All Things Mk5 > Performance Modifications
Hpfp upgrade
Sonic6103:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on January 31, 2013, 05:47:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: Keith@APR on January 31, 2013, 05:26:10 pm ---
Seriously though, I really don't see any sales or marketing spin in my post. Everything I've written is from an engineering perspective of what we have found to work and explains to people how to determine for themselves if the pump they are looking at buying has all of the features and benefits of ours.
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....And I found it very informative and useful technical information - It gives me even more confidence in my APR HPFP, as does your web page about the pump:
http://www.goapr.co.uk/products/fsi_fuel_pump.html
If this was 6 months ago and the Loba pump had become available then I would have been extremely disappointed in Loba's lack of published information to help me make a choice and it would have put me off buying theirs.
This isn't a case of one pump being 'better' than another but being able to make an informed choice to decide which to buy. Which is doubtless what everyone considering to buy an aftermarket HPFP would value.
I take notice of brand reputations but I don't have any brand loyalties (apart from Milltek) - I just want what's best for my beloved car. Don't we all?
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I have to agree with you RR. I just wanted some information that will help me make an informed decision which APR seem more than happy to do so but LOBA won't :s
Like people have said... Other pump manufacturers could go and buy a LOBA pump and then strip it down and find out lots of information so it's never going to stay a secret so I don't know why LOBA can't give these bits of information now.
I'm more than happy to go and buy a LOBA pump if I was given more information than a cheap price.
Keith@APR:
Here is what the piston and barrel look like when they arrive at our facility. Each one is a matched set with the tolerances listed on the packaging. We blurred that out for this pic though as we don't want others to know what tolerances we accomplish. However, we do have plans to release this info in the future.
GNJ_Motorsport:
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on January 31, 2013, 05:44:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: GNJ_Motorsport on January 31, 2013, 05:21:43 pm ---I'm not going to argue with you, I refuse. APR has nothing to do with my business and never will but LOBA does so it is only natural I will back Si up when he is being hammered for not posting info LOBA have decided not to share.
Like I have said previously, as harsh as it sounds, if people don't like LOBA's stance on the pump then don't buy it. The proof for the LOBA pump will come over time when hundreds of people use them without issue.
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Which basically says that everything you post is therefore biased and also sales jargon then :confused:
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:confused: I own a Mk5 GTI
I'm not getting any more into it. I just commented to back up Simon and LOBA as I am a big fan of their work. Simple as that. We could bicker until the cows come home, it won't get any of us anywhere so I won't comment again :happy2:
Hurdy:
This started off as a good thread, but has finally descended into the usual XXX v's YYY.
Full disclosure is not in the interest of any company. A company will always seek to protect its interests and keep its investments safe, whether informational or product specifications or processes. It is how they survive in a competitive market.
You may as well ask them to put a gun to their own heads, their products will hopefully have a USP ( unique selling point ) that ( as RedRobin pointed out) will differentiate their product to give them an edge against the competition.
All good companies will have a policy that will prevent their employees from disclosing anything that a competitor could take advantage of and that is all that these guys on here are doing......protecting their companies interests.
So fellow forumites please don't continue with your attempts at extracting information of a sensitive nature from professionals that are bound by their companies policies as it will end up like this thread......full of keyboard frippery.
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Thank you everyone and in the words of the Dragon's Den
I'm out!. :laugh:
chungster:
Well as a potential HPFP buyer I have to say I'm currently wayyyy more inclined to go with the APR HPFP than anything else.
:happy2:
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