Bluefin Stage 2

[Hedge]

TBH, im unsure as to what Boost runs on stage 2..

I dont have a boost gauge, nor do i know how to check on vcds, even though i have a Micro Can VCDS

Go and do some logs. Measure Actual versus Requested Boost and Ambient pressure.

There has been load written on here about how to do them even Ross Tech tell you how.

[liver]

good link i found

http://www.goapr.com/support/datalogging.php

[Hedge]

No need it's even closer to home. 

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,17636.0.html

[Janner_Sy]

thats similar to what mine was doing with regards to boost.  creates a very erratic power delivery.  Stage 1 was good if a little underpowered, stage 2 was really bad.  stage 2+ improved on stage 2 by quite alot but was still lacking in the delivery and outright power.

Quite a few guys had issues with bluefin on the K03 TFSI when they went to stage 2, a good 4 of us on briskoda ended up changing tuner eventually which slved the issue.

Not sure why it is, the map on the Ed30 K04 GTI seems to be really good, but the K03 is really pants.  I took logs and all sorts of mine and was sendin them to superchips to get the map adjusted.

The deal breaker for me was when i mentioned the guys with other remaps were easily getting 300lbft, yet mine  at stage 2+ was only managing about 270lbft, theyre response was anything getting over 300lbft is at  risk of snapping the camshafts.  They lost me at that point

[Saint Steve]

Ive managed to do some succesfully, but need someone to have a browse over...Anyone??

Timing on a couple of occasions and Fuel rail pressure might be an issue.

i would post on here but the message box on here is too short to list properly.

 

[heavyd]

Easiest way to put them up on here is,
Open it up log in excel, format the page until it fits the screen. Press the printscreen button on keyboard. Open up 'paint' click paste. Then save it as a jpeg, upload it to photobucket etc. Simples
Personally I thought stage 2 was better than stage 1, but I thought all 3 Superchips maps felt too flat until the revs got high up, was all or nothing compared to all the other maps I had.

[Saint Steve]

I think the maps asking for too much fuel pressure which my standard pump cant deliver.
The timings being retarded because of it..

[heavyd]

Get the logs up
is the timing a + or a - ?
if its a - then its running rich.

[Saint Steve]

its -6.8 at its worst.. timing retards because the stock fuel pump cant supply what the maps asking. i will post logs to you via email, if you have an email address to you can see them clearly rather then out of sync on here if you like?

[heavyd]

doesnt sound nice. this was the only stage 2 log of mine that I could find, its a pdtuning remap though. might do for a comparison?

[garrardrj]

thats similar to what mine was doing with regards to boost.  creates a very erratic power delivery.  Stage 1 was good if a little underpowered, stage 2 was really bad.  stage 2+ improved on stage 2 by quite alot but was still lacking in the delivery and outright power.

Quite a few guys had issues with bluefin on the K03 TFSI when they went to stage 2, a good 4 of us on briskoda ended up changing tuner eventually which slved the issue.

Not sure why it is, the map on the Ed30 K04 GTI seems to be really good, but the K03 is really pants.  I took logs and all sorts of mine and was sendin them to superchips to get the map adjusted.

The deal breaker for me was when i mentioned the guys with other remaps were easily getting 300lbft, yet mine  at stage 2+ was only managing about 270lbft, theyre response was anything getting over 300lbft is at  risk of snapping the camshafts.  They lost me at that point

Snapping Camshafts ! What is an Ed30 engine rated upto ?

The Volvo sourced Focus ST engine internals are rated to 1000bhp

[Saint Steve]

thats similar to what mine was doing with regards to boost.  creates a very erratic power delivery.  Stage 1 was good if a little underpowered, stage 2 was really bad.  stage 2+ improved on stage 2 by quite alot but was still lacking in the delivery and outright power.

Quite a few guys had issues with bluefin on the K03 TFSI when they went to stage 2, a good 4 of us on briskoda ended up changing tuner eventually which slved the issue.

Not sure why it is, the map on the Ed30 K04 GTI seems to be really good, but the K03 is really pants.  I took logs and all sorts of mine and was sendin them to superchips to get the map adjusted.

The deal breaker for me was when i mentioned the guys with other remaps were easily getting 300lbft, yet mine  at stage 2+ was only managing about 270lbft, theyre response was anything getting over 300lbft is at  risk of snapping the camshafts.  They lost me at that point

Snapping Camshafts ! What is an Ed30 engine rated upto ?

The Volvo sourced Focus ST engine internals are rated to 1000bhp

I wouldnt stand near that with a open bonnet 

[Saint Steve]

doesnt sound nice. this was the only stage 2 log of mine that I could find, its a pdtuning remap though. might do for a comparison?

what mods is that running??

 Thats how it should look, mine isnt

[heavyd]

at the time  it had full milltek TBE, brand new OEM fuel pump, forge twintake

[Saint Steve]

Well this is the timing , completely all over the shop....

Group 20 - Field 0   Group 20 - Field 1   Group 20 - Field 2   Group 20 - Field 3   Group 114 - Field 3   Group 115 - Field 0
Cylinder 1 Ignition - Angle Delay   Cylinder 2 Ignition - Angle Delay   Cylinder 3 Ignition - Angle Delay   Cylinder 4 Ignition - Angle Delay    (N75) - Duty Cycle   Engine Speed
°KW   °KW   °KW   °KW   0%   /min
0   0   -1.5   0   88.6   1480
0   0   -3.8   -1.5   90.2   1560
-1.5   0   -3.8   -1.5   90.2   1680
-4.5   -1.5   -3.8   -3   90.2   1800
-4.5   -1.5   -5.3   -3   92.5   1960
-6   -1.5   -6   -3   94.9   2080
-6   -1.5   -6   -3   94.9   2240
-6   -0.8   -6   -2.3   94.9   2440
-6   -0.8   -6   -2.3   81.2   2640
-5.3   -2.3   -5.3   -2.3   67.8   2960
-5.3   -3.8   -6.8   -3.8   54.5   3120
-5.3   -3.8   -6.8   -3.8   53.3   3400
-5.3   -3.8   -6.8   -3.8   52.5   3600
-4.5   -3.8   -6.8   -3.8   52.2   3840
-4.5   -3   -6   -3   52.5   4080
-4.5   -3   -6   -3   53.7   4320
-3.8   -2.3   -5.3   -2.3   55.7   4560
-3.8   -3   -2.3   -3.8   56.1   4760
-3.8   -3   -2.3   -3.8   56.5   4960
-3   -4.5   -1.5   -3   53.7   5160
-3   -4.5   -1.5   -3   49.4   5320
-3   -4.5   -1.5   -3   58   5520
-3   -4.5   -1.5   -3   60   5680
-3   -4.5   -1.5   -3   53.7   5840
-2.3   -3.8   -0.8   -2.3   52.5   6000
-2.3   -3.8   -0.8   -2.3   58.8   6120
-2.3   -3.8   -2.3   -2.3   61.6   6280
-2.3   -3.8   -2.3   -2.3   53.7   6320