MK5 Golf GTI

General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Mako V12V on February 26, 2012, 01:09:26 pm

Title: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Mako V12V on February 26, 2012, 01:09:26 pm
Hi there folks. I test drove a 61 plate ex-demo Polo GTi with 4000 miles today. I'm thinking of swapping my Ed30 for this to reduce tax and fuel costs but also to get a newer car that has warranty and lower maintenance costs due to age.

However, is the 1.4 TSi engine still a nightmare for oil consumption?

Has all the earlier issues not been resolved now by VAG?

Should i now be able to trust a 61 plate, newer car?

Dont want to let my Ed30 go then regret it!

Also, I've never had a DSG and it sounds like there are issues there too -  are these isolated cases or commonplace?
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 26, 2012, 01:12:31 pm
I cant help with your question but you have a V12 Vantage and are worried about MPG and costs  :laugh: :laugh: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: andrewparker on February 26, 2012, 01:13:10 pm
Did you read EVO magazine's long term test report on it?
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 26, 2012, 01:18:16 pm
Hi there folks. I test drove a 61 plate ex-demo Polo GTi with 4000 miles today. I'm thinking of swapping my Ed30 for this to reduce tax and fuel costs but also to get a newer car that has warranty and lower maintenance costs due to age.

However, is the 1.4 TSi engine still a nightmare for oil consumption?

Has all the earlier issues not been resolved now by VAG?

Should i now be able to trust a 61 plate, newer car?

Dont want to let my Ed30 go then regret it!

Also, I've never had a DSG and it sounds like there are issues there too -  are these isolated cases or commonplace?

Running costs
Theres huge savings to be had.  When it was new, i couldnt even get close to the quoted mpg figures, but after a few thousand miles the mpg was just getting better and better.  My tax is up for renewal this month @ £130 for 12 months.  Compartively the Golf R im currently using at best can  manage 22mpg at a motorway cruise at the speed limits for 180miles.  My Fabia would easily have managed 45mpg on that trip.  Christ i managed 22mpg for a full track session at Mallory park.  Thats a 150mile return journey and 80+ laps with a passenger.

DSG
Basically from what i can work out, its purely scaremongering and thats it.  The same thing happened when VAG released the 6Spd DSG in the golf.

Oil Consumption.
Its hard to say.  Some guys have high consumption, others like me and hurdy havent.  tracking the threads on the forums tends to show a trend of guys who took it easy for running the car in have had high consumption.  Guys who gave it a good stern running in have no oil issues.  
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Hurdy on February 26, 2012, 02:33:38 pm
Well, I have the exact car you are talking about. A 61 reg Polo GTI.  :happy2:

Cars from August 2011 had uprated injectors, pistons/ rings and a few other minor modifications. VAG have been very good with dealing with any issues under warranty. DSG issues have basically stemmed from the mechatronics units and again these are sorted via warranty.
The car itself is very sprightly as stock, the suspension is capable and is as fast as a MKVI GTI to 62mph. Give the car some extra mods and the car is a little bombshell.

The bonus is that the fuel consumption is better than most performance cars should have the right to be and the tax is half that of what you'd expect. The stock brakes are poorer than I thought they would be and the boot space with the rear seats in place isn't big ( very good when down though), apart from that I cannot think of any negatives. Even the oil consumption hasn't been a worry, 1/2 a litre in 3k miles is all I've had to put in mine.

A great little car and I'm more than happy with ownership to date.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Mako V12V on February 26, 2012, 03:18:35 pm
Thanks for the replies. It's a difficult choice because the Ed30 is a good car and if this particular polo has oil and/or dsg issues I'll be kicking myself!
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Hurdy on February 26, 2012, 04:41:53 pm
If it has been a demo car and has 4k miles on the clock I'd have thought any dsg issues would have been sorted. Also if it is a demo car they should know if it has been drinking oil.

Just don't get a black one as there's already two of us on here with that colour!  :grin:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Deako on February 26, 2012, 05:20:48 pm
We need another Candy White one. ;)

Mine is a June 2011 car, but have yet to see if it has any consumption issues. Haven't covered enough miles. If it does it will be back in for either a new engine or updated piston rings.
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Hurdy on February 26, 2012, 05:39:17 pm
We need another Candy White one. ;)

Mine is a June 2011 car, but have yet to see if it has any consumption issues. Haven't covered enough miles. If it does it will be back in for either a new engine or updated piston rings.

I wouldn't worry as officially it was August, but 2011 VW Polo's seem okay.  :happy2:
For some reason it seems to be Seat cars that suffered most as I believe they got most of the bad batch of piston rings iirc.
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 26, 2012, 07:45:38 pm
We need another Candy White one. ;)

Mine is a June 2011 car, but have yet to see if it has any consumption issues. Haven't covered enough miles. If it does it will be back in for either a new engine or updated piston rings.

I wouldn't worry as officially it was August, but 2011 VW Polo's SEEM okay.  :happy2:
For some reason it seems to be Seat cars that suffered most as I believe they got most of the bad batch of piston rings iirc.


Famous last words  :scared:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Deako on February 26, 2012, 07:56:52 pm
We need another Candy White one. ;)

Mine is a June 2011 car, but have yet to see if it has any consumption issues. Haven't covered enough miles. If it does it will be back in for either a new engine or updated piston rings.

I wouldn't worry as officially it was August, but 2011 VW Polo's SEEM okay.  :happy2:
For some reason it seems to be Seat cars that suffered most as I believe they got most of the bad batch of piston rings iirc.


Famous last words  :scared:

Dont jinx my car!!  :fighting: :grin:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Mako V12V on February 27, 2012, 01:13:48 pm
Well i fancied a change as i've had the Ed30 for 2 years 5 months and am getting itchy feet but i'm also looking to reduce costs too whilst keeping some sort of performance and toys ala Ed30.
The Polo GTi fitted the bill nicely, it is a cracking car in looks, performance and running costs. However, with the current engine issues I've resigned myself to giving the Polo a miss.
I declined the car with the dealer this morning and he accepted it without question - he actually said he didn't blame me and knew where I was coming from!
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Deako on February 27, 2012, 01:15:23 pm
Well i fancied a change as i've had the Ed30 for 2 years 5 months and am getting itchy feet but i'm also looking to reduce costs too whilst keeping some sort of performance and toys ala Ed30.
The Polo GTi fitted the bill nicely, it is a cracking car in looks, performance and running costs. However, with the current engine issues I've resigned myself to giving the Polo a miss.
I declined the car with the dealer this morning and he accepted it without question - he actually said he didn't blame me and knew where I was coming from!


Thats what warranties are for.  :wink:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Gene Hunt on February 27, 2012, 02:06:42 pm
Keep the ED 30.It looks great. :happy2:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 27, 2012, 05:54:45 pm
Tbh VAG have accepted the flaws of thus engine, hence them releasing a newer revised engine with a different engine code to the current "CAVE" model engine.
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: JackG on February 27, 2012, 06:11:22 pm
Keep the ED 30.It looks great. :happy2:

+1, just stand back and take a look at it  :wink: I'd rather have that over a polo IMO of course
Endless tunning for eddies too  :party:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Mako V12V on February 27, 2012, 07:18:19 pm
Keep the ED 30.It looks great. :happy2:
Endless tunning for eddies too  :party:
Not much point in tuning my everyday car when my weekend car chucks oot 510bhp!
 :driver:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: JackG on February 27, 2012, 08:40:19 pm
Keep the ED 30.It looks great. :happy2:
Endless tunning for eddies too  :party:
Not much point in tuning my everyday car when my weekend car chucks oot 510bhp!
 :driver:

GT30  :driver: sell the Aston  :signLOL:
Thought about the bocenegra? If that's how you spell it  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 27, 2012, 08:44:05 pm
Aaaagh I've gotta stop reading how good the Polo GTI is. Luckily my dad has talked me out of it  :grin:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 27, 2012, 09:24:35 pm
Imo the Polo looks much better and ignoring outright tunability of the KO4 engine, the polo is a better all round package unless you need more space

The Ed30 is easily the ugliest of the bunch here.(readies himself for a flaming lol)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FIMAG0261.jpg&hash=eb8494358b249ae3c5a6332549d7ca28b1a25cad)

Its massively cheaper to own and when modified like for like its actually faster around track. :innocent:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: 182_blue on February 27, 2012, 09:48:54 pm
Tbh VAG have accepted the flaws of thus engine, hence them releasing a newer revised engine with a different engine code to the current "CAVE" model engine.

When is that out ?
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Top Cat on February 27, 2012, 09:55:32 pm
Imo the Polo looks much better and ignoring outright tunability of the KO4 engine, the polo is a better all round package unless you need more space

The Ed30 is easily the ugliest of the bunch here.(readies himself for a flaming lol)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FIMAG0261.jpg&hash=eb8494358b249ae3c5a6332549d7ca28b1a25cad)

Its massively cheaper to own and when modified like for like its actually faster around track. :innocent:

I really dont mind people knocking the looks of the golf, except for you. You have clearly bought the ugliest car ever made and as such given up any write to comment on the looks of anything.

It is the equivalent of the Elephant man telling the world that george Clooney is ugly.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 27, 2012, 09:59:08 pm
 :grin: :grin: I was wandering how long that would take :innocent:
Tbh VAG have accepted the flaws of thus engine, hence them releasing a newer revised engine with a different engine code to the current "CAVE" model engine.

When is that out ?


Ill see if I can find the link
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: JackG on February 27, 2012, 10:18:17 pm
Imo the Polo looks much better and ignoring outright tunability of the KO4 engine, the polo is a better all round package unless you need more space

The Ed30 is easily the ugliest of the bunch here.(readies himself for a flaming lol)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FIMAG0261.jpg&hash=eb8494358b249ae3c5a6332549d7ca28b1a25cad)

Its massively cheaper to own and when modified like for like its actually faster around track. :innocent:

I really dont mind people knocking the looks of the golf, except for you. You have clearly bought the ugliest car ever made and as such given up any write to comment on the looks of anything.

It is the equivalent of the Elephant man telling the world that george Clooney is ugly.  :laugh:

Yep you drive one don't you? Therefore your opinion is irrelevant  :signLOL:

On a serious note I think the leon is  :sick:
I like the polo gti in red and would have one. I miss my polo G40! 171.5 BHP and weighs 600KG  :driver: that was a car! Tell a lie it was a metal box, no abs, power steering,traction control or anything lol and the brakes may aswell of not been there!
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Mako V12V on February 28, 2012, 01:34:04 pm
Well hopefully when the revised "bullet proof" engine comes out, VAG will do the decent thing and recall all affected cars to put the new engines in them!!  :mad:

I'll not hold my breath though.
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: shaunsnape on September 14, 2012, 08:15:27 pm
Mine has been going through oil like there's no tomorrow. Just last Saturday I topped the engine up, and in 200 miles it's got through over half a litre of oil!!! Going to give the dealer a ring to get this looked at because it's killing my wallet!
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Deako on September 14, 2012, 08:30:00 pm
Mine has been going through oil like there's no tomorrow. Just last Saturday I topped the engine up, and in 200 miles it's got through over half a litre of oil!!! Going to give the dealer a ring to get this looked at because it's killing my wallet!

Shaun, that cant be right? I only had to top up 1/2 litre in that very Polo in over 3000 miles. Granted, it needed a top up when you brought the car, but that cant be right.
Title: Re: Polo GTI questions
Post by: Jay_bcfc on September 15, 2012, 09:39:18 pm
Anyone one know if there are any issues with the 2008 Polo Gti's? As I think I'm also going to have to change from an Ed30  :scared: