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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2020, 09:14:07 AM »
Now I’m tempted again 😂

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2020, 11:25:50 AM »
I’m 30, so it won’t increase massively but it will go up. I’ve put so much time, money and effort into my car I’d be terrified of something being put under too much strain from a map and then breaking etc... or worse, pumping all that money into the car and then something catastrophic happening like head gasket going 😬
After all the time some of us have spent on these MK5 forums, I myself cannot remember any head gaskets going. Also, APR has a Stage 1 'Low Torque' tune (https://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tfsi_trans.html) so the torque spike is flattened and no mods are needed. All for safety and elimination of concerns. A perfect tune for waking up a stock MK5 GTI without breaking the bank.

Very true!  Head gaskets never blow on these engines.

You could try a tune and if the clutch slips, well, just think of it as sh1t happens and deal with it as an when :smiley:  It's not like it slips all the time, only under hard load, which you can drive around. Everything else on the car is really strong and can handle it, it's just that VW chose to fit a weak clutch to keep the pedal effort low.  It's even worse on MK7s.  They can slip with stock power  :doh:

You can also fit a TTRS clutch plate, GTI/diesel friction disc and a new DMF for a more OEM approach, but I keep reading about huge pedal effort with that setup, and the cost of the parts isn't far off the Helix setup......which is also heavy, but not unmanageably so.  The beauty of the Helix is it's stock smooth, doesn't judder or make any nasty noises.


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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2020, 11:34:07 AM »
Yeah I have heard of the clutch slipping after 5k miles on mk7 R’s. I’ll probably just do it. If the clutch goes then so be it. To be honest after 110k I’m expecting to need a new clutch soon anyway. So if and when it does happen I’ll get a stock clutch replacement. Checked insurance and it’ll go from £360 to £500 which isn’t ideal but what’s £140 a year 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2020, 02:27:51 PM »
as you are a standard K03 its a bit less of an issue tbh
Id still book into a good specialist and choose a map that can be tweaked if needed to reduce or get rid of any clutch slip if it does rear its ugly head.
Like @Pudding  says a good once over on all the basics is your first priority, oil/filter pcv cam follower plugs coil packs fuel filter etc has it had a cam belt?
maybe even consider the bulk deal RTech offers for inlet cleaning too?
That way you get cleaning and healthcheck in am , followed by map in the pm.
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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2020, 02:35:33 PM »
Yeah it had the cam belt done in October, probably done about 3k last since. Had a new DV and cam follower last week. Oil changes and services all up to date. Think I’ll go with the apr map

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2020, 10:02:21 PM »
I have had a stage 1 APR map with an intake for a couple of years now. No clutch issues at all.
I don't thrash the car, I enjoy giving it the beans obviously now and again but take care with it as I want it to last. Coming up on 150k now.
Get it done :happy2:

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2020, 10:09:18 PM »
Is that still the original clutch?

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2020, 03:49:36 PM »
Mine sometimes slips in 3rd and 4th at high rpm as Pudding mentions. that's with 321hp/320ft lbs. 100,000 miles I'm not sure if it the original clutch.

I'm 36, and my insurance (Greenlight) did not change any extra going from stock to 320hp

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2020, 08:00:10 AM »
Take it to R-Tech
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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2020, 09:47:09 PM »
Is that still the original clutch?
As far as I know yes it is. Had the car for nearly six years and I have not had it done. I must drive like a pussy?
Only recently have I started using it every day so it has had an easy life.

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2020, 02:51:58 PM »
R-tech would map it to your mods/setup. Stages are just easy for people to think about roughly what mods they need for a rough power level really. I hadn't really come across stage 1/2/3 etc before I got my GTI.

Mine's on 172k, with the engine on about 72k and I shall be getting it mapped next year, just with the precat knocked out and a Pipercross replacement filter :)

I used to do the 300 mile round trip from Chesterfield to Newbury with my last car cos I knew the tuner was good, plus there weren't many in the UK and it wasn't a case of buying a plugin stage 1 chip.

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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2020, 08:25:15 AM »
I bought my Edition 30 with the rtech stage 1 on it and the clutch did worry me but I kept it in the back of my mind it will probably need doing in the future, luckily I can do it myself.
I don’t drive the car hard because the mid range performance in it is fantastic, I find it a bit too much for the public roads and gets you to silly speeds Very quickly but everyone is different.
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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2020, 04:43:57 PM »
Agree with that.  I'll give my ED30 a quick prod at 70mph to over take something and it's doing 100 in what feels like an instant.  I know there are massively faster cars out there but it stills surprises me the amount of poke a 13 year old 4 pot motor has.


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Re: Remaps and longevity?
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2020, 10:56:43 PM »
Agree with that.  I'll give my ED30 a quick prod at 70mph to over take something and it's doing 100 in what feels like an instant.  I know there are massively faster cars out there but it stills surprises me the amount of poke a 13 year old 4 pot motor has.

Yep... there are lots faster, but they are still a quick car.  :driver: