Make a donation

Author Topic: NQS BBK A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit..NQS Rear mods now.....  (Read 424521 times)

Offline jmspear

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 6
  • -Receive: 11
  • Posts: 240
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #150 on: June 09, 2010, 04:38:26 pm »
caliper bolts come in the kit, only thing i bought seperate was:

new disks
new pads
boxster wear sensors you only need one set as golf only has connections on the passenger side (the boxster has sensors both sides)
brake fluid

everything else was either in the kit or on the calipers or I had already - e.g caliper paint

Offline DaveB@Vagbremtechnic

  • Trader - 2014
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 130
  • Posts: 1315
    • Vagbremtechnic.com
    • Email
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #151 on: June 09, 2010, 08:48:01 pm »
Caliper mount bolts included.....

Before you paint them and a quickie tip - best thing to remove brake dust/crap = fairy liquid.

Simply put fairly liquid all over the calipers dry and start rubbing in your hands, come up good as new

Offline jmspear

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 6
  • -Receive: 11
  • Posts: 240
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #152 on: June 09, 2010, 08:55:30 pm »
another top tip.......I of course, as well as mounting the calipers upside down, used brake cleaner, powerwashed, followed by alloy wheel cleaner powerwashed, followed by more power washing, pretty effective at stripping off the old paint coating as well as the crap but kept the jet away from the seals ......

Offline SteveP

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 117
  • -Receive: 340
  • Posts: 6005
    • My Project
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #153 on: June 09, 2010, 09:54:37 pm »
Are the wear sensor required? Can you not just disable the sensors via VCDS?

I am hoping these are as good as the early reports, as look what Fedex delivered for me today   :laugh:






Offline gazbutS3

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 52
  • -Receive: 55
  • Posts: 3213
    • Email
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #154 on: June 09, 2010, 10:10:03 pm »
what are they for Steve?, what about the AP's?

Offline Poppa Dom

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 40
  • Posts: 1553
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #155 on: June 09, 2010, 10:12:56 pm »
Ewwww, well done Steve. Nice one. :happy2:

Offline SteveP

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 117
  • -Receive: 340
  • Posts: 6005
    • My Project
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #156 on: June 09, 2010, 10:14:00 pm »
what are they for Steve?, what about the AP's?

Yes they will be for the Mk6, once they are ready, the AP's will be moved on in time  :happy2:

Offline chungster

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 6
  • -Receive: 33
  • Posts: 1963
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #157 on: June 09, 2010, 10:33:29 pm »
WHAT!

You're gonna give up monster AP 6 pots for Porsche 4 pots?

You feeling ok Mr P??

Offline muckipup

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 13
  • -Receive: 25
  • Posts: 419
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #158 on: June 09, 2010, 11:08:08 pm »
Steve, I think the wear sensor is false security over a good eye and judgement. They/it (as only on passenger front side on MkV/Octavia etc) can be disabled via VCDS or simply splice and join the two wires at the connector as I believe it is a simple circuit to fool the car into thinking all is well. I kept the connectors and soldered the wires from an old OEM set of pads.

Offline tony_danza

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 112
  • Posts: 3013
  • The voice of objective reason, but mine's best.
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #159 on: June 09, 2010, 11:15:29 pm »
What on earth did people do before them.....   :signLOL:

Wheel off and a quick look every 2k, has done me fine.

Sideways yo!

Offline muckipup

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 13
  • -Receive: 25
  • Posts: 419
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #160 on: June 09, 2010, 11:33:15 pm »
Caliper mount bolts included.....

Before you paint them and a quickie tip - best thing to remove brake dust/crap = fairy liquid.

Simply put fairly liquid all over the calipers dry and start rubbing in your hands, come up good as new

Thanks Dave, SWMBO is out tonight and I was about to stick them in the dishwasher and take my chances!  :grin:

Offline QD MBE

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 15
  • -Receive: 102
  • Posts: 2497
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #161 on: June 11, 2010, 07:06:29 am »
What on earth did people do before them.....   :signLOL:

Wheel off and a quick look every 2k, has done me fine.



Mike, Surely you just used your make-up mirror and a strong light source ......................

Offline muckipup

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 13
  • -Receive: 25
  • Posts: 419
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #162 on: June 11, 2010, 02:11:32 pm »
Chaps this is hotting up a little with a few guys looking for the fitting kits, just one important thing that I forgot to mention thats pretty important is that with multipot calipers invariably the pistons are staggered in terms of size.

Its important to remember that the small piston MUST "see" the disc first so imagine the disc rotating within the caliper the small piston must get first bite, so on a golf where the caliper "leads" instead of "lagging" the small piston will be at the top.

On a porsche the calipers "lag" on the front, this means that the calipers need reversing for a golf application.

Very briefly the left side connecting pipe goes to the right side where the bleed nipples reside as standard and vice versa, I do it as a matter of course on refurb calipers but anybody doing a DIY needs to have a little look at this diagram



Any snags simply PM me, the best method for removing the connecting pipes is not a 10mm spanner, much better is a large 8" pair of vice grips and sharp pressure until they give a crack and then use the spanner! Its actually 10 times more straightforward than Ive described!!!

I managed to do this today although cracking a couple of the bolts on the connecting pipes was a beeeatch even with mole grips and heat. Luckily I could get one off on each side before i chewed things up too much with the mole grips and could then bend the pipe away and feed a ring spanner along the line to get to the other one. Bending the pipe slightly was not ideal as it was a bit of a nuisance getting it bent back so that it lined up perfectly for re-attachment to the caliper and being careful not over-do it and kink it.

Oh, and I had a worrying moment when I hadn't lined it up perfectly...it's stating the obvious really but these alloy calipers are light but way softer than the pig iron ones - it is easy to strip a thread for the bleed nipples or lines if you are not carfull! I managed to rescue the situation thankfully.

PS - does anyone know where I can get caliper bridges from? I noticed a nick out of one of mine which may be OK but I'd hate to sprout a leak. The only place I see them is here http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_1409_-cma81-cmo82/Porsche/Boxster/Caliper-Lines/#7826  with Mfg Part# 99635296100 and 200 for the other side but I'll risk it if I can't see them cheaper.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2010, 03:58:34 pm by muckipup »


Offline muckipup

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 13
  • -Receive: 25
  • Posts: 419
Re: NQS BBK - A Not Quite So Big Brake Kit... Another Guinea Pig
« Reply #164 on: June 12, 2010, 11:02:49 am »
Nice one Gav, they look to be in good nick!