MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: camfollower on March 20, 2013, 08:57:51 pm
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Speaking to a local supposed VW "specialist" today, wondering how much he charges to replace the CF... his response was, not to bother, it will cause more problems if you start messing about with that... WTF - I told him about the countless amount of people who have had serious and costly issues from failed followers and it's a relatively cheap maintenance measure, that I've done myself, but he was having none of it. :rolleye:
Then went to my local VW parts desk to order another follower... totally different reaction to the issue, knows it's a real problem and can forsee A LOT of complaints for VW on the horizon with the amount of Mk5's reaching a threshold mileage for follower desctruction...
I was a bit miffed by the attitude of the Indy; gone waaay down in my estimation.
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EDIT, to include useful info:
Cam follower Part Number (Latest as of 20/03/13) : 06D 109 309C
Price: £23.66 + VAT
DIY Installation, made slightly harder if you have an early engine and the Banjo (M8 Triple Square bit), circled on the left in red (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp343/SpeeDemon2437/HPFP%20DIY/4FuelFittings.jpg), but use some tape to hold it in another tool and all is good: http://myfastgti.com/volkswagen/threads/12734-DIY-HPFP-Removal-and-Cam-Follower-Replacement
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Then went to my local VW parts desk to order another follower... totally different reaction to the issue, knows it's a real problem and can forsee A LOT of complaints for VW on the horizon with the amount of Mk5's reaching a threshold mileage for follower desctruction...
In the interests of balance, I went to my local VW yesterday to pick up a follower I'd ordered, and I asked the technician there if they'd had many problems with them. He said he'd never changed one, or heard of one being changed.
I told him about reading a lot of horror stories on the net and his exact words were "if people believed everything they read about the GTI on the net, nobody would ever buy one" - with a 'oh here we go, another internet worshipping mug' look on his face.
I think there's still work to do on the campaign yet... :mad:
Rich.
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Keep speeding the awareness, Camfollower :notworthy:
I'm with you all the way :happy2:
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A wee bit off topic but anyone got hte part number for a camfollower for an 08 ed30? its only done 30k miles but has Autotech HPFP internals so want to change it to be safe :happy2:
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A wee bit off topic but anyone got hte part number for a camfollower for an 08 ed30? its only done 30k miles but has Autotech HPFP internals so want to change it to be safe :happy2:
It's the same part no for any other tfsi engine :happy2:
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Feckin morons. If they knew the sh*te i'd gone through they wouldn't be so smug about it. Name and shame the indy.
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A wee bit off topic but anyone got hte part number for a camfollower for an 08 ed30? its only done 30k miles but has Autotech HPFP internals so want to change it to be safe :happy2:
It's the same part no for any other tfsi engine :happy2:
Cheers :happy2:
so the part number should be 06D 109 309 C
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That's the same number given in this thread: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,17924.0.html
Always worth checking when you order if there is a later part (ie a D or E), as the forums may miss an update
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I can't believe the ignorance described in the OP's posting. Irrespective of opinions on how long the cam followers last, I always looked at it as a routine service item. The fact that it was so cheap and easy to change versus the potential failure costs made it the biggest no-brainer in the history of mankind. Experience has told me that we may have been a bit over-zealous on how often they were changed but I for one never took the risk!
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I asked at my local dealers and they said they have never changed one, or knew what one was, so i have since educated them and sent them links to the forum, more so as the service guy is running an '04' MK5 GTI himself with 80K + on it. :happy2:
Mine is shortly being booked in at statlers for the follower changing, on 50k, but all routine maintanence is worthwhile. :happy2:
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This is a little worrying as I'm a foreman at a vw dealership and its actually a service bulletin for the CF. So some techs obviously haven't been doing there homework.
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is this with regards to all 2.0tfsi engines?
thanks Ben
gazon69 can you contact me please interested in some parts you have for sale thanks Ben
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Hmmmm interesting stuff, thinking this might be another item on the list to change in a few weeks time with my DV, how much is the cam follower?
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is this with regards to all 2.0tfsi engines?
thanks Ben
gazon69 can you contact me please interested in some parts you have for sale thanks Ben
Correct :happy2:
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Funny thing...
i have never heard about cam follower befor, if i'm honest. Than i have found this forum, start reading it , an saw , that CF can be a big problem.
I went to the vw service here in slovenia to order one...they haven't got a clue, what i'm talking about....so, i bought new one, and change it.
I told to my friend to change it, and when he did, he had a big hole in his ( robiform, also on forum here )....so , we probably saved alot of gti's here in slovenia, because of this great forum here :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Cam follower Part Number (latest as of yesterday): 06D 109 309C
Price: £23.66 + VAT
DIY Installation: http://myfastgti.com/volkswagen/threads/12734-DIY-HPFP-Removal-and-Cam-Follower-Replacement
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I thought the wear was due to HPFP being fitted or are we saying that over time will wear even on a car which has not been mapped?
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I thought the wear was due to HPFP being fitted or are we saying that over time will wear even on a car which has not been mapped?
The latter...
Also having a map that demands 130 bar places additional stresses on the follower
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With this in mind are we saying a mapped car should really have them replaced?
I'm getting no signs of this at present, but about to have her at the garage to do various, shall i get this done?
I assume the part number quoted fits ED30's as well?
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FYI- £28.39 including Vat. Price quoted today at VW in Dundee. :happy2:
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FYI- £28.39 including Vat. Price quoted today at VW in Dundee. :happy2:
Thanks I bet VW in Bham, Solihull and Nuneaton will quote me upwards of £40!
They quoted me £58-£62 for a DV valve today, total rip offs!
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After considering doing my follower for a couple of months and seeing numerous threads appearing I ordered the part yesterday and collected it form the dealers this morning.
