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Title: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: karl210 on April 29, 2013, 03:55:20 pm
After getting my wheels refurbed and them turning out like this  :confused: :
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nSkCpIWVayQ/UWcnFgs9G_I/AAAAAAAAAFY/LEAGQcmZm2k/w516-h387/2013+-+2)

I really need to get them done asap. Im going to buy myself a gun to go with my compressor and other needed bits to paint my wheels buttt, ive never done it before so i guess its about time i learn  :happy2: Been eager to learn and get my own gear for a while and i think its something i wouldnt be too bad at once ive learned it.
So im going to be painting 4 18" monza alloy wheels in a gunmetal grey, the centre peice of my ed30 splitter and my mirror covers in the same colour. I will also be re-doing my splitter in black magic as its taken a beating from stone chips.
Now im wondering if you guys can give me any advice on any tips/techniques down to exactly what im going to need for the job.
So basically what type of paint to use, basecoat, solvent, waterbase etc
How much primer, paint, lacquer im going to need
A mate has reccomended i use something called rocket to speed up drying time is this good advice? Give me your knowledge  :happy2: meanwhile im going to be busy researching, cheers
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: Top Cat on April 29, 2013, 09:36:14 pm
Is that Boron blue.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: Hedge on April 29, 2013, 09:44:49 pm
 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: bacillus on April 29, 2013, 10:00:04 pm
Please don't paint your bits...   :laugh:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: chrisr763 on April 29, 2013, 10:14:29 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs516%2Fchrisr766%2F7_zps5880a1d8.jpg&hash=a3c45f7d9d694fbc6ebf2310a26145a14da64ed3)

 :happy2:

All i can say is... when painting yourself, always expect the finish to not be as good as factory. (IF it is... BONUS  :laugh:)

Prep is key... Get the surface as clean and as flat as you can. Primer then sand it smooth. You want to lay paint down VERY thin in lots of layers.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: rich83 on April 29, 2013, 10:27:50 pm
Is that Boron blue.  :laugh:


 :grin:

Are those photos still in circulation?
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: karl210 on April 29, 2013, 10:44:54 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fs516%2Fchrisr766%2F7_zps5880a1d8.jpg&hash=a3c45f7d9d694fbc6ebf2310a26145a14da64ed3)

 :happy2:

All i can say is... when painting yourself, always expect the finish to not be as good as factory. (IF it is... BONUS  :laugh:)

Prep is key... Get the surface as clean and as flat as you can. Primer then sand it smooth. You want to lay paint down VERY thin in lots of layers.  :happy2:

And thats how it should look! not some awful tank primer gray/blue.
Ive always been able to do a good job with rattle cans so ive got a basic idea im mostly confused with all the different types of paints and hardners and thinners etc. cheers
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: Top Cat on April 29, 2013, 10:46:05 pm
Is that Boron blue.  :laugh:


 :grin:

Are those photos still in circulation?

A quick search came back with a few threads having a laugh about them but no pics.  :sad1: Anyway it is best not to talk about them as he could never see the funny side of it.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FDaft_stuff%2Fb8r77m.gif&hash=114df3a049a84d1f4d348e7fb2e54c3508423aeb)
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: rich83 on April 30, 2013, 09:10:27 am
^^^^  :laugh:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on April 30, 2013, 09:24:37 am
Is that Boron blue.  :laugh:


 :grin:

Are those photos still in circulation?

A quick search came back with a few threads having a laugh about them but no pics.  :sad1: Anyway it is best not to talk about them as he could never see the funny side of it.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftomashandmilly%2FDaft_stuff%2Fb8r77m.gif&hash=114df3a049a84d1f4d348e7fb2e54c3508423aeb)

 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: karl210 on April 30, 2013, 10:19:26 am
have i missed something?  :confused: at least 1 person is helpfull
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: Scottymon on April 30, 2013, 10:30:43 am
As someone else said, prep is the key, so make sure the surface is sanded and ultra smooth for a good finish.

Are you planning to use spray cans?  I did, but it's not easy, as they can spit; better to use lots of thin layers rather than less heavy ones.

I sprayed my old white wormed wheels, but knowing they were going to be just for winter.  They've lasted ok so far, although a bit of lacquer is coming off inside the wheel nut recesses :( But more than suitable for keeping my summer wheels healthy.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voodish.co.uk%2Fmisc%2Fb4-after-monza-18.jpg&hash=e1e0d2f7e7b886ef1944b0b2371cfd48af3af094)
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: karl210 on April 30, 2013, 10:40:07 am
they look pretty good! They got refurbed less than 2 months ago so there already in great shape. So im guessing i just need to get rid of the lacquer and key the surface. No i will be doing it using a spray gun. Ive painted wheels before using rattle cans and it came out ok but i want to get a gun so i can do my splitter and mirror covers and finally learn. cheers
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: Scottymon on April 30, 2013, 10:47:10 am
After masking, I used nitromors to take the lacquer off, then sanded for what seemed like an eternity (only because of the corrosion)... I think I started with 1200 grit, but that was taking too long, so used 800  :surprised: but followed up with 1000, 1200.  Best to test the least abrasive to start with - You'll get through yours in no time - good luck mate! :happy2:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: garrardrj on April 30, 2013, 11:56:23 am
Get them done professionally , it makes sense in time and quality of finish
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: karl210 on April 30, 2013, 01:34:35 pm
Get them done professionally , it makes sense in time and quality of finish

Yeah will do if your paying? To be honest I paid for them to be refurbed once and dont fancy paying again, besides I wouldnt mind learning and doing the odd bits
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: garrardrj on April 30, 2013, 01:53:32 pm
Get them done professionally , it makes sense in time and quality of finish

Yeah will do if your paying? To be honest I paid for them to be refurbed once and dont fancy paying again, besides I wouldnt mind learning and doing the odd bits

They will cost £300 to be done properly , you will never be able to reproduce the finish or duarbility of Professional finished ones . I have done them before years ago when money was tight and they don't last very long (18mths) and you then need to do them again . Suppose it depends on how long you are going to keep the car for . Poorly finished wheels will also show when you come to sell and that will put of the buyer (because what else have you cut corners on to save money) It also like having cheap tyres , shows the prospective buyer that money was an issue to the seller etc .

My advice is free too  :innocent:
Title: Re: Any advice before i paint my wheels and bits?
Post by: karl210 on April 30, 2013, 04:20:48 pm
I will be doing the splitter and mirrors too so thatl bump it up at even more. I agree with what your saying about the tyres though, I will probably be going for some new wheels in 6 or so months anyway, so if they last me that then great. It is something I lve wanted to give a go for a while so why not