Post by: jacobrownoly on August 10, 2015, 11:05:15 pm
I have a stage 2+ (ko3) on standard brakes. I am finding that with the additional power the brakes aren't great so I am looking for the a good way/cheap way to uprate them.
I have looked at s3 and r32 set ups but its just too expensive so what would you guys recommend.
Thanks.
Post by: Rbailey88 on August 11, 2015, 12:09:23 am
Post by: flashp on August 11, 2015, 06:29:46 am
Hello, I know this has probably been covered to death but I can't really see what I am looking for so here goes.
I have a stage 2+ (ko3) on standard brakes. I am finding that with the additional power the brakes aren't great so I am looking for the a good way/cheap way to uprate them.
I have looked at s3 and r32 set ups but its just too expensive so what would you guys recommend.
Thanks.
My first thought was S3 / R32. Great setup for the road and that power. Because they'd be standard VAG parts I've found insurance companies are ok with it in that it probably won't attract a premium. If that's out of reach then Ferrodo DS2500 pads, ATE super blue fluid may help you out. :happy2:
I'm not sure you'll get anything worth having for less than the cost of an S3 setup. If you find something you'll have to be very cautious about how much you'll have to spend to get them fitted (parts & adapters etc), serviceable and not looking too tatty.
Post by: dansmith180 on August 11, 2015, 08:25:00 am
Post by: olethalb on August 11, 2015, 08:31:33 am
could upgrade to better pads at later date if you decide they aren't enough but they should be plenty for your needs
if not a mate may be selling his 320mm set up using r32 calipers and DTM carriers, they work very well again recent discs and pads £200
Post by: mvb12 on August 11, 2015, 08:43:32 am
whats going to come next? My tyres are bold! Can anyone recommend rock bottom budget tyres, i cant afford decent ones.
Hate seeing these threads!
Post by: xjay1337 on August 11, 2015, 09:19:23 am
Post by: dansmith180 on August 11, 2015, 01:15:42 pm
If the R32/S3 set up is too expensive, have you considered getting a car you could afford to mod or just not mod at all?
whats going to come next? My tyres are bold! Can anyone recommend rock bottom budget tyres, i cant afford decent ones.
Hate seeing these threads!
Well said mate, I was too polite to say it. Not usually a problem for me. :congrats:
Too many people chasing numbers before sorting brakes and suspension.
Post by: AJP on August 11, 2015, 01:23:48 pm
Get your hand in your pocket ffs. R32 brakes are peanuts. (In direct relation to the cost of Stage 2+)
I'm going for TTRS asap, and I'll 'only' be Stage 1 for the forseable. Overkill? No.
Post by: Matthewsimone on August 11, 2015, 01:26:28 pm
If the R32/S3 set up is too expensive, have you considered getting a car you could afford to mod or just not mod at all?
whats going to come next? My tyres are bold! Can anyone recommend rock bottom budget tyres, i cant afford decent ones.
Hate seeing these threads!
Hence why I leave mine completely standard, not because a can't afford mods/upgrades but simply because a can't justify it to drive on uk overcrowded camera ridden roads, the Gti is agreat road car to start with a seriously don't get why people want to build super fast road cars!
Simply pointless
Track monster yes, road car waste of money :pomppomp:
Post by: xjay1337 on August 11, 2015, 04:10:09 pm
Sensible thought is the consensus here. Good to see.
Get your hand in your pocket ffs. R32 brakes are peanuts. (In direct relation to the cost of Stage 2+)
I'm going for TTRS asap, and I'll 'only' be Stage 1 for the forseable. Overkill? No.
I had TTRS setup on a stock CR170 for about 3 weeks hahahaa :mad: :signLOL:
Post by: GTi-Andy on August 11, 2015, 04:23:46 pm
Agree Marv, you can buy R32 setups ready to bolt on for £300 these days.
Point me in the direction of some £300 R32 setups as I'd be interested in that. ta
Post by: Shoduchi on August 11, 2015, 04:33:41 pm
For road use you can just think about better pads. That will make a good difference and won't be that expensive, compared with a new brake setup.
The best and cheapest are the front brakes from the R32/R20/S3/Cupra, then the brakes from the Porsche Boxter/Cayman 986 with OEM 312 mm discs and Vagbremtechnic carriers, then the TTRS brakes with Vagbremtechnic carriers to use TTS 340 mm discs and then Brembo 17Z or 18Z. Better options are much more expensive, mostly due to using 2-piece discs, AFAIK.
Post by: xjay1337 on August 11, 2015, 05:03:08 pm
Agree Marv, you can buy R32 setups ready to bolt on for £300 these days.
Point me in the direction of some £300 R32 setups as I'd be interested in that. ta
LOADS on facebook for sale groups mate.
Post by: GTi-Andy on August 11, 2015, 05:09:33 pm
Post by: Shoduchi on August 11, 2015, 05:18:45 pm
think I must be looking in the wrong place, coz I cant see any for £300https://www.facebook.com/groups/529405700525327/permalink/666750943457468/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/529405700525327/permalink/666750943457468/) -> Audi s3 345mm brake calipers 36k mikes: 300 £
Two other for sale at 350 £.
Post by: flashp on August 12, 2015, 01:01:16 pm
Post by: edd30 on August 12, 2015, 04:24:36 pm
I'm selling a S3 setup for £300. :driver:
Post by: Dave J on August 21, 2015, 10:55:43 pm
I've always felt the brakes on my ED30 are the worst point of the car, even in standard trim.
£300-£350 for a used R32/S3/TTS set-up is good value, IMHO. I remember when R32/TT3.2 front brakes were going for about £500 on the mkiv platform. Discs for the mkiv R32 were very expensive for the time - I have a receipt here for £130 per side (I think - they were floating discs off the RS4 of the time...). Loved one of my earliest ebay days when I won a genuine bargain of a new OEM disc for £16... I must say, the full R32 set-up on my mkiv 1.8t felt great.
Next Friday I will have a set of TTS calipers, 340mm brembo front discs, DS2500 front pads & full R32 rear set-up fitted.
Will post up my thoughts then on how they slow down an otherwise standard powered ED30...
Post by: chrisr763 on August 22, 2015, 10:11:57 am
Post by: dansmith180 on August 22, 2015, 10:24:05 am
I'm assuming a set of TTRS brakes on the standard 370mm disks and decent pads is still a bad setup due to the disks warping? Or am I wrong? ...
Its not a bad setup at all but if you really push it/ track it there is a chance they'll warp on you. The reason I went for the 340 discs is because adaptors + discs cost the same as a set of TTRS discs anyways and are much cheaper to replace so was an easy choice for me.
Post by: chrisr763 on August 22, 2015, 10:26:45 am
I'm assuming a set of TTRS brakes on the standard 370mm disks and decent pads is still a bad setup due to the disks warping? Or am I wrong? ...
Its not a bad setup at all but if you really push it/ track it there is a chance they'll warp on you. The reason I went for the 340 discs is because adaptors + discs cost the same as a set of TTRS discs anyways and are much cheaper to replace so was an easy choice for me.
Suppose that makes sense. I'm looking to buy a TTRS kit that I can just bolt on, and the bigger the better in terms of looks
running 19's anyway so need to fill the space. What's a good upgrade for the rear, R8 rears looks good, like 356mm. Any need to upgrade the master cylinder?
Post by: dansmith180 on August 22, 2015, 10:36:02 am
You could by my Cayenne rear calipers and put this kit on :evilgrin:
http://www.creationsmotorsport.com/product-detail.php?pid=666
Post by: chrisr763 on August 22, 2015, 10:42:51 am
@Chris92 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7494) I don't think you 'need' to do it but to get the most out of it you should. However of its more of an aesthetics upgrade and won't be used on track then it should be fine without an MC upgrade.
You could by my Cayenne rear calipers and put this kit on :evilgrin:
http://www.creationsmotorsport.com/product-detail.php?pid=666
Thanks for your help chap. Shouldn't have any track use really, il stick to karting
Brakes will be for looks, good to know that they don't warp too easily.
Post by: Shoduchi on August 22, 2015, 12:53:19 pm
Post by: dansmith180 on August 22, 2015, 03:29:02 pm
I still wonder why not more people here fit Brembos 18Z or 17Z with 6 pots. With the right wheel they don't even require spacers. The price is similar to a TTRS set but the adaptors are much cheaper. :confused:
I think its because they're 6 pots instead of 4 so there's some concern about spongey pedal feel and not wanting to have to do a MC upgrade.
Post by: Shoduchi on August 22, 2015, 03:46:55 pm
Yeah, it was my guess too. My Ed. 30 improved its pedal feel so it's easier to brake smoother now for what my mechanic told me. Before the pedal didn't have almost any travel. For what I've seen searching ETKA my Ed. 30 should have the bigger MC, like the R32, so it's perfectly fine.I still wonder why not more people here fit Brembos 18Z or 17Z with 6 pots. With the right wheel they don't even require spacers. The price is similar to a TTRS set but the adaptors are much cheaper. :confused:
I think its because they're 6 pots instead of 4 so there's some concern about spongey pedal feel and not wanting to have to do a MC upgrade.
Any R32, mk6 GTI and R20 has the bigger MC, but not all mk5 GTI got it, for what I've found online. Anyone who has the bigger MC can do it without worries.
My friend with a mk5 GTI APR Stage 3 from 2007 has the full Cayenne Turbo/Q7/Touareg setup and he does complain a bit about the pedal travel. The car brakes well, it just doesn't recover completely after repeated use.
It'd be worth checking which MC the car has fitted to choose which setup to go for. :smiley:
Post by: Johnsy on August 22, 2015, 10:49:01 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz286%2Flajohnz%2Fimage.jpg2_15.jpg&hash=79eea047ea0a1e21959bbb4af97d45848c470fe1)
My Cupra front brakes will be for sale soon, coming off MY61 reg,25k mile Seat.
Looking forward to the improved stopping power
Post by: chrisr763 on August 23, 2015, 01:45:46 am
My shiney TTRS calipers waiting to be fitted
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz286%2Flajohnz%2Fimage.jpg2_15.jpg&hash=79eea047ea0a1e21959bbb4af97d45848c470fe1)
My Cupra front brakes will be for sale soon, coming off MY61 reg,25k mile Seat.
Looking forward to the improved stopping power
Did you get those referbed? If so.. Who by and how much did they charge? :)
Post by: Johnsy on August 23, 2015, 07:54:06 am
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Did you get those referbed? If so.. Who by and how much did they charge? :)
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I bought them from a company on eBay who specialise in caliper refurbs, core supplies I think, I paid £350 delivered .They are available in a range of colours and decals
Post by: Andy on August 23, 2015, 09:22:24 am
Post by: chrisr763 on August 23, 2015, 10:15:42 am
Did you get those referbed? If so.. Who by and how much did they charge? :)
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I bought them from a company on eBay who specialise in caliper refurbs, core supplies I think, I paid £350 delivered .They are available in a range of colours and decals
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Can you remember the name of the company, interested to go take a look now :)
Post by: Johnsy on August 23, 2015, 11:34:39 am
Did you get those referbed? If so.. Who by and how much did they charge? :)
I bought them from a company on eBay who specialise in caliper refurbs, core supplies I think, I paid £350 delivered .They are available in a range of colours and decals
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Can you remember the name of the company, interested to go take a look now :)
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Here's the eBay link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-ttrs-4pot-brembo-front-calipers-/161723824137?hash=item25a77db809
Post by: bbfb10 on August 23, 2015, 09:54:54 pm