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Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« on: January 06, 2021, 09:56:51 AM »
Hi, odd one this.

I had the ESP light come on and realised my 4WD wasn't working. This carried on for an entire 30 mile trip and back again. I looked at fuses/connectors, but everything seems fine. Then I notices if I switch the ignition on (ESP warning light stays lit and no 4WD) then switch the ignition off and back on, it goes out and my 4WD works. I've tested this over weeks and there is no issue if I turn the ignition on/off/on... very odd and would indicate that it's not a dodgy connector or a corroding circuit board in the Haldex controller wouldn't it?

Any R32, Quattro or 4Motion drivers that have also seen this issue?

Cheers

Stu
« Last Edit: January 06, 2021, 10:01:33 AM by Stupots »
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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2021, 07:25:29 PM »
Does it all work now

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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2021, 08:13:01 PM »
Need fault codes checking surely.

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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2021, 09:40:31 AM »
Yes, there are fault codes, but if I on/off/on the ignition and reset them with VCDS, they clear and don't come back until I switch the ignition off/on again. If I just switch the ignition on so the ESP light stays on and therefore no 4WD then I cannot clear them with VCDS, as they reappear immediately.

My query isn 't so much the fault codes, it's the predictable not random nature of it; why would switching the ignition on as appose to on/off/on result in such different behaviour? The scenario I find most confusing is that, the switching on of ignition has different results to switching the ignition on/off/on. If I were to on/off/on the ignition, reset codes (or not).... drive 500 miles, everything would work fine and no fault codes (if I'd reset them) or lights until next time I get in the car and just switch on the ignition. This predictability says to me that there is no issue with the controller or connections as they would be random no?

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102 
   Revision: 00H13001   
   Coding: 0006786
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 72EB3C436D5AFA8E927-8027

1 Fault Found:
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492)
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 554 C
   Component: HALDEX 4Motion      0108 
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51EF3FB4E4E5760F5-8078

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective
02248 - Valve for Controlling Clutch Operating Angle (N373)
            014 - Defective

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Cheers

Stu
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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2021, 09:48:05 AM »
I'll add that I first noticed this after refitting the battery after taking it off to charge it, as it was getting a bit sluggish with the lack of miles and standing around most of the time these days.
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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2021, 07:46:59 AM »
Check the wiring and oil leaks:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01324

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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2021, 08:23:50 AM »
Thank @mjmallia i read those threads before posting and they do not reference the predictable intermittent nature. I.e. if my Haldex controller was faulty I it wouldn’t work perfectly when switching the ignition off and on again.
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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2021, 09:33:39 AM »
It's possible it keeps resetting the fault with ignition..its pointing to the haldex unit..there is a company who can check it is working
https://www.haldexrepairs.co.uk/
« Last Edit: January 08, 2021, 09:35:34 AM by Andy »

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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2021, 09:58:30 AM »
Thanks Andy, I'll ask them if they think it's the cause and plan to get it off to them if they suspect it is. I don't want the hassle of taking it off and posting it if it's something else.
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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2021, 10:00:25 AM »
yeah know what you mean as the haldex also works of the abs but its normally the pump which you can check with vcds

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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2021, 09:33:23 AM »
I got in touch with haldexrepairs via Facebook messenger and he was very helpful and explained that they have seen this (intermittent with the ignition) before and is likely caused by corrosion on the Haldex controller board. They do a no fix no fee (and will just return it if it tests ok) so I’ve got nothing to loose taking this off in the spring (when it’s warmer). I’ve got to do a Haldex oil service anyway so just another 2 bolts to remove the controller. £159 for the repair is good value and will hopefully do another 15 years 👍

Thanks @Andy
« Last Edit: January 10, 2021, 09:35:22 AM by Stupots »
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Re: Odd 4motion/Haldex Issue
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2021, 12:00:21 AM »
Glad i could help and other members to and fixs the problem