I was a little anxious about doing it as I'm going on holiday next weekend (not with the car) and last time the turbo on my old car failed a few days before my holiday and it was all I could think about whilst away. My GTI is a 05 AXX on 65K, therefore as you know it has the banjo bolt with the M8 spline / triple square. After spending over and hour trying to find one on the high street without avail. I had to resort to using on I already had, firmly in a 1/2 socket. To my surprise I managed to remove the bolt with this and was relatively easy. I think this was mainly helped by the fact of the hype of difficulty of removing it. Anyway, it was good news as you can see below:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff367%2Fv4rley1%2Fimage_zps2d8f68bc.jpg&hash=37413bac8494cc5dcd02122fe4b8de2dec71bf90)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff367%2Fv4rley1%2Fimage_zps2e6f9b00.jpg&hash=7e6482d12d7d085397af00e1d5ff7cef4aae6d49)
As you can see it was in ok condition with expected ware but feel it was worth doing and have got piece of mind for another 15k. Thanks go to the guys who support the awareness of this issue :happy2:
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Good news there mate, that's not too bad that. I'm waiting for the weather to get more friendly to do mine again, it's been in ~25k.
Out of interest were those 65k miles, tuned or standard?
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After considering doing my follower for a couple of months and seeing numerous threads appearing I ordered the part yesterday and collected it form the dealers this morning.
I was a little anxious about doing it as I'm going on holiday next weekend (not with the car) and last time the turbo on my old car failed a few days before my holiday and it was all I could think about whilst away. My GTI is a 05 AXX on 65K, therefore as you know it has the banjo bolt with the M8 spline / triple square. After spending over and hour trying to find
one on the high street without avail. I had to resort to using on I already had, firm
ly in a 1/2 socket. To my surprise I managed to remove the bolt with this and was relatively easy. I think this was mainly helped by the fact of the hype of difficulty of removing it. Anyway, it was good news as you can see below:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff367%2Fv4rley1%2Fimage_zps2d8f68bc.jpg&hash=37413bac8494cc5dcd02122fe4b8de2dec71bf90)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff367%2Fv4rley1%2Fimage_zps2e6f9b00.jpg&hash=7e6482d12d7d085397af00e1d5ff7cef4aae6d49)
As you can see it was in ok condition with expected ware but feel it was worth doing and have got piece of mind for another 15k. Thanks go to the guys who support the awareness of this issue :happy2:
Yes i had a problem with the banjo bolt as well,
managed to do mine with a t40 torx bit
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Good news there mate, that's not too bad that. I'm waiting for the weather to get more friendly to do mine again, it's been in ~25k.
Out of interest were those 65k miles, tuned or standard?
Yeah I was waiting for the weather but just wanted to get it and see what it was like. It has a stage 1 remap at 55k, also got the revision G DV whilst at the dealers, think ill await better weather for doing that.
Yes i had a problem with the banjo bolt as well,
managed to do mine with a t40 torx bit
Yeah I was getting a bit desperate / annoyed at not being able to source one and even rang the dealers and they suggested I booked it in for the work, don't think so :P
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Good news there mate, that's not too bad that. I'm waiting for the weather to get more friendly to do mine again, it's been in ~25k.
Out of interest were those 65k miles, tuned or standard?
Yeah I was waiting for the weather but just wanted to get it and see what it was like. It has a stage 1 remap at 55k, also got the revision G DV whilst at the dealers, think ill await better weather for doing that.
Lol, I have a Rev G to fit too, I believe you can go in through the drivers side wheel arch on K03, probably a bit of a PITA without a ramp/lift though.
Got a few fair weather tasks to do now (CF, DV and rear dust shields) - probably just get frustrated and do them all in the snow!
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My cam follower was changed in July 2012 at service, and will be changed again this July. For the sake of 26 squidleys plus a little labour, it's well worth it from a piece of mind point of view :happy2:
Good work Camfollower, it's amazing how many are still unaware of the potential dangers :congrats: :notworthy:
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This is a little worrying as I'm a foreman at a vw dealership and its actually a service bulletin for the CF. So some techs obviously haven't been doing there homework.
Which dealership please? Might help a few on the board who've lost faith in VW main dealers.
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im picking up my ED 30 this week, will be getting one of these ordered to change ASAP, thanks guys better to be safe than sorry!
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Does the Cam Follower come with the seal? If not could someone post the part number for that too?
Thanks. :happy2:
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Does the Cam Follower come with the seal? If not could someone post the part number for that too?
No, the hpfp seal is a seperate item.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me :wink:
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This should be a sticky(pinned) thread(topic)
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The O ring for the hpfp is now WHT005184. It used to be 06E127248. :smiley:
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The O ring for the hpfp is now WHT005184. It used to be 06E127248. :smiley:
Lol I just ordered 06E yesterday!!
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Just ordered my cam-follower. Will be replaced this weekend!
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When I get a GTI ill be making sure this has been done or getting it done as soon as ive purchased one.
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Getting mine done along with the DV this weekend....*does little dance*...... :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
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Doing mine too this weekend (finally).
I can see it now as I'm wheeled into A&E with black fingers:
"Another frostbite victim doctor!" cries the unattractive nurse.
"What were you thinking?" the overworked SHO enquires.
"I was doing a simple 2.0TFSI cam follower change."
"Ahh the old TFSI achilles heel. I actually changed the one in my S3 just last week. However I wore a pair of Mechanix gloves and carried out the work in my heated double garage. I was actually sweating!", he laughs.
"I can't afforded a heated garage."
"Obviously I could send it to my Audi dealer, but I like to work on my own cars as it helps with my surgical skills. The dealer also mentioned that cam followers weren't an issue with these cars."
"I can't even afford V-Power anymore."
"You're running on 95? Nasty! Funnily enough I get a lot of VW owners saying the same thing, with the exception of my wife. She's waiting for the Mk7 R. I'm not a VW fan myself though - I hate the way they use pig iron for the brakes and wishbones. Really messes with the handling."
"People say that Audi's are uninvolving and joyless though." I retort.
"Have you driven one?"
"Umm..no. Anyway what's the prognosis?"
"Not bad - we'll only have to amputate the forefinger and thumb. You'll be fine to drive after 6 months or so, as long as you don't have DSG?"
I am speechless.
"Nurse!"
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^^^
:signLOL:
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When I get a GTI ill be making sure this has been done or getting it done as soon as ive purchased one.
That's good to know. When are you getting a gti? We are all waiting with baited breath... :happy2:
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Are these part numbers suitable for the edition 30? Thanks
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Are these part numbers suitable for the edition 30? Thanks
Yes... :smiley:
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Just picked up my new cam follower.....wheres the 'How To' ????
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Just picked up my new cam follower.....wheres the 'How To' ????
Here's a link to ROH-ECHT's very comprehensive vid of cam follower change on You Tube :happy2:
Also a link to his thread on the same topic.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59369.0.html
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Thank you please :notworthy:
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Hehe, no worries Buddy :grin:
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Here's Mine looked pretty good still changed for peace of mind mileage 46k
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn147%2Fbowster12000%2F582E3541-BFBC-43EC-AF88-75F0F9DE4D31-1398-000001411FC66197_zps1b64d166.jpg&hash=45b155c7c60044696a862e232a115ec3b39f1f1d)
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I'll probably regret saying this, but I decided against doing mine seeing as it's a 2008 (improved surface coating) and I'm below 50k.
Presumably service history and quality/frequency of oil topup could accelerate wear on said follower? :popcornsoda:
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It's a lottery.
If it's never been done, then I'd question your choice not to do it; it's a £28 part that can be DIY'ed or Indied for 30-60mins labour.
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I'll probably regret saying this, but I decided against doing mine seeing as it's a 2008 (improved surface coating) and I'm below 50k.
Presumably service history and quality/frequency of oil topup could accelerate wear on said follower? :popcornsoda:
That's what I thought, religious servicing and oil changes didn't help mine though.............
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,63945.0.html
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I'll probably regret saying this, but I decided against doing mine seeing as it's a 2008 (improved surface coating) and I'm below 50k.
Presumably service history and quality/frequency of oil topup could accelerate wear on said follower? :popcornsoda:
Mine also is low miler and fsh and late 07 but for sake of £28 it's a lot cheaper then replacing everything that breaks if it goes took my mechanic 20 minutes start to finnish
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I received my cam follower today, going to change it on the weekend. Do I need to oil the cam follower itself?
Mine came in the usual plastic case but with bubble wrap around the cam follower inside.
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Yes, oil the follower with some nice castrol edge goodness.
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This is mine after covering 57k on my BWA engined k03 gti really not that bad at all considering some you see.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff33%2Felliot102%2F20130316_214539_zps845e624a.jpg&hash=2b83c31614653ed098f0984b53486d4563acbaa8)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff33%2Felliot102%2F20130316_214600_zps32840def.jpg&hash=0258d9f8b486ca9a39b75f2ddf7e176759dde9a8)
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Got a bit of a crack on it though.
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Got a bit of a crack on it though.
:signLOL:
Slightly off topic but it reminded me of this article I read this morning:
http://now.msn.com/matt-hendersons-rego-app-name-means-butt-crack-in-portuguese
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SIG REMOVED. MEMBER BANNED FOR 5 DAYS!
Pathetic... wasn't even bad.
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Hi guys,
Just got an 05 GTI with 75k on. Full service history from new with book all stamped, but I'm guessing this hasn't been done. Should I be looking to do this ASAP? Not in the slightest a mechanical person so it could be a garage job.
Thanks,
Mark.
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05 GTI on 95k miles
Changed mine earlier.
f*ck all wrong with it - it looked near enough new
However it did make the idle quieter
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I'll probably regret saying this, but I decided against doing mine seeing as it's a 2008 (improved surface coating) and I'm below 50k.
Presumably service history and quality/frequency of oil topup could accelerate wear on said follower? :popcornsoda:
See reply 58 - that guy has the same camshaft as you and his black coating had worn off at around 58k miles.
If I were you I wouldn't leave it too long :scared:
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Hi guys,
Just got an 05 GTI with 75k on. Full service history from new with book all stamped, but I'm guessing this hasn't been done. Should I be looking to do this ASAP? Not in the slightest a mechanical person so it could be a garage job.
Thanks,
Mark.
No it won't have been done before as it's not recognised as a service item. Have a look at the how-to guide linked near the start of this thread and decide whether you want to do it yourself.
I'd deco end doing it as for the sake of £25 it's a lot cheaper than £1500 for a new camshaft etc.
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fshrani.si%2Ff%2F3w%2FhC%2FInsJtm0%2F1%2F2012-10-04-173917.jpg&hash=46066b40133af68fa023e705da9102e3bb8092e9)
when I put mine out, I lost a ("small") part of it :mad:
But I was very lucky, everything else was fine. But you never know, maybe just in a few miles, or days, or weeks evryting might ........ :fighting:
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Actually cam follower was together ("in one part"), but when I put it out this part which is missing crumbled away. It did not went in to "engine". Otherwise I do not have any idea what could happen. :stupid:
I do not know if I have right information about it, but I heard that engine has something like magnet at the bottom.
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Actually cam follower was together ("in one part"), but when I put it out this part which is missing crumbled away. It did not went in to "engine". Otherwise I do not have any idea what could happen. :stupid:
I do not know if I have right information about it, but I heard that engine has something like magnet at the bottom.
Yikes! :surprised: Can I ask how old your car is, and what mileage?
Rich.
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Sorry mate, but I don't think the cam follower could get to that state and not have done some damage to the cam. :sad1:
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Inspected ours today, not too bad after 60k. Does this need changing guys?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fz340%2Fdaz05%2Ffcafbdd84c7a7c60599f4ce0ce369f40_zpse4cf7f5c.jpg&hash=81a4075e211927a3f62a42b17cd23c61fef1eb43)
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afaik the black stuff is the hardened coating, that has gone on yours, so I would be replacing that personally.
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I never knew about this until I read this thread so I'm going to do mine as its a 2005 witk 73k.
I've read a few how-to guides and watched some videos, do you really need to put the engine to TDC before you start, as some people do? Surely the new cam follower will just sit in the exact same place that the old one did.
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You don't need to set tdc. You may have to push the pump a bit against the spring depending on the resting position of the cam lobe.
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You don't need to set tdc. You may have to push the pump a bit against the spring depending on the resting position of the cam lobe.
This needs to be highlighted in the how to guide as it reads like you need to know TDC or not continue,I have a DSG and have obvious problems with leaving the engine in gear to find Top Dead Centre.
Just a thought
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I read somewhere that you can rock the car slightly to get it into a favourable position if you have trouble getting the follower in.
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So I'm assuming that if the engine isnt at TDC, when you pull the fuel pump off, it may pop off a little because of the spring, if the cam lobe wasnt in its minimum position? Then when you reinstall the pump you may need to push against the spring depending on the cam lobe position?
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afaik the black stuff is the hardened coating, that has gone on yours, so I would be replacing that personally.
Cheers worth doing for peace of mind I guess. Nice and easy as mine didn't have the banjo bolt. :jumpmove:
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So I'm assuming that if the engine isnt at TDC, when you pull the fuel pump off, it may pop off a little because of the spring, if the cam lobe wasnt in its minimum position? Then when you reinstall the pump you may need to push against the spring depending on the cam lobe position?
Yep, it might need a bit of a push to help getting it back in, but once you locate the three bolts back into the housing you can then re-apply pressure to tighten the bolts back up 'hands free' (7.5nm think is the torque setting). This really is a quick job, 20 mins or so, for peace of mind.
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Guys I am still waiting for my M8 spline bit to arrive as I have the AXX engine with the banjo bolt.
I hear some have used a Torx bit instead, anyone able to get the banjo bolt off without using a M8 spline?
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Sorry mate, but I don't think the cam follower could get to that state and not have done some damage to the cam. :sad1:
Car is 2006, 140.000 km (around 87k miles).
Evrything else is fine, we double check it.
because cam fallower was in one part, but when I put it out cam fallower fall apart (I have this part which is missing on the pic, just the bottom fall apart).
If you ask me it was just a matter of time when everything will go..... :stupid:
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Did mine today :) I really took my time and still managed to do it in 35 mins, that includes taking the CAI off and a bit of cleaning.
Mine was about the same as Daz's above, after 37k, 20k of which have been Stage 1.
Just feels nice to know that it wasn't see through :lol
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Does the new cam follower need to be run in at all?
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Does the new cam follower need to be run in at all?
I hope not. :driver: lol
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Does the new cam follower need to be run in at all?
No.
Just get in a drive it :driver:
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Sweet, cheers :happy2:
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Just found this info from the US - scary how much can easily be found about this issue and hearing that some vw places seem to have no idea
http://www.aera.org/ep/techbulletins/TB2011/Q4-2011/TB2564.pdf
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I think it makes a difference whether it's standard or tuned.
Mine had been driven moderately on stage1 for the last 20k (37k in total) and it needed replacing. Add another 37k and it could very well be like this:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhumblemechanic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2FCam-follower.jpg&hash=adc69cfa10a81115aec9fdc98dfa9379dc9a9723)
For the sake of buying the part (28£) and taking some time to read the how to, it's THE most beneficial maintenance task, this side of oil/filter you can do for the Mk5 GTI.
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I didn't know anything about this, have to take a look at our one
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Changed mine on Sat, car is an 05 that has covered 82k and is totally standard, must admit it wasn't as bad as I was expecting but some signs of wear present, pleased I've done it though.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgrahams1975%2FThe_Golf_GTI%2F20130330_202023_zps2dd55b96.jpg&hash=d46d217d992f45b4b39c641630aee03999925d0a)
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I have never checked mine, but I think I have the revised part as I have a late 2009 engine?
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Did mine at the weekend. AXX 05 plate on 79K, running standard pump. Was a bit tricky with the twin hard line setup but ok with the right tools, took around 45mins with a cup of tea halfway.
Old and New :happy2:
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Did mine at the weekend. AXX 05 plate on 79K, running standard pump. Was a bit tricky with the twin hard line setup but ok with the right tools, took around 45mins with a cup of tea halfway.
Old and New :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fjj45%2Fgodsy1969%2FIMG_3322_zps6b64215e.jpg&hash=9d20f4d17549eae7f57dbf204f5dda4cde5df161)
I also have a axx on a 55 plate with similar miles - how does that wear relate in seriousness levels? Have a new follower on the way, just interested.
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Compared with some of the pictures I've seen on a wear level of 1-10 i'd give mine a 3/10. Personally I was happy that I'd changed it for peace of mind and comfortable with the state of it when removed. The camshaft itself had no additional markings on it :happy2:
We've all seen a lot worse. :happy2:
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I don't have the M18 thingy (scientific term) and I don't have time for one to be delivered before I go on a long drive. All the garages I have phoned seemed confused as to why I want it done, even VW and VW specialists... One garage even said that they hate working on the top-side of a MK5 engine because it's a pain in the arse. I told them I'd do it myself if I had the M18 and I am not a mechanic....
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It's an M8 thingy (spline bit) by the way. Had to order a set of spline bits myself so I have the ones I need - having said that at about £6 for a set of 11 it's not pricey :)
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Just done mine, a 55 plate AXX engine, I had the two metal pipes. Was fairly straight forward with the right tool:
13mm spanner
17mm spanner
30 Torx screw
and M8 spline.
I had done just under 90K, and old one looked like this:
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Shame your not more local Alex as could have helped out.
Si
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Sorry yeah, I meant M8. Tired this morning :P I was looking to buy some, but I can't envision me using it more than once, plus they wouldn't be delivered before the weekend. :fighting:
I live near Plymouth.
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Changed mine out at the weekend, no banjo bolt so a straightforward task.
2007 car with 49,000 miles. The DLC has worn off from the centre outwards, so was just right for a change. Cam lobe was nice and unmarked.
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Had an early finish at 4PM today so ordered a new follower at 12:30PM today from TPS and cracked on with it when I got home, Took me 45mins with no issue's at all.
As already echoed on the forum for the time this takes to replace and how straight forward the job it to do I would encourage anyone with a TFSI powered car to replace theirs!
Taken from my ED30 which turned 54K miles today and is a standard car with full VWSH, Very happy with my findings to see little wear on the follower and the camshaft in excellent condition also....
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Regards Simon
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From my 56 DSG gti 98,888 miles
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I've changed mine recently too; Standard GTI, 55 plate (AXX) with 100k. Ready for changing, but not terrible, and the cam looked ok too.
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Rich.
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I wonder if some of the destroyed followers have been because the 3 bolts for holding the hpfp in place have been torqued to different amounts? I imagine this would mean the pump spring would be off centre and therefore cause accelerated wear?
It's just a theory though.
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I wonder if some of the destroyed followers have been because the 3 bolts for holding the hpfp in place have been torqued to different amounts? I imagine this would mean the pump spring would be off centre and therefore cause accelerated wear?
It's just a theory though.
I would doubt it, the pumps protruding section with the 'O'ring on it is quite a snug fit in the head diameter and I doubt it wouldn't allow to much tilt. I think even with three varying torques the pump would still sit square.
Seems quite a few cam followers still in reasonable shape even on reasonably high mileage cars :confused :Begs the question are all the issues purely down to.
1 - Using the higher pressure pump, ie APR / autotech internals
2 - Revision A cam. More of a US issue I believe ????
3 - Poor maintenance, lack of regular oil changes or poor oil quality. This area should have hydrodynamic lubrication between the follower and lobe contact area, so possibly using incorrect oil which is not capable of withstanding the surface contact pressures seen between the two parts would increase wear rates and cause premature failure.
Then again it might not be our fault and it could be VW purchasers cutting cost by a few pence and buying cheaper crap followers :wink:
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Mine was VERY badly worn and is serviced religiously with good quality oil.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,63945.0.html
It was the original follower as well so I doubt very much the pump was torqued incorrectly. There doesn't seem any reason in particular why some are worse than others with comparable mileages
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Mine was VERY badly worn and is serviced religiously with good quality oil.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,63945.0.html
It was the original follower as well so I doubt very much the pump was torqued incorrectly. There doesn't seem any reason in particular why some are worse than others with comparable mileages
Have you had the car from new ? Could it be a previous owner running something causing this issue ?
Looks like you caught it just in time though :scared:
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No I just bought it last September but the service records are very comprehensive, but you could be right, I guess previous owners might not be as picky as me with regards to oil quality!
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Mine was VERY badly worn and is serviced religiously with good quality oil.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,63945.0.html
It was the original follower as well so I doubt very much the pump was torqued incorrectly. There doesn't seem any reason in particular why some are worse than others with comparable mileages
Probably has some link to engine rpm rather than just mileage, higher rpm across the mileage will result in more wear.
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Mine was VERY badly worn and is serviced religiously with good quality oil.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,63945.0.html
It was the original follower as well so I doubt very much the pump was torqued incorrectly. There doesn't seem any reason in particular why some are worse than others with comparable mileages
Probably has some link to engine rpm rather than just mileage, higher rpm across the mileage will result in more wear.
Not necessarily, Cold starts with thick oil and prolonged periods of idling give borderline lubrication or partial lubrication on surfaces particularly cam followers or bucket tappets resulting in lots of wear.
When breaking engines in (old school style) it quickens the whole process up using 10 second spells at idle along with ramps to the redline. :happy2:
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True im not sayings it's the only factor, two cars driven, one at higher rpm than the other in the exact same conditions over 20k you would expect the car working harder to have more wear.
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Checked/ changed mine today... 08 ED30 on 49k...
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No wear showing what so ever, still. Pleased I checked and changed it just for a piece of mind :)
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got Alex at AKS to put a new one on the Pirelli today which has done 67k, old one had minimal wear
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Dropped it off at the garage today. I needed it done before Monday as I have a long drive, and over the weekend I am too busy. I had to show them where it is located, and tell them what tools they will need. Will my car explode when I get it back?
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Checked/ changed mine today... 08 ED30 on 49k...
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No wear showing what so ever, still. Pleased I checked and changed it just for a piece of mind :)
Are you standard?
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Dropped it off at the garage today. I needed it done before Monday as I have a long drive, and over the weekend I am too busy. I had to show them where it is located, and tell them what tools they will need. Will my car explode when I get it back?
I would get a new garage!
If anyone is in the North West and would like the cam follower changing we will supply and fit for £55 inc VAT. We did Numecs yesterday and his wasn't too bad for a car almost at 100k miles.
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Hardly worth doing it yourself at that price!!
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Dropped it off at the garage today. I needed it done before Monday as I have a long drive, and over the weekend I am too busy. I had to show them where it is located, and tell them what tools they will need. Will my car explode when I get it back?
Sure they will sort it mate.
Ask to see what the old one was like, sure is fine. Like everyone has said, just a peace of mind job.
DV next on my list.
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Just ordered the O-Ring (9 quid plus VAT :scared: ) plus the follower (28.50 all in), stage 1 2008 GTI on 50k.. not expecting to see much wear but will be interesting exercise all the same :happy2:
Funny, the parts guy mentioned that they've never had any orders for those parts before...
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Got mine and the other ring for £30 Inc vat :) my parts guy also said they hadn't had one ordered before :/
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Dropped my mates ed30 in to vw for its service last week, requested that they change the cam follower whilst its in.
Many scratched heads later they confirmed that there were 16 of them and its a huge job to change them so it would need to stay with them for a while :signLOL:
Realising they had no clue we just gave them the part number to order, they said its not called a cam follower and they'd never changed 1. Low and behold the part arrives with cam follower printed on the ticket.
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vw call it a tappet.
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vw call it a tappet.
Lol. Reminds me of when I went to order the DV, the guy said there is nothing with that name, they call it the cutoff valve.
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Mine on 260hp GTi AXX at 98k miles. Was stock for about 75- 80k, Stage 1 for the rest.
Lots of the black coating gone and also starting to pit on the surface. :confused: :surprised:
Cam lobe seemed ok.
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^^^ Good call to change m8 :happy2: It was certainly getting there.
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when changing cam follower
do will replace the ring gasket on the hpfp fuel pump
or just check for signs of wear like cracks in the rubber etc......
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when changing cam follower
do will replace the ring gasket on the hpfp fuel pump
or just check for signs of wear like cracks in the rubber etc......
You can replace it if you want to and they cost around £9, If the old one is in good order then it can be re-used. The majority including myself left the old O-Ring on.
All I did was make sure it was thoroughly clean and smeared a thin layer of new engine oil on before refitting the pump, I checked for leaks after my journey to work and re-checked today and its still bone dry so all good!
Cheers
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Changed my cam follower today, standard 82k 2005 gti axx with banjo bolt. A bit fiddly but pretty straightforward.
Had some wear but not too bad, cam lobe looks fine to me..
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Your cam lobe looks better than mine did....although smooth to the touch it had signs of light brown deposits/staining. Maybe bad oil maintenance prior to my ownership.
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Dropped my mates ed30 in to vw for its service last week, requested that they change the cam follower whilst its in.
Many scratched heads later they confirmed that there were 16 of them and its a huge job to change them so it would need to stay with them for a while :signLOL:
Realising they had no clue we just gave them the part number to order, they said its not called a cam follower and they'd never changed 1. Low and behold the part arrives with cam follower printed on the ticket.
My local stealer quoted me £1,600.00 to do this.....nearly fell off my chair when I heard that!! Took them 3 days to get me the quote, don't think they had a clue :fighting:
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07 55k full vw history, cams looked ok to me too
thats dust on it btw
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It really looks to be starting in on that centre section; was it flat? Another good change there I think.
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Dropped my mates ed30 in to vw for its service last week, requested that they change the cam follower whilst its in.
Many scratched heads later they confirmed that there were 16 of them and its a huge job to change them so it would need to stay with them for a while :signLOL:
Realising they had no clue we just gave them the part number to order, they said its not called a cam follower and they'd never changed 1. Low and behold the part arrives with cam follower printed on the ticket.
My local stealer quoted me £1,600.00 to do this.....nearly fell off my chair when I heard that!! Took them 3 days to get me the quote, don't think they had a clue :fighting:
Probably a quote for a new camshaft. :rolleye: Which, if nothing else highlights how important it is to monitor / replace the follower periodically.
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So I got mine changed in the end... the car didn't blow up! Yey
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So I got mine changed in the end... the car didn't blow up! Yey
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Looks seriously flattened :P
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Changed mine today - how to guide was helpful as was a proper m8 spline bit and a ratchet spanner - and a brother :)
Really happy with the wear on the old one - 55 plate with 75k
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Bloody hell! I'm getting one ordered tomorrow! 05 with 60k will be getting tired now surely?
The garage that did my cam chain said it looked fine but I'm not convinced!
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Bloody hell! I'm getting one ordered tomorrow! 05 with 60k will be getting tired now surely?
The garage that did my cam chain said it looked fine but I'm not convinced!
Just to clarify I thought the wear was fine for the age, no sign of any pushing inwards - but if checking might as well replace for the cost - so glad I did it anyway :)
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Bloody hell! I'm getting one ordered tomorrow! 05 with 60k will be getting tired now surely?
The garage that did my cam chain said it looked fine but I'm not convinced!
Just to clarify I thought the wear was fine for the age, no sign of any pushing inwards - but if checking might as well replace for the cost - so glad I did it anyway :)
Like you say, for the cost it may as well be done, going to do dv & pcv at the same time :)
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Went to vw to get a cam follower today but they had none in so ordered me one for tommorow. I cant find any bloody spline bits anywhere though! Has anyone tried doing it without taking the pipes off and letting the metal pipes bend a bit? or should i order one? If they bend enough to get it out then surely thats a winner because im guessing i would have to de-pressurise the system?
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^^^
You can get the spline bits online or think halfords do a small set.
Could do more damage bending the pipes :scared:
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Went to vw to get a cam follower today but they had none in so ordered me one for tommorow. I cant find any bloody spline bits anywhere though! Has anyone tried doing it without taking the pipes off and letting the metal pipes bend a bit? or should i order one? If they bend enough to get it out then surely thats a winner because im guessing i would have to de-pressurise the system?
I bought a set of 11 off ebay which arrived really fast - only just over £6 and sure to be useful in the future :happy2:
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Changed mine today, along with the DV and PCV. Took me just under 1 hour and 1/2 to do all three, the hardest part was taking the engine cover off! Don't know why they didn't just use 4 torx screws rather than the rubbish rubber plugs!
Anyway this is what mine looked like after 50k miles, hardly any wear at all. Obviously a well looked after car, Matt :happy2:
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As you say, very little wear there... I bet it's standard... Staged cars seem to chew through the follower more quickly, stands to reason really.
Mine looked worse than yours after 25k Stage 2.
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Went to vw to get a cam follower today but they had none in so ordered me one for tommorow. I cant find any bloody spline bits anywhere though! Has anyone tried doing it without taking the pipes off and letting the metal pipes bend a bit? or should i order one? If they bend enough to get it out then surely thats a winner because im guessing i would have to de-pressurise the system?
As others have said, definitely get the tools rather than bending the pipe... you'd have to bend it a fair amount to get the follower out... not worth it bud. :happy2:
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As you say, very little wear there... I bet it's standard... Staged cars seem to chew through the follower more quickly, stands to reason really.
Mine looked worse than yours after 25k Stage 2.
It's great to see all these cam followers and the respective age/mileage info, so keep 'em coming. :happy2:
Apart from one or two with potential cam lobe problems, the unmodified cars seem to be ok, which is good.
Rich.
@Camfollower: "Sig was great".... Indeed it was! Can't you put it back on? It would be worth another 5 day ban for the amount of pleasure it gives the rest of us. :wink:
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As you say, very little wear there... I bet it's standard... Staged cars seem to chew through the follower more quickly, stands to reason really.
Mine looked worse than yours after 25k Stage 2.
Yeah it is standard. Think i will still change the follower at every service interval anyway, very much doubt it would need to be done that often but for £28 its not exactly a huge expense.
Excellent work on the campaign follower :happy2:
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Went to vw to get a cam follower today but they had none in so ordered me one for tommorow. I cant find any bloody spline bits anywhere though! Has anyone tried doing it without taking the pipes off and letting the metal pipes bend a bit? or should i order one? If they bend enough to get it out then surely thats a winner because im guessing i would have to de-pressurise the system?
Having just replaced one with the banjo bolt I can say that I would not risk trying to bend the pipes. I bought a 1/4" bit off ebay for about £5 delivered, used on a ratchet with an extension and once I found the sweet spot to give me enough room to move it the removal was very easy. My fuel pump didn't have a valve on it to de-pressurise like the one in the guide, I found when I undid the nut on the right of the pump a small amount of fuel drained out but it was minimal. Took under an hr from start to finish and i'm a rank amateur!
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When I done this I didn't have the tool for the banjo bolt, I undone the clips on the pipe at the front of the engine and it allowed me to pull the pump out enough
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new to the forum but this is a no brainer just like only touching a gti with anual service history. keep up the good work gents awarness is key!
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Had mine replaced as soon as i got the car the garage new about the proplem took them about an hour to do :happy2: well worth it for piece of mind!
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Went to vw to get a cam follower today but they had none in so ordered me one for tommorow. I cant find any bloody spline bits anywhere though! Has anyone tried doing it without taking the pipes off and letting the metal pipes bend a bit? or should i order one? If they bend enough to get it out then surely thats a winner because im guessing i would have to de-pressurise the system?
As others have said, definitely get the tools rather than bending the pipe... you'd have to bend it a fair amount to get the follower out... not worth it bud. :happy2:
If i was running an aftermarket fuel pump or Internals increasing loads on the camshaft, then i would replace the follower yearly.
Running a stock pump will only have slight wear over time and worth checking every couple of years or so.
Damage seems to occur more often on High tune setups or lots of high speed track days.
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Judging by year isnt helpful.... i would certainly say it needs checking every 10,000 miles at the most. More frequently if you are using a upgraded HPFP
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Without creating a new thread I was wondering if anyone knows of a mechanic that can do this is Suffolk. My local stealer is quoting around £130 to have this done.
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Got my done today. It wasn't really worn, but I'm glad I did it. Just peace of mind. Definitely worth replacing.
Thanks to all the posts and members for their feedback on this.....
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Camfollower got a permanent ban from SteveP, because of a one time dodgy signature strip. Watch out people! :stupid: Harsh forum. :sad1:
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Camfollower got a permanent ban from SteveP, because of a one time dodgy signature strip. Watch out people! :stupid: Harsh forum. :sad1:
He was getting a bit cocky though tbh :grin:
He was the champion of cam follower awareness so thumbs up for that :happy2:
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What did he put in his sig?
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Camfollower got a permanent ban from SteveP, because of a one time dodgy signature strip. Watch out people! :stupid: Harsh forum. :sad1:
He was getting a bit cocky though tbh :grin:
He was the champion of cam follower awareness so thumbs up for that :happy2:
I've just read through his posts, dont see any cockiness at all tbh. SteveP must've had a problem with him that he couldn't work out. Thanks for the thread though :happy2:
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I changed my follower at the weekend, 2008 GTI stage 1 since at least 25k, and the hardened coating was worn through. No indentations or wear on the metal below, however seeing the lack of coating was enough to make me glad I'd spent the 28 quid :happy2: took me 30 mins
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Definitely going to do mine before it gets mapped... Lol, I keep adding things to the list, so far: cam follower, dump valve rev G, spark plugs, precat removal, and possibly s3 brakes. Going to be skint :grin:
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Got mine done after buying my GTI. 83k miles and had never been done previously.
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is this something that affects modified cars only?
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as some of you may be aware mine failed in November :fighting: literally broke Into pieces
needed a new set of internals
hpfp housing and my cam sorted
well the same happened again 2 weeks ago...car did 5K and the new follower broke up again!
so its just had a new hpfp and new cam, new hpfp housing and also a new fsi unit too all under warranty
its become clear that VW have had a dodgy batch of these....not wearing just breaking up into pieces
so ive got lots of shiny new bits now and the car is so smooth to drive!
but my advice is if you have replaced it in the last year then check it, vw uk are looking into it, the bottom of the follower just falls off
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I tried to get a price from my local VW dealer (Robinsons in Norwich) but they left me a message stating it would cost £1,600!!
Think they've totally got the wrong end of the stick here but I was very clear in what I needed changing, although he didnt seem to be aware of them having changed any of these in the past and took him 3 days to come back with the quote.
What could they have got confused with here and what should I tell them exactly so they understand I just want the cam follower changed?
Thanks for any advice as I am keen to get this changed for peace of mind.
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Call them and say you want part number 06D 109 309C changed. I think VW call it a 'tappet', not a cam follower. Tell them it's 30 minutes labour, no more.
The price they've quoted is for a full cam replacement.
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vw uk are looking into it, the bottom of the follower just falls off
This is worrying. Is your car mapped and do you have an aftermarket fuel pump fitted?
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Call them and say you want part number 06D 109 309C changed. I think VW call it a 'tappet', not a cam follower. Tell them it's 30 minutes labour, no more.
The price they've quoted is for a full cam replacement.
Thanks mate, will give them a call :happy2:
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vw uk are looking into it, the bottom of the follower just falls off
This is worrying. Is your car mapped and do you have an aftermarket fuel pump fitted?
the first time I did the second the car was stock
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So VW called me back and they still can't seem to give me a price on this after I gave them the part number for the cam follower!?!
I've given them the background and info supplied on the forum but they're asking me to go and see their workshop manager with my car so they can try and make sense of their pricing!
Really don't understand why they aren't quoting me similar prices to what others have paid from dealers/independants for what seems like a straight forward job?
Any further help?
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Had the same problem with my local stealers, tried to quote me £1100 and to get me booked in for it also HA!
I heard the part is around £30-£50 and i'm sure it wouldn't take longer than 1 hour labour or so, sooooo where the frig is £1100 coming from? :signLOL:
STEALERS for a reason! :grin:
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Had the same problem with my local stealers, tried to quote me £1100 and to get me booked in for it also HA!
I heard the part is around £30-£50 and i'm sure it wouldn't take longer than 1 hour labour or so, sooooo where the frig is £1100 coming from? :signLOL:
STEALERS for a reason! :grin:
Yep, £1,600 quoted for mine! :rolleye:
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£1600 to fit a £25 part that can be fitted under an hour? Glad I no longer use VW for maintenance and servicing
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^^^ In fairness it's pretty obvious that the dealer is quoting for a completely different job to be carried out.
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Done mine today, was easy. Car is a 55 plate at 94k
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So VW called me back and they still can't seem to give me a price on this after I gave them the part number for the cam follower!?!
I've given them the background and info supplied on the forum but they're asking me to go and see their workshop manager with my car so they can try and make sense of their pricing!
Really don't understand why they aren't quoting me similar prices to what others have paid from dealers/independants for what seems like a straight forward job?
Any further help?
Why not print out the how too guide and take it into them. Or just follow it yourself.
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So VW called me back and they still can't seem to give me a price on this after I gave them the part number for the cam follower!?!
I've given them the background and info supplied on the forum but they're asking me to go and see their workshop manager with my car so they can try and make sense of their pricing!
Really don't understand why they aren't quoting me similar prices to what others have paid from dealers/independants for what seems like a straight forward job?
Any further help?
Just follow a guide and do it yourself mate. It's an easy job, just take your time and it'll be very easy. I changed 2 in half hour and I'd never done the job before. At least if u do it u know its been done properly
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^^^ In fairness it's pretty obvious that the dealer is quoting for a completely different job to be carried out.
^This. :happy2:
I think most have never changed a cam follower, so not sure what the book time is on it.
Naughty though, as it's been a bullitin item. :surprised:
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Finally got round to doing this today. Its an easy process apart from that Banjo bolt, which took forever to open and then close afterwards.
I took some pics of the removed cam follower. 101.5k on the car, had it from brand new, 55k with a Stage 1 remap.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpSeXZqW.jpg&hash=442379dd8704981f698fb89da06cdc73777f599e)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrFjRlpL.jpg&hash=3504ace2056fd576d55d14ace6a68c71ab39551c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ftak6W3E.jpg&hash=b4e55955c7702a051272aec3bb99b5a8a1d9fda6)
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I did mine yesterday, a nice easy job. Would of been even easier if my 13mm socket was a deep one rather than standard!
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Got mine changed over whilst down at AKS over the weekend doing a few other bits. :evilgrin:
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For the price and the time it takes I would check the Cam at least once a year.
The price to monitor is far cheaper than a failed Cam :happy2:
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Changed mine last weekend, it had only just worn the black coating off! car is on 99k now, edition 30 running a sage 1 map. Not sure if it had been changed before but I'm not complaining at the condition of it
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Finally got round to doing this today. Its an easy process apart from that Banjo bolt, which took forever to open and then close afterwards.
I took some pics of the removed cam follower. 101.5k on the car, had it from brand new, 55k with a Stage 1 remap.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpSeXZqW.jpg&hash=442379dd8704981f698fb89da06cdc73777f599e)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrFjRlpL.jpg&hash=3504ace2056fd576d55d14ace6a68c71ab39551c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ftak6W3E.jpg&hash=b4e55955c7702a051272aec3bb99b5a8a1d9fda6)
I would say you need a camshaft :scared:
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because too a techy and cam follower is a part that follows the cam...its a tiny part but a cylinder head job in reality.
VW call it a "bucket" if you ask for a cam follower there at the cam system on ekta and see the small followers and think its that part.
we just call it the wrong part :signLOL: