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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2009, 04:38:11 pm »
that sounds about it to me mate  :sad1:  have u had a chat with the old owner?

I think I'd be doing that :innocent:
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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2009, 04:39:55 pm »
Might be worth a quick look.
 
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_world/consumer_affairs/buying_second_hand_vehicles.htm

Gives a bit of information on your rights but you may well up going in a never ending cycle.
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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2009, 04:54:29 pm »
Might be worth a quick look.
 
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_world/consumer_affairs/buying_second_hand_vehicles.htm

Gives a bit of information on your rights but you may well up going in a never ending cycle.

Seems I certainly have a case, but I would rather avoid that way of resolving things, its not nice and I dont have time to be honest..

Thanks for the help everyone, not a great position to be in at the moment but hopefully I can get it sorted soon as and get the car on the road.. Dont think I can even count the drive home!
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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2009, 05:00:35 pm »
a 60 mile drive home will certainly not have had any effect! it seems to me this car has already been goosed and sold on!

id stick to my guns and say a steady drive home is no way the cause of whats happend!

gimme me a bell, we'll take the shot guns and camp outside! ;)

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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2009, 05:23:49 pm »
this is really bad news :( is there no way you could take the turbo off the ed30 for a bit just to get the s3 to the garage and covered under warranty??

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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2009, 06:08:37 pm »
Not very good news  :sad1:

Would be worth inspecting the damage to try to get an idea of the cause. You say it has big turbo and injectors so it will have been re-mapped.

Look for mechanical type damage, cracks or just general broken parts (eg the part of the piston that separates the rings) is more than likely excessive boost pressure.

Melting type damage or lots of pitting would usually suggest too much ignition timing and this tends to be concentrated round the plug area.

Once the piston is out your mechanic will be able to spot if anything out of the ordinary has been happening

Cylinders are suprisingly tough so unless its thrown a serious fit then that will probably be ok.

Also when the head is off check for signs of a damaged/bent conrod. When the crank is in a certain position all 4 pistons should be the same distance down the cylinder. If you've got any differences the rod is suspect.

Im not too familiar with the VAG 2.0 FSI but on some vehicles when messing with injectors its quite easy to nick a seal or pop them out leaving any excess fuel in the lines to spill into the cylinders. This then sits on top of the piston untill you turn it on the starter then the engine hydraulics causing damage. When swapping injectors it's always advisable to whip out all the plugs and give it a spin on the starter to clear any fuel that may have entered the cylinder.

Just a few ideas, hope you sort it

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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2009, 07:00:48 pm »
Get the head off and have a look,hopefully just scored the bores,so rebore drop in some forged pistons and rods .Nightmare either way but at least make it stronger .

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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2009, 08:52:39 pm »
This is terrible, sorry to hear it. I know what its like buying a car when the engine goes pop after buying it.

Did you test drive the car first? Sorry if its already been mentioned.
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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2009, 11:10:46 pm »
Get the head off and have a look,hopefully just scored the bores,so rebore drop in some forged pistons and rods .Nightmare either way but at least make it stronger .

My worry with going over bore is that it could run hot with there being less space between the combustion chambers and the water jackets etc??

This is terrible, sorry to hear it. I know what its like buying a car when the engine goes pop after buying it.

Did you test drive the car first? Sorry if its already been mentioned.

Yeah, had a good test drive, but that was 10 days before I collected it, so anything could have happened in that time..
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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2009, 07:16:13 pm »
Plenty of meat available for a 0.5mm overbore,you'd be mad to put drop-ins on a scored bore with a light hone.

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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2009, 07:17:46 pm »
Plenty of meat available for a 0.5mm overbore,you'd be mad to put drop-ins on a scored bore with a light hone.

I meant if there was no scoring, obviously I would re-bore if there was scoring  :confused:
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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2009, 07:29:34 pm »
If you have cracked/holed a piston it will be fubar'd.Who is doing the engine build?

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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2009, 07:55:07 pm »
If you have cracked/holed a piston it will be fubar'd.Who is doing the engine build?

I haven't 100% decided yet, there are a fair few options.. Sub 11 Motorsports possibly, but we'll have to see..

Im very much hoping its not, but I will find out tomorrow..
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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2009, 08:04:07 pm »
If you have cracked/holed a piston it will be fubar'd.Who is doing the engine build?

I haven't 100% decided yet, there are a fair few options.. Sub 11 Motorsports possibly, but we'll have to see..

Im very much hoping its not, but I will find out tomorrow..

sub11 motorsports....james hodson???  ex jabbasport dude with a wicked Mk2 golf plaything!   :happy2:

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Re: Problem with the S3, strange.. Help would be great!
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2009, 08:05:26 pm »
If you have cracked/holed a piston it will be fubar'd.Who is doing the engine build?

I haven't 100% decided yet, there are a fair few options.. Sub 11 Motorsports possibly, but we'll have to see..

Im very much hoping its not, but I will find out tomorrow..

sub11 motorsports....james hodson???  ex jabbasport dude with a wicked Mk2 golf plaything!   :happy2:

Yup, he's got plenty of experience of building very strong motors..
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