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Title: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on November 18, 2012, 06:15:30 pm
just having a look onhttp://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk (http://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk) and saw the xenon style head lights on sale for £155 uses h7 bulbs i think has anyone on here got any?

http://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk/en/Lighting-Tuning/Headlight/Headlight-Set-suitable-for-VW-Golf-5-yr-03-08.html?listtype=search&searchparam=vwgolf (http://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk/en/Lighting-Tuning/Headlight/Headlight-Set-suitable-for-VW-Golf-5-yr-03-08.html?listtype=search&searchparam=vwgolf)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on November 18, 2012, 07:06:44 pm
I saw these but If i do get any, it will be the hella ones
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on November 18, 2012, 10:45:05 pm
They do look good/o.e.m. and I like the price!
I'm also looking for a good set original xenons (with 10 to 12 pin adapters) for my mk5 gti, but I don't want to spend more then 400,- euro's (in The Netherlands), so was looking for the Hella xenon look set (with H7 bulbs).
Any experience with the FK models?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on November 19, 2012, 01:13:36 pm
They do look good/o.e.m. and I like the price!
I'm also looking for a good set original xenons (with 10 to 12 pin adapters) for my mk5 gti, but I don't want to spend more then 400,- euro's (in The Netherlands), so was looking for the Hella xenon look set (with H7 bulbs).
Any experience with the FK models?

ive seen a few vw's with other fk headlights looks good but none with the ones i posted up
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on November 20, 2012, 06:19:36 pm
Any more opinions on these?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on November 22, 2012, 02:06:21 pm
Would interested in these also tho would ideally prefer Hella or at least Depo but finding any of those in the uk at the mo is a non starter..
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on November 22, 2012, 02:19:38 pm
just having a look onhttp://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk (http://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk) and saw the xenon style head lights on sale for £155 uses h7 bulbs i think has anyone on here got any?

http://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk/en/Lighting-Tuning/Headlight/Headlight-Set-suitable-for-VW-Golf-5-yr-03-08.html?listtype=search&searchparam=vwgolf (http://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk/en/Lighting-Tuning/Headlight/Headlight-Set-suitable-for-VW-Golf-5-yr-03-08.html?listtype=search&searchparam=vwgolf)


Look idential to OEMs/ Hella/ Depo and would be a straight forward fit with them being H7's. Easy fitment with HID kit for Xenon look.

But they're £181.29 - not £155? (get the feeling they've just put them up in price due to "limited stock").

Where is FK based? The website had alot of prices in Euros so are you sure these are RHD?

I bought a set of Depos from Germany recently, was assured they were switchable but when I got them (and went to the hassle of fitting) I realised they were LHD only...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on November 22, 2012, 02:33:52 pm
If you click on specification it says that they are left & right so id imagine there is a switch to alter beam from lhd to rhd, however if this is actually the case when they arrive is another story.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on November 22, 2012, 02:36:58 pm
If you click on specification it says that they are left & right so id imagine there is a switch to alter beam from lhd to rhd, however if this is actually the case when they arrive is another story.

I wouldn't assume that at all - in fact I would read that as 'Left hand' headlight and 'Right hand' headlight. (as often listed on German headlights).

Also if there is a switch is it actually LHD and RHD or LHD and Flat (like most OEM)?

So lots to think about... but I'm only asking these questions as I've been bitten... albeit the seller was very good about it and gave me a full refund.


EDIT: In fact the spec says "left + right (Set)" so even more logical to assume it's referring to two headlights.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on November 22, 2012, 03:07:52 pm
If you put it that way, i think your right. So the only way to find out is to actually see a set up close.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on November 22, 2012, 03:19:38 pm
If you put it that way, i think your right. So the only way to find out is to actually see a set up close.

...or send them an email  :P

But I think it's a German company so can guess what the answer is going to be. Also looking at the close-up pic of where the bulb fits I can't see a leaver to switch.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on November 22, 2012, 03:50:44 pm
Yeah i tried to see a switch too with no luck, but then the pictures arent that great either.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on November 22, 2012, 04:46:39 pm
The price has gone up when I posted this it was a weekend offer still cheap thou

The company is based in Germany so maybe LHD but you can ring them to find out that's what i did when ordering some coilovers
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on November 25, 2012, 07:01:46 pm
Back to £155.

Bought some  :grin:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on November 25, 2012, 07:03:49 pm
Back to £155.

Bought some  :grin:

So you're sure they're Right hand drive? Bargain if they are, despite not being branded...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on November 26, 2012, 11:34:07 am
Tried to call through to the hotline in Germany but no answer.On another site they state on their FK headlamps the following

"FK Headlights are LHD unless specifiecally stated as RHD in the description above. LHD lights are only suitable for show use"
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Action jackson on November 26, 2012, 02:21:01 pm
When I had these there's a little arm inside the lights, where you insert the bulb you pull the
Arm up or down and it changes the shutter for LHD/RHD. hope this helps
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on November 26, 2012, 02:34:13 pm
When I had these there's a little arm inside the lights, where you insert the bulb you pull the
Arm up or down and it changes the shutter for LHD/RHD. hope this helps

Were yours, THESE very ones bought from FK?

Also does the arm actuall switch from LHD to RHD (and vice versa) or just flatten out the beam?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Action jackson on November 26, 2012, 03:27:08 pm
No but they look identical at the rear to the ones I had, when I bought mine off eBay
It didn't specify whether they were lhd/rhd. The lever  was on the black plastic surrounding the bulb housing and
Simply flicked up or down. There was even a thread a few years back with a pic of said lever
Edit I think the pic may have been the lights on your link.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on November 26, 2012, 03:43:21 pm
Thing is most (if not all) of these lights look identical. I've had a set before with no lever and LHD.

I now have OEM set up but buyer beware - I sent FK an email over the weekend to ask but no reply.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: RedRobin on November 26, 2012, 03:56:43 pm
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Buyer be aware (or beware) that the key to their spec is in the word "Xenon style lights".

Do they light up the road like genuine Xenons do? - If not, why buy?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: sub39h on November 26, 2012, 04:06:52 pm
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Buyer be aware (or beware) that the key to their spec is in the word "Xenon style lights".

Do they light up the road like genuine Xenons do? - If not, why buy?

The OP drives a standard Mk5 rather than a GTI. This could be a cheap alternative to buying OEM black headlights.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on November 26, 2012, 04:50:58 pm
Thing is most (if not all) of these lights look identical. I've had a set before with no lever and LHD.

I now have OEM set up but buyer beware - I sent FK an email over the weekend to ask but no reply.

Having had no response from an email i sent this morning i decided to send another email to them but in German and got a swift response, although not what i wanted to hear.

----- Original Message -----

From: FK Automotive GmbH | Custommersupport

Sent: 11/26/12 04:15 PM

To: Mo

Subject: AW: Fragen zu diesem Produkt? FKFSVW011025-01 [T-8YYQQDVDP5-15]

Hello Mo,

thank you for the interest in our porducts.
I'm really sorry, but I have to tell you that I can't  confirm you that you can use this headlights in the UK.

Have a nice evening.
Bei Rückfragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Best Regards / Très cordialement
Cedric Gall | Vertrieb Deutsch FK Automotive GmbH | Kuchengrund 10 | D-71522 Backnang
vertreten durch den Geschäftsführer Uwe Mühlberger | Handelsregister Stuttgart HRB 271485 | Ust-ID: DE812659710


Phone: +49 (7191) 3275-0 | Fax: +49 (7191) 3275-89 | http://www.fk-shop.de

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on November 29, 2012, 10:47:09 pm
Back to £155.

Bought some  :grin:

Did they turn up yet ? Let us know if they have a switch in them when they arrive  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on November 29, 2012, 11:14:18 pm
Here they are  :happy2:

Both left and right hand drive  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8064%2F8224304563_2c6dce7145_z.jpg&hash=5042b925d0cd15ba775dddfdd74fe32eff1e2cbc)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8201%2F8224302233_4be78c2712_z.jpg&hash=6b4f08d88132d01cf986068f567151669ee1b110)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on November 29, 2012, 11:23:48 pm
KEANO,

Did you read the posts above?

It wasn't that we were doubting there would be two lights, more that it's likely to be Left Hand Drive.

This is the response I got from FK... Much like Mo

Quote
Hello,

thank you for the quick reply.
So I have to tell you that they will fit in your car but they are not available for RHD.

If you have further questions do not hesitate to contact us.  

Bei Rückfragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Best Regards / Très cordialement
Cedric Gall | Vertrieb Deutsch
FK Automotive GmbH | Kuchengrund 10 | D-71522 Backnang
vertreten durch den Geschäftsführer Uwe Mühlberger | Handelsregister Stuttgart HRB 271485 | Ust-ID: DE812659710


Phone: +49 (7191) 3275-0 | Fax: +49 (7191) 3275-89 | http://www.fk-shop.de

If there is no switch inside, if I were you I would ask the question of FK before you go about removing the bumper and fitting them...


Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on November 30, 2012, 07:50:38 am
Here they are  :happy2:

Both left and right hand drive  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8064%2F8224304563_2c6dce7145_z.jpg&hash=5042b925d0cd15ba775dddfdd74fe32eff1e2cbc)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8201%2F8224302233_4be78c2712_z.jpg&hash=6b4f08d88132d01cf986068f567151669ee1b110)

Interesting!! But are they all going to be the same?
Hella ones - the cheapest I found was from a German seller at £291 delivered
These ones look similar for almost half the price
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on November 30, 2012, 10:52:49 pm
Here they are  :happy2:

Both left and right hand drive  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8064%2F8224304563_2c6dce7145_z.jpg&hash=5042b925d0cd15ba775dddfdd74fe32eff1e2cbc)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8201%2F8224302233_4be78c2712_z.jpg&hash=6b4f08d88132d01cf986068f567151669ee1b110)

would like an update on these if the are light beam rhd and pics on your car so i can order sum when they are on offer again  :happy2:

edit: just had had a look on the website seems they dont sell them any more if they are both left and right switchable your a lucky git lol
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 01, 2012, 05:59:53 pm
I'm on the website now - they are still there.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 01, 2012, 06:03:48 pm
http://www.fk-shop.de/en/Lighting-Tuning/Headlight/Headlight-Set-suitable-for-VW-Jetta-5-yr-05-10.html (http://www.fk-shop.de/en/Lighting-Tuning/Headlight/Headlight-Set-suitable-for-VW-Jetta-5-yr-05-10.html)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on December 02, 2012, 12:18:19 pm
 :grin: I post a pic to show that they arrived lol.

By mentioning that they are LHD and RHD I meant that they can be adjusted to suit driving on either side of the road.

Great buy  IMO  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8482%2F8234036583_ec669f6e8a_z.jpg&hash=9f21e339a7feb0eef2317a00ab3b7dda39f4bbb6)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8477%2F8235202842_4a6c5deb65_z.jpg&hash=1111a17ef791ad1306b6fea7a148e3185d44e00c)

Nick
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 02, 2012, 12:26:06 pm
Result!! Odd that FK replied to two seperate queries saying they're not suitable for RHD...

Very strange.

They look as good as my OEM retro fit. Are those uprated bulbs or a HID Kit?

Any pics of the lever or the beam pattern up against a wall?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 02, 2012, 12:57:27 pm
Did you buy them direct from FK? on the same site as i posted the link to?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 02, 2012, 01:13:32 pm
They are now off the site! :(
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 02, 2012, 02:15:34 pm
Found a guy on ebay that sells them and maybe interested in doing a group buy on them? He's quoted £171 inc delivery to the UK - they are the FK ones which are meant to be switchable to RHD internally.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: winrya on December 02, 2012, 02:37:41 pm
Found a guy on ebay that sells them and maybe interested in doing a group buy on them? He's quoted £171 inc delivery to the UK - they are the FK ones which are meant to be switchable to RHD internally.

I'd be tempted with a set if they are indeed rhd version.  Keano, how's the light output or are you using a HID kit?  Are they perfect fit etc ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on December 02, 2012, 03:40:11 pm
I'm using them with a 6000k HID kit. Fit seems perfect too.

Not sure on light output yet as I haven't driven in the dark yet. Ill get you all a pic tonight :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 02, 2012, 03:43:54 pm
Quite peeeved that I have just seen this thread, these are the lights I wanted all along yet couldnt find them so settled with set of new GTi ones... Grrrr

Anyway, I will have a set of these if someone is setting up a group buy and they are definately RHD... please let me know if someone does this :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 02, 2012, 03:54:06 pm
Keano - do you have any pics of the switch you need to flip to turn them from left to RHD?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on December 02, 2012, 04:03:48 pm
Ill get one for you   :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 02, 2012, 04:08:51 pm
Anyone got a working link? The links posted just take me to the up to the home site and I cant find them for toffee :(
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on December 02, 2012, 04:15:05 pm
Anyone got a working link? The links posted just take me to the up to the home site and I cant find them for toffee :(

they have been removed from the site i have contacted them to see if they will get them instock again
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on December 02, 2012, 04:16:17 pm
Found a guy on ebay that sells them and maybe interested in doing a group buy on them? He's quoted £171 inc delivery to the UK - they are the FK ones which are meant to be switchable to RHD internally.

fancy posting the link plz  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 02, 2012, 04:21:19 pm
Anyone got a working link? The links posted just take me to the up to the home site and I cant find them for toffee :(

they have been removed from the site i have contacted them to see if they will get them instock again

Good lad, let me know how you get on please fella :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 02, 2012, 04:51:47 pm
this is the link to the seller online that im speaking to. My sister lives in Germany and will get them sent there and she will send them onto the UK for me! :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: winrya on December 02, 2012, 06:57:24 pm
Keano, how long did they take to swap.  Was it simply a case of removing the grille, the screws behind and the ones in the wheel arch and popping forward or is there screws underneath too?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Jonny on December 02, 2012, 07:04:46 pm
Well you have to take the bumper off slightly so you can access the lugs underneath the headlight

there's a video knocking around somewhere showing how to do it.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 02, 2012, 07:14:16 pm
In my expirience its just as easy to take the whole bumper off if your doing a complete change, Change ya bulbs whilst your at it :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on December 02, 2012, 07:41:46 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8339%2F8239089490_05375f17de_z.jpg&hash=83bb5b5a714f06075c8fcdadad11492349f86a2f)

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Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 02, 2012, 08:15:16 pm
 :happy2:

Going to get a pair of the FK ones ordered in the next few days! They look pretty good
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on December 02, 2012, 08:47:58 pm
this is the link to the seller online that im speaking to. My sister lives in Germany and will get them sent there and she will send them onto the UK for me! :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

thanks mate im sure we could get them alittle cheaper if we get enough people wanting them for the group buy  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 02, 2012, 09:21:09 pm
Cant see these on the fk site anymore? Id be interested in a GB if they are ok!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on December 02, 2012, 09:23:35 pm
Cant see these on the fk site anymore? Id be interested in a GB if they are ok!

they have been removed off site i have contected the company to see if they will get them in again ill keep u updated  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 02, 2012, 09:41:07 pm
Hey Keano - you wouldn't happen to have the FK part number do you?? Just want to make sure I'm trying to get the right ones!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 02, 2012, 11:02:00 pm
Hey Keano - you wouldn't happen to have the FK part number do you?? Just want to make sure I'm trying to get the right ones!

FKFSVW011025-01
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 03, 2012, 07:36:13 am
Where are you getting them from Polo? That ebay listing?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 03, 2012, 07:49:21 am
this is the link to the seller online that im speaking to. My sister lives in Germany and will get them sent there and she will send them onto the UK for me! :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

I'm starting to think I may be invisible but I'll put this down anyway...

I bought the lights in the link- they're depo. The seller assured me they're switchable but when I got them they were LHD only!!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 03, 2012, 08:21:00 am
That's why I asked for Keano's part number - the ones in the link has a part number, but no manufacturers details!! Thanks for a heads up!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 03, 2012, 08:46:57 am
i ordered a set ,but cancelled by accident .so i went to reorder but the item had been taken down by fk automotive ,so followed link and reordered should get in few days lol cant wait.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 03, 2012, 08:57:42 am
this is the link to the seller online that im speaking to. My sister lives in Germany and will get them sent there and she will send them onto the UK for me! :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

I'm starting to think I may be invisible but I'll put this down anyway...

I bought the lights in the link- they're depo. The seller assured me they're switchable but when I got them they were LHD only!!

Just got a reply back from them saying Depo - lhd only
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 04, 2012, 10:49:37 am
The FK lights were back in stock this mornig and i ordered a set. Went back straight away to read the review on the site but now they are no longer on the website. Strange.  

Got my confirmation email.Will wait and see.:popcornsoda:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 04, 2012, 11:32:21 am
yeh exactly what happened to me ,maybe they are low on stock?on the fk website you can track the delivery by dhl im on 60% complete delivery ,so close cant wait ,wanted xenon but this is the next best thing for price and hassle
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: sengh on December 04, 2012, 11:49:34 am
Hi guys I like yourselves ordered a set of fk xenon style headlights from the fk sale, I can confirm they are actually made by depo! ( have depo stamped on the back )

Keano are your sidelights on in the picture? My sidelights are identical to the oem headlights.

Oh an by the way fk also stock hella xenon style too of you look under the brand section. (it's not listed under the vehicle model for some reason)

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 04, 2012, 11:57:45 am
Saw the Hella ones,
Beware as they are priced per light. So you have to buy the left and right ones indivdually.
Do your Depo lights have the switch inside to make them RHD ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 04, 2012, 01:09:11 pm
I've been in touch with a Uk supplier that sells FK products and they have confirmed that they are made by Depo and are sold as LHD only - however some of them have the switch which flattens out the beam pattern, but its not an actual RHD conversion.

Buyer beware??
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 04, 2012, 01:21:10 pm
I've been in touch with a Uk supplier that sells FK products and they have confirmed that they are made by Depo and are sold as LHD only - however some of them have the switch which flattens out the beam pattern, but its not an actual RHD conversion.

Buyer beware??

This makes sense and kind of what I was trying to imply before – without sounding like I’m suggesting people who’ve bought these don’t know what they’re talking about.

It’s all great them looking like Xenons but if the light pattern is horrible or you are failed at MOT – then soon feel like less of a bargain.

I had been on the look out for xenons for ages and couldn’t for love nor money find anything were RHD (not just flat pattern) and less than £300.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 04, 2012, 01:38:02 pm
I want a set, but all the confusion worries me :(

I dont have the money to gamble with and end up with a set of lights that aint no dammmm gooood :( lol
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 04, 2012, 01:58:40 pm
The other fly in the oitntment is if you buy them from depo direct they are even cheaper??!!!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 04, 2012, 02:03:16 pm
The other fly in the oitntment is if you buy them from depo direct they are even cheaper??!!!

But can you buy from Depo direct?

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 04, 2012, 02:05:05 pm
The depo ones are listed on german ebay at about £135
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 04, 2012, 02:13:05 pm
Sorry miskeyed - £165!!!!

Here is the link to the Depo ones

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321012931323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321012931323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: chrisr763 on December 04, 2012, 04:31:44 pm
Sorry miskeyed - £165!!!!

Here is the link to the Depo ones

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321012931323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321012931323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Those look pretty good!? Anyone tried them?  :ashamed:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 04, 2012, 04:53:16 pm
Sorry miskeyed - £165!!!!

Here is the link to the Depo ones

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321012931323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321012931323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Those look pretty good!? Anyone tried them?  :ashamed:

They could be LHD only so look horrible and £165 is alot of cash to spend and see if they have the switch to change to RHD
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 04, 2012, 05:15:00 pm
exactly!

Someone got £165 they can lend me to try them???????????? :jumping:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 04, 2012, 05:18:48 pm
Sure, il send it over now!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on December 04, 2012, 05:40:55 pm
as long as these lights pass mot via the switch im not fussed and will get some

keano did yours pass mot!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 04, 2012, 07:28:58 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FDSC00065.jpg&hash=bc44844978c29bf478a0740d479f10ec6c9a7175)  
found this on a astra website?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 04, 2012, 07:32:41 pm
KEANO CAN U Clarify the situation with these fk automotive lights as you seem to be the only guy with a set
1 do these have a lever lhd to rhd ?
2 if so are these uk rhd ? thanks
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 04, 2012, 09:19:38 pm
He's already confirmed it has a switch but ideally some pics of the beam pattern up against a wall should answer if there is a kick up in the right place. Normally best at about 5 meters or so away from a wall at least.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on December 04, 2012, 10:52:09 pm
As I mentioned to the guy that Pm'd me earlier.

This is the beam pattern STRAIGHT OUT THE BOX. I haven't aligned them, or faffed or twisted or pulled anything yet. And tbh, not sure if there is any point as they don't glare, don't shoot off light in random directions, they just light up the road.

They are less than £180 guys. If you want perfect, I'll give you a link for some £600 2nd hand genuine xenons.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8487%2F8245817194_0916d676b8_z.jpg&hash=8bff60cf8cd5941a2dd7acbbc80d86fc98073c5d)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 05, 2012, 09:00:05 am
Just sent depo an email directly to the euro distribution centre. May get an answer there and a discount for a group buy was mentioned!!!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 05, 2012, 09:06:27 am
Thanks for the pics. Not bad beam pattern but clearly currently set to LHD as you can see the kick up. You're right headlight is also set higher than your left so almost certainly would be blinding on coming traffic.

Appreciate they were relatively cheap and I'm not meaning to make this sound like a witch hunt - if you're happy with them, great- that's what really matter. I guess I'm a bit anal about these things.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Action jackson on December 05, 2012, 09:08:21 am
I'm up for a group buy
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 05, 2012, 09:51:28 am
Thanks for the pics. Not bad beam pattern but clearly currently set to LHD as you can see the kick up. You're right headlight is also set higher than your left so almost certainly would be blinding on coming traffic.

Appreciate they were relatively cheap and I'm not meaning to make this sound like a witch hunt - if you're happy with them, great- that's what really matter. I guess I'm a bit anal about these things.


Id ideally like to see what these look like when set to RHD and aligned properly.The set of depo projectors/hid kit i had on my Mk4 had the same pattern before being set up properly. Once aligned correctly they were spot on. Passed several MOT's and the tester even commented on how nice they looked.The pic Red6688 posted was the same sticker i had on my old ones.Obviously these are different style lights but as long as the switch is there we should be able to get them set up well enough i hope.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 05, 2012, 11:25:46 am
the lights have just arrived look cool but NO SWITCH ? where are these located cant see.these are depo labelled on the top it sayd lhd and rhd ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 05, 2012, 11:40:17 am
Should be a lever inside where the bulb goes i believe
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: chrisr763 on December 05, 2012, 12:27:02 pm
the lights have just arrived look cool but NO SWITCH ? where are these located cant see.these are depo labelled on the top it sayd lhd and rhd ?

Get some photo's up, show us exactly what ones you purchased too?  :wink:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 05, 2012, 01:38:10 pm
Just got this direct from depo!!

Hello Andy,

Hope this mail finds you well.

The RHD type is available, part number is 441-11A5L/R-REHM3.

Please contact our distribution in UK as below if you need it:


Trupart Limited
Phone: 01302 381899
Fax: 01302 381570
Contact person: Gareth Williams
Email: gw@trupart.co.uk

Have a nice day!


Best Regards,
Elaine Lin
European Team
Depo Auto Parts Ind. Co., Ltd.
Tel. +886-2-2776-0003 (ext. 282)
Fax +886-2-2776-0016
E-mail europe@depoautolamp.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew France"
To: <europe@depoautolamp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 4:59 PM
Subject: RHD query
Hello
I thought it best to come straight to the product manufacturer!
Could you please let me know it this item number is available in RHD fitment, or of the unit is adjustable to RHD.
MkV golf - 441-11A5R/L-LEH3 in black
Also where are they available from in the UK?
With thanks
Andy France
Sent from my iPad=
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 05, 2012, 01:53:26 pm
I'm just on the phone to them now (trupart) to see what cost they are and chances of a group buy & if so how many we would need!!

Wtf - 2-3 month wait on them arriving!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: chrisr763 on December 05, 2012, 02:20:34 pm
I'm just on the phone to them now (trupart) to see what cost they are and chances of a group buy & if so how many we would need!!

Wtf - 2-3 month wait on them arriving!

That's a crazy long time! Let us know :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 05, 2012, 02:31:23 pm
the lights have just arrived look cool but NO SWITCH ? where are these located cant see.these are depo labelled on the top it sayd lhd and rhd ?

Look for something like this
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmodiddy%2FGTI_2007%2Flever2.jpg&hash=f804c202197ebdaa22b3820c9b4251517f50d87b)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 05, 2012, 02:41:49 pm
Are they pics of your lights Mo?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 05, 2012, 02:44:46 pm
No this is what i had on the Depo projectors on my Mk4. I cancelled my order in the end, It has been sat with no progress for the last few days and no response or update from FK, so i cancelled it a few hours ago.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: chrisr763 on December 05, 2012, 02:54:18 pm
Ive been in touch with a few people, they have pushed me onto these guys.

Dont know what people make of these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK5-03-09-BLACK-GTI-XENON-LOOK-PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHTS-HEADLAMPS-NEW-PAIR-/350661964713?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model:Golf&hash=item51a514f3a9

 :smiley:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 05, 2012, 03:44:28 pm
I have emailed the seller to confirm brand and whether they are RHD.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: winrya on December 05, 2012, 06:43:50 pm
I have emailed the seller to confirm brand and whether they are RHD.

Did you get a reply?  You'd assume being sold in the uk to uk buyers they are rhd??  Only 20 mins down the road from me, wonder if they'll do a deal for cash on collection :wink:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 05, 2012, 06:44:26 pm
Go and have a look for us all!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 05, 2012, 06:49:55 pm
Pic on the eBay link is straight off the depo website catalogue!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 05, 2012, 07:28:47 pm
I have emailed the seller to confirm brand and whether they are RHD.

Did you get a reply?  You'd assume being sold in the uk to uk buyers they are rhd??  Only 20 mins down the road from me, wonder if they'll do a deal for cash on collection :wink:

No reply as of yet . Dont think this guy would appreciate visitors lol. The ebay link says the following.

Energized Customs
STRICTLY NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
Wolverhampton
West Midlands
WV7 3BH
United Kingdom

If i get no reply tonight ill call in the morning.
As to whether these would be RHD seen as they are being sold in the Uk, id like to hope they were RHD but wouldnt be surprised if they are not, and wouldnt want to assume they have the switch inside either   :rolleye:

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on December 05, 2012, 07:34:40 pm
I have emailed the seller to confirm brand and whether they are RHD.

Did you get a reply?  You'd assume being sold in the uk to uk buyers they are rhd??  Only 20 mins down the road from me, wonder if they'll do a deal for cash on collection :wink:

No reply as of yet . Dont think this guy would appreciate visitors lol. The ebay link says the following.

Energized Customs
STRICTLY NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
Wolverhampton
West Midlands
WV7 3BH
United Kingdom

If i get no reply tonight ill call in the morning.



bloody hell not far from me aswel they used to have a shop bout 2 miles from my house which closed down
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: DSG-GTI on December 05, 2012, 07:56:23 pm
Fancy these myself guys .... shame they wont let you collect I would of had a bit of a drive by whilst working  :wink: maybe worth asking the question if someone could call in and take a look if they have the lever to adjust them... he would certainly sell a few if we new ... Just have to watch that to many of us don't ask the same question as the price may go up..    :popcornsoda:

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: winrya on December 05, 2012, 08:32:44 pm
I have emailed the seller to confirm brand and whether they are RHD.

Did you get a reply?  You'd assume being sold in the uk to uk buyers they are rhd??  Only 20 mins down the road from me, wonder if they'll do a deal for cash on collection :wink:

No reply as of yet . Dont think this guy would appreciate visitors lol. The ebay link says the following.

Energized Customs
STRICTLY NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
Wolverhampton
West Midlands
WV7 3BH
United Kingdom

If i get no reply tonight ill call in the morning.



bloody hell not far from me aswel they used to have a shop bout 2 miles from my house which closed down

Haha, I grew up a mile or 2 away.  Small world
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 05, 2012, 09:04:20 pm
Fancy these myself guys .... shame they wont let you collect I would of had a bit of a drive by whilst working  :wink: maybe worth asking the question if someone could call in and take a look if they have the lever to adjust them... he would certainly sell a few if we new ... Just have to watch that to many of us don't ask the same question as the price may go up..    :popcornsoda:



Good point.As soon as i hear any news i will post on here and update you guys.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: DSG-GTI on December 05, 2012, 09:29:26 pm
Ok bud.... fingers crossed.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 06, 2012, 08:11:33 am
Hey again all!

Probably an aboslute howler or a question but what is the difference between LHD & RHD exactly? I dont get it :(

LOL
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 06, 2012, 08:18:25 am
It's the way the beam angle sits.

RHD = \

LHD = /

LHD on a RHD car puts the highest side of the beam pattern is right into the face of oncoming traffic
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 06, 2012, 08:26:03 am
Is this to accomodate for the angle of the road?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 06, 2012, 08:40:28 am
If we are talking about the RHD - the car sits on the left side of the road so the beam angle is high on the left (to light the side of the road on your side) and lower at the right so as not to blind on coming cars.

And LHD is the opposite - the cars sit on the right so that its the right side that is high to light the side of the road.

So if you put a LHD car in a RHD situation - the beam will be high into oncoming traffic and where you need the light at the side of the road the beam will be too low.

Hope that helps

Pics to help :-
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3119729 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3119729)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 06, 2012, 11:01:56 am
All lights have a "Kick up" to light the verge on the near side.

So Right hand drive the kick up would be light this:
_____
         \_______

And Left hand drive kick up like this:

          _______
_____/
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 06, 2012, 12:23:11 pm
GOOD NEWS Guys!!!

Had a reply to my email to the seller and he confirms that they are 100% RHD and made by Depo.Tried to negotiate a discount for us but he said (and i quote) "These are already proving mega popular and we only have 6 sets so i wouldn't be looking to discount on them"

I am going to order a set now and let you know what they are like when they arrive.If anyone else is looking to buy some do so now as id imagine when these are gone and come back on sale they will be at a higher price.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 06, 2012, 02:39:52 pm
GOOD NEWS Guys!!!

Had a reply to my email to the seller and he confirms that they are 100% RHD and made by Depo.Tried to negotiate a discount for us but he said (and i quote) "These are already proving mega popular and we only have 6 sets so i wouldn't be looking to discount on them"

I am going to order a set now and let you know what they are like when they arrive.If anyone else is looking to buy some do so now as id imagine when these are gone and come back on sale they will be at a higher price.


Guys! I live in The Netherlands, so I need LHD (left hand drive) right???
I want the exact same set as 'Keano' (looks stock/o.e.m.) on my 2005 mk5 GTI. Are they from the brand 'FK'?
I can't find them on the FK website anymore...
Also looked at the ones in the ebay link ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 ) mentioned above (brand Depo?) but it looks like the glass projector are smaller (diameter), so it doesn't look good/not o.e.m..
Am I right?

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/headlights.png)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 06, 2012, 02:52:38 pm
GOOD NEWS Guys!!!

Had a reply to my email to the seller and he confirms that they are 100% RHD and made by Depo.Tried to negotiate a discount for us but he said (and i quote) "These are already proving mega popular and we only have 6 sets so i wouldn't be looking to discount on them"

I am going to order a set now and let you know what they are like when they arrive.If anyone else is looking to buy some do so now as id imagine when these are gone and come back on sale they will be at a higher price.


Guys! I live in The Netherlands, so I need LHD (left hand drive) right???
I want the exact same set as 'Keano' (looks stock/o.e.m.) on my 2005 mk5 GTI. Are they from the brand 'FK'?
I can't find them on the FK website anymore...
Also looked at the ones in the ebay link ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320934515308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 ) mentioned above (brand Depo?) but it looks like the glass projector are smaller (diameter), so it doesn't look good/not o.e.m..
Am I right?

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/headlights.png)

Yes you will need LHD lights.
With regards to the Depo ones being different to the FK ones i think a lot of the images used on ebay are generic ones and someone also mentioned earlier in this thread that the Fk ones were in fact made by Depo, and were stamped as such oin the casing.Ill be sure to check mine when they arrive and see what the projector lense looks like.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 06, 2012, 03:18:15 pm
Let me know 'Mo'!
What seller have you used (link)?
Maybe I can contact him if he sells lhd ones and for what price shipped to The Netherlands.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 06, 2012, 03:21:56 pm
i ll sell u mine just recieved from germany by fk automotive
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 06, 2012, 03:28:54 pm
i ll sell u mine just recieved from germany by fk automotive

Pm sent
So yours are from FK and are from the brand 'Depo'. So FK and Depo are the same...?
No lever on yours to switch between lhd and rhd?
On the FK's from Keano he mentioned a lever!?!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 06, 2012, 03:32:52 pm
Im resisting a set of these! Il just get some hella ones eventually i think!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 06, 2012, 04:17:41 pm
ive tried emailing fk automotive and calling ,ive given up with them and cant find switch, and with other members advising keano light as lhd with kick on right side opposed to left for uk driving i might sell them .i think i should have waited instead of impulse buying .
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 06, 2012, 04:30:57 pm
I'm about to buy the FK (labelled Depo) xenon look headlights from red6688 (contact via PM).
Weird that he can't find a switch (lhd/rhd) inside them. So i guess they are different compared to Keano's headlights?!
Red6688's headlight are now lhd, so useful for me (The Netherlands).
I'm also going to look for a good 5000K hid kit.
A year ago I tried a (Infinity) hid set in my halogen housings, but after some weeks the wiper motor failed (well known problem with aftermarket hid). Any suggestions how to connect/what type?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 06, 2012, 04:43:20 pm
I'm about to buy the FK (labelled Depo) xenon look headlights from red6688 (contact via PM).
Weird that he can't find a switch (lhd/rhd) inside them. So i guess they are different compared to Keano's headlights?!
Red6688's headlight are now lhd, so useful for me (The Netherlands).
I'm also going to look for a good 5000K hid kit.
A year ago I tried a (Infinity) hid set in my halogen housings, but after some weeks the wiper motor failed (well known problem with aftermarket hid). Any suggestions how to connect/what type?

Done a bit of research on this today and according to a thread i was reading earlier on Briskoda the best bet is to buy normal non canbus friendly hid kit and get the coding on the car altered to xenons without shutter.This way you dont have any issues with wiper motors burning out, and the light out warning will work if one of the hid bulbs fail.

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 06, 2012, 04:55:39 pm

Done a bit of research on this today and according to a thread i was reading earlier on Briskoda the best bet is to buy normal non canbus friendly hid kit and get the coding on the car altered to xenons without shutter.This way you dont have any issues with wiper motors burning out, and the light out warning will work if one of the hid bulbs fail.



This was exactly what I did! (Coding xenon without shutters with vcds and used 6000K Infinity hids without extra warning cancelers). Work great for about 8 weeks, but suddenly wiper motor failed. Removed the hid kit and threw it away. 
Maybe also depends on modelyear. Mine is 06-2005 AXX
Still confused about the lhd/rhd switch on FK/Depo headlights, because nobody posted a picture/used the lever...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 06, 2012, 05:16:06 pm

Done a bit of research on this today and according to a thread i was reading earlier on Briskoda the best bet is to buy normal non canbus friendly hid kit and get the coding on the car altered to xenons without shutter.This way you dont have any issues with wiper motors burning out, and the light out warning will work if one of the hid bulbs fail.



This was exactly what I did! (Coding xenon without shutters with vcds and used 6000K Infinity hids without extra warning cancelers). Work great for about 8 weeks, but suddenly wiper motor failed. Removed the hid kit and threw it away. 
Maybe also depends on modelyear. Mine is 06-2005 AXX
Still confused about the lhd/rhd switch on FK/Depo headlights, because nobody posted a picture/used the lever...

That's very weird. And the coding wasn't just to code out the bulb out light. Also what hid kit did you buy 35 or 55w. Just want to make sure before I spend any more cash.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 06, 2012, 05:28:27 pm

That's very weird. And the coding wasn't just to code out the bulb out light. Also what hid kit did you buy 35 or 55w. Just want to make sure before I spend any more cash.

It was a 55W kit. Came from my dad's Audi A6.
Coding wasn't for bulb out. I checked the box 'xenon without shutters'.
Maybe the 55W was the problem?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 06, 2012, 08:17:36 pm
More forummembers with detailed FK/Depo o.e.m. Xenon look headlights???
Anyone discovered differences (looks) compared to o.e.m./original xenons?
Will the manual height adjuster (scroll wheel) work? 10pin connector?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: winrya on December 06, 2012, 08:29:06 pm
GOOD NEWS Guys!!!

Had a reply to my email to the seller and he confirms that they are 100% RHD and made by Depo.Tried to negotiate a discount for us but he said (and i quote) "These are already proving mega popular and we only have 6 sets so i wouldn't be looking to discount on them"

I am going to order a set now and let you know what they are like when they arrive.If anyone else is looking to buy some do so now as id imagine when these are gone and come back on sale they will be at a higher price.

Looking forward to your conclusion.  Get some good pics up if you can, be nice to see conclusively if these are worth a purchase.  Apart from the fear of removing the bumper this looks like a nice little mod :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 06, 2012, 09:38:00 pm
More forummembers with detailed FK/Depo o.e.m. Xenon look headlights???
Anyone discovered differences (looks) compared to o.e.m./original xenons?
Will the manual height adjuster (scroll wheel) work? 10pin connector?
They are plug and play fitted with adjusters. The manual level should work as normal.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 07, 2012, 09:21:27 am
All of these headlights look identical to OEM – the only difference is in construction. Hella and Depo are known for making OEM equipment so are associated with good quality. But nothing to say non Hella or Depo aren’t good quality.

As for the LHD > RHD lever, they’re virtually all in the same place for all headlights. This is because the beam pattern is altered by a metal plate in front of the bulb (before the projector).

This is a good view of where to look for it (location wise) the lever itself might look slightly different
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capav.com%2FAudi%2FHID%2FHeadlight-Lever.jpg&hash=86cae6092010db05a37a1d5f375202fd570e3c8b)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 07, 2012, 12:13:38 pm
hi ive bought some fk automotive xenon look lights from fk but are labelled DEPO ,after searching for the lever and recieving pics there is denitely NO LEVER but i just noticed at the top a L and R with a plastic bolt to turn ,is this the LEVER TO CHANGE FROM LEFT TO RIGHT HAND DRIVE ????if so sorry tim i will have to keep these lights after all.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3423.jpg&hash=b82d4116d523172a7ff8e5c0fb2694c723f14b20)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3424.jpg&hash=69d6bbae812a4f516a858caa657e445fd36c5b9f)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3425-1.jpg&hash=ae84f537722007521fd0375617565e5c0e32292c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3422.jpg&hash=079c88a27fef8cfa2db882619d6f18b54ebeabcd)
the lenses as requested (same as keano!)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 07, 2012, 12:21:28 pm
1st pic shows the bolt
2nd pic shows when you turn bolt l and r it will push the cog and move the lense .is this to alter left and right hand drive option to alter the left and right kick for uk use ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 07, 2012, 12:33:01 pm
Sounds quite possibly that is the lever if the lense tilts up on the L turn and down on the R turn of the bolt?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 07, 2012, 01:08:05 pm
Afraid not guys. That's actually moving the area the light is being thrown out at further left, right... there will be one for up, down too... once set these normally never need to be changed.

Look at the picture I posted. The lever will be next to where the bulb fits. Looking at your pics Red, there is no lever to be seen.

Also if you take a closer look at the pic I posted, and in particular where the bulb fits - you can see a metal plate in that hole. The left pic shows the very subtle kick up... this shape:
___
     \_____
... and the right pic shows the opposite...
       ____
___/
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 07, 2012, 01:52:24 pm
Afraid not guys. That's actually moving the area the light is being thrown out at further left, right... there will be one for up, down too... once set these normally never need to be changed.

Look at the picture I posted. The lever will be next to where the bulb fits. Looking at your pics Red, there is no lever to be seen.

Also if you take a closer look at the pic I posted, and in particular where the bulb fits - you can see a metal plate in that hole. The left pic shows the very subtle kick up... this shape:
___
     \_____
... and the right pic shows the opposite...
       ____
___/

So which is the correct one for rhd according to the image you posted earlier ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 07, 2012, 01:54:42 pm
Afraid not guys. That's actually moving the area the light is being thrown out at further left, right... there will be one for up, down too... once set these normally never need to be changed.

Look at the picture I posted. The lever will be next to where the bulb fits. Looking at your pics Red, there is no lever to be seen.

Also if you take a closer look at the pic I posted, and in particular where the bulb fits - you can see a metal plate in that hole. The left pic shows the very subtle kick up... this shape:
___
     \_____
... and the right pic shows the opposite...
       ____
___/

So which is the correct one for rhd according to the image you posted earlier ?

One on the left:

i.e. ___
          \_____
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 07, 2012, 02:08:10 pm
Good stuff. Red6688 what does your shutter look like in your projector ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: DSG-GTI on December 07, 2012, 02:36:23 pm
Looks and sounds interesting guy's ....  They look really good, Maybe one of you guys could fit them and park parallel to a flat surface and see what the lever does to the beam, I think this is going to be the only true way of actually finding out how the pattern changes. Me personally will be happy as long as the beam is not all over the place and cuts off at a set level and is flat with a kick up on kerb side... Although the height will adjustable via the dash still anyway. Keep up the good work fellas we are nearly there.  :wink: Finger is on the trigger...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 07, 2012, 03:43:46 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3428.jpg&hash=91c114e617ed94c99dcbdfec9e3c06099449565f)
the kick is on the right so does that mean its left hand drive?
these lights driving me crazy ,if lhd tim do you still want them?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: DSG-GTI on December 07, 2012, 03:53:00 pm
Looks good to be RHD to me... more light to the kerb side. If you don't want them I will take them off your hands bud.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 07, 2012, 04:01:20 pm
but compared to pics it looks like kick on right meaning left hand drive?so confused
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 07, 2012, 04:05:59 pm
well i purchased through autoparts which went to fk automotive page link by keano but cant get in touch with them either by phone or email!!! to confirm lhd or rhd .so dilema dont want to sell to tim if rhd as he needs lhd .and want to keep if rhd possibly sell to someone if i get fed up anymore lol
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 07, 2012, 04:09:23 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3428.jpg&hash=91c114e617ed94c99dcbdfec9e3c06099449565f)
the kick is on the right so does that mean its left hand drive?
these lights driving me crazy ,if lhd tim do you still want them?

Not sure if it's just the pic/ angle but the kick up there doesn't seem to be much. But from what I can see, yes it does look like it's kicking up to the right - therefore for LHD cars.

The only way you'll know is to connect one... If you were close enough I could power this off the car to save you the hassle of fitting them and then finding out. Alternatively if you have a PC supply I can talk through what to do...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: DSG-GTI on December 07, 2012, 04:23:19 pm
Ah I stand corrected... thought the deflector was "from" the bottom... LHD they are then. Would still be good to see the pattern, Can you not just put a std H7 bulb in and attach a couple of wire to a battery... simples  :wink: How far are you from me... I have a couple of fully charged 079 Battery's in the garage... 5 min job...

You have PM...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 07, 2012, 07:39:34 pm
The definitely look like lhd to me
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 12:14:10 am
Well they arrived yesterday around 1pm and was too busy to get a chance to get any pictures up but they are looking good so far.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F8A219D40-FBEA-451E-9E4A-A5E6E9546203-18310-000016C639D050E3.jpg&hash=acef79470dea64451189cc630d7db1c5ba8ef9a2)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F0513F2D7-098F-48A9-9896-52C43619950B-18310-000016C641F41023.jpg&hash=a413b62845cbad23e2491fbde4856454c3f7fbf4)

Kick up on the left.Hopefully where it needs to be.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F0C31B8D4-21C1-4E82-BA11-10DA777DF485-18310-000016C64D82CE5E.jpg&hash=fc967d33f4ceb9c2af32e12275fdc9f13a62e473)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F58753DC5-842B-4E48-8F44-BCA7ADD0A460-18310-000016C647DB5897.jpg&hash=33fe963a53d22f89b8a686438f31c80136c24bc2)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F8C24BD18-E783-40FA-8D7F-4B662B0203CE-18310-000016C816023EBB.jpg&hash=01f5b9813ce1f0dbbc3b0f84fec05a01ff4c256d)

Not sure when ill get a chance to fit them and get them adjusted properly.Hopefully this week.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 08, 2012, 01:07:33 am
are these the ones from ebay?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 01:31:21 am
are these the ones from ebay?
yes they are. £217.90 delivered next day. Only 2 sets left. Sure to go up in price once restocked I reckon.
Have pm'd you back the link  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 08, 2012, 02:33:21 am
bought a set second time LOL i suppose i did my christmas good dooing .took the fall DONT BUY FK AUTOMOTIVE THEY ARE LHD LOL might be cheaper but wrong ones with no switch /lever. took a hit but pm members who were interested for discounted wrong buy lhd lights .
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 08, 2012, 09:36:40 am
Well they arrived yesterday around 1pm and was too busy to get a chance to get any pictures up but they are looking good so far.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F8A219D40-FBEA-451E-9E4A-A5E6E9546203-18310-000016C639D050E3.jpg&hash=acef79470dea64451189cc630d7db1c5ba8ef9a2)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F0513F2D7-098F-48A9-9896-52C43619950B-18310-000016C641F41023.jpg&hash=a413b62845cbad23e2491fbde4856454c3f7fbf4)

Kick up on the left.Hopefully where it needs to be.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F0C31B8D4-21C1-4E82-BA11-10DA777DF485-18310-000016C64D82CE5E.jpg&hash=fc967d33f4ceb9c2af32e12275fdc9f13a62e473)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F58753DC5-842B-4E48-8F44-BCA7ADD0A460-18310-000016C647DB5897.jpg&hash=33fe963a53d22f89b8a686438f31c80136c24bc2)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2F8C24BD18-E783-40FA-8D7F-4B662B0203CE-18310-000016C816023EBB.jpg&hash=01f5b9813ce1f0dbbc3b0f84fec05a01ff4c256d)

Not sure when ill get a chance to fit them and get them adjusted properly.Hopefully this week.

That's the right part number out of the depo catalogue for RHD!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 09:39:24 am
Was hoping someone would confirm.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Squeeguk on December 08, 2012, 09:44:28 am
Definitely RHD. The SABS approved logo is a total give away. SABS is the South African Bureau of Standards, and South Africa being RHD, there you go.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 08, 2012, 09:55:28 am
Just place my order for them. Was just waiting for the RHD confirmation!

Only 1 set left
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 08, 2012, 10:07:53 am
Mo, the kick up to the left is right...Defo RHD these.

For future reference, this is what the lever and mechanism in headlights looks like:

This sits in front of the bulb and behind the projector: notice quite clearly the kick up to the left...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi321.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn370%2Fjaanse%2Fd820bf61fe6fc6b2b04f0ca629b22a27.jpg&hash=7b4fc214b35dac024bf698a0a37979ad862c5a95)

Most OEM headlights which have a lever are able to neutralise the kick to flat, like this:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi321.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn370%2Fjaanse%2F9a86c04df0ed85459b432e71f585e783.jpg&hash=a5fadb4710247a4f38b187cba4d54b37e29318f9)

In aftermarket lights, it's often kick up left or kick up right, rather than neutral.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 08, 2012, 10:12:38 am
If you can remove it surely you can just flip it over then?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: GTI_UK on December 08, 2012, 10:47:34 am
If you can remove it surely you can just flip it over then?

I doubt it. The plate isn't flat, there are bits sticking out which wouldn't fit in the right place if flipped around.

If you have spare 'shields' then yes you could swap them over
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 05:29:33 pm
Well managed to find time today to install them.Took just over an hour to single handedly get them in and aligned to the body work correctly. Rushed out to a friend of a friends garage to get them aligned and heres the results.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv236%2Fmodiddy%2FProjectorlights-1.jpg&hash=3184fcc947d8a7e4d02daacc1d5654d0f03d40de)

Took about a min to set the beam and best of all he didnt even charge me a penny.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 08, 2012, 06:02:43 pm
Looks good! What are you using in them?  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 06:09:15 pm
Looks good! What are you using in them?  :happy2:

Using these bulbs at the moment
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTEC-H7-55w-SUPER-WHITE-HID-XENON-CLASS-UPGRADE-BULBS-/270784981733?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f0c0aeae5
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 08, 2012, 06:24:21 pm
Where are the sidelights on these?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 06:39:54 pm
Where are the sidelights on these?
The flash shows the whole of the bottom edge as orange but the side lights are located on the outside edge of each light under the projector lense.
Very pleased with these lights so far.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 08, 2012, 06:43:55 pm
Looks good! What are you using in them?  :happy2:

Using these bulbs at the moment
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTEC-H7-55w-SUPER-WHITE-HID-XENON-CLASS-UPGRADE-BULBS-/270784981733?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f0c0aeae5

I have these in my current lights and they are pretty good. I think all of the lights from the seller have sold now
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 06:53:38 pm
Not surprised if im honest. Hopefully he will get more in stock soon.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 08, 2012, 07:00:27 pm
Whats the light output with the mtecs compared to your old lights? Any worse?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 08, 2012, 07:18:21 pm
havent had chance to compare properly since getting them aligned.Will see how they compare when i pop out in a bit.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 08, 2012, 11:14:07 pm
I'm going to be putting osram silvertecs for the indicators, bright LEDs sidelights, osram super brights (65w) and yellow tinted full beam bulbs. Can't wait - fit it with my newly smoothed and colour coded GT grill. And see if I can get an ed30 lower spoiler too.

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 09, 2012, 12:12:40 am
what do they do to aligned  them?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 09, 2012, 12:21:04 am
He set the headlight leveller in the car to 0, then there are 2 allen/phillips screws on the top of each light unit.He just turned those to set the beam to the right height on his beam setter.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 09, 2012, 12:43:12 am
cool hopfully fingers crossed get mine next week
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 09, 2012, 12:42:38 pm
Me too!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: swedishfireball on December 09, 2012, 01:39:36 pm
Sorry to be a pest but could someone post a link to where they got their RHD with the stock looking projectors? Ta!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 09, 2012, 02:33:24 pm
http://bit.ly/STOjqi
they are out of stock now
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 10, 2012, 04:59:50 pm
Woohoo - just got a text saying mine will be delivered tomorrow! :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 10, 2012, 05:04:46 pm
good stuff  :congrats:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 10, 2012, 05:16:46 pm
 :laugh: Bet your looking forward to it!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 11, 2012, 09:36:20 am
Think they should look pretty smart on a jetta
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 11, 2012, 09:53:44 am
yep mine are here this lunch time yippee .theres a link from seller to track delivery time to the hour very good !!!are u gonna fit soon ?polo
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 11, 2012, 01:32:07 pm
I think i know who bought the last set.....

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fg477%2FBuryFan1%2F825E00A7-5E29-415E-AE90-399E4AA8091B-474-00000023767A98D6.jpg&hash=04964577db4e405c9b1e229bea684f8c6e1512f2)

 :wink:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 11, 2012, 01:36:58 pm
i got 2nd last set lol gonna fit on thursday , with my extreme white bulbs :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 11, 2012, 02:29:06 pm
i got 2nd last set lol gonna fit on thursday , with my extreme white bulbs :)

Good stuff guys. Are any of you going to go the hid route ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 11, 2012, 02:34:39 pm
i got 2nd last set lol gonna fit on thursday , with my extreme white bulbs :)

Good stuff guys. Are any of you going to go the hid route ?

Im sticking with my mtecs for normal headlights then osram nightbreakers for main beams i think. I dont do alot of night driving but if i do its on lit motorways or country roads so need better visability. If light output is rubbish i might consider them!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 11, 2012, 04:15:23 pm
Am i right in thinking these are all gone?

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 11, 2012, 04:17:06 pm
Am i right in thinking these are all gone?



Yep! They may have more in stock soon though but who knows!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 11, 2012, 04:41:43 pm
Mo, the kick up to the left is right...Defo RHD these.

For future reference, this is what the lever and mechanism in headlights looks like:

This sits in front of the bulb and behind the projector: notice quite clearly the kick up to the left...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi321.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn370%2Fjaanse%2Fd820bf61fe6fc6b2b04f0ca629b22a27.jpg&hash=7b4fc214b35dac024bf698a0a37979ad862c5a95)

Most OEM headlights which have a lever are able to neutralise the kick to flat, like this:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi321.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn370%2Fjaanse%2F9a86c04df0ed85459b432e71f585e783.jpg&hash=a5fadb4710247a4f38b187cba4d54b37e29318f9)

In aftermarket lights, it's often kick up left or kick up right, rather than neutral.

Hope this helps.
Have only just seen this. Thanks. Very useful info there.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 11, 2012, 07:21:14 pm
I got the 2nd last set! ;)

And I thought it safest to send them to my parents as they are always in. Mum had a doctors appointment and they missed the delivered -  :popcornsoda:

Tomorrow now - I hope!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 11, 2012, 07:23:48 pm
Yeah the kick is in the left side same as yours meaning right hand drive , wonder if keano relizes his are left hand drive ( may not have dazzled anyone yet but not road legal ! If driving with lhd headlights ?)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on December 11, 2012, 07:25:13 pm
Oh yeh mines was 3 rd last as when purchased still 2 left I think , as long as u guys got a set lol some missed the cut !
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 12, 2012, 01:14:23 pm
Woohoo - just got a text - my parcel has been delivered. Will get them fitted tomorrow morning - fingers crossed!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 12, 2012, 02:11:41 pm
Dont forget to align them to your body work when you fit these.The adjustment is in the big nuts on the mounting clips.When i did mine i just unclipped the grill and the top and sides of the bumper as well as the bottom wheel arch screws. If you have a second pair of hands may be quicker to just completely remove the bumper.  :grouphug:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: chrisr763 on December 12, 2012, 02:12:48 pm
Woohoo - just got a text - my parcel has been delivered. Will get them fitted tomorrow morning - fingers crossed!


 :happy2: Get some Photo's up of them fitting/fitted
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: thegolfather on December 13, 2012, 01:24:01 am
looking forward to feedback. what bulbs/HID are you going for?
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Post by: red6688 on December 13, 2012, 03:32:03 pm
finally fitted depo xenon look lights with phillips h7 extreme white bulbs .a little bit of misting but outside is -4 degrees and instructions says condensation occurs in a vehicle lamp because the materials inside the lamp absorb moisture from the atmosphere.when the lamp is turned on the temperature of the lamp increases,which generates thermal convection .the warm air encounters the lower temp, that causes misting.therefore the mist is a normal effect when the inner and outer of the car light has different temp.once these balance out the misting will decrease . why did i not do this yesterday lol at least it wasnt snowing i guess ,the COVERS are on back in the garage for winter ,and role on wifes car fiat 500 lol
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3461.jpg&hash=2d237c018ec0ed93fea2dca603e56ab6ccb0fd8d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3463.jpg&hash=8bd8c90eef215e0d866bbc9d333acd7be160d89b)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw381%2Fred6688%2FIMG_3462.jpg&hash=e9dab7ffeaba47961857be9b1b24d5d78ddf5e51)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 13, 2012, 04:24:02 pm
^^^ looks awesome! Easy job?
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Post by: winrya on December 13, 2012, 04:40:24 pm
^^^ looks awesome! Easy job?

Yea echo both comments :laugh:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 13, 2012, 05:58:31 pm
Got mine done this morning (need to tweak them a good bit to make them sit better)

Looks good though!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb58%2Fmrdubstyle%2F34FD3631-FCB1-4F0F-876B-F6736F0D75A4-21933-0000198D05B71A91.jpg&hash=df7cd743f4b916c6aa82ab3c921b71f70b6f3639)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb58%2Fmrdubstyle%2F81A29FBA-D106-4AEF-8817-328D8B118FA4-21933-0000198D0BB19BB5.jpg&hash=93160207801c666fdd8627ddf22ecfc60c8ab55f)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb58%2Fmrdubstyle%2F6466B9A5-C1A6-462E-8BB8-A0A1150FA9A2-21933-0000198D0FA881C3.jpg&hash=b15f11934550095c5b2ac550ff350155463f13cd)

Upgrade bulbs on the way too
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 13, 2012, 10:14:24 pm
Just been out for a drive - they are better than std lamps and mine still need adjusted and the alignment sorted!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 14, 2012, 12:51:15 pm
Re-aligned with bodywork property - actually took longer to do this than it did to fit them yesterday - Lense alignment is being sorted tomorrow
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 14, 2012, 01:16:25 pm
Re-aligned with bodywork property - actually took longer to do this than it did to fit them yesterday - Lense alignment is being sorted tomorrow

Can well believe that.Took me 1 hour 15 mins to swap my lights out and allign them both on my own.Youl probably fine you just need minimal adjustment if any for the beam to be set up.
Happy with mine although i think they will difinately benefit from a HID kit.
Will buy one in the new year and fit. The same kit a fellow member has fitted to his Octavia for the last 3 years without issue.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 14, 2012, 05:43:50 pm
Still think they sit to close to the bodywork, may need to look at them over the weekend. I just dropped down the top of the bumper and did it in about 40 minutes. I'm going to be running the osram super brights in the dipped beam & yellow 100W bulbs in the full beam - along with orange sidelights! ;)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: DSG-GTI on December 28, 2012, 07:32:11 am
Lights are looking well boys .... Did anyone do a pattern test against a flat surface to see the shape of the cut off and general light pattern, Are they as good as or better than the std units with H7 bulbs... they do look the part though  :smiley:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Shabba168 on December 28, 2012, 09:45:13 am
http://www.trupart.co.uk/trupart/appguide/webframe.htm

Have a look on here under lighting and performance lighting
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: DSG-GTI on December 28, 2012, 10:46:30 am
 /\/\/\/\/\ Are they just suppliers to the trade bud ...

Earlier in the thread the question was asked if these were any good at lighting up the road compared to a std light unit, These are projector lights that use a std H7 bulb not the genuine xenon unit... although they do look very nice I just wondered what the light output was like.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Shabba168 on December 28, 2012, 11:04:39 am
Umm yeah maybe. We deal with them for a few bits.

They do the Ds2 units for proper xenon then you need the adaptor loom
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on December 29, 2012, 06:46:39 pm
Pattern is fine, took them to a local garage to get them checked. Beam pattern adjustment was miles out!!

I would say they are fine with the stud bulbs, however I would suggest a bulb upgrade - maybe 80w or 100w?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 29, 2012, 07:06:58 pm
Mtec do a 100w version.... tempting! I really should get them fitted!  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 29, 2012, 07:11:44 pm
Mtec do a 100w version.... tempting! I really should get them fitted!  :happy2:

Aren't there issues with electrics when running 100w bulbs ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 29, 2012, 07:14:03 pm
No idea! Iv got the "normal" mtecs
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: scottlloyd90 on January 02, 2013, 09:33:23 pm
I can not find any of these lights for less than £300 any where. Can anyone put me in the right direction?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on January 06, 2013, 06:47:20 pm
With orange 501 sidelights fitted

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb58%2Fmrdubstyle%2F806ba77d6b26af2391978b2b6e92fa38.jpg&hash=f3d554fe456b4fadd9858250d0ed322c7bed35b5)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on January 06, 2013, 08:28:40 pm
With orange 501 sidelights fitted

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb58%2Fmrdubstyle%2F806ba77d6b26af2391978b2b6e92fa38.jpg&hash=f3d554fe456b4fadd9858250d0ed322c7bed35b5)

they look spot on  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on January 08, 2013, 02:54:06 pm
Im still waiting for my Osram Superbrights for the dipped and full beam - they are 65W and should make a big difference to the output
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: vaheedakhtar on January 11, 2013, 12:14:50 am

Lads, does anyone have any info on when these will be back in stock with Energized Customs?

Cheers.

Also, does anyone have any fitting instructions?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 11, 2013, 12:24:26 am

Lads, does anyone have any info on when these will be back in stock with Energized Customs?

Cheers.

Also, does anyone have any fitting instructions?
Remove grill and undo bumper bolts at the top and in the wheel arches to gain access.
The new lights are plug and play so just take out your old headlamps and replace with the new ones. All of your old bulbs swap over from your old lights except the indicator bulbs which are already fitted in the new light unit. You will just need to align the new light units to the bodywork using the bolts on the fitting lugs so the space around the lights is even.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: vaheedakhtar on January 11, 2013, 12:49:35 am

Lads, does anyone have any info on when these will be back in stock with Energized Customs?

Cheers.

Also, does anyone have any fitting instructions?
Remove grill and undo bumper bolts at the top and in the wheel arches to gain access.
The new lights are plug and play so just take out your old headlamps and replace with the new ones. All of your old bulbs swap over from your old lights except the indicator bulbs which are already fitted in the new light unit. You will just need to align the new light units to the bodywork using the bolts on the fitting lugs so the space around the lights is even.

Thanks. I've sent the seller text message - let's see what he/she says. I'm surprised that the people who have upgraded, thus far, have just stuck to brighter H7 bulbs, rather than go for the whole hog Bi-Xenon look. 
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Post by: mo on January 11, 2013, 01:09:39 am
Funny you should say that. My 5000k hid kit arrived today. Will fit over the weekend.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on January 11, 2013, 06:35:24 am
I've just put a 50w hid kit in mine to upgrade the 35w kit. Awesome :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 11, 2013, 02:07:20 pm
I've just put a 50w hid kit in mine to upgrade the 35w kit. Awesome :)

Keano, do you have auto lights or coming home lights on your car ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: vaheedakhtar on January 12, 2013, 12:46:27 am
I sent the eBay seller a message last night and, to be honest, have been pretty disappointed with their attitude.

I sent the message at around 9:30pm. Asking when they will have more in stock. He/she responded at about 11:50pm by saying that they were due back in at the end of February. I then asked if they could reserve me a pair, to which they replied "not now, you've already woken me up" - I apologised and said I would contact them in the morning.

So, I replied again, at around lunch time and they then proceeded to tell me they didn't have the setup to reserve anything...to which I responded by asking them to take note of my number and if they could call me then, when they are back in stock. Had no response after that.

These might be a great buy, but the sellers attitude is putting me off from doing any business with them.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on January 12, 2013, 09:21:58 am
^^^ its ebay, not a shop! Just wait until the end of feb and buy a set! They were on ebay for over a week last time and there were only 10 sets.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on January 12, 2013, 10:13:41 am
Have you guys found a new supplier?

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Post by: jameelno1 on January 12, 2013, 04:28:46 pm
I sent the eBay seller a message last night and, to be honest, have been pretty disappointed with their attitude.

I sent the message at around 9:30pm. Asking when they will have more in stock. He/she responded at about 11:50pm by saying that they were due back in at the end of February. I then asked if they could reserve me a pair, to which they replied "not now, you've already woken me up" - I apologised and said I would contact them in the morning.

So, I replied again, at around lunch time and they then proceeded to tell me they didn't have the setup to reserve anything...to which I responded by asking them to take note of my number and if they could call me then, when they are back in stock. Had no response after that.

These might be a great buy, but the sellers attitude is putting me off from doing any business with them.

the guys at energized used to have a shop a few years back  there customer service is not so great but you do get the products
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mtj2k on January 16, 2013, 10:16:04 am
Anyone got any pics with OSRAM's in? just dont fancy them if they look crappy yellow and not HID's either with the new MOT's legislation about levellers and washers! Unless its pretty easy to sway over to H7 bulbs and back again?

Any ideas?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: RedRobin on January 16, 2013, 11:15:17 am

and not HID's either with the new MOT's legislation about levellers and washers! Unless its pretty easy to sway over to H7 bulbs and back again?


....Are you happy to intentionally swop your car back to a spec which you know would fail its MOT?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mtj2k on January 16, 2013, 11:27:58 am

and not HID's either with the new MOT's legislation about levellers and washers! Unless its pretty easy to sway over to H7 bulbs and back again?


....Are you happy to intentionally swop your car back to a spec which you know would fail its MOT?

Correct!

Based on my opinion that this new legislation is to prevent idiots from simply whacking HID kits into standard Halogen reflectors and blinding everyone. As stated here the light pattern with HID's on these projectors is comparable to OEM Xenon's and as long as you manually lower your beams if you ever have a boot full of bodies, don't do offroading and wash the lights once in a while the rest is just overkill.

Just my opinion of course
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Post by: RedRobin on January 16, 2013, 12:10:04 pm

and not HID's either with the new MOT's legislation about levellers and washers! Unless its pretty easy to sway over to H7 bulbs and back again?


....Are you happy to intentionally swop your car back to a spec which you know would fail its MOT?


Correct!

Based on my opinion that this new legislation is to prevent idiots from simply whacking HID kits into standard Halogen reflectors and blinding everyone. As stated here the light pattern with HID's on these projectors is comparable to OEM Xenon's and as long as you manually lower your beams if you ever have a boot full of bodies, don't do offroading and wash the lights once in a while the rest is just overkill.

Just my opinion of course

....Fair enough, mate  :happy2: I trust you don't mind that I challenged you on the subject - At least other readers can be more informed due to your answer.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: RedRobin on January 16, 2013, 03:22:49 pm
.
I just happened to read this in another thread: Quote from PDT............

Official wording is:

" HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system is missing, doesn't work or is obviously defective. Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems. "

So the HID kit itself is road legal as long as you fit a washer system that works in conjunction with your windscreen washers, and fit a self levelling system.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mtj2k on January 16, 2013, 05:19:51 pm
Yeah i know! but have you seen the costs of retrofitting a washer kit(?) and leveller system(€400)? if you have that amount of money you may as well buy the OEM xenon's.

Still think that if you're sensible about aiming and keeping them clean they wont cause anyone any hassle. Definitely no more than a poorly aimed H7

IMO
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: winrya on January 22, 2013, 09:18:26 pm
are these the same as above? RHD, plug and play with normal bulbs? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-UK-RHD-10Pin-Upgrade-Set-/271117221990?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVW%7CModel%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+V&hash=item3f1fd88066
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jameelno1 on January 22, 2013, 10:31:16 pm
are these the same as above? RHD, plug and play with normal bulbs? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-UK-RHD-10Pin-Upgrade-Set-/271117221990?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVW%7CModel%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+V&hash=item3f1fd88066

 plug and play there not oem xenons but xenon style as the ones people in this thead have been buying
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on January 22, 2013, 11:32:57 pm
Has anyone managed to find a new supplier for the FK ones at all?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on January 23, 2013, 07:30:24 am
Look 2 posts behind this one on the other page!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on January 23, 2013, 05:10:11 pm
Look 2 posts behind this one on the other page!

They are considerably higher priced!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: samdem on January 23, 2013, 05:13:51 pm
what does the 10 pin mean? ive seen a 12 pin set aswell im a bit confused..
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on January 23, 2013, 05:18:28 pm
Look 2 posts behind this one on the other page!

They are considerably higher priced!

The FK ones seem to be LHD only though so you will have to pay more for the RHD ones! Or wait and see if that seller on ebay gets any more RHD ones in
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on January 29, 2013, 11:57:04 am
I'm still looking for a good o.e.m. looking xenon headlight set, but hard to find in The Netherlands at the moment...
(also can't find a good 2nd hand o.e.m. xenon headlight pair, so best alternative for me is a original looking h7 xenonlook set)

Still confused about the difference between the brands -> FK & Depo (and Hella, but I know already know they are 100% o.e.m. looking, and more expensive)

Sometimes I see pictures (depo?) where the projector looks smaller:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F21854296%2Fheadlights.png&hash=1aef5c17fd481c5fcfaa6a127469e69ebebecee2)

Is this also in real life, or are all FK and Depo models o.e.m. looking.
Where can I find a good pair, suitable for my Dutch GTI (steering wheel is on te left)?
Can't find them on the German FK site anymore...

Thanks
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 29, 2013, 12:03:58 pm
I'm still looking for a good o.e.m. looking xenon headlight set, but hard to find in The Netherlands at the moment...
(also can't find a good 2nd hand o.e.m. xenon headlight pair, so best alternative for me is a original looking h7 xenonlook set)

Still confused about the difference between the brands -> FK & Depo (and Hella, but I know already know they are 100% o.e.m. looking, and more expensive)

Sometimes I see pictures (depo?) where the projector looks smaller:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F21854296%2Fheadlights.png&hash=1aef5c17fd481c5fcfaa6a127469e69ebebecee2)

Is this also in real life, or are all FK and Depo models o.e.m. looking.
Where can I find a good pair, suitable for my Dutch GTI (steering wheel is on te left)?
Can't find them on the German FK site anymore...

Thanks

Ignore the picture.I have depo and the projector is not small. That is just an error in the reflection on the picture.The ones on the FK site were in fact Depo lights also.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on January 29, 2013, 12:33:48 pm
Thanks 'mo'!
So I understand FK and Depo are 100% identical (and o.e.m. looking).
Do you know where they still sell them (lhd, because I live in The Netherlands) for a good price)?
Has anybody ever compared there FK/Depo's with the Hella ones? Is there a vissible difference?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 29, 2013, 12:47:44 pm
Thanks 'mo'!
So I understand FK and Depo are 100% identical (and o.e.m. looking).
Do you know where they still sell them (lhd, because I live in The Netherlands) for a good price)?
Has anybody ever compared there FK/Depo's with the Hella ones? Is there a vissible difference?


Ive been looking out for oem xenons whilst out driving and cant find any difference in appearance so far.Cheapest ive seen at the moment are from USA.They do post to the netherlands but youd have to ask them how much.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-GTI-LOOK-PROJECTOR-ECode-Headlight-05-09-VW-Jetta-Rabbit-V-Golf-5-DEPO-/150981416434?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23273195f2#shId
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: red6688 on January 30, 2013, 02:10:17 am
Tim I still have fk labelled depo left hand drive lights for sale you never came back to me ? Still in garage make me a offer I can send to you
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on January 30, 2013, 07:30:38 am
I think the lens looking bigger is due to the angle of the photo
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Post by: vaheedakhtar on January 30, 2013, 02:52:41 pm

Right chaps.

After some searching, I've managed to track down some OEM identical RHD ONLY head lamps. They come out at £180 + Postage from the US. The supplier has a contact at Deop and his contact has assured him that these headlights are the correct one's for the UK. 

Also, I've been trying to find a cheaper alternative to the OEM Auto-levelling system and found this:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/561857194/2012_new_auto_leveling_system_for.html

I'm not sure how effective these are - so will post any reviews, if I find some!

If anyone is interested in the Xenon head lamps - then please email me at vaheedakhtar@yahoo.co.uk - I was due to order some last week - but I've decided to get the car remapped and the exhaust work done first.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on January 30, 2013, 04:30:29 pm
You should only need the auto levellers if you are wanting proper xenons, you should be ok without if you are getting xenon look ones?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on January 31, 2013, 03:31:43 pm
Ok decided to go for the xenon look ones, because they are cheaper, new (so no scratche, stone-chips), no hassle with 10-12pin adapters, no vagcom coding, no auto levellers needed, no washers, etc.

Found a store over here in The Netherlands who sells them for a good price (235,- euro)
Found out that all Depo, FK Automotive, Dectane, SWV06DB, are 100% the same (and so, all 100% o.e.m. Looking)

I've seen a picture of these xenonlook headlights and I can see that underneath there is the same recess for a o.e.m. Xenon ballast as with original xenon headlights. Is this true? Is the connector for a o.e.m. ballast also there?
Or do I need to wire a aftermarket hid kit just the way all aftermarket hid kits have to be connected?
I'm asking this because, when I receive these headlights, I maybe connect a hid kit, before placing them. But I want to find out how to wire and place them correctly (because I already fried the wiper motor once, when I placed a 55w hid kit in my stock halogen headlights, common problem).
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 31, 2013, 03:38:04 pm
Tim,
My depos do have the recess underneth but you will have to wire your hid kit as normal drilling a hole into the rear access cover. I used heavy duty double sided tape to stick them to the sides of my lights.
Was your old hid kit one with built in resistors ?
I was recommended a digital slim ballast kit by another member who has been running on his car for 3 years no problems.It doesnt have any resistors on it so shouldnt cause any wiper issues apparently. However you will need to code your car for xenons no shutters which is a 5 min job.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on January 31, 2013, 04:01:29 pm
Thanks 'Mo'.
I used a slim ballast Infinity 55w kit in my stock halogen headlights with those plastic ring xenon adapters for the golf 5 halogen housings (maybe there was the problem, cause they felt dodgy). There was a small black box on every cable, so I guess those where built in resistors for the infinity hid kit. I also activated xenon without shutters with vagcom.
Worked for a out 4 months, then the wiper motor failed...
So I'm not sure if I dare to get a hid kit again.
Maybe I just put Osram Nightbreakers or other 6500k h7 bulbs in my the new xenonlook housings, so they look like xenon, but nothing can go wrong...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 31, 2013, 04:19:30 pm
Do you use coming / leaving home lights ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on January 31, 2013, 04:43:26 pm
Do you use coming / leaving home lights ?

Yes I do...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 31, 2013, 04:51:13 pm
Sorry Tim i meant to say did you use coming / leaving home lights when you had the hid kit fitted ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on January 31, 2013, 04:56:30 pm
Sorry Tim i meant to say did you use coming / leaving home lights when you had the hid kit fitted ?


Yes' I had CH and LH activated (always had, because I like this feature).
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 31, 2013, 05:53:47 pm
Im wondering if this may be an issue. May disable mine in the meanwhile. 
I dont think the small black boxes were resistors they are just the bits that cant fit in the slim ballast.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 02, 2013, 07:39:57 pm
Finally got mine in:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fq739%2FBuryFan12%2F305E2ACB-3C26-40F5-8377-7EDA47F90790-245-0000000F1EF7401A_zps3c1b9c5b.jpg&hash=4dfffe579f66fc6279e4b8065888f3fb0162d529)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fq739%2FBuryFan12%2F4447DC05-C37D-424E-B03E-4463E048C95A-245-0000000EF1526BE8_zps33e5c3a7.jpg&hash=1d514db9490d0298d369d2704b989e82f123969a)

My brother has bullied me into fitting a 35w HID kit into them. Why does the wiper motor fry if you have HIDs? Will i have any problems? Iv also not changed any coding?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 02, 2013, 07:52:04 pm
And what sidelight bulbs are people using? My current ones are pants!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 02, 2013, 09:37:06 pm
Apparently the lights and the wipers share a common power feed.When you use hid's with capacitors on them any excess voltage stored /created by the capacitors (not entirely sure which) but this voltage ends up frying the wipers.
I have a standard 35w non canbus friendly digital set of hid's and have coded my car for xenons no shutters.Seems to work fine so far but will update of any changes or fried wipers.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 02, 2013, 09:40:20 pm
I think mine may be canbus friendly but i will have a go at coding them in aswell
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 02, 2013, 10:19:38 pm
If yours has capacitors coding will not prevent any damage to your wipers unfortunately.Unless you have the removable type of capacitors.
like these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-HID-Xenon-Canbus-Warning-Light-Error-Canceller-set-/330803508480?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d056cf500 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-HID-Xenon-Canbus-Warning-Light-Error-Canceller-set-/330803508480?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d056cf500)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 03, 2013, 08:40:01 pm
I fried my wipermotor with a 55w infinity h7 hid set (this set didn't have capacitors and I coded vcds xenon without shutters). Worked perfect for +/- 4 months, them wiper motor suddenly failed..
This week I finally receive my FK xenon style headlights, but still not sure to fit a hid kit or just out 6500k H7 bulbs (like osram nightbreakers) in...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: apples12 on February 03, 2013, 11:08:13 pm
fried two wiper motors until some research led me to discover it could be the ballasts i was using with the hella celis headlights sitting on top of my wardrobe! it is possible to retrofit OEM ballasts and bulbs into the wiring that way you know you've got a good set of bulbs and ballasts...

just got to get hold of a pair of ballasts and bulbs and figure out the +ve/-ve feeds and bobs your uncle. i had it on mine for a short while. www.hidplanet.com thats where you'll find many pinouts.

i'd highly recommend staying away from the cheapo ballasts.

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 04, 2013, 01:49:38 pm
Received my Depo xenonlook headlights today (The Netherlands).
It was very well packaged (double boxed).
Quality is excellent! Looks like o.e.m.
I am very pleased with them and I am glad I decided to buy these new headlights in stead of second hand o.e.m. xenons (looking at price, the fact that they are new. Unscratched, etc.)

Still not sure if I'm going to install a hid kit to them, before installing them (next weekend)...
Looking at the recess on them bottom (the place where the o.e.m. ballast also goes when you have factory xenons), it looks like a good place to install an aftermarket slim hid ballast. You can also drill al hole there and feed the wires from the ballast into the housing/h7 xenon bulb, using a robber grommet. Thus you don't need do drill a hole in the plastic round cap on the back of the housing.
(see picture 4)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/4.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/5.jpg)

Who can give me link to a aftermarket 35w hid kit that 100% won't fry my wiper motor (again...)?

This is the 55w infinity kit I custom made in 2011. I used it in the stock halogen gti headlights. Worked for about 4 months, then it killed the wiper motor (I've thrown this hid kit away immediately).
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/6.jpg)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 04, 2013, 02:43:41 pm
fried two wiper motors until some research led me to discover it could be the ballasts i was using with the hella celis headlights sitting on top of my wardrobe! it is possible to retrofit OEM ballasts and bulbs into the wiring that way you know you've got a good set of bulbs and ballasts...

just got to get hold of a pair of ballasts and bulbs and figure out the +ve/-ve feeds and bobs your uncle. i had it on mine for a short while. www.hidplanet.com thats where you'll find many pinouts.

i'd highly recommend staying away from the cheapo ballasts.



hmm, this could be an idea.
Would need some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-to-D2S-D2R-Adapters-for-Philips-Osram-Xenon-HID-Bulb-/270354512667 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-to-D2S-D2R-Adapters-for-Philips-Osram-Xenon-HID-Bulb-/270354512667)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 04, 2013, 04:24:45 pm
Oh and three questions for the ones who recently installed their xenonlook headlights:

- Do I need to adjust the two nuts on the headlights for correct fitment? (see foto!)
- Is it enough to just slide the bumper a little forward, or do I need to remove the whole bumper?
- Are these all concerning bolts, or is there more involved? ->
(ECS movie)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/7.jpg)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 04, 2013, 04:30:49 pm
Iv just fitted these this weekend. We took my bumper off, very easy to do. I adjusted those nuts highlighted to match the headlights i was taking off and they fit well.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 04, 2013, 04:33:44 pm
yes you need to used those bolts to align the lights to your bodywork/wings. I just undid all of the top and side screws and pulled the bumper forward.If there are 2 of you you may aswell take the whole bumper off.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 04, 2013, 05:00:01 pm
Going to code in the hids / xenons no shutters tonight
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 04, 2013, 07:34:42 pm
Do you just code in xenon without shutters and is that it?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on February 04, 2013, 07:44:48 pm
Still want a set of these... Where has them in stock RHD?

 :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 04, 2013, 07:45:08 pm
Do you just code in xenon without shutters and is that it?
Thats what i did. I also turned off cold test in main beam which i think i didnt need to do. Will turn it back on at some point and check.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 04, 2013, 07:47:45 pm
Do you just code in xenon without shutters and is that it?

Yes that's all.
But this doesn't guarantee that wiper motor won't fail...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: JoeDarKa on February 04, 2013, 07:51:28 pm
Thanks guys
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 04, 2013, 08:08:45 pm
Do you just code in xenon without shutters and is that it?

Yes that's all.
But this doesn't guarantee that wiper motor won't fail...
yes it's all down to the ballast you have that determines if your wiper dies or not.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mtj2k on February 05, 2013, 01:03:38 pm
Can anyone suggest a decent kit that could be used with headlights to prevent the wiper issue?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: keano on February 05, 2013, 01:14:22 pm
Can anyone suggest a decent kit that could be used with headlights to prevent the wiper issue?

HIDS direct. The 50W kit. Never had an issue in 4 years.

Ring and make sure they send the extra canbus relay.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mtj2k on February 05, 2013, 03:01:37 pm
Can anyone suggest a decent kit that could be used with headlights to prevent the wiper issue?

HIDS direct. The 50W kit. Never had an issue in 4 years.

Ring and make sure they send the extra canbus relay.

http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-50w-single-beam-canbus-hid-kits/ (http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-50w-single-beam-canbus-hid-kits/)
^^ these ones?  :scared:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on February 05, 2013, 03:09:12 pm
Still want a set of these... Where has them in stock RHD?

 :happy2:


Anyone? :(
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 05, 2013, 03:17:31 pm
Still want a set of these... Where has them in stock RHD?

 :happy2:


Anyone? :(


These are cheapest at the mo
http://bit.ly/XePGB9
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: chrisr763 on February 05, 2013, 04:17:32 pm
Still want a set of these... Where has them in stock RHD?

 :happy2:


Anyone? :(


Thanks, at £155 like page 1 of this threasd i think id buy...  :ashamed:

These are cheapest at the mo
http://bit.ly/XePGB9
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 05, 2013, 04:34:49 pm
Still want a set of these... Where has them in stock RHD?

 :happy2:


Anyone? :(


Thanks, at £155 like page 1 of this threasd i think id buy...  :ashamed:

These are cheapest at the mo
http://bit.ly/XePGB9

Doubt your gonna get those at that price.The second or third post mentioned the price went up to £181 and they turned out to be LHD units anyway.
I payed around £217 RHD delivered for mine end of last year. aim for that but you may be waiting a while.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 05, 2013, 05:06:53 pm
I paid 200 pound (230 euro's) for my lhd, delivered.
I think that's a good price for them and don't think you will find them for 155 again...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on February 05, 2013, 05:53:50 pm
We ain't gonna see em as low as they were when this post originated again I know that much!

250 odd aint bad, I reckon they will come up nearer the 200 mark again tho - or so i'm hoping!!!  :happy2:
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Post by: red6688 on February 06, 2013, 01:48:46 am
Ohh that's a good price ,I would have sold you my lhd brand new ones delivered for £150 :(
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 06, 2013, 03:48:42 pm
I am in the process of getting a group buy approved for maximum 20 sets of xenon look headlights by DEPO for £235 delivered each.

I will let you know when its up. Got wind of the shipment from a friend so I kindly asked him to dibs the stock for us as I know how popular they are and tough to get at a good price!

Will be paypal gift payment, expect shipment to arrive and ready for posting out in start of march.

First come first served so keep your eyes peeled!

Cheers, Omar
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Post by: JoeDarKa on February 06, 2013, 05:45:50 pm
^^^ Good deal that  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 06, 2013, 05:56:38 pm
^^^ Good deal that  :happy2:

 :smiley:

Just waiting on a reply from SteveP to give the green light before I set it up and the frenzy begins!!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 06, 2013, 08:19:50 pm
Connected the headlight to a 12v source to determine if I'm going to use a H7 xenonlook bulb (I tested A dectane x.ray h7 bulb) or if I'm going to install a 5000K hid kit before installing the whole units in the car (still don't know what hid kit to go for, because I had one before that killed my wiper motor, SUGGESTIONS?).

The projector headlight looks good with the 'ultra white' h7 bulb, but I think real xenon will look better.
I've noticed that behind the projector/behind the chrome ring there is some 'semi-transparant-blackish' plastic where the light also shines through. Is this normal? Is this also with the o.e.m. headlights?
See pic I've made:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/foto.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/foto1.JPG)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 06, 2013, 09:55:21 pm
Yes its normal. Last night i Had my car next to one with oem xenons and they are identicle. Only dfference was mine with the hid kit are less yellow / whiter  than oem xenons.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on February 06, 2013, 10:43:03 pm
I am in the process of getting a group buy approved for maximum 20 sets of xenon look headlights by DEPO for £235 delivered each.

I will let you know when its up. Got wind of the shipment from a friend so I kindly asked him to dibs the stock for us as I know how popular they are and tough to get at a good price!

Will be paypal gift payment, expect shipment to arrive and ready for posting out in start of march.

First come first served so keep your eyes peeled!

Cheers, Omar


Great stuff mate!!

I will keep my eyes peeled for this but if I happen to miss it and you remember please do give me a shout as I 100% will be in on this!  :happy2:
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Post by: omeydz on February 06, 2013, 11:44:12 pm
Will do!  :happy2:

If I dont get a reply from SteveP by end of thursday then Ill set up the group buy in the "Group buy" section and let everyone get their names down as its really limited stock.

Will not take any payments till the group buy has the green light by SteveP, our admin. ( Steve if your reading this please check your PMs, all the group buy details there mate  :smiley: )

This will give members more time to make their decisions and get funds together in time for end of the month.

Will put up posts when Iv set it all up and make it clear so noone misses the party!  :party:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 07, 2013, 10:36:13 pm
Group buy is up and live!

Get your names down soon as you can.

Only change iv had to make is the price +£5 increase to counter fees a bit as im only allowed to take standard payments apparently. PM me regarding payment once your names is down please  :happy2:

Heres the link:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,61320.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,61320.0.html)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: will_15 on February 08, 2013, 01:37:54 pm
All over this.

Is anyone who is running them with standard H7 bulbs (preferably MTEC for direct comparison) able to comment on the light output and night visibility versus standard GTI non-xenon lights? Any better or worse?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 08, 2013, 07:58:20 pm
8 sets have been taken,  12 to go...

At this rate, will be sold out before next week!!  :surprised:

Get in on this everyone who is still rocking the stock halogen reflector headlights!!!

Why have this:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimganuncios.mitula.net%2Fvw_golf_mk5_gti_diamond_black_pearl_96635405944572210.jpg&hash=d98491cfb74f569028b66a1698a839cfeceed22f)

.. when you could have this for £240!!! :
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gildergroup.co.uk%2Fusedcars%2FR44RPG1.jpg&hash=5981b5c660fd96f7a8e197a7baa3ee9809043aa7)

 :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Conrad on February 08, 2013, 10:20:27 pm
I've got the hellas with mtecs and I'm not even bothering with a hid kit found them plenty bright enough.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: chigmuss on February 09, 2013, 07:23:25 am
I've got the hellas with mtecs and I'm not even bothering with a hid kit found them plenty bright enough.
I'd second that, MTEC's are great upgrade. I'm throwing the money at a Milltek I reckon.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Squeeguk on February 09, 2013, 11:14:16 am
Which Mtec's are you guys talking about, because I just bought some Mtec Super White bulbs and am very disappointed with their performance. I found the Osram Nightbreaker's I have on my Jetta to be far better as far as light output is concerned.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Conrad on February 09, 2013, 11:32:59 am
Got them from hids direct on eBay the 4,350k 100w ones here's a picture not the best but some idea

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fa535%2FImconrad%2F20130118_172537_zps1913439d.jpg&hash=07a66114af06b7a5d5de281c99687b307e844ae2)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Squeeguk on February 09, 2013, 11:41:42 am
From my understanding, I was lead to believe that 100W bulbs in a road car are illegal!!!! Is this not the case? I was under the impression that 55W are the max you can use on road. I must also add that I am only using these as full beam on my cars as both have xenon's.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Conrad on February 09, 2013, 11:50:51 am
Yeah I think your right there the 55-100w ones I don't understand what the packaging means though but they aren't dazzling at all look completely Oem in the projectors I very rarely use the full beam but I have them in there as well and they are also very bright. These are the ones.www.hids-direct.co.uk/mtec-h7-12v-55w-super-white-hid-class-upgrade-bulbs/  I've just noticed they also have 100w ones producing 160w or 170w by the looks of the packaging
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 09, 2013, 12:14:02 pm
Another opinion here

I had some mtec 4350k in my standard lights and found the output a bit not as good as halfords ultra brilliance.
Again in the projectors the mtecs were bright enough to look at but on the road they didn't light up as well as id hoped or indeed the ultra brilliance bulbs.  

Heres the hid kit i have in mine.
http://bit.ly/NbyXNG

The hids outperform the lot and cost less than the ultra brilliance too. These are non canbus 35w and were recommended by a forum member who has run them for over 3 years without issue.

Edit
Just to add I went for 5000k.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 10, 2013, 01:34:17 pm
10 sets of the DEPO xenon look lights gone, 10 left! £240 each set.

Get in on this!

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,61320.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,61320.0.html)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Killinator on February 11, 2013, 12:35:25 pm
Just so I'm not confused,
If one chooses, they could just run their original halogen bulbs with these headlights?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 11, 2013, 12:38:38 pm
Just so I'm not confused,
If one chooses, they could just run their original halogen bulbs with these headlights?

Yep you can use the same bulbs from your stock lights and fit these xenon look lamps and away you go if thats what you want to do.

Lots of people opt to do just that, or use xenon blue bulbs like nightbreakers etc, or a HID kit.

So lots of options your open to, the choice is yours once you have the headlights  :happy2:

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Killinator on February 11, 2013, 03:10:29 pm
Cheers mate.
These seem perfect :laugh:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on February 11, 2013, 03:23:57 pm
Another opinion here

I had some mtec 4350k in my standard lights and found the output a bit not as good as halfords ultra brilliance.
Again in the projectors the mtecs were bright enough to look at but on the road they didn't light up as well as id hoped or indeed the ultra brilliance bulbs.  

Heres the hid kit i have in mine.
http://bit.ly/NbyXNG

The hids outperform the lot and cost less than the ultra brilliance too. These are non canbus 35w and were recommended by a forum member who has run them for over 3 years without issue.

Edit
Just to add I went for 5000k.

I've never used a HID kit, but am interested as I'm getting a set of these headlights, so have a few questions.

Regarding fitting (HID kit) is it just plug an play?

Do they throw up faults being non canbus? What coding needs doing?

Thanks
Kalpesh
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 11, 2013, 05:11:31 pm
It all depends on the HID kit you buy but has to be H7 bulb type and 55w kit to be on the safe side and OEM is 55w also. OEM colour is 4300 to 4500k

It will have to be canbus compatible otherwise you will get bulb-out warning and the HIDs wont ignite or flicker a lot etc. No coding is required for aftermarket HIDs usually as they are meant to be as plug n play as possible (as not everyone has diagnostics kit to hand)

Hope that helps :)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: omeydz on February 14, 2013, 04:46:52 pm
8 sets left in the xenon look group buy!!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 16, 2013, 06:52:44 am
Guys,
I've installed my Depo xenonlook headlights last week (LHD, The Netherlands).
They look great! Just like o.e.m.
I've also bought and installed a quality 5000K canbus xenon kit and it works great (no faultcodes/flickering/no need to code with vcds, starts up every time, etc.).

Only problem is I received 5000K H7R bulbs, and we need H7 bulbs for our projectors (H7r is specific for reflector housings, there is a small anti-glare strip on the bulb). I think this causes two ground shadows in my projector headlights, so I'm going to send them back and swap them for normal 5000K xenon H7 bulbs. The ground shadow problem could also be due to the 'ground return wire' on the bulbs, which is located on the wrong side on our FK/Depo headlights -> Ground return wire is on 12 o'clock, while in o.e.m. projectors it's on 6 o'clock.

I've also tried stock halogen bulbs in them, to see how the light pattern would look like.
I notice that the light pattern in front of the car isn't 'evenly illuminated', like I see on other cars.
How comes? Is this normal? Have you guys also noticed this with these xenonlook headlights?

Here's a picture, above with halogen h7 bulbs and beneath with 5000k h7r xenon bulbs
(sorry for bad quality, but you can see what I mean. remember it's lhd):
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F21854296%2FKoplampen%2Flight%2520pattern.JPG&hash=041ecfb275a5ed9e878bd420e0ccee7abeb268bc)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 18, 2013, 02:11:05 pm
Nobody else with pictures / explanation of their beam pattern?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 19, 2013, 03:41:14 pm
Come on guys!? Nobody else who can say or show (photo) something about their beam pattern with Depo/FK/Hella xenonlook headlights (with or without xenon hid kit)?
Within two days I will receive normal 5000K H7 xenon bulbs, so I can swap them with my H7r bulbs, hoping it will give me a evenly spread beam, without dark spots...
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 19, 2013, 05:21:09 pm
My beam pattern is similar and i have H7 bulbs.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 19, 2013, 06:43:37 pm
My beam pattern is similar and i have H7 bulbs.

Thanks. So you have the same shadow-stripes?
If so, it must be the ground return wire on the bulbs. It's in the wrong location.
Maybe we can do the ' 6 o'clock mod '?:
Example with a plastic socket (I have a steel socket)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fallanskimd2003%2F2011_Hyundai_Sonata_GLS_198hp%2F273619Capturer_zps35f11ca2.jpg&hash=a2f64fca4f2abaa2e14290975268077498aac6f2)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 19, 2013, 06:50:46 pm
mines steel too. Not sure how to go about chopping it up tho.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 19, 2013, 06:53:10 pm
mines steel too. Not sure how to go about chopping it up tho.

Using a dremel?
Google '6 o'clock xenon mod'.
I' 80% sure this solves the weird beam pattern on these headlights.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 19, 2013, 06:58:51 pm
Just did,
wondering if its possible to detach the metal base and spin it round
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Post by: mtj2k on February 19, 2013, 10:00:55 pm
Isn't that what these bulb adapters are for?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diasec.co.uk%2Fekmps%2Fshops%2Fdiamondrace%2Fimages%2Fvw-golf-mk5-bulb-adaptors-for-h7--149-p.jpg&hash=d770530794550153833df26cc558343d7a82d937)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 19, 2013, 10:04:10 pm
Those are for the standard headlights that have bulb holders.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mtj2k on February 19, 2013, 10:19:42 pm
Let me know how you get on with 6Oclocking your bulbs. Just got my HID kit in prep for the DEPO Group Buy going down....
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on February 20, 2013, 12:03:29 am
Which hid kit did you get ?
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Post by: mtj2k on February 20, 2013, 09:51:13 am
this one:
http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/vw-golf-mk5-canbus-pro-hid-conversion-35w-kit-dipped-beam/ (http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/vw-golf-mk5-canbus-pro-hid-conversion-35w-kit-dipped-beam/)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.bigcommerce.com%2Fserver1200%2F111df%2Fproducts%2F532%2Fimages%2F1329%2FNew_Canbus_kit_final_400pix__24389.1351865032.1280.1280.gif&hash=c654c972b632f8e743b50adefda0e7225a808116)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 20, 2013, 10:26:03 am
Wouldn't this be possible?
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/rotate.jpg)
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Post by: Polo6n1600i on February 20, 2013, 12:40:04 pm
I'm running Osram superbrights (65w) in the projector & MTec rainbow H&'s in the inner lamps - no shadows and no issues. Also quite a nice colour tint to the lamp too!
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Post by: Timvgti on February 20, 2013, 01:05:16 pm
I'm running Osram superbrights (65w) in the projector & MTec rainbow H&'s in the inner lamps - no shadows and no issues. Also quite a nice colour tint to the lamp too!

That's also an option. I also tried Dectane Xe.Ray superwhite bulbs. Color is good (like xenon) but the light output is nothing compared to a good 5000/6000K xenon set. Also the cut-off with xenons in the projectors is way better.
So that's why I want to keep my hid kit, but loose the shadows...
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Post by: mtj2k on February 20, 2013, 01:32:50 pm
does anyone know which way up the bulbs are in OEM xenons? i'll have a play with mine when i get them....
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Post by: Luka on February 20, 2013, 08:16:09 pm
does anyone know which way up the bulbs are in OEM xenons? i'll have a play with mine when i get them....

Wire at 6 o'clock.
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Post by: mtj2k on February 20, 2013, 09:11:44 pm
Looks as if the Hella version have already thought of this:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bks-tuning.com%2FWebRoot%2FStore9%2FShops%2F17141421%2F4DEF%2FB3D8%2F3AB9%2F1F75%2FF274%2FC0A8%2F28B8%2F7BB3%2FVW_Golg_MK5_Scheinwerfer_Xenon_5.jpg&hash=3170e727289ced009d04d114a9d5a3a17f0b2eb0)
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Post by: Timvgti on February 25, 2013, 10:13:30 am
Next week I can use my dad's Dremel tool, so I'm going to mod the H7 xenon bulbs (make a tab on the other side), so I can place the 180 degrees rotated in the Depo projectors.
Anybody else already tried it to solve the shadows?
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Post by: mtj2k on February 27, 2013, 02:19:01 pm
Tim - Let us know how you get on with the "6 o'clock" mod..

In other news - I found some interesting info on the transport office website regarding HID Kits. look here http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/bl/mottestingmanualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm (http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/bl/mottestingmanualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm) So far, everyone has told me if that if you want to fit HID bulbs then you will need an autolevelling system and headlight washers to pass an MOT. The wording on the published MOT guidance seems to oppose that.

Copied from that page^:
Information
Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.    Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems.  In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given. Headlamp washers may work in conjunction with the windscreen washers (when the dipped beam headlamps are switched on) or by a separate switch.

Method of Inspection
Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted, switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted.

Reason for Rejection
A headlamp levelling or cleaning device inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.

Your views on this would be appreciated thanks!  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jimbob001 on February 27, 2013, 03:38:38 pm
Hi

I bought some r32 look headlights from euro wagens ltd on ebay for £250 all in, they are a proper upgrade set, they fit perfectly and plug and play!! link is below -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-Genuine-Hella-UK-RHD-/250900458319?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6ad52b4f (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-Genuine-Hella-UK-RHD-/250900458319?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6ad52b4f)

Please ask any questions.
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Post by: mtj2k on February 27, 2013, 04:27:51 pm
Hi

I bought some r32 look headlights from euro wagens ltd on ebay for £250 all in, they are a proper upgrade set, they fit perfectly and plug and play!! link is below -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-Genuine-Hella-UK-RHD-/250900458319?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6ad52b4f (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-Genuine-Hella-UK-RHD-/250900458319?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6ad52b4f)

Please ask any questions.

You linked to the Hella ones, i think the ones you got are the DEPO ones if you only paid £250!? Still look great though! get some pics up when you've installed ;)
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 27, 2013, 05:50:15 pm
Did the 6 o'clock mod yesterday. Easy with a dremel-tool.
The two ground shadows are completely 100% gone!!!
I will make a picture ASAP.
First going to take it to a garage that can adjust the lights properly, because I think they are aimed a little to much to the right (I have a lhd) and on that right side, I see a little brighter spot on the ground so guess the right projector is projecting a little to much an the ground on that spot.
Rest of the beam is now 100% as it should be!
No shadow stripes like I posted earlier (the photo).
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: jimbob001 on February 28, 2013, 10:11:03 am
Hi

I bought some r32 look headlights from euro wagens ltd on ebay for £250 all in, they are a proper upgrade set, they fit perfectly and plug and play!! link is below -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-Genuine-Hella-UK-RHD-/250900458319?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6ad52b4f (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-look-head-lights-lamps-VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Jetta-Genuine-Hella-UK-RHD-/250900458319?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6ad52b4f)

Please ask any questions.

You linked to the Hella ones, i think the ones you got are the DEPO ones if you only paid £250!? Still look great though! get some pics up when you've installed ;)

If you phone the guy up he gives discount and photos below.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/19091_530535060301818_2136386705_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226902_552318924790098_1960555914_n.jpg)

Sorry about how dirty the car is  :sad1:
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Post by: mtj2k on February 28, 2013, 10:47:17 am
They look great! well done  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on February 28, 2013, 08:34:13 pm
As promised, here the before and after 6 o'clock mod pictures:
I quess I don't need to tell you guys which photo is with the 6 o'clock mod  :grin:
Looks so much better now! No two ground shadow stripes anymore.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/6oclockmod.jpg)
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Post by: Kalpsn2000 on February 28, 2013, 09:39:12 pm
^^^
So you did a 180 with the wire going from the top to the bottom?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on March 05, 2013, 03:52:09 pm
Bought a second set of HID bulbs (this time 4300k) and did the 6 O'clock mod on them.Will fit em tomorrow and see how i get on.
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Post by: Timvgti on March 05, 2013, 06:01:57 pm
^^^
So you did a 180 with the wire going from the top to the bottom?

Yes  I did and  I used a dremel to cut the new tabs on the other side of the steel bulb-ring.
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Post by: mo on March 05, 2013, 06:45:31 pm
Same method i used
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Polo6n1600i on March 05, 2013, 06:55:58 pm
Ive got Osram superbright std H7 Bulbs (65w) in both the dipped and full beam, they are more than bright enough. Along with Yellow tinted foglights give quite a moody front end!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Marky5Mark on September 25, 2013, 01:22:01 am
Hi peeps, after seeing this thread and missing out on a group buy I got my local carparts place to order me a set of these Depo lamps, but instead they ordered me TYC direct replacement R32 lamps for D2s bulbs!!  the internals behind the dust caps look nothing like the Depo ones shown here... can these still work with putting H7 bulbs in or is what I have totally wrong and should be sent back??  I am at your mercy.. help me Obi Wan Kinobi , your my only help!!  :confused:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on September 25, 2013, 09:38:13 am
Send em back mate and get the H7 ones.
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Post by: Marky5Mark on September 25, 2013, 06:30:08 pm
No problem, I will get on it right away, Thanks Mo!!!

I should have knew right away as soon as he said ive ordered these other ones for you but I trusted his judgement!! lol!!
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Post by: Marky5Mark on September 25, 2013, 07:42:47 pm
has anyone got an up to date link where to buy these from as I told my parts guy to take these back and order the Depo ones but he insists that I will only get the same lights again just a different company making them and H7 will not fit!!  no talking to these people!! lol!!!


Spotted these, are these the same as what you guys have in...   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360737058027
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Post by: RetroRaz on September 25, 2013, 07:50:18 pm
Im selling some here. 


http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=73226.0


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Post by: Marky5Mark on September 25, 2013, 08:06:42 pm
why you selling them buddy if they are only on your car 4wks??  I would prefer new but I might take them if no joy from here or my parts guy!!!  :happy2:
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Post by: RetroRaz on September 25, 2013, 08:10:44 pm
why you selling them buddy if they are only on your car 4wks??  I would prefer new but I might take them if no joy from here or my parts guy!!!  :happy2:

Im putting my car back to standard to part exchange with someone

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Post by: Marky5Mark on September 25, 2013, 08:43:35 pm
Ahhh no problem, I will keep in touch and let you know either way!!
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Post by: RetroRaz on September 25, 2013, 08:49:48 pm
Ahhh no problem, I will keep in touch and let you know either way!!

No problem mate
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Post by: torque777 on September 25, 2013, 09:16:38 pm
I bought from these
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F09%2F26%2F7e9u2equ.jpg&hash=ef15a335065e958bdc42f748d132cc5a96d38196)
Eurowagons on ebay ...depo lights h7 fittment

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Post by: Marky5Mark on September 27, 2013, 06:25:22 pm
Thanks Torque, i'll check them out and hopefully they have a deal on!!  :smiley:
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Post by: Veee-dubber on October 08, 2013, 11:29:24 am
Anyone got a current link for these at all?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: vRS_Pagey on December 07, 2013, 04:49:06 pm
Anyone got a current link for these at all?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=RVI&itemId=251363273297

Had an email from Eurowagens confirming these are RHD
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Post by: torque777 on December 07, 2013, 05:03:18 pm
Tbh I took them out after 2 weeks ..looked good when switched off and in daylight ....but one motor broke and one just kept steaming up like it had a crack ...and worst of all the light output and beam pattern was dire ...worse than standard ..admititally I didn't try a hid kit with them ..but I didn't want to run hid's ..luckily eurowagons took them back no quibble ...good customer service

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Post by: vRS_Pagey on December 07, 2013, 05:06:18 pm
Thats crap then, could just have been unlucky, Depo are generaly considered OE quality.  Did you get the beams adjusted and what bulbs were you using?
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Post by: torque777 on December 08, 2013, 09:28:20 am
Yes all adjusted and using osram night breaker plus bulbs ...instead of illuminating straight ahead of you you had a dead spot in front of car and it illuminated side to side in a wide arc...there was also no kick in the beam as with normall lights and you could see this on beam tester

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Post by: will_15 on December 08, 2013, 09:49:14 pm
Mine were like that with H7's, practically useless, now I've got an HID kit installed they are pretty much spot on, consistent beam pattern ahead and to the left, not quite up there with the output OEM Xenons but close enough! I couldn't go back to normal halogens now...
Title: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: vRS_Pagey on December 09, 2013, 05:04:10 am
I'd be interested to hear if other members have had a similar problem, they might be cheap, but I'm still not shelling out over 200 quid for a pair of lemons!!!
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Post by: JoeDarKa on December 09, 2013, 08:15:14 am
Im happy with mine with the hid kit in. I have nightbreakers as a main beam and find the light output is good.
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Post by: Ant.W28LKR on December 09, 2013, 09:42:14 am
I'm still running std lights . Don't know if i could justify spending ££ on HID kit or Xenons at the moment. Just ordered Philips h7 Xtreme vision bulbs to see if they're any better than the standards.
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Post by: vRS_Pagey on December 10, 2013, 08:10:40 pm
Joe, what type of HIDs have you fitted? I would run non canbus if I got the lights, had a set in my vRS for years with no issues. I assume the Golf can be coded to xenons without shutters on controller 10, or is it 16?
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Post by: JoeDarKa on December 10, 2013, 08:26:47 pm
They are a random set from in my brothers garage. Think they are non-canbus ones. Coded them as you are planning anyway
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Post by: Timvgti on December 11, 2013, 04:18:12 pm
As promised, here the before and after 6 o'clock mod pictures:
I quess I don't need to tell you guys which photo is with the 6 o'clock mod  :grin:
Looks so much better now! No two ground shadow stripes anymore.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21854296/Koplampen/6oclockmod.jpg)

I have these Depo lights for about a year know.
Still happy with them. One time I washed the car a little to thoroughly (also used a presure washer under bonnet) and the depo headlights steamed up. Removed the steam by heating the headlights with a hairdryer. Never fogged up again...
Light output with my hid set is good after I did the 6 o'clock mod.
But still not as diffuse/spread as o.e.m. xenons (see my above pics).
Who has the same light pattern as mine?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 12, 2013, 06:59:38 pm
I have these fitted & I have found myself getting closer & closer to the windscreen when night driving! - The light output is shocking! Im running nightbreaker +'s but in all honesty I may aswell strap a bloody torch to my head and hang out the window!

Anyone got any ideas? Will a HID kit solve this? As previously mentioned I seem to have the blind spots in the middle where there is no light being pushed out onto the road at all :/
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 12, 2013, 08:52:20 pm
I have these fitted & I have found myself getting closer & closer to the windscreen when night driving! - The light output is shocking! Im running nightbreaker +'s but in all honesty I may aswell strap a bloody torch to my head and hang out the window!

Anyone got any ideas? Will a HID kit solve this? As previously mentioned I seem to have the blind spots in the middle where there is no light being pushed out onto the road at all :/

Have you seen my above pics? Light output is good. Brighter as my o.e.m. Audi TT mk1 xenon.
But o.e.m. Xenon is more evenly spread.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 12, 2013, 09:31:25 pm
Tim
Is that a 35w or 55w set you have there ?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on December 12, 2013, 09:43:36 pm
I have these fitted & I have found myself getting closer & closer to the windscreen when night driving! - The light output is shocking! Im running nightbreaker +'s but in all honesty I may aswell strap a bloody torch to my head and hang out the window!

Anyone got any ideas? Will a HID kit solve this? As previously mentioned I seem to have the blind spots in the middle where there is no light being pushed out onto the road at all :/

I have the DEPO lights fitted with a 5k HID kit. The light output is brilliant. IMO these are not designed to be used with standard H7 bulbs.

So yes :happy2:
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Post by: Timvgti on December 12, 2013, 09:45:24 pm
Tim
Is that a 35w or 55w set you have there ?

This is 35w 5000k with the 6 o'clock mod
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Qsfsi on December 13, 2013, 12:28:55 am
Hi All,

I have been following this for a month to so now...just joined....hope you professionals can help me!

Gonna get the DEPO Projectors from Eurowagens...will they fit on my standard mk5 golf rabbit?

If so, direct swap yes? Why all the coding on VAGCOM for the shutters? And what does it actually mean turning the shutters off?

I don't have headlight washer system, mot tester said it will pass if aligned properly, and correct beam pattern!


Thanks All!!
:happy2:
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Post by: mo on December 13, 2013, 12:46:29 am
Qsfsi
Coding is just for if you are fitting a 'non resistor' type HID kit to the projectors.
You set the coding to xenon so that you dont get any bulb out warning issues due to the lower voltage that the hid kit runs on which is similar voltage to standard Xenon lights.

Secondly on Oem xenons  if your headlights are off and you flash your lights (eg to warn an oncoming vehicle) the high beam will flash as with regular headlamps.If your headlights are on the shutter will move to provide the "flash" of light.
So by changing your coding to Xenon without shutter you get the benefit of no bulb out warning on dash and the ability to flash your headlights regardless of if you have your lights on or off.

Timvgti
Cheers I have a 35w 4500k set with the 6 oclock mod in mine.
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Post by: Qsfsi on December 13, 2013, 12:49:20 am
Coding is just for if you are fitting a 'non resistor' type HID kit to the projectors.
You set the coding to xenon so that you dont get any bulb out warning issues due to the lower voltage that the hid kit runs on which is similar voltage to standard Xenon lights.

Secondly on Oem xenons  if your headlights are off and you flash your lights (eg to warn an oncoming vehicle) the high beam will flash as with regular headlamps.If your headlights are on the shutter will move to provide the "flash" of light.
So by changing your coding to Xenon without shutter you get the benefit of no bulb out warning on dash and the ability to flash your headlights regardless of if you have your lights on or off.


Ahh thanks! Is that difficult to do, if I find someone with the vagcom kit?


Apart from that will the kit work fine simple swap on a standard mk5 1.6golf?

Thanks dude your a star, ESP at this time of the night replying and deatiled  efforts!
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Post by: mo on December 13, 2013, 12:51:57 am
No worries mate. Real simple to set up if you know your way around the basics on VagCom.Should work fine no probs on your car.
Where you based ? Should be someone on the Vagcom register near you who can sort you out.
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Post by: Qsfsi on December 13, 2013, 12:54:09 am
No worries mate. Real simple to set up if you know your way around the basics on VagCom.Should work fine no probs on your car.
Where you based ? Should be someone on the Vagcom register near you who can sort you out.

Thanks again for the quick reply. I'll have a look on that thread, I'm in East London but I do know a VAG specialist who prob will know what to do.

The 6'o'clock mod is scaring me lol!

Are the bulbs easy to fit?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 13, 2013, 09:34:33 am
No worries mate. Real simple to set up if you know your way around the basics on VagCom.Should work fine no probs on your car.
Where you based ? Should be someone on the Vagcom register near you who can sort you out.

Thanks again for the quick reply. I'll have a look on that thread, I'm in East London but I do know a VAG specialist who prob will know what to do.

The 6'o'clock mod is scaring me lol!

Are the bulbs easy to fit?

When i did mine i was changing from a set of 5000k to 4500k bulbs so was not under any pressure to rush and get it done.What i did was mark out the area i wanted to cutout with a marker and then Dremel out the excess metal from the bulb base. used one of my old head lights to trial fit before i actually fitted the moded 4500k bulbs.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 13, 2013, 06:22:31 pm
Ok, Soooooooooo I need to do the following:

a) buy a HID kit - any suggestions on a slimline kit?
b) do the '6'oclock mod' - No idea what this is but will research on here tonight.
c) Find someone to code the HID's in?


Correct?


 :stupid:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on December 13, 2013, 08:58:21 pm
In a nutshell yes
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Adil on December 13, 2013, 10:17:25 pm
Gotta google the 6 o clock mod whatever that is, always wanted HIDs
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Qsfsi on December 14, 2013, 01:34:07 am
Guys

With the DEPO headlights, does the manual headlight adjustment work? 1/2/3? Is it the same with Hella too?

If not is it much of an issue if aligned properly, considering I do not have auto levelling feature..AGAIN....I have confirmed with my MOT tester it will pass MOT if the pattern is correct!


Thanks All!
 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 14, 2013, 01:25:26 pm
Guys

With the DEPO headlights, does the manual headlight adjustment work? 1/2/3? Is it the same with Hella too?

If not is it much of an issue if aligned properly, considering I do not have auto levelling feature..AGAIN....I have confirmed with my MOT tester it will pass MOT if the pattern is correct!


Thanks All!
 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:

Yes. Manual 1...2..3... Adjustment work.

No coding for xenon with shutters needed because the depo's have no shutters and use the h7 halogen bulbs for high beam.
So code with vcds 'xenon without shutters'.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Qsfsi on December 16, 2013, 12:20:21 am
Guys

With the DEPO headlights, does the manual headlight adjustment work? 1/2/3? Is it the same with Hella too?

If not is it much of an issue if aligned properly, considering I do not have auto levelling feature..AGAIN....I have confirmed with my MOT tester it will pass MOT if the pattern is correct!


Thanks All!
 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:

Yes. Manual 1...2..3... Adjustment work.

No coding for xenon with shutters needed because the depo's have no shutters and use the h7 halogen bulbs for high beam.
So code with vcds 'xenon without shutters'.

Thanks Again Tim your so helpful!!

Do you know anyone in the East London / Kent area that can do this VCDS thing?
- Ill have a look at the register anyway!

Was worried their for a second the manual 1/2/3 adjustment wouldn't work, would case major issues.

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on December 16, 2013, 03:14:47 pm
Guys

With the DEPO headlights, does the manual headlight adjustment work? 1/2/3? Is it the same with Hella too?

If not is it much of an issue if aligned properly, considering I do not have auto levelling feature..AGAIN....I have confirmed with my MOT tester it will pass MOT if the pattern is correct!


Thanks All!
 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:

Yes. Manual 1...2..3... Adjustment work.

No coding for xenon with shutters needed because the depo's have no shutters and use the h7 halogen bulbs for high beam.
So code with vcds 'xenon without shutters'.

Thanks Again Tim your so helpful!!

Do you know anyone in the East London / Kent area that can do this VCDS thing?
- Ill have a look at the register anyway!

Was worried their for a second the manual 1/2/3 adjustment wouldn't work, would case major issues.



I live in the Netherlands, so can't help you with vcds in your area ;-)
Be sure to buy a good hid slimline kit that doesn't cause the wiper motor interference/failure!
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Qsfsi on December 22, 2013, 04:54:53 am
Guys

With the DEPO headlights, does the manual headlight adjustment work? 1/2/3? Is it the same with Hella too?

If not is it much of an issue if aligned properly, considering I do not have auto levelling feature..AGAIN....I have confirmed with my MOT tester it will pass MOT if the pattern is correct!


Thanks All!
 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:

Yes. Manual 1...2..3... Adjustment work.

No coding for xenon with shutters needed because the depo's have no shutters and use the h7 halogen bulbs for high beam.
So code with vcds 'xenon without shutters'.

Thanks Again Tim your so helpful!!

Do you know anyone in the East London / Kent area that can do this VCDS thing?
- Ill have a look at the register anyway!

Was worried their for a second the manual 1/2/3 adjustment wouldn't work, would case major issues.



I live in the Netherlands, so can't help you with vcds in your area ;-)
Be sure to buy a good hid slimline kit that doesn't cause the wiper motor interference/failure!

Cheers dude!

Got the fitted!!

Now....Gonna get a HID kit, whats the best wattage? Don't want to be burning the socket out!

Also the side lights, do they have a separate bulb? Gonna get LED!

Thanks!
Title: Re:
Post by: torque777 on December 22, 2013, 09:19:03 pm
If you got the depo ones it says on the side max 35w

sent using my own fingers
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Qsfsi on December 27, 2013, 04:56:48 pm
Thanks all for helping so far!

So with the Depo headlights how do you wire the HID's?

When I had a standard halogen headlights, id wire them to the bulb holder.

http://www.eagle-hid.com/images/install_en_3.gif


You see the primary linker, where would that be?

Thanks All :D
Title: Re: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: torque777 on December 27, 2013, 07:32:23 pm
Hi those represent your plug on the back of the h7 bulb in the depo light ...you just pull the terminal block off back of h7 bulb and put the two terminals from the hid bulb kit ..these are what supply power to hid ballast ...as for mounting ballast you could mount ballast under light as there is a space there with posts to screw to like the original r32 lights ...also there is a outline where you could cut out and push wires and bulb through

sent using my own fingers
Title: Re: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Qsfsi on December 28, 2013, 01:46:57 am
Hi those represent your plug on the back of the h7 bulb in the depo light ...you just pull the terminal block off back of h7 bulb and put the two terminals from the hid bulb kit ..these are what supply power to hid ballast ...as for mounting ballast you could mount ballast under light as there is a space there with posts to screw to like the original r32 lights ...also there is a outline where you could cut out and push wires and bulb through

sent using my own fingers

Thanks will ANY 35WATT H7 kit do?

What do I get for the sidelights, or do the use the standard bulb?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: kahunajb on December 28, 2013, 10:52:34 am
Just use standard halogen bulbs such as osram cool blue intense.

Out if interest have people notified their insurance companies that they have fitted projector headlights with HID kits? I presume it invalidates your insurance if you dont notify them however HID kits are not technically legal or a grey area at the very least I presume they could also invalidate insurance?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on December 28, 2013, 06:28:33 pm
Just use standard halogen bulbs such as osram cool blue intense.

Out if interest have people notified their insurance companies that they have fitted projector headlights with HID kits? I presume it invalidates your insurance if you dont notify them however HID kits are not technically legal or a grey area at the very least I presume they could also invalidate insurance?

Using standard lights is the problem with these headlights as the beam pattern & output is affected.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Qsfsi on December 31, 2013, 12:34:46 am
Just use standard halogen bulbs such as osram cool blue intense.

Out if interest have people notified their insurance companies that they have fitted projector headlights with HID kits? I presume it invalidates your insurance if you dont notify them however HID kits are not technically legal or a grey area at the very least I presume they could also invalidate insurance?

Using standard lights is the problem with these headlights as the beam pattern & output is affected.

What do you mean by affected?

So HIDs yeah?

What output everyone suggests? 35WATT 6000k?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on December 31, 2013, 01:29:07 pm
I bought this kit (5k) and it is brilliant. It works fine and the light output is brilliant. Also didn't have to do the 6 o'clock mod :happy2:

http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-ultra-35w-slim-canbus-hid-xenon-conversion-kit/
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on January 01, 2014, 07:30:48 am
Just use standard halogen bulbs such as osram cool blue intense.

Out if interest have people notified their insurance companies that they have fitted projector headlights with HID kits? I presume it invalidates your insurance if you dont notify them however HID kits are not technically legal or a grey area at the very least I presume they could also invalidate insurance?

Using standard lights is the problem with these headlights as the beam pattern & output is affected.

What do you mean by affected?

So HIDs yeah?

What output everyone suggests? 35WATT 6000k?

The output is obstructed, I currently have standard bulbs fitted well, Osram nightbreaker +'s, so standard fitment & the light out put is quite scary! The beam is blocked in places & doesnt even make contact with the road.

Title: Re:
Post by: torque777 on January 01, 2014, 10:38:24 am
This is what I found ..I fitted mine with mtec bulbs and I had to have main beam on they were so poor ...I genuinely believe they require hid kit as I put osram night breaker plus bulbs in and it was still worse than standard lights ...so I think with 35w hid kit with digital ballasts and 5k bulbs should give you enough light output but still think beam pattern is weird but you can't change that

sent using my own fingers
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on January 02, 2014, 05:30:08 pm
Definitely, My Mrs has Osram nightbreakers in her car, as do I in my golf with the FK lights and the difference is quite literally like night & day.

I am buying HIDS & if that doesn't resolve the issue then the FK's are gonna have to go.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Veee-dubber on March 13, 2014, 07:38:52 am
Can anyone please recommend a HID kit for these?


 :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: D_Philli_82 on July 18, 2014, 11:11:55 pm
I know this topic has been exhausted to death but I still don't see a definitive answer...!

I have a mk5 with auto lights...gona get the depo projectors next week...

What HID kit can be used that...
1. Doesn't return a light warning and
2. Doesn't burn out the wipers
3. What wattage..35w 50w or 55w
4. As lights are auto is Canbus needed or not

Am I also right in thinking VCDS needed to disable shutters?

Looking at these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251544218205

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261090668315

http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-35w-ultra-canbus-hid-conversion-kits-golf-mk5/

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on July 19, 2014, 10:43:42 am
I know this topic has been exhausted to death but I still don't see a definitive answer...!

I have a mk5 with auto lights...gona get the depo projectors next week...

What HID kit can be used that...
1. Doesn't return a light warning and
2. Doesn't burn out the wipers
3. What wattage..35w 50w or 55w
4. As lights are auto is Canbus needed or not

Am I also right in thinking VCDS needed to disable shutters?

Looking at these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251544218205

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261090668315

http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-35w-ultra-canbus-hid-conversion-kits-golf-mk5/

Thanks in advance

I have the depo lights since februari 2013.
You need a slim ballast, canbus, 35watt, 5000k or 6000k H7 (non C or R) hid kit.
Look for a good  quality kit, so you don't burn your wiper motor (common problem with cheap hid kits in the mk5).
You need vcds to turn on 'xenon without shutters', so you don't get faultcodes and ignitors/start-up works every time (also with the coming/leaving home functions)
You need H7 xenon bulbs with the ground return wires on the good side, otherwise you get ground shadows. You can also cut out a small piece of the socket, to turn the H7 bulbs. See my pictures:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,56795.msg697548.html#msg697548 and further in the topic.

Example:
(not my photo, I have steel sockets, so I used a dremel to make a new tab in the steel ring)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fallanskimd2003%2F2011_Hyundai_Sonata_GLS_198hp%2F273619Capturer_zps35f11ca2.jpg&hash=a2f64fca4f2abaa2e14290975268077498aac6f2)

Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on July 19, 2014, 11:52:54 am
If your coding for xenon without shutters then you don't need a can-bus hid kit.
I have had a standard hid kit fitted for nearly 2 years now with no issues.
The problem with wiper motors burning out seemed to stem from people using can-bus kits because they avoided the need to change the coding in your car.

I fitted my Depo lights and coded them myself and they have been fine.
If you are planning to use standard non hid bulbs you will realise that the light output is poor with standard bulbs.
If i am being honest and was buying again i would save the extra and go for Hella lights.


Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: D_Philli_82 on July 19, 2014, 02:01:17 pm
Cheers chaps..

So coding correctly seems to be the key here..!!

Problem I'm having is all kits seem to have the ground wire at 12 o'clock...! Do you know of any that don't..?!?
Title: Re: Re: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: Timvgti on July 19, 2014, 02:35:07 pm
Cheers chaps..

So coding correctly seems to be the key here..!!

Problem I'm having is all kits seem to have the ground wire at 12 o'clock...! Do you know of any that don't..?!?
I couldn't find them with the wire on the 6 o'clock position. So I did the modification myself. With a dremel.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on July 19, 2014, 05:38:20 pm
I used a dremel and did the 6o'clock mode.
Get bulbs with a metal base tho
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: D_Philli_82 on July 20, 2014, 11:14:01 am
Will do then...

Just out of interest do the lights have plastic covers in the back to close each light section off just like the standard halogen headlights or do they remain open?

Gona order from eBay today  :happy2:
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on July 20, 2014, 01:18:11 pm
They have plastic covers like standard but you need to drill holes to feed the hid kit wiring through.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: akbarirfan on January 06, 2015, 10:54:27 pm
Will do then...

Just out of interest do the lights have plastic covers in the back to close each light section off just like the standard halogen headlights or do they remain open?

Gona order from eBay today  :happy2:

Did you get a canbus kit or not mate? I understand that if you code it correctly then there is no need for a canbus kit.

Also I'm thinking of going for a 55W kit, anybody using one here?

Thanks
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: mo on January 07, 2015, 09:42:46 am
I went for a 35w kit and coded for xenons without shutters. Been working fine.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: D_Philli_82 on January 07, 2015, 11:02:37 pm
Will do then...

Just out of interest do the lights have plastic covers in the back to close each light section off just like the standard halogen headlights or do they remain open?

Gona order from eBay today  :happy2:

Did you get a canbus kit or not mate? I understand that if you code it correctly then there is no need for a canbus kit.

Also I'm thinking of going for a 55W kit, anybody using one here?

Thanks

I went for a canbus kit (as it was discounted on eBay) 55w 4300k. Looks quality. I also have xenon without shutter coded and us style DRLs. Great mod.
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: akbarirfan on January 07, 2015, 11:04:04 pm
Cheers mate - US style DRLs, do they use the sidelights?
Title: Re: xenon style lights by FK any good???
Post by: D_Philli_82 on January 07, 2015, 11:38:24 pm
Cheers mate - US style DRLs, do they use the sidelights?

No they use the indicators...mine are set at 30% I think. Look at the how to guides on here...I'm sure there's a thread with plenty of pics..!!