MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Members Rides => Topic started by: james on March 06, 2012, 06:35:07 pm

Title: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on March 06, 2012, 06:35:07 pm
I got the car around the 15/03/11 - Leather, 18" monza, winter pack and a few other bits.

Stage one remap with Angel Tuning
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fcar.jpg&hash=6c19a6099562c92d3f922e15b8f10789834d26af)

The plans where to do the following
Whiteline Anti lift Kit
S3 turbo kit
THS intercooler
Anti-roll bar kit
Highline computer
RCD510 DAB
BBS LM Alloys
LSD
Full Miltek system, with r32 arse

The mission was 340BHP

The car has been in the garage longer than i have owned it  :fighting:

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The first thing i done was to install a genuine golf mk5 bra
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Then install Evoms intake/ heat shield & Open air intakes
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I must say i was very impressed with the sound and performance increase mid-range.!

Then installed my open air vents to help with heat soak
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fopenp1.jpg&hash=8693e91a2377f99e692980f5630c3d160d7f9808)
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Then i went about spending 4hs of my life installing the IC

The day begun by me stripping a few bits off the car and also removing the bumper,
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I then removed all the IC pipes and found myself a nice little boost leak, the stupid C clip had slipped off
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Once all the pipes were removed, i had to remove the front panel!  This part was rather interesting. I had to balance all the rads with one hand while pulling away the front end!  Job done after a few magic tricks.
I supported the rads with some axel stands and went about removing the standard IC from the rad pack
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new v old
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Then i installed the new IC in place
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Then put all the back together!!   Witch was the easy part

You really could tell the difference once you started to do lots of sprints... the recovery time was fantastic

On the same day i installed the Walk anti lift kit (very easy job)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo47%2Fkarlarthur90%2F9dbd6f76.jpg&hash=a39ca58775b4f5d36b88f679db09943ccb6af398)
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Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: s3dubbin on March 06, 2012, 06:43:34 pm
Is that an angle tuning map or angel tuning map? Liking the mods, cant wait to fit my THS cooler later this month. Cheers, Stevie.  :drinking:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on March 06, 2012, 06:58:53 pm
OK

The next thing i done was installed the K04, S3 injectors.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.awesome-gti.co.uk%2Fshopimages%2Fproducts%2Fextras%2Fphoto1K04.jp&hash=7884d40285ddf993611c7f2dde3c87e493639579)

With

Neuspeed K04 discharge pipe
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Neuspeed Hiflow IC pipe
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Forge Throttle body hose
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Forge coolant hoses
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Forge DV hose
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Full milltek system
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.awesome-gti.co.uk%2Fshopimages%2Fproducts%2Fnormal%2Fmilltek_mk5_r32cb.jpg&hash=130dd9fc50af57a973e4a7cb7432c8603db7d31f)
Neuspeed front n back anti roll bars
APR HPFP
THS engine mounts


I cant find any pics of me installing them.... :(  think they are on another pc somewhere

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I then installed the forge catch can, carbon filter covers

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The car then went to AMD for a custom remap  :scared: and it went abit wrong

Here is the RR
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The car had mega over boost and would limp all the time  :scared:   I had so many problems it went back and forth for weeks.... I got a full refund and they left the map on the car  :signLOL:
that is the short story version.

I then dragged the car to nick at r-tech for a custom remap!

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This was nicks information
.............

A bit of a task this Mk5 GTi with S3 turbo/injectors and HPFP.  
The hard part was getting the fuel constant via the air flow correct so the fuel trims are within reason,and the injectors not dumping fuel as the turbo is spooling.  Step1 re-scale injectors on a stock map and set the rail pressure maps to work with the HPFP, this took around days of trial and error testing and logging.  Next step was to tame the boost and make sure I had full control, the first thing I noticed with running the k04 on the k03 mapping was that under load at higher rpms the boost would creep off the scale, I would ask for around 2250mb, the ecu would ask for the correct load and boost but becuase of the k03 n75 mapping being on a lower scale the n75 realted maps would allow too much duty cycle.  So it was another 2 days getting the boost correct and with in maps sensor range and having the n75 act for the k04,  it got the the point that the actual boost was running 200mb below the requested line... at this point I had safe control so time to wind the n75 up in increments to give a little spool up over boost which just clipped the 2580mb map sensor and fall back to the requested boost 2400-2300mb. Next task was timing nice and easy to get a base point as the S3 timing maps and scales fitted in place nice..   now just a matter of keep adding the timing in until the ecu started to pull back on the correction of the car stopped making any more power.

I have really enjoyed doing this job as I was taking a lot on doing it, but knew with enough time I could get it bang on. I had no aim of chasing peak numbers, just a car that pulled and pulled like a bitach to the red line.

The final result was 335bhp 310lbft @270.25gs..... £80 woth of fuel used on the dyno and road.

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I took the old girl to the track

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Ftrackday%2F1.jpg&hash=ba57525be30f1e563bd1ebdb4f12f4679d97ec08)
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Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on March 06, 2012, 07:10:28 pm
I then installed the r32 Brake setup
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I thought they where fantasic but needed somthing more as they would heat up to fast (track) :fighting:


Installed Canbus update and rcd510 DAB  ( What an arse!)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fcan1.jpg&hash=56d199396fe11cad0ffb8b44c23628c744cb0c03)
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Installing this was harder than fitting the turbo!! i smashed my head and hands up for this!

I did not have a DAB connection so used the FM worked fine.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2FRCD510p3.jpg&hash=ec548b70ab4ed0a98263e431f3358af7b5f0f6f0)
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Recoded with vagcom

I then installed installed Highline clocks and created a read me for everyone
How to, Midline to highline retrofit
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,33055.0.html

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Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on March 06, 2012, 07:33:09 pm
I had loads of problems burning plugs due to my remap so nick(r-tech) wanted the car back

I think he installed..
NGK Iridium X
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That corrected the problem.

I then needed to upgrade my brakes again  :party:

AP Formula Big Brake Kit
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These brakes are fantastic!

I then wanted more power so the only way was!!

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Picture of it installed.
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I think nick said the car made 380BHP can’t remember the torque!

She was ready to be collect, then had an electric fault.  It has been at r-tech for 6 months.

It has had,
New, Throttle body, engine loom, sensors, Pedal,   and still goes into full limp mode at wot :(


I have a b16, LSD, Clutch, TT arms left to install.


Sorry about being picture heavy, is a years’ worth.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: Squeeguk on March 06, 2012, 07:55:09 pm
Wow, that's a lot of work gone in there. Must have cost a small fortune. Hope you get it all sorted soon.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: mvb12 on March 06, 2012, 08:16:59 pm
where the hell do you get them bonnet bras from?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: N13SCB on March 06, 2012, 08:18:46 pm
Great project  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: Top Cat on March 07, 2012, 08:07:10 pm
Another mad modder.  :notworthy:  great thread so far.  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: Andy on March 07, 2012, 08:41:29 pm
wow excellent build thresd,sorry to hear its haveing problems think i would leave the water meth of the car
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on March 08, 2012, 11:14:34 am
where the hell do you get them bonnet bras from?

i think it was top cats  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on March 08, 2012, 11:15:29 am
wow excellent build thresd,sorry to hear its haveing problems think i would leave the water meth of the car

no the water meth has to stay :P   i am just injecting water no meth so it is fine.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: Weston on March 08, 2012, 08:42:56 pm
Saw this in the flesh today. Gonna be awesome once it's sorted  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: R-tech-Nick on March 08, 2012, 08:45:21 pm
There will be an END!!!   :grin:  I have had Rob cleaning all the earth straps today..... how many earth points does a mk5 bloody have..lol

374bhp 350lbft was best result with RS4 valve and 130bar of rail pressue on vpower.

The plugs used where Nology silver tip plugs gapped to 0.75 which cured the missfire issues straight way. I have used them on a few TFSI engines now which had been eating coil packs and eliminated the issues.   We had a Revo stage2+ BWA ko4 S3 injectors in yesterday on the dynodaze rolling road with exact same misre and eating coil packs, I sent him down the nology route.  He managed around 354bhp 378lbft.

Nick
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on March 17, 2012, 08:28:27 am
got a call from nick!  he has fixxed my car!! :jumpmove: :jumping:

should be able to pick it up next mid week! woohooo
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: Gti_Mad on March 17, 2012, 11:58:54 am
congrats bud  :happy2:

did nick say wot the fault was???
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: Squeeguk on March 17, 2012, 12:18:43 pm
Glad you got it all sorted in the end. Now at least you can get to enjoy the car how it should be.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: dan930 on March 18, 2012, 03:08:57 am
I've seen this car in the flesh at r-tech...bet it's well quick
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 18, 2012, 10:17:11 am

Great build!!  :congrats: :congrats:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on March 21, 2012, 09:36:48 am
Nick said he changed the coil packs and the sensor on the fuel pump ( Thrust sensor?)    Just shows VW fault codes dont know what they are on about  :fighting:

The car was bloody rapid when i left it!! Now with them extra horses!  should be mental!

Sent Nick a decat yesterday so should make a few more ponys!

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Once i get it back LSD and Suspension will get installed  :party:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 21, 2012, 05:34:29 pm
Well Nick spent most of the day on the old girl!  It has come to an end!  The final numbers are

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There was problems with the car pumping out white smoke,  found it to be a problem with the forge catch can it is far too restrictive!!  so ordering a draft42 catch can!


Will collect it tomorrow!  Fab work by r-tech! :driver: :smiley:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: RedRobin on March 21, 2012, 06:03:00 pm

There was problems with the car pumping out white smoke,  found it to be a problem with the forge catch can it is far too restrictive!!  so ordering a draft42 catch can!


....I'm sure I'm not the only one running a Forge catch tank interested to hear more detail about this restriction, please.  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 21, 2012, 06:07:58 pm
They found when going over x bhp and left to idle the car would pump out white smoke,  was creating loads of back pressure on the crank.   Going from the standard 21mm to an 8mm pipe is shocking.

When the catch can was d/c the car would run smother and no white smoke.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: RedRobin on March 21, 2012, 06:59:54 pm

They found when going over x bhp and left to idle the car would pump out white smoke,  was creating loads of back pressure on the crank.   Going from the standard 21mm to an 8mm pipe is shocking.

When the catch can was d/c the car would run smother and no white smoke.


....No such problems with mine, I'm glad to report. 21mm > 8 mm? Which are those? - Running to the catch tank itself?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: beetie on March 21, 2012, 07:45:44 pm
Was there when they were finishing this off. Mental car :happy2:, and definately in the right hands.
Was so loud :grin:

Nick even took me out in it on Friday at 340bhp and that was quick enough. :congrats:

Think they were putting it back on, after i left, to eek those few more horses out of it for a genuine 400bhp
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: rich83 on March 21, 2012, 07:51:42 pm
Christ.... 400bhp is gonna be mental, best set up a monthly order via camskills  :signLOL:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Sammy on March 21, 2012, 08:14:11 pm
How on earth dd you manage 397 BHP??  :jumping: What have you got on your car now?  :party:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 21, 2012, 11:45:32 pm

They found when going over x bhp and left to idle the car would pump out white smoke,  was creating loads of back pressure on the crank.   Going from the standard 21mm to an 8mm pipe is shocking.

When the catch can was d/c the car would run smother and no white smoke.


....No such problems with mine, I'm glad to report. 21mm > 8 mm? Which are those? - Running to the catch tank itself?

Coming off the plate.  have alook at others.   Maybe it is just my engine?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 21, 2012, 11:47:02 pm
Christ.... 400bhp is gonna be mental, best set up a monthly order via camskills  :signLOL:

lol made me spit me tea  :signLOL:   I can see this happening!  :party:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 21, 2012, 11:48:10 pm
How on earth dd you manage 397 BHP??  :jumping: What have you got on your car now?  :party:

just the stuff in the build  :happy2:

if i had a ed30 engine i would install nos as well
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on March 22, 2012, 06:59:09 am
James is all this on your BWA??

Epic result there, I bet Nick was pleased with that  :drool:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: R-tech-Nick on March 22, 2012, 09:20:19 am
WMI  and lots of advance FTW!!!!!! 
1.47bar from 3100rpm to 7100rpm... with zero timing pull and lambda locked to .84

I wanted to aim for the Revo/ APR stage-3 100ron 400bhp+ numbers but that would mean running out of range of the stock GTI map sensor.


As for the catch can system I seems is cannot cope with the crank pressures from the blow by from higher power output, unplugged it and vented the crank breater now its all clear.


I cannot wait until Jmaes drives this today, its bang on 100bhp up on the last tuners stage 2+ map which he had last year..


Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Sammy on March 22, 2012, 10:41:48 am
Il be doing the k04 conversion soon, looking forward to the custom stage 3 map at R tech  :party:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 23, 2012, 11:16:54 am
Yea is a BWA engine,  i am just interested to see what their limits are  :driver:    If it does go bang i will just install a cdl engine with stronger rods  :happy2:

We reinstalled the rs4 valve back in the car and it felt like it had lost some power so we put it on the RR, it made around 370bhp 330lb-ft so a few bhp had gone.

Nick played with the map increased the rail pressure and n75 load.   The car had changed its tune on the RR

This was the final outcome,  nick was not happy leaving it like this due to the rods.   I asked him to leave it and we will see how she gets on.

The drive is EPIC! lol

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2FRR3.jpg&hash=efb6e9448a8605b20de1a42bc76ed6e423bb4fab)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 23, 2012, 01:01:59 pm
Are those figures (360) at the wheels I take it James? Good to see my old mods are being put to good use..  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 23, 2012, 04:30:10 pm
yea 360 at the wheels  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: DanGB on March 23, 2012, 04:43:56 pm
Nice work Nick!
What is your water meth setup in there and how is it configured? ie, start and max times, and nozzle size.

What  mix are you using for the water/meth.

FYI I bent a rod at around 400 on my BWA, but I thnik the map was causing the boost to come on quite early.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 23, 2012, 04:45:34 pm
James that torque of yours translates into 447NM (and mine's up to 517NM = 382 LB-FT  :wink: )
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 23, 2012, 05:03:08 pm
yea i am running a bwa engine, playing with fire as it is lol.    You have upgraded yours :P!  i would push it alot harder if i had your engine :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 23, 2012, 05:05:10 pm
368ft-lb is 498.9nm ??
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 23, 2012, 05:25:48 pm
368ft-lb is 498.9nm ??

390 on mine was 525nm if I remember right so about right
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: R-tech-Nick on March 23, 2012, 06:13:14 pm
I played with getting it linear as I could, if peak boost was at 3000-3200lbft I am sure some silly rod bending torque numbers would crop up and the peak cylinder pressures would be sky high with the BWA CR.  If it was a ko3 I would tune with a huge dolop of power in from 2900rpm 3600rpm.

 I just cannot get my head around how well the k04 flows, its shocked but gave me a huge buzzz as I can see me having fun over the next 10-15 years tuning these monsters..  I will find out the BWA ko4 limits as soon as I buy my own and max it out.   I thought Hurdys ED30 was a monster on my dyno at 360bhp.. :party:

Nick


Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: yin on March 23, 2012, 06:53:57 pm
Nick have you had a go at mapping a hybrid K04 yet .Great results  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: R-tech-Nick on March 23, 2012, 07:05:21 pm
Nick have you had a go at mapping a hybrid K04 yet .Great results  :happy2:


Not yet, but what I am finding with the MED9 ecu open loop boost control I am sure I could get some nice results...  I cannot wait to play with one.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 23, 2012, 07:16:51 pm
368ft-lb is 498.9nm ??

sorry James,  i took the torque figure from the 370hk above the graph  :sad1:
my mistake
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 25, 2012, 07:06:59 pm
No worries mate  :happy2:
I went and collected 100liters of methanol yesterday,  so i thought i would try 100% meth for the drive home!   It was epic, but not sure how long the engine will last me doing this  :stupid:

The snow performance kit it setup to run 100% when over 11 psi.
i was running 60m/40w
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: ktlstar on March 25, 2012, 07:20:35 pm
I want WMI in my life!  Did R-rtech installed this for you?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 25, 2012, 09:21:41 pm
I want WMI in my life!  Did R-rtech installed this for you?

Yea they did, but it was for development of there maps really.


Ask they might install another one  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: ktlstar on March 26, 2012, 08:06:52 am
Cheers James,

 :evilgrin:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 26, 2012, 09:01:40 pm
Cheers James,

 :evilgrin:

no worries mate.  :drinking:


i have destroyed my clutch now  :innocent:  so im going to order another one tomorrow with an LSD,  as i can’t wait any longer for the group buy :fighting:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: R-tech-Nick on March 26, 2012, 09:04:32 pm
Cheers James,

 :evilgrin:

no worries mate.  :drinking:


i have destroyed my clutch now  :innocent:  so im going to order another one tomorrow with an LSD,  as i can’t wait any longer for the group buy :fighting:

It was slipping on the dyno against the eddy brake on the last few logging sessions... no you just gone and killed it..

Cannot wait until we get this down pod, the linear power should make for a good time.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 26, 2012, 09:08:16 pm
Cheers James,

 :evilgrin:

no worries mate.  :drinking:


i have destroyed my clutch now  :innocent:  so im going to order another one tomorrow with an LSD,  as i can’t wait any longer for the group buy :fighting:

It was slipping on the dyno against the eddy brake on the last few logging sessions... no you just gone and killed it..

Cannot wait until we get this down pod, the linear power should make for a good time.


Yea looking forward to it dude!  see what we can get out of the old girl lol.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: ktlstar on March 26, 2012, 11:11:18 pm
James are u living in Kent ? I can get 20% quicker than the group buy if so ( Quaife )
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on March 26, 2012, 11:14:21 pm
yea i am in margate mate
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on April 02, 2012, 05:32:41 pm
Well my new clutch and light fly wheel come today   :drinking:  ( Just need to wait for the LSD  :fighting:)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fclutch%2F1.jpg&hash=4a44c08b34a4daf2ff1225b81c44428a6ceb1bd3)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fclutch%2F2.jpg&hash=72385e35d29e530366b65a6f27a9846b3cac3320)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fclutch%2F3.jpg&hash=b916930055d5e3b45c29817e7252f07a1edf21f3)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fclutch%2F4.jpg&hash=d0daa4d8ab3fbcffe9195267ef4eb003a3a3e938)

I also went and collected some cheap KW V3

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fshocks%2F1.jpg&hash=94e54120b1383b36435a79b6a20fe5464a87da67)

Going to install  S3 rear brakes and Audi TT wishbones tomorrow as long as it don’t bloody rain!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on April 03, 2012, 12:09:43 pm
where did you get the clutch and flywheel from James?

I'm tempted to go to R-Tech to get mine bought & fitted  :smiley:

Graeme
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on April 03, 2012, 09:51:56 pm
where did you get the clutch and flywheel from James?

I'm tempted to go to R-Tech to get mine bought & fitted  :smiley:

Graeme

direct from Helix mate :happy2:  used mates trade account.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on April 04, 2012, 06:59:17 pm
Today I nearly blew myself up!!   I kept smelling petrol in the car and thought it was due to my catch can venting to air at the moment.  (Forge are sending me a replacement!)

Further investigation I found my rs4 valve is dripping fuel! Not looking forward to removing it! Looks like it is crossed threaded: fighting:

I wondered why my car was an arse to start in the morning, due to no rail pressure! :sick:


Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Weston on April 04, 2012, 07:05:14 pm
One day it'll all be working properly  :grin:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 04, 2012, 07:40:10 pm

My RS4 valve that had been on 12 months was potentially buggered so for the cost I might add it to the servicing along with oil & cam follower
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on April 04, 2012, 09:58:52 pm
yea going to order another one and replace and get  :mad:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + all mods fitted!
Post by: james on April 24, 2012, 11:07:31 am
well got my rs4 replaced, no more leaks!!

I dropped my car off at the garage to have all my bits installed LSD, Helix clutch & fly wheel, TT wish bones, KW3 V3, S3 rear brakes.

Helix clutch
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fclutch.jpg&hash=6e43f5f7dacfd8e9283ee5e62fba4f04e2619ac7)

quaife lsd installed.  ready to go back in the car
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fdiff1.jpg&hash=d43e98848223096f57d6a2028992e4b6032badde)

KW v3 installed  (rub like hell  :confused: )
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fshocks.jpg&hash=a2f226553719c910bda45e9f1576604e1c540afc)

I did around 500 odd miles to let the clutch settle in,  it is now epic but a very heavy clutch.   I also love the diff whine! :driver:

Popped up and sore nick(r-tech) to tweak my map, seems like we have problems with my can bus, keeps locking us out!  But we made some changes.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Frr1.jpg&hash=fae6aeedee01a7eaecc0d7b19a9821c516f7cb43)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Frr2.jpg&hash=e5561b936a275b22d907964eb458c90b658efcc7)

It still needs some fine tuning so will be popping up in the next couple of weeks!

Also got some new wheels from big_pete

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fwheels1.jpg&hash=25a4027d5cde7526c6d714b3839917d210fdde5c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fwheels2.jpg&hash=bc02536e1713f13cd29aa0d55f44485bc1e26bcc)


All in all it needs the suspension fine-tuned or I am going to have no arches left, I have pushed the arch on top of the screw but still rubs. Any ideas?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Sammy on April 24, 2012, 11:14:20 am
What is the offset and width of the new wheels you have and also what tyre sizes? That could be the problem.

Quote
It still needs some fine tuning so will be popping up in the next couple of weeks!

Is this the map you are talking about or other places?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on April 24, 2012, 11:16:53 am
yea map.

They are BBS VZ from bigpete

rubbed just as bad with the standard wheels.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + all mods fitted!
Post by: vRSAlex on April 24, 2012, 11:29:52 am
well got my rs4 replaced, no more leaks!!

I dropped my car off at the garage to have all my bits installed LSD, Helix clutch & fly wheel, TT wish bones, KW3 V3, S3 rear brakes.

Helix clutch
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fclutch.jpg&hash=6e43f5f7dacfd8e9283ee5e62fba4f04e2619ac7)

All in all it needs the suspension fine-tuned or I am going to have no arches left, I have pushed the arch on top of the screw but still rubs. Any ideas?


Are you missing a stud on your downpipe?

Are you running a Whiteline WALK kit?  Would be worth getting the arches rolled.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on April 24, 2012, 11:34:15 am
yea looks like it has snapped off!

yea i have a walk kit, i was hoping i did not need to get the arches rolled, is that the only option?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: fab5freddy on April 24, 2012, 11:40:22 am
Or the kerscher fenders

Take a look @ REX build thread

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,24398.285.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,24398.285.html)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: danishmkvgti on April 24, 2012, 11:44:36 am
Or my Seibon fenders as i am changing mine, could you be interested?
I'm a bit puzzled by your rubbing problems, what size tyres are you running?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: fab5freddy on April 24, 2012, 11:47:44 am
Remember the TT arms will add another 7-10mm track
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: vRSAlex on April 24, 2012, 12:34:16 pm
Remember the TT arms will add another 7-10mm track

Plus fitting the arms with the whiteline WALK kit pushes the wheels around 15mm further forward.  I bet the rubbing is on the front of the arch where the bumper joins the wing.  Only way round it is to go back to the original consoles with the SuperPro anti lift bushes (in stock!!).
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: danishmkvgti on April 24, 2012, 12:35:17 pm
7mm for the TT arms at max negative camber and 3mm from Cupra/S3 alloy hubs  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: james on April 24, 2012, 12:37:32 pm
is it to low?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fcar1.jpg&hash=171681534d97f138a021ca6fd4dc5c5a8c4bb9a4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fcar2.jpg&hash=8a09c83a8f84d3aef3c349bef766c666d36be794)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: luckyGti on April 24, 2012, 12:45:31 pm
Looks far lower than mine which are on clubsports and i've just got over my rubbing issue by having it raised slightly.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: RedRobin on April 24, 2012, 02:50:32 pm
is it to low?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fcar1.jpg&hash=171681534d97f138a021ca6fd4dc5c5a8c4bb9a4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fcar2.jpg&hash=8a09c83a8f84d3aef3c349bef766c666d36be794)


....I don't think so. Or at least, I just about get away with mine being as low as it is. I have to be extra careful over speed bumps and indoor car parks with ramps are a no-no, but not helped by the Mk5 GTI's long frontal overhang coupled with my OSIR front splitter.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_332.jpg&hash=863255dc67fe719bfc9a158cc5f2025dfb7474e1)

I only rub on the front arch liners and only under very extreme loading into 90 degree corners and tight roundabouts. My bodyshop is sorting that out literally right now while they have my car for front wing rust repair under warranty.

I'm on KW V3's as well.

Also, I have the same AP front brakes plus S3 rear brakes. The S3 rears make a big difference to result in well planted and very even hard braking.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 24, 2012, 02:59:59 pm
same height as mine i think
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 24, 2012, 05:29:26 pm

I ran KW V3s wound down with no issues at all for a very long time.  It wasnt until I fitted the TT lower arms ive had an ongoing nightmare with tyre/arch battles!

The lower arms give extra track width
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Sammy on April 24, 2012, 06:57:26 pm
yea map.

They are BBS VZ from bigpete

rubbed just as bad with the standard wheels.

Whats wrong with the map mate?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: R-tech-Nick on April 24, 2012, 10:19:13 pm
yea map.

They are BBS VZ from bigpete

rubbed just as bad with the standard wheels.

Whats wrong with the map mate?

It in development stages still, just lots of logging and and refining the map, fuel and timing is spot on as thats easy to do in mapping with a few maps.

 The way we have mapped the software to make the power is to rewrite the N75 boost control maps and run the WOT boost control open loop to allow us to have full boost control and keep with in the 2.5bar map sensor range,  its a case of plotting boost and n75 logs and graph them to produce linear lines which I can export into the map.   
 I can see this method of open loop tuning the TFSI for big power catching on soom... :wink:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: Sammy on April 24, 2012, 11:25:51 pm
yea map.

They are BBS VZ from bigpete

rubbed just as bad with the standard wheels.

Whats wrong with the map mate?

It in development stages still, just lots of logging and and refining the map, fuel and timing is spot on as thats easy to do in mapping with a few maps.

 The way we have mapped the software to make the power is to rewrite the N75 boost control maps and run the WOT boost control open loop to allow us to have full boost control and keep with in the 2.5bar map sensor range,  its a case of plotting boost and n75 logs and graph them to produce linear lines which I can export into the map.   
 I can see this method of open loop tuning the TFSI for big power catching on soom... :wink:

Would this be required to do on my gti also when I do the k04 conversion because i plan to get it mapped with R tech?
I know as you said it will take a week to set it up but just want to know would it be complete after that?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 @ 397bhp :D
Post by: james on April 25, 2012, 11:20:53 am
yea map.

They are BBS VZ from bigpete

rubbed just as bad with the standard wheels.

Whats wrong with the map mate?

It in development stages still, just lots of logging and and refining the map, fuel and timing is spot on as thats easy to do in mapping with a few maps.

 The way we have mapped the software to make the power is to rewrite the N75 boost control maps and run the WOT boost control open loop to allow us to have full boost control and keep with in the 2.5bar map sensor range,  its a case of plotting boost and n75 logs and graph them to produce linear lines which I can export into the map.   
 I can see this method of open loop tuning the TFSI for big power catching on soom... :wink:

Would this be required to do on my gti also when I do the k04 conversion because i plan to get it mapped with R tech?
I know as you said it will take a week to set it up but just want to know would it be complete after that?


Na i am just being a guinea pig, yours will be running spot on when you leave  :driver:

Think my car has done more miles on the RR and track than it has on normal roads lol.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: rich83 on April 25, 2012, 12:10:19 pm
I bet you have fun trying to put that 400bhp down on the road.  :driver: :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: james on April 25, 2012, 12:14:24 pm
not to bad really as the diff does all the hard work  :happy2:  +  linear map makes it very easy to drive :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: Sammy on April 25, 2012, 12:23:44 pm
I take it you done the DSG map hows that?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: james on April 25, 2012, 12:25:51 pm
i am manual mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 02, 2012, 09:08:38 pm
James you should bring this animal down to the JKM Dyno Day Robin has arranged for October.  :happy2:

Need a few more R-Tech mapped cars at these days  :grin:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: james on May 04, 2012, 06:50:05 pm
James you should bring this animal down to the JKM Dyno Day Robin has arranged for October.  :happy2:

Need a few more R-Tech mapped cars at these days  :grin:

yea i will be there dude!!


Also got my XB and UB order coming soon! looking forward to this mod!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: RedRobin on May 04, 2012, 07:14:41 pm
^^^^
James, I'll add you to the list  :happy2: At this early stage it's only provisional but if it fills up (30 max) as quickly as the last one then at least you'll have a place. But I will expect you (and anyone else) to tell me as soon as they know they can't make it.  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: Tamiyoman on May 04, 2012, 07:20:11 pm
^^^^
James, I'll add you to the list  :happy2: At this early stage it's only provisional but if it fills up (30 max) as quickly as the last one then at least you'll have a place. But I will expect you (and anyone else) to tell me as soon as they know they can't make it.  :happy2:

Hope u put me down for a spot  :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04
Post by: james on May 28, 2012, 11:28:17 pm
Here is my RR from JKM,  It was a very hot day, so i am happy with this

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Frrnew1.jpg&hash=b1c4ecc142fa7ef84ed1ab3f37cae6b8d23a6215)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Frrnew2.jpg&hash=cd9d620a5cc4550e4a8b20ceb82e2c4fd566a3ca)

 :drinking:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: Hedge on May 28, 2012, 11:29:22 pm
I must admit I was impressed to see that.  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 28, 2012, 11:35:22 pm

Is it R tech mapped or Revo?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: james on May 28, 2012, 11:38:47 pm

Is it R tech mapped or Revo?

r tech mate
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 28, 2012, 11:42:45 pm

Good figures for jkms dyno  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: james on May 29, 2012, 08:49:30 am

Good figures for jkms dyno  :happy2:

lol yea :drinking: was a few shocked faces.  BWA engine is holding up well  :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2012, 09:25:29 am

Was that with WMI. Are the logs safe? What Happens if you run out of meth at full tilt with that setup?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 !mods installed!
Post by: james on May 29, 2012, 09:35:41 am
yea with WMI  if it was cooler I would of found another 10-15bhp i recon.

yea 100% safe, you can see the fuelling it spot on,  there is no engine pull.   I have run out of meth before blasting around, the engine notices and pulls itself back.


i just carry 5 litters spare in the boot, so never run out.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 29, 2012, 08:06:19 pm
That AFR graph shows how safe it is  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: scopes on May 29, 2012, 11:23:33 pm
This is one totally amazing car, everything is very neatly done...
Good job James...

Whats next!

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: jon-tfsi on May 30, 2012, 07:23:21 am
Amazing power for Jkm's rollers  :congrats: :congrats:
Credit to R-Tech for the mapping
I wonder what it could make with a hybrid and an extra 3 psi boost!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: bacillus on May 30, 2012, 07:28:49 am
I wonder what it could make with a hybrid and an extra 3 psi boost!

That's mix is almost guaranteed to bend his standard oem rods...   :scared:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: jon-tfsi on May 30, 2012, 08:01:17 am
LOL im surprised they are still in one piece now!

Steve P's Mk5 made 15 bhp less than James' on the same rollers and I think his bent a rod
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: R-tech-Nick on May 30, 2012, 08:48:06 am
To keep rods straight its about keeping the peak cylinder pressures down and lower engine speeds,  On the map version James has on at the moment we have capped the load where we guess peak cylinder pressure will happen, then shifted the torque band higher in the rpm range where the engine has greater crank speeds. 

I cannot wait to do a BT TFSI... :wink:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: james on May 30, 2012, 10:00:12 am
yea i am really shocked how well this engine is holding up i was just intrested to see what it could do. if it went bang i was going to put in a S3 engine with a BT  :driver:

I change the oil every 4/5k seems to like its abuse lol.  big credit to nick!  :drinking:

I think the engine will come out soon, as i want nos :driver:

These also come today  :drool:  just need to get my blowing exhaust fixxed first.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fxb.jpg&hash=b85ae9fc2d1f56e82081263cf1ec77ee76afec88)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fub.jpg&hash=1e590e9a532688b631f08c74c1943500101efb22)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: james on May 30, 2012, 12:56:10 pm
also here is a RR 2 weeks befor when it was a little cooler

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Frr805.jpg&hash=27a501ad10291aa30a3c7fa603f1084d57a63b82)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: scopes on May 30, 2012, 01:43:46 pm
That is madnes!

nearly 400 bhp!

a few more tweeks, it will be hittin the 4oo mark!


OH YAEH.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: kiddfrost on May 30, 2012, 09:15:35 pm
Nice car with some nice toys!
Was well impressed with the power, especially on JKM's dyno and with the heat on the day.  :congrats:
Hat of to R-tech for the mapping, would only have considered sticking with Revo till seeing your car.  Was so impressed am currently deciding which wmi kit to get.
My eddy feels reasonably quick but yours must be well rapid.  :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on May 30, 2012, 10:41:39 pm
Was the WMI a worthwhile mod?

I've been trying to order a snow kit for a few weeks but American dealers are a pita
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: RedRobin on May 31, 2012, 08:15:45 am

Was the WMI a worthwhile mod?

I've been trying to order a snow kit for a few weeks but American dealers are a pita


....Contact Hurdy - He knows about WMI in the UK  :happy2:

And James, also contact Hurdy if you are serious abot NOS  :scared: but I would think very carefully about it!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 31, 2012, 09:53:39 am

John indeed pushed the envelope on the Tfsi with NOS

Had a kit from wizards of nos in Doncaster fitted by Statller in Shefield
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: Top Cat on May 31, 2012, 11:16:24 am
And his NOS was not much of an improvement, i kicked his ass up the strip at inters with my stage 2 KO 3.  :jumpmove: but to be fair he knew he was up against the better car and driver and just fell to pieces.  :grin:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: RedRobin on May 31, 2012, 12:27:13 pm
^^^^
:signLOL:

Glad to see you on form as ever!  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: DanGB on June 01, 2012, 10:09:47 am
Was the WMI a worthwhile mod?

I've been trying to order a snow kit for a few weeks but American dealers are a pita

Ive just ordered some replacement parts from www.snowperformance.eu

They are a good dealer.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 + WMI
Post by: james on June 09, 2012, 02:57:56 pm
well the engine gave up,  it had done 10k and is now is firing on 3 cylinders and smoking.

Was going up a hill in 3rd got to 5.5k and engine light come on with lots of smoke and 1.5k limp.

discounted the battery to i could drive home  and it was not fun. (went along the sea front people enjoying there chips, then I come along and stinking them out!)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fenginep1.jpg&hash=7663bfa6639b91ab9031eb78ba785ffd9761427a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fenginep2.jpg&hash=27662761c05c4487c44917f8d17c5164e9c6cac6)

I am not sure if i want to get my engine rebuilt or just buy a s3 engine?  what do you think?


looks like i am back driving the TT doh!!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 09, 2012, 03:03:07 pm
Damn me was your engine a BWA? How did this happen?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 09, 2012, 03:09:18 pm
yea bwa,   just pure abuse.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 09, 2012, 03:11:16 pm
Has it got anything to do with your internals not coping with it? Also the water meth must of been a culprit too
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 09, 2012, 03:12:12 pm
I think I read on a 1 of your posts somewhere you bought a CDL code engine?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: ktlstar on June 09, 2012, 03:13:42 pm
nevermind, time to forge it.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Saintsteve on June 09, 2012, 03:18:10 pm
yea bwa,   just pure abuse.

I'd buy an S3 lump, always a risk running such high power from your engine. After seeing it run at JKM recently, I was astonished with the power it was producing.

Sorry to see this same thing happen to someone else running such high power. :sad1:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 09, 2012, 03:19:56 pm
yea bwa,   just pure abuse.

I'd buy an S3 lump, always a risk running such high power from your engine. After seeing it run at JKM recently, I was astonished with the power it was producing.

Sorry to see this same thing happen to someone else running such high power. :sad1:

I just got hold of a R engine seemed like a good idea then when looking at reliability
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 09, 2012, 03:39:22 pm
yea i did have a cdl engine but i sold it.

I knew i was pushing the limits of the engine but it last well :drinking:    I will take the engine out monday see what failed.

I might just put a s3 engine in for now and rebuild my old bwa for a BT


i would love a TTRS engine................. :fighting2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Nodz on June 09, 2012, 03:42:05 pm
Sorry to read this mate, hope you get it sorted soon
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 09, 2012, 03:43:47 pm
Sorry to read this mate, hope you get it sorted soon

yea just means wmi + nos lol

or

got TTRS engine, but they are hard to find :confused:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 09, 2012, 03:46:06 pm
yea i did have a cdl engine but i sold it.

I knew i was pushing the limits of the engine but it last well :drinking:    I will take the engine out monday see what failed.

I might just put a s3 engine in for now and rebuild my old bwa for a BT


i would love a TTRS engine................. :fighting2:

Luckily I have decided not to keep my AXX and rebuild it to go and do a k04 map on that  :fighting:
Hopefully the new R engine will be more then enough
TTRS is on another level!  :wink:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 09, 2012, 03:47:13 pm
you would of been fine,  i just pushed my car to far.    Nick would of never mapped your car like mine.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Hedge on June 09, 2012, 03:47:42 pm
That's a shame James but after seeing it at JKM I did think it would only be a matter of time.

Not sure around costs but S3 lump with rods would be a good start.  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 09, 2012, 03:53:50 pm
That's a shame James but after seeing it at JKM I did think it would only be a matter of time.

Not sure around costs but S3 lump with rods would be a good start.  :happy2:

yea i knew that also, but it had a happy 10k lol.

i might just put a standard s3 engine in for now(that should handle the power fine?), rebuild my bwa so i can get it back on the road ASAP.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: R-tech-Nick on June 09, 2012, 07:26:19 pm
If it blows it blows...so lets try it and see whay the BWA can take..    <<  Words from james.

Its lasted over 8000 miles..

Cannot wait to see what failed.

Nixk
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 09, 2012, 07:32:17 pm
If it blows it blows...so lets try it and see whay the BWA can take..    <<  Words from james.

Its lasted over 8000 miles..

Cannot wait to see what failed.

Nixk

i dont blame you dude  :drinking:  i told you to tune it to its max!

just means bigger things for me lol. :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: E30Dom on June 09, 2012, 09:28:22 pm
Please go 2.5t :notworthy:

Whatever you do it's gonna be crazy...  :signLOL:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 09, 2012, 09:36:18 pm
Please go 2.5t :notworthy:

Whatever you do it's gonna be crazy...  :signLOL:

 :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 10, 2012, 12:32:31 am
If it blows it blows...so lets try it and see whay the BWA can take..    <<  Words from james.

Its lasted over 8000 miles..

Cannot wait to see what failed.

Nixk

James, sorry to hear its given up  :sick:

However well done for proving the durability of the BWA well into the 300's  :notworthy:

Would be interested to see what failed - especially if it's not the rods  :scared: - that would worry the ED30 crowd. . .
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on June 10, 2012, 12:34:34 am
If it blows it blows...so lets try it and see whay the BWA can take..    <<  Words from james.

Its lasted over 8000 miles..

Cannot wait to see what failed.

Nixk

i dont blame you dude  :drinking:  i told you to tune it to its max!

just means bigger things for me lol. :driver:


What power levels were you at?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Poverty on June 10, 2012, 07:39:23 am
There's a 600hp 2.0tfsi engine for sell, gtx30 based turbo comes with clutch kit and all the other bits needed to run reliably. Massive spec for a good price!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 10, 2012, 01:56:52 pm
There's a 600hp 2.0tfsi engine for sell, gtx30 based turbo comes with clutch kit and all the other bits needed to run reliably. Massive spec for a good price!

Where n how much? I might be interested if the price is right



I was running around 380 / 380ftlb

I have a funny feeling the rods are ok n it is a piston ring
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Poverty on June 10, 2012, 02:16:00 pm
Hey guys

Huge list so serious buyers only please everything you need for your 2.0T FSI for a 600hp+ build except Intercooler DV and in tank pump

BSH/AFI WORK OF ART EQUAL LENGHT TUBULAR MANIFOLD

GARETT GT3076R TURBO REWORKED TO A HTA GT-X3079R WITH HTA BILLET 79MM WHEEL - TIAL V-BAND 30R EXHAUST HOUSING / 0.82 AR 4&quot; INLET
TIAL MVS V-BAND 38MM EXTERNAL WASTEGATE - SILVER
TURBO KIT FITTING COSTS

Engine Internals
CYLINDER HEAD SKIM - 30 MICRONS REMOVED
2.0T FSI S3 BLOCK - RE-BORE TO 83.0MM
SUPERTECH 2.0T FSI EXHAUST / INLET VALVE KIT
INTEGRATED ENGINEERING NON TAPERED 2.0T FSI RODS + ARP 2000 ROD BOLTS
JE 83.0MM BORE / 8.5:1 COMPRESSION FORGED PISTONS
CALICO COATED ROD BEARINGS
ENGINE BUILD PARTS - GASKETS / SEALS / HEAD BOLTS / CAM BELT / WATER PUMP
ENGINE BUILD COSTS
Engine Management
REVO STAGE 4 SOFTWARE
N2MB WOT BOX - WOT SHIFT / 2-STEP REV LIMITER
TURBOSMART EBOOST2 ELECTRONIC BOOST CONTROLLER WITH BUILT IN BOOST GAUGE

Fuelling & Ignition
OEM AUDI RS4 FSI INJECTORS
OEM AUDI RS4 FSI INJECTORS - FLOW TESTED & CLEANED BY ADS
OEM AUDI RS4 FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
OEM AUDI RS4 COIL PACKS X4
AUTOTECH REVISION 2 HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP
HPFP CAM FOLLOWER
Dv / Pcv
CUSTOM ALUMINIUM DV RECIRCULATION PIPE
AEM WATER METHANOL INJECTION KIT

FORGE MOTORSPORT PCV FIX / CATCH CAN SYSTEM

Intake
CUSTOM 4&quot; INDUCTION TECHNOLOGY GROUP ENCLOSED INTAKE MADE ON THE CAR FOR THE CAR WITH 5&quot; COLD AIR FEED

Exhaust
BSH/AFI PURGE WELDED V-BAND TUBULAR MANIFOLD
CUSTOM S3 FITMENT BSH 76MM V-BAND DOWNPIPE CONNECTION- INC TIAL V-BAND FLANGE AND CLAMP
CUSTOM S3 FITMENT BSH 38MM V-BAND WASTEGATE DUMP PIPE

Heat Management
ZIRCOFLEX - TRANSFER BOX / OIL & WATER LINES / SHIFT CABLES / MISC
ZIRCOFLEX - INTAKE PIPE & DV RECIRCULATION PIPE
HEATSHIELDPORODUCTS EXHAUST WRAP - DUMP TUBE

Gearbox
HELIX STAGE 5 CLUTCH KIT
HELIX SOLID STAGE 5 SINGLE MASS FLYWHEEL KIT

Engine Mounts
VW RACING FAST ROAD SPEC ENGINE MOUNT
VW RACING FAST ROAD SPEC GEARBOX MOUNT
VF ENGINEERING PENDULUM MOUNT
VWR RACING SOLID LOWER ENGINE MOUNT

the build originally cost Jonny in excess of 15k and me a lot more again, asking price is 6k for an absolute monster of a package that's a fraction of the price also bearing in mind the WOA manifold is no longer in production

and of course this setup will fit S3, cupra, golf, Octavia etc.. ready to drop straight in
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: luckyGti on June 10, 2012, 03:35:00 pm
.....and here is a direct link http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=11181
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 10, 2012, 03:53:39 pm
that is rather tempting!! hmmm where is it based?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: E30Dom on June 10, 2012, 04:05:58 pm
I believe the setup is on VAGOC.co.uk...

Might be a different one though...
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Dp_Ed30 on June 10, 2012, 04:14:28 pm
yeh its from vagoc, between jonny and dan they spent over £20k on that engine. didnt see anything amazing from it in terms of track times or videos but i know jonny always takes his cars to trusted places and pays hansomly for the skilled staff to do his work.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Poverty on June 10, 2012, 04:18:16 pm
that is rather tempting!! hmmm where is it based?

north of the country.

If I had a 2.0TFSI id buy it! 6k for all that gear is bargain!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: tommygti on June 25, 2012, 12:34:35 am
Amazing power!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: tommygti on June 25, 2012, 12:38:02 am
Have you got any old videos/youtube clips of this car in motion? Really want to see the power
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: scopes on June 25, 2012, 01:16:33 pm
x2 ^^^^^  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 26, 2012, 06:31:01 pm
just a note to all,   my rods where fine,  one of my piston rings went  :signLOL:   that bwa was a fighter!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: scopes on June 26, 2012, 07:05:56 pm
That just goes to show how strong the BWA engines can be... well done James...  :happy2:

Whats on the agenda then?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 26, 2012, 08:00:40 pm
just a note to all,   my rods where fine,  one of my piston rings went  :signLOL:   that bwa was a fighter!

And the piston ring is the same as  on a ED30/ S3 engine??  :notworthy: (awaits expert to correct) . . .
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2012, 08:02:41 pm
just a note to all,   my rods where fine,  one of my piston rings went  :signLOL:   that bwa was a fighter!

And the piston ring is the same as  on a ED30/ S3 engine??  :notworthy: (awaits expert to correct) . . .

No not the same edition 30/S3 have stronger ones
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 26, 2012, 08:04:51 pm
just a note to all,   my rods where fine,  one of my piston rings went  :signLOL:   that bwa was a fighter!

And the piston ring is the same as  on a ED30/ S3 engine??  :notworthy: (awaits expert to correct) . . .

No not the same edition 30/S3 have stronger ones

Knew it wouldn't be long.  :grin:

Really impressed it's not the rods that failed seeing as everyone banging on about them being a "weak spot"
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GarethB on June 26, 2012, 08:33:53 pm
just a note to all,   my rods where fine,  one of my piston rings went  :signLOL:   that bwa was a fighter!

And the piston ring is the same as  on a ED30/ S3 engine??  :notworthy: (awaits expert to correct) . . .

No not the same edition 30/S3 have stronger ones

Knew it wouldn't be long.  :grin:

Really impressed it's not the rods that failed seeing as everyone banging on about them being a "weak spot"

Please don't tell me that you referred to Sammy as an 'expert'  :wink:  :signLOL:

jk  :innocent:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2012, 08:37:19 pm
just a note to all,   my rods where fine,  one of my piston rings went  :signLOL:   that bwa was a fighter!

And the piston ring is the same as  on a ED30/ S3 engine??  :notworthy: (awaits expert to correct) . . .

No not the same edition 30/S3 have stronger ones

Knew it wouldn't be long.  :grin:

Really impressed it's not the rods that failed seeing as everyone banging on about them being a "weak spot"

Please don't tell me that you referred to Sammy as an 'expert'  :wink:  :signLOL:

jk  :innocent:

Ohh so you call yourself a expert well you are Not LOL!  :wink: :signLOL:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GarethB on June 26, 2012, 08:58:04 pm
I'm only messing dude and hope that your car is sorted soon  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2012, 09:11:28 pm
I'm only messing dude and hope that your car is sorted soon  :happy2:

No problem mate car has been sorted with a golf R engine and in for a remap atm  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 26, 2012, 09:12:08 pm
just a note to all,   my rods where fine,  one of my piston rings went  :signLOL:   that bwa was a fighter!

And the piston ring is the same as  on a ED30/ S3 engine??  :notworthy: (awaits expert to correct) . . .

No not the same edition 30/S3 have stronger ones

Knew it wouldn't be long.  :grin:

Really impressed it's not the rods that failed seeing as everyone banging on about them being a "weak spot"

Please don't tell me that you referred to Sammy as an 'expert'  :wink:  :signLOL:

jk  :innocent:

 :grin: well done for picking up on that  :grin:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 26, 2012, 09:13:15 pm
What's the plans now James?

Rebuild with stronger internals (piston rings at least  :grin:)

Or 2.5 TFSI  :party:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 26, 2012, 09:16:25 pm
i thought the piston rings where all the same?

I am going to install the cdl engine with the k04 + wmi,  and max it out to see what i can get.   Mine was not running maxxed out :rolleye:

Then big turbo, I am just interested to see what u can get with a standard k04.  

The engines are so easy to take out so i am willing to test a few things!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 26, 2012, 09:17:17 pm
i cant find a 2.5 anywhere  :fighting:  and nick said he has not tunned one yet so....  :sad1:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GarethB on June 26, 2012, 09:17:29 pm
Sounds like a plan  :happy2:

Looking forward to the results
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 26, 2012, 09:20:02 pm
Sounds like a plan  :happy2:

Looking forward to the results

X2 - get it done in time for JKM in October eh  :wink:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 26, 2012, 09:23:02 pm
oh yea it will deffo be done by then.   i removed my engine last week,  car is looking sorry for it self on the drive!

cdl engine should come next week!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2012, 09:25:58 pm
How much did you get the engine for James?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: damoegan on June 26, 2012, 09:29:49 pm
yeh its from vagoc, between jonny and dan they spent over £20k on that engine. didnt see anything amazing from it in terms of track times or videos but i know jonny always takes his cars to trusted places and pays hansomly for the skilled staff to do his work.

I logged Dan's car running this setup last year, monster  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 26, 2012, 09:39:10 pm
£800 with no turbo.


yea i am tempted to spend 6k on that engine but i dont need it all.    but i could sell the parts i dont want.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: E30Dom on June 27, 2012, 02:03:13 pm
What's the cdl engine from?

Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 27, 2012, 06:28:51 pm
golf r and new seat i think.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: RedRobin on June 27, 2012, 06:56:24 pm
.
Forgiving my ignorance but is "cdl" an engine code? CDL?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on June 27, 2012, 06:59:42 pm
Yea it is the newest 2.0 TFSI engine(strongest).  They use it in the golf R and new S3

Think its full name is a CDLA
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: DanGB on June 27, 2012, 09:02:13 pm
Excellent james, looking forward to seeing your new plans..

just had my engine rebuilt too on another note ;)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Sammy on June 27, 2012, 09:15:25 pm
Yea it is the newest 2.0 TFSI engine(strongest).  They use it in the golf R and new S3

Think its full name is a CDLA

Same engine as mine  :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on July 03, 2012, 06:59:01 pm
pick up my new engine tomoz woohoo!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fnewen1.jpg&hash=d975467ed751d5faada058d7294251d048954ba8)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fnewen2.jpg&hash=b5f7de62d17ca84f7e23d787e6977580edc93844)

I will have k04 / s3 injecters / 4x4 box for sale once i pick it up  :happy2:

looking forward to getting the old girl back on the road! :drinking:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on July 03, 2012, 07:00:17 pm
Looking forward to seeing what HP this is producing when your finished  :notworthy:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on July 04, 2012, 07:06:26 pm
going to fit it monday,  do some logging and see how see runs!

fingers crossed i wont have the same problems as sammy :confused:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: bacillus on July 04, 2012, 10:51:01 pm
fingers crossed i wont have the same problems as sammy :confused:

It takes alot of effort to have problems like Sammy...   :smiley:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: RedRobin on July 04, 2012, 11:08:57 pm

fingers crossed i wont have the same problems as sammy :confused:


It takes alot of effort to have problems like Sammy...   :smiley:


.... :signLOL: That's very funny!

Reminds me of Dolly Parton saying: "It takes a lot of money to look this cheap".
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: Hedge on July 04, 2012, 11:09:23 pm
fingers crossed i wont have the same problems as sammy :confused:

It takes alot of effort to have problems like Sammy...   :smiley:

Actually I think it doesn't take much to not have problems like Sammy.  :wink:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on July 05, 2012, 12:50:44 pm
im fitting it my self, so should be fine.

soon find out!.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: james on July 26, 2012, 01:23:57 pm
OK well I changed the engine/gearbox  in a couple of days on my own was rather easy really. 


Removed the front end / loom / pipes/ drive shafts so I could get my nacked old engine out

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout1.jpg&hash=d89f16d7acf4ef493be739266fa35d64b6ebe4ae)

No more engine woohoo  :drinking:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout2.jpg&hash=4fcf7b5f9eb2b69eca406aa319da74912453149e)

Prepped my new engine,  removed  S3 gearbox and cut up engine loom where they had ripped it out of a stolen car.  Then started moving over my mods.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout3.jpg&hash=24d5341e1fa08b20fcaef9ac216f7b5333c323b2)

Then I removed both clutchs/fly wheels was a mega pain in the butt.  Here is the state of my clutch, it has done 3k,

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout4.jpg&hash=5380e460a57f595a8e4f911b56329603564f4001)

Installed clutch on new engine

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout5.jpg&hash=dec9df54ea385c96bf4fd0e8c7fca774d8932abe)

The hardest part was getting the gearbox back on!  So hard to line up on your own! Nearly killed me!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout6.jpg&hash=ed27740dc1272adcd045d78d9f95f067a57aa2ad)

Reinstalled engine and connected everything back up + bleed the clutch.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout7.jpg&hash=7c15b3bc90627c99ba2c53cd19bce8467fec7838)


Had loads of while smoke coming out of the back when I first started it up, then realised it was all the oil from the last engine!

Just need to get my map changed then can’t wait to go for a proper trash!

These CDL engines sound sweet compared to the AXX and BWA


Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: scopes on July 26, 2012, 01:30:19 pm
Great Job James, even more so for doing it yourself....  :happy2:

Cant wait to see how this goes...
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: rich83 on July 26, 2012, 01:33:18 pm
CDL? So that's basically the same as the ed30 unit?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (Dead)
Post by: TheBIGJAYY on July 26, 2012, 01:52:19 pm
OK well I changed the engine/gearbox  in a couple of days on my own was rather easy really. 


Removed the front end / loom / pipes/ drive shafts so I could get my nacked old engine out

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout1.jpg&hash=d89f16d7acf4ef493be739266fa35d64b6ebe4ae)

No more engine woohoo  :drinking:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout2.jpg&hash=4fcf7b5f9eb2b69eca406aa319da74912453149e)

Prepped my new engine,  removed  S3 gearbox and cut up engine loom where they had ripped it out of a stolen car.  Then started moving over my mods.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout3.jpg&hash=24d5341e1fa08b20fcaef9ac216f7b5333c323b2)

Then I removed both clutchs/fly wheels was a mega pain in the butt.  Here is the state of my clutch, it has done 3k,

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout4.jpg&hash=5380e460a57f595a8e4f911b56329603564f4001)

Installed clutch on new engine

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout5.jpg&hash=dec9df54ea385c96bf4fd0e8c7fca774d8932abe)

The hardest part was getting the gearbox back on!  So hard to line up on your own! Nearly killed me!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout6.jpg&hash=ed27740dc1272adcd045d78d9f95f067a57aa2ad)

Reinstalled engine and connected everything back up + bleed the clutch.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fengineout7.jpg&hash=7c15b3bc90627c99ba2c53cd19bce8467fec7838)


Had loads of while smoke coming out of the back when I first started it up, then realised it was all the oil from the last engine!

Just need to get my map changed then can’t wait to go for a proper trash!

These CDL engines sound sweet compared to the AXX and BWA




 :scared: you clearly know what your doing! good work mate!! i would have a clue on where to start with doing this!!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: Hedge on July 26, 2012, 01:55:11 pm
CDL? So that's basically the same as the ed30 unit?

CDL is from S3. BYD is Ed30 iirc. Basically the same apart from a few minor details.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: RobH on July 26, 2012, 01:56:46 pm
Brave you definitely deserve a round of :congrats:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: james on July 26, 2012, 04:56:59 pm
it was not bad when i got into it,  got one of them picture memories so was easy really.

i also redone the loom so my n75 connection come out in the correct place, i hated that wire over the top of the engine. :jumpmove:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: james on July 28, 2012, 04:17:29 pm
Well i talked with nick(r-tech) about my map and he explained if i changed my fuel sensor under the inlet manifold it would be fine.

Changed it to day!  I have all my power back whoop  :driver:

....

Then the AC pump seized and snapping my belt!  Was not fun but luckily I had a spare!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: GarethB on July 28, 2012, 07:34:46 pm
Great to hear that it's back  :happy2:

One of the best cars on this site, no expense ever spared on the car and it gets driven properly too  :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: E30Dom on July 29, 2012, 10:07:07 am
NIce work James! Can't wait to see some figures from the new engine! ;)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: james on July 29, 2012, 11:18:23 am
yea i am looking forward to it also!

Does anyone know what belt i would need not to run the AC pump?

I want to do a RR befor and after to see if it does take any power away when it is not running.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: RobH on July 29, 2012, 12:45:10 pm
In this thread :happy2: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,51217.0.html
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: james on July 31, 2012, 01:41:52 pm
Installed one of the braces while i was up seeing nick at r-tech.  You can defiantly feel the difference in body roll!  just have to install my rear brace.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fbrace.jpg&hash=4ab532a49d0b3b810efb9cc1d0ea14a953baac46)

Nick giving my car some go fast juice lol!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fmeth.jpg&hash=3ebf9d96b0f8cd8dec95a9901f1cf27441911a4c)

We had a play with the map, car does need more fine tuning, as the CDL engine runs totally different to my old BWA but we ended up with 360bhp and 390ftlb so is still fun to drive :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: GarethB on July 31, 2012, 04:32:25 pm
Great stuff - any difference to the way it drives between the CDL & BWA? Does it 'feel' stronger?

Is Nick confident that he'll find your missing bhp?

I'll have to speak to you later in the week about a custom map from Nick to accommodate my future planned mods - got far too many questions at the mo and don't want to clog up your thread.

Great to see that the car is back  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: Hedge on July 31, 2012, 05:09:24 pm
Nice to see this back up and running James.  :happy2:

I wonder how dear old Sammy's getting on?  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: GarethB on July 31, 2012, 05:17:04 pm
I wonder how dear old Sammy's getting on?  :evilgrin:

 :evilgrin: pmsl - I thought the same when the hailstone thread & video was posted.

Any chance he could be allowed back for an update???
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (back from the dead)
Post by: TT-Turbo on July 31, 2012, 06:04:28 pm
Impressive work changing that motor on your drive. Best of luck with the project, it's certainly making an interesting read  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on August 29, 2012, 09:45:30 pm
I popped up to r-tech today to get my mapped tweaked as I felt it was not running 100% due to the engine change;

The end result for now,
394BHP /373lbs 25psi peak then 19/20psi to redline
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fcdlrr.jpg&hash=543f9cf4eb46ded90f9072656a1357e594fde856)
I have also asked nick to create a 30psi map so i can get more torque, as I liked getting chucked into the back of my seat  :driver:


Though i would also share the state of my old inlet on the BWA engine.  It has only done 40k  i was rather shocked.  I was running 50/50 meth also so thought it might of been cleaner.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Finlet1.jpg&hash=978558aa4f18f66e064de92f711c5693d659a8ea)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Finlet2.jpg&hash=5f3af4d22663ea08f372425fa5ea8d42f2d7f63f)
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: Hedge on August 29, 2012, 10:08:24 pm
Is this without the WMI at the moment?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: DanGB on August 30, 2012, 03:02:26 pm
What happens if the meth stops for whatever reason full chat?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: E30Dom on August 30, 2012, 03:25:13 pm
Surely this with WMI, AWESOME figures! Why doesn;t my KO4 produce this!?  :confused:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on August 30, 2012, 04:42:44 pm
James those inlets look pretty good. Bit dark (stained) but not much carbon build up at all. I'd say the WMI has helped there, compared to some of the inlet pics I've seen  :happy2:

Graeme
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: bacillus on August 30, 2012, 07:43:25 pm
What happens if the meth stops for whatever reason full chat?

Maybe he's got a Polar to alert him of rising CFs and egt... 
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 03, 2012, 02:10:01 pm
yea it is with WMI  -  it is all down to the tuner ;)  i do have more power now but it is in testing!   :driver:



I have run out of WMI during full chat,  you just see the light go out and you let off.   A small amount wont do damage as the engine will notice and pull its self back.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: h4rdy on September 04, 2012, 04:26:04 am
What happens if the meth stops for whatever reason full chat?

You can get it wired in to cut the N75.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: Statller-Stevo on September 04, 2012, 08:35:04 am
Wicked results James that's mad power for a stock K04 car, be very fast on the road  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 04, 2012, 10:00:33 am
What happens if the meth stops for whatever reason full chat?

You can get it wired in to cut the N75.

you got any info on how to do that?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 04, 2012, 10:01:02 am
Wicked results James that's mad power for a stock K04 car, be very fast on the road  :happy2:


yea it is not bad  :happy2:  still more to be had, that is the safe map :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: vRSAlex on September 04, 2012, 10:25:23 am
What happens if the meth stops for whatever reason full chat?

You can get it wired in to cut the N75.

you got any info on how to do that?

I do  :happy2:

Simple relay arrangment that cuts the earth to the N75.  BDM borrowed STOLE all my old wiring diagrams and special info when I left so I will have to find the info stuck deep in my head.

Drop me a PM.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 13, 2012, 01:33:28 pm
tried to pm you a few times mate, no reply.

any help would be cool :drinking:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: vRSAlex on September 13, 2012, 02:08:21 pm
tried to pm you a few times mate, no reply.

any help would be cool :drinking:

What meth kit are you running?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 13, 2012, 02:16:00 pm
snow performance stage 3 kit
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: vRSAlex on September 13, 2012, 09:27:58 pm
I will look at the wiring for the kit and see what way the relay would need to be.

As long as the kit allows it.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 13, 2012, 10:09:12 pm
Could I run a relay from the low fluid switch so it would make it ground the the n75?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: vRSAlex on September 13, 2012, 10:12:41 pm
Most kits have their own wire that you can use as a cutout.  Not sure if your kit has that.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: Dan.b on September 13, 2012, 10:19:48 pm
James did you get my pm/email?

Really sorry to post this in your thread but just need to know if you can help me out with the sensor.

Thanks. 
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: h4rdy on September 13, 2012, 11:15:15 pm
What happens if the meth stops for whatever reason full chat?

You can get it wired in to cut the N75.

you got any info on how to do that?

Sorry James missed that but it was Alex who told me anyway.

I know the AEM kit allows this, the one I will be getting, but as Alex says not sure.

You will be able to MAP it upto the Meth then :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: DanGB on September 14, 2012, 02:06:01 pm
I wouldnt rely on just the low fluid sensor to know if meth is working. My snow kit is working intermittantly at the moment. The tank is full though.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 14, 2012, 04:33:49 pm
Yea might just buy a flow kit for it
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: vRSAlex on September 14, 2012, 08:47:49 pm
Had a look at the wiring info on the kit.  Doesn't have a specific wire that can be used.  Would have to go through the led.  Maybe fit a buzzer to the wire.  More noticeable than an led.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on September 17, 2012, 11:24:57 am
ok mate, thanks for your help.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: h4rdy on September 17, 2012, 11:35:25 am
James thanks for the HPFP, all rebuilt and running fine.

J
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: paulmk5gti on October 10, 2012, 02:14:37 pm
 :wink: very good read
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: paulmk5gti on October 10, 2012, 02:18:42 pm
hi james looking for a bit of advice i am replacing my bwa with golf R CDL engine would it be best to use all the sensors from my bwa engine? and then get a custom remap from r tech  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on October 10, 2012, 02:59:25 pm
hi mate, you just need to install the G247 High Pressure Fuel Sensor and map sensor from your bwa then your be ready to go  :driver:

you can drive the car but dont give it any beans,  your just hear the engine loading due to the n75 request.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: paulmk5gti on October 10, 2012, 03:05:07 pm
thanks james any other hints and tips lol  :laugh:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: scopes on October 10, 2012, 03:22:24 pm
hi mate, you just need to install the G247 High Pressure Fuel Sensor and map sensor from your bwa then your be ready to go  :driver:

you can drive the car but dont give it any beans,  your just hear the engine loading due to the n75 request.

Hey James

With the G247 High Pressure Fuel Sensor, are these different on say the ed30, s3, Cdl engines compared to the BWA ?

thanks
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on October 10, 2012, 03:49:04 pm
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2012, 03:51:10 pm
The whole engine or just the G247 :signLOL:

The G247 should take an hour and some 'modified' spanners. :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on October 10, 2012, 03:51:56 pm
takes 15 min :happy2:

it is not like the rs4 valve  :mad:
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2012, 03:57:54 pm
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:


James, I can't believe this. I have had a lean problem for ages and spent loads trying to sort. I changed my G247 about a year ago due to, turns out in the end, a map problem.

It was given to me, I have my original Jesus I really hope it is I just bought new injectors!

Can you remember your fault code?

Lean off idle by any chance?
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on October 10, 2012, 04:03:26 pm
Yea was something like that, took me a little while to work out just started playing with the sensors and found this one to be the problem.

When i looked into it, i found out they are different on the ed30/s3/r have two points of signal and the axx/bwa have one.  Once I installed my old one problem solved.

why did you change it??

You can also correct it in the map.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: james on October 20, 2012, 04:40:52 pm
Well I popped to r-tech for a couple of days for some testing to find out really what this turbo can do with WMI!

We started off by setting up launch control at 4k but it was abit of an epic fail, the car has way too much power and just sits there!  So I asked nick to have a look into limiting the power in 1&2nd to see  if we could get a good launch!  (still in testing)

The next fun part was seeing what we could get out of the old girl!   The car was producing good power 380hp/400ftlb but the turbo was tailing off so much at the top end!  (like normal)  So went about adjusting the actuator on the turbo .  We found it nearly made 50hp on the stop end! but you lose it down low but that suites me.

The next problem was we were getting a dip at 5800rpm then it would pick back up at 6200. Logged the LPFP and it was dropping to 3.9bar :(   So I got the latest revision from TPS “1K0 919 051 DB” + new fuel filter it was then holding 4.2 bar  so it is better but will need an inline fuel pump!!

Also just a fyi  the car made an extra 12hp and 10bhp just buy installing a new fuel pump and filter!  (might be something to look into?)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Frrnew.jpg&hash=79a56e427571c60c642e5cb5e3a65265cd267668)

In the end we left the car with some more testing required, but this was the end power result!  Good show for a standard k04 and WMI!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjunk.eclipse.co.uk%2Fnewcar%2Fbuild%2Fbestrr.jpg&hash=9dec8e67c602f5a6fbdce8e5b1e836c64013f79b)



Must thank nick for a epic car :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: RedRobin on October 20, 2012, 05:26:36 pm
^^^^
You still coming to JKM next Saturday, James?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: h4rdy on October 20, 2012, 05:29:07 pm
I hope so I need to see it :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: james on October 21, 2012, 10:14:57 pm
Yea I'm still coming.  :happy2:

Just might get a little dip on the rr due to lpfp.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: kiddfrost on October 22, 2012, 09:08:21 pm
Well gotta say that 400bhp from a k04 is impressive.  You've gotta be doing the wrong side of half a litre a minute on the water meth at 400bhp surely?

Looking forward to seeing it on JKM's rollers..
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: Obese on October 22, 2012, 09:23:22 pm
I have only just read this thread and your car is a very simular spec to mine, i am definately thinking a trip to rtec is in order :happy2:

love it :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: james on October 23, 2012, 12:07:30 pm
I dont use much meth at all,   all day on the rr i only used 2L      i only use it from 20 psi

on my bwa i used loads cdl does not need so much.



Obese  - You should go see him! fantastic service!
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: james on October 23, 2012, 05:23:05 pm
Anyone else got launch control for their manual GTIs?

Wondering how you find it,    i have tried it at 3k & 4k   but seems to bog down or spin lol.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: danishmkvgti on October 23, 2012, 05:37:19 pm
Anyone else got launch control for their manual GTIs?

Wondering how you find it,    i have tried it at 3k & 4k   but seems to bog down or spin lol.

I have just had it fitted, not tried it yet though  :smiley:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: nezquick on October 23, 2012, 05:48:31 pm
Anyone else got launch control for their manual GTIs?

Wondering how you find it,    i have tried it at 3k & 4k   but seems to bog down or spin lol.

I have just had it fitted, not tried it yet though  :smiley:

what kit is that with? omex or wotbox? or did you have it mapped in somehow?

Thanks
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 23, 2012, 05:52:23 pm

The race logic traction control / launch looks very trick  :innocent:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on October 23, 2012, 05:57:28 pm
it is in the remap,  no funky tools needed.

just bounces of 3k in natural when your foot is to the floor.


Just trying to get the hang of it lol
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: nezquick on October 23, 2012, 06:01:32 pm
Id this a custom map or did you have it added to a revo/apr/etc? if so did it cost much if you dont mind me asking? would be really interested in getting launch control. when you say in neutral you mean in gear with clutch depressed right?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on October 23, 2012, 06:06:00 pm
custom map, did not cost me anything im a r-tech guinea pig somthing new to try  :drinking:  "when you say in neutral you mean in gear with clutch depressed right?" correct.

you get a nice little burrble to  :happy2: nothing like the 5pot STs!!  :confused:

Was not sure if anyone else had it from another company and how they found it.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Shorty on October 23, 2012, 06:15:54 pm
James - On your launch control, does it build boost when your sitting there with the revs held at 3,000rpm like proper launch?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on October 23, 2012, 06:21:53 pm
no, did not think you needed it as it does that when you dump the clutch.    If i had boost also i would never move.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp 447lbft ;)
Post by: danishmkvgti on October 23, 2012, 06:34:03 pm
Anyone else got launch control for their manual GTIs?

Wondering how you find it,    i have tried it at 3k & 4k   but seems to bog down or spin lol.

I have just had it fitted, not tried it yet though  :smiley:

what kit is that with? omex or wotbox? or did you have it mapped in somehow?

Thanks

Along with the LO4XX Brian has fitted the Wotbox i have had laying around for app. 6 month. He's out dialling the map in now, just spoke with him, and he kept grinning  :drool:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Shorty on October 23, 2012, 06:40:45 pm
no, did not think you needed it as it does that when you dump the clutch.    If i had boost also i would never move.

Haha yes, but on a 4wd car it would be awesome. My friend is working on this at the moment, proper launch control that makes boost but on the standard management too.

We want to get it to work on DSG cars aswell, so when your sitting with launch control on at 4,000 rpm your making say 15psi of boost, now that be fun on an S3!
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on October 23, 2012, 06:51:29 pm
I just talked with nick r tech and it is not possible to get boost as the ecu works on load to make boost.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: chungster on October 23, 2012, 07:28:22 pm
I just talked with nick r tech and it is not possible to get boost as the ecu works on load to make boost.

Can they not "trick" the ECU into thinking it is making load (as everything is run by computers and sensors anyway) ??
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: rtechniki on October 23, 2012, 07:50:26 pm
To make it happen a new sub function routine would need to be patched into a blank space of the MED9 ecu code.  The raw basics off the function would need to allow the throttle plate to be fully open while clutch swith pressed, at the same time the timing needs to be removed to produce heat and to hold the engine speed static, then all the other functions will need to be changed to allow it to work and not trigger limp mode or faults, one being the missfire controls and timing controls.   
  The hard bit is getting the car to build boost static with out load on the engine, its a bit like wheel spinning in the wet the lost of traction reduces the engine load and the boost wont match its target request.

ME7.5 launch control with boost build can be done, http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=607.0    but ME9 ecu is much more complex and I cannot see a perfect anti lag launch happening without the aid of external equipment.


Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: rtechniki on October 23, 2012, 07:59:12 pm
At the moment the only option for MED9 launch control is a 2 step function to aid traction like and F1 car, not to build boost like a rally car.

This is the first fully woking version of a 2step aid traction launch which I have wrote for the MED9 ecu for my ST maps.  I am now working on to add it and getting it working perfect on VAG MED9.

Video > http://hexplus.co.uk/

and my first effort of traction launch control on me7.5 1.8T ecu 


IMO having a boost build launch on a 2wd tfsi will be over kill,  on a Golf R or S3 it would be epic.......  Look at the APR 2step launch on keith's Golf R........AWESOME!!!!
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: rtechniki on October 25, 2012, 09:38:13 am
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:

We found the k03 ecus run a 140bar rail pressure sensor with a 2 point linear 0-5v scale in the software, and the k04 ecus run a 200bar sensor with a 3 point 0-5v scale to give better reading at higher rail demands.   Since finding this out on james CDL I have now produced a base map to run the k04 sensors on the k03 sw.
Title: Re: Re: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: paulmk5gti on October 25, 2012, 12:22:36 pm
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:

We found the k03 ecus run a 140bar rail pressure sensor with a 2 point linear 0-5v scale in the software, and the k04 ecus run a 200bar sensor with a 3 point 0-5v scale to give better reading at higher rail demands.   Since finding this out on james CDL I have now produced a base map to run the k04 sensors on the k03 sw.
this sounds very interesting as I am in the middle of dropping a CDL Engine in to my mk5 so it would be benifcial running the k04 rail pressure sensor rather than the k03 sensor? 8)8)
Title: Re: Re: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: danishmkvgti on October 25, 2012, 12:39:19 pm
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:

We found the k03 ecus run a 140bar rail pressure sensor with a 2 point linear 0-5v scale in the software, and the k04 ecus run a 200bar sensor with a 3 point 0-5v scale to give better reading at higher rail demands.   Since finding this out on james CDL I have now produced a base map to run the k04 sensors on the k03 sw.
this sounds very interesting as I am in the middle of dropping a CDL Engine in to my mk5 so it would be benifcial running the k04 rail pressure sensor rather than the k03 sensor? 8)8)

Unless you use the ECU from the CDL it won't work, H4RDY has made a topic abut this.
Title: Re: Re: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: h4rdy on October 25, 2012, 12:47:52 pm
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:

We found the k03 ecus run a 140bar rail pressure sensor with a 2 point linear 0-5v scale in the software, and the k04 ecus run a 200bar sensor with a 3 point 0-5v scale to give better reading at higher rail demands.   Since finding this out on james CDL I have now produced a base map to run the k04 sensors on the k03 sw.
this sounds very interesting as I am in the middle of dropping a CDL Engine in to my mk5 so it would be benifcial running the k04 rail pressure sensor rather than the k03 sensor? 8)8)

Unless you use the ECU from the CDL it won't work, H4RDY has made a topic abut this.

All because of this thread.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: scopes on October 25, 2012, 01:31:56 pm
Or it can be mapped in to it, by your mappers
Title: Re: Re: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: rtechniki on October 25, 2012, 07:18:48 pm
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:

We found the k03 ecus run a 140bar rail pressure sensor with a 2 point linear 0-5v scale in the software, and the k04 ecus run a 200bar sensor with a 3 point 0-5v scale to give better reading at higher rail demands.   Since finding this out on james CDL I have now produced a base map to run the k04 sensors on the k03 sw.
this sounds very interesting as I am in the middle of dropping a CDL Engine in to my mk5 so it would be benifcial running the k04 rail pressure sensor rather than the k03 sensor? 8)8)

Unless you use the ECU from the CDL it won't work, H4RDY has made a topic abut this.



The AXX software is the 2 point reference rail sensor mapping   0.5v = 0 MPa / 4.5v =14 MPa
The BWA software is a 3 point reference rail sensor mapping     0.5v = 0 MPa / 2.5v = 7 MPa / 4.5v = 14 MPa
The CDL BWJ is also a 3 point reference rail sensor mapping     0.5v = 0 MPa / 2.5v = 10 MPa / 4.5v = 20 MPa

In theory we can change the 4.5v point to 20 MPa in the AXX mapping it will work fine as its just linear voltage to work with the CDL sensors.  Its not an issues with the BWA software we can just use 0.5v = 0 MPa / 2.5v = 10 MPa / 4.5v = 20 MPa from the CDL mapping.

Anyone else know what other sensors differ across the AXX BWA CDL and BWJ engines?  I cant look in to the software and see what can be used and what needs attention in the SW.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on October 27, 2012, 05:50:20 pm
James - seriously impressed with yours today  :laugh:

Cheers for the ride  :happy2:

That 1st gear limiter is comical though  :grin:

Get that graph up on here  :party:

Graeme
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: andy redz on October 28, 2012, 01:47:08 pm
 :popcornsoda: nice build ..
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on November 01, 2012, 03:05:23 pm
here is my jkm result

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg338.imageshack.us%2Fimg338%2F8438%2F66201486232019576662398.jpg&hash=f5fd7de6ed718b3d711388bb68687e9a7df78521)

It will be going AWD  :innocent:

GrayMK5GTI  - Yea it is good fun to drive lol.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: vRSAlex on November 01, 2012, 05:51:39 pm
James, what boost are you peaking and holding at?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on November 02, 2012, 11:20:34 pm
spikes to 30 and holds around 19/20 at redline
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: vRSAlex on November 03, 2012, 08:26:14 am
spikes to 30 and holds around 19/20 at redline

That's after the actuator