had to cancel that appointment and feel awkward messing them about but unfortunately
its out of hands until the seller mans up and gets in contact.
Sorry to post this on the forums but want to check what the protocal is when something like this happens.
Many thanks in advance for usefull advice.
Mark
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A C LCD is probably worth the same (possibly a tad more) than a B LCD but certainly not as much a C LED as you are paying the extra to get an LED screen and a star button - thats the only differences.
Perhaps £450ish for an LCD variant
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If you were told it was an LED and its an LCD then surely you are entitled to a refund , I would press the seller further. If they fail to refund then i would name and shame. Especially if it is a business , an individual is different but not much. I bought a C version and when i found out it was lcd i paid the extra to get a LED star button version , this was via e bay and a top rated seller
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Where does a button with a wee microphone on it come in!?
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All sorted now , It was a genuine mistake - I thought it must be as I said I've always had great service in the past.
It seems there are a lot of people out there assuming all Version C 's are LED as the seller was told it was an LED and the fitters also thought it
was an LED unit.
I'm now thinking is there really much difference in the quality of the display between an LED and LCD as so many people dont know even when its right
in front of them ?
:confused:
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If you were told it was an LED and its an LCD then surely you are entitled to a refund , I would press the seller further. If they fail to refund then i would name and shame. Especially if it is a business , an individual is different but not much. I bought a C version and when i found out it was lcd i paid the extra to get a LED star button version , this was via e bay and a top rated seller
Well got the unit today via my ebay top rated seller.........The right hand button is damaged and has not occurred in transit as it was very well packaged. The manufacture date on the side of it says November 2009 . Now i don't think the latest edition (star button was made that long ago) Also the rear of the unit does not fit together properly, to say i am pi**ed off is and understatement. The Front of the unit looks brand new. The unit has been apart and i have mailed the seller. Can the older version of the RNS510 be upgraded tio become an LED version or have i been done?
The serial number is VWZ6Z7J5310063
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Sounds like its a poor recon if the back doesnt fit together and the front is brand new mate.
Try talking to the seller, otherwise file an ebay dispute for item not as described
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Having looked at the back of the unit it does not fit together well and looks like it never should. Can the buttons be replaced? £600 i paid for it.
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That was alot for a version C jesus!!
I think you should send it straight back. If you know what your doing, parts in them can be replaced
Return it, and buy another one mate. I almost bought one for 475, and eventually found an almost new C for 425!
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If you were told it was an LED and its an LCD then surely you are entitled to a refund , I would press the seller further. If they fail to refund then i would name and shame. Especially if it is a business , an individual is different but not much. I bought a C version and when i found out it was lcd i paid the extra to get a LED star button version , this was via e bay and a top rated seller
Well got the unit today via my ebay top rated seller.........The right hand button is damaged and has not occurred in transit as it was very well packaged. The manufacture date on the side of it says November 2009 . Now i don't think the latest edition (star button was made that long ago) Also the rear of the unit does not fit together properly, to say i am pi**ed off is and understatement. The Front of the unit looks brand new. The unit has been apart and i have mailed the seller. Can the older version of the RNS510 be upgraded tio become an LED version or have i been done?
The serial number is VWZ6Z7J5310063
Send it back!
You payed way too much esp if a re-con unit and if the security pin code has been gained by entry into the unit then when you come to update the f/w later on you could possibly brick it...
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As said earlier
You paid top dollar for the top item, don't settle for less.
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Oh and Mark don't worry about cancelling mate it's not your fault :happy2:
I'm just gutted I'v got to do some decorating instead :signLOL:
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To say i am annoyed is the understatement of the year...........I have mailed the seller stating i will accept another from them but not one in such poor order
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On a brighter note Lee , My reverse camera kit , VW bluetooth kit and Mdi will be here , so dont worry
I'll keep you busy when your next free.
:signLOL:
and that's just for starters :grin:
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To say i am annoyed is the understatement of the year...........I have mailed the seller stating i will accept another from them but not one in such poor order
I'm assuming that was from Lithuania ect?? It looks like the security seal is broken........I wouldn't touch it or another from him with a barge pole!
Esp for £600!!
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Interesting they went over the top of the SW label with 2680, plus its covered in foreign writing on stickers
Avoid like the plague
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Shipped from the UK by a top rated seller with excellent feedback 100%. But checking that they have only been registered since feb 2010 and also that was registered in lithuania............over 400 sales of this stuff though !
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You pay your money and take your chance.....
But I know what I would do.
Theres a guy over on r32oc that does 'C' LED RNS's for £570.........still too much IMO but a much better bet than this clown??
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That's the dude I have speaking to Lee , 3 month warranty with them .
I have just emailed him asking if he can do anything on the price , I wonder if we both ( OP ) order from him by the end of the week he could do something ?
:happy2:
cheers Mark
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The seller of this item gives 12months warranty....or so he says ! We'll see what he has to say about it
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The seller of this item gives 12months warranty....or so he says ! We'll see what he has to say about it
On something already knackered! :signLOL:
I think Nick on R32OC is in Essex so maybe a pick up to save on postage too :happy2:
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@garradrj would you mind PM ing me with the name of the eBay seller please?
I may buy soon and want to avoid.
Good luck hope you get it sorted.
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I think you should post it on here just, let's people know who to avoid.
I got 1 from bmwandnaviparts last week based on numerous good reports.
There was a slight Mark on it but he refunded me £30.
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Well the seller has offered to collect the damaged/naff one and replace it with another. I have asked for something quite specific , that the case has not been opened or seals broken and made late 2010. We will see what is delivered , i believe at this stage that the seller never actually sees the items they are selling and are shipped from elsewhere. They do not appear to have any control on what i received and are reliant on others to be trustworthy and honest.
Watch this space
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That's the dude I have speaking to Lee , 3 month warranty with them .
I have just emailed him asking if he can do anything on the price , I wonder if we both ( OP ) order from him by the end of the week he could do something ?
:happy2:
cheers Mark
mark, ill jump on board with that?!! Does anyone have this guys details, i would be happy to pay around £500 i reckon but not much more....
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Hi Guys, I'm new to VW (well not completely as had an MK2 GTi and a MK4 R32 but a long time ago), can anyone point me at a summery of what versions of the RNS510 work with which model years or when the CAN gateway switchovers occurred? Thanks.
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The switchover time was around March 07 where second release K gateways came out
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Anyone know what date they started to manufacture the star button version of the RNS510C ?
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That's the dude I have speaking to Lee , 3 month warranty with them .
I have just emailed him asking if he can do anything on the price , I wonder if we both ( OP ) order from him by the end of the week he could do something ?
:happy2:
cheers Mark
mark, ill jump on board with that?!! Does anyone have this guys details, i would be happy to pay around £500 i reckon but not much more....
Likewise, I guess the more of us there are the better chance of him doing a deal?
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That's the dude I have speaking to Lee , 3 month warranty with them .
I have just emailed him asking if he can do anything on the price , I wonder if we both ( OP ) order from him by the end of the week he could do something ?
:happy2:
cheers Mark
mark, ill jump on board with that?!! Does anyone have this guys details, i would be happy to pay around £500 i reckon but not much more....
Likewise, I guess the more of us there are the better chance of him doing a deal?
yesss!! lets all get invovled?!! guys im off on holiday for a week, but will be back next weekend, dont leave me out if there is movement on this! cheers
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All
Anyone looking for an RNS 510, whether the C LED or earlier versions, do not hesitate to contact Nick, from the R32OC Forum. I know his name has come up on this thread previously, but I really cannot recommend him enough, whether it be to supply or supply and fit. Thread link follows:-
http://www.r32oc.com/sale/26878-rns-510-ver-c-latest-led-screen-2010-edition.html (http://www.r32oc.com/sale/26878-rns-510-ver-c-latest-led-screen-2010-edition.html)
I hope this helps forum members out.
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How do you work out if its an A / B / C? Is it in the serial code? Cheers
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Its the last letter of the part number
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Well , today got the repplacement . Mint condition , in the car dvd,cd radio, sat nav working. Now got to wait and see if i get battery drain ! The experience i don't want to go through again but the seller has been good and no aggro. Trouble is his advert stated product location in London and it wasn't !
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happy days
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Can't get the sd card to be recognised or read on the unit. any ideas?
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How big is the card?
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tried a 256mb and a 1gb ! It seems to recognise it when you push it into the slot but then nothing happens and i then cannot see the sd card as a option on the top of the screen next to the cd heading.
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Check they are FAT32 formatted
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Yes the Cards are FAT32........when i put the card in it says......."Loading data........Please wait" ...then nothing happens
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How have you structured the folders and what file format are you using?
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This is how they appear on the card...........don't really know what you mean by "how are my folders structured" or what file format i am using,,,, do you means what type of musics files? they are mpeg 4 audio files
By the way thanks for your help so far :happy2:
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The structure is fine
It looks like they are out of iTunes and therefore m4a format and not mp3. The RNS does not support anything but mp3 and wav
You'll have to convert them buddy
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I had problems with SD cards when I had music in FLAC format on it, re-ripped to MP3 and all was fine. Is MPEG4 supported?
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Alex..........thanks for your help. How do you convert them then............or how do i get alot of music onto the hard drive of the RNS ?
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Is MPEG4 supported?
No.
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Alex..........thanks for your help. How do you convert them then............or how do i get alot of music onto the hard drive of the RNS ?
There's various free apps to do it. Google it bud
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How or when will i know whether i have battery drain or not. No noticable difference overnight , can any checks with a multi meter help me.....theres a canbus on the for sale section at moment cheaper than new from a stealer. :happy2:
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How or when will i know whether i have battery drain or not. No noticable difference overnight , can any checks with a multi meter help me.....theres a canbus on the for sale section at moment cheaper than new from a stealer. :happy2:
here's the advice I got
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,28589.msg367568.html#msg367568
Leave it off an hour. If it shows the VW screen on boot up then it should be fine :happy2:
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Its also important to note that the VW screen will not always show on boot up
The only time you will see is if you open the door and start the engine/ignition on as quick as you can as it will boot as soon as the door is opened to speed up loading time
Battery goes flat in a day to two days if the issue is there
Most cars March 07 onwards do not suffer this problem however.
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Mine was Jan 07 (K) and was fine
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Yes i have a K and May 2007. Does your set turn on and play even with the ignition off?
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You should be fine then buddy
Yes I can use it with the ignition turned off if I wish
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converting mp4 to mp3......what is recommended free software..........have tried two and they are poor/sh!t
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its M4A to MP3
MP4 is a video file (even though M4A is called MPEG-4, M4A is the 'audio' version)
You can in fact do it in iTunes if you change the import settings in Edit > Preferences to MP3, then right click the songs you want to convert, choose Create MP3 version
Would recommend you set the quality in the import settings to at least 128kbps (personally I go for 192 or 256 depending on how many songs/how much space you have available)
To seperate them out, right click the columns at the top and choose File Type, and then youll have a new column that shows if its an MP3 or not
Does that help :happy2:
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Done it , got stuff on my hard drive :laugh:...............................................ALEX THANKS :happy2:
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No worries dude
be sure to hit the 'Thank You' button to the right :drinking:
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Hi guys, I'm trying to establish which version of RNS510 is in my dads Golf. It's a August 2009 car. Ultimately he would like to upgrade it to work on full post code navigation (if at all possible). At the moment it's 5 digit post code only.
I've tried the handbook - no joy. Doesn't seem to be any discs with it either. Is there something I can press on screen to find out?
Cheers
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Unfortunately not
VCDS scan or removing the unit is the only way on pre 39XX units
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more good news :smiley: typed in a post code today and got all seven digits entered. does that mean i have the most upto date maps ?
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Correct :happy2:
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Can't he just hold down the setup button to get to the secret menu and check the version and software/hardware too?
Dave
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Well yes, that is, if the secret menu has been enabled mate
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Ah ok sorry didnt know it needed to be enabled, thought it was just a secret menu they all had on them by default
Dave
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Unfortunately not. You have to go into the radio with VCDS and enable it in the adaptation button on channel 51 :signLOL:
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Ah right thanks i didnt know that, was just a thought to save him pulling the dash apart, mine must of been enabled already before i got it :smiley:
Dave
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Ah well, I guess he'll just have to stick with the 5 digit post code.
Will VW introduce update discs is due course with up to date mapping and 7 digit post codes for a simple upload? Seems strange if they wouldn't given the cost of these units.
Thanks for the help guys :happy2:
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Did you try accessing the secret setup menu??
Dave
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No, not yet - I won't see the car again until next weekend. I'll have a look then :happy2:
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any ideas if revison D is avail and what price were looking at ??
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Well my Ed30 May 2007 with K gateway shows no signs of battery drain having had the unit installed for about 2 weeks ish :happy2:
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Does anybody know the difference (if there is any) between RNS510C and RNS510F?
I was ready to buy a RNS510C LED when I came across this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-RNS510-GPS-VERSION-F-2011-LED-DISPLAY-WARRANTY-/180685912764?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a11b83abc
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from the looks of it that version looks like it has dual screens??....
jokes, no idea! :rolleye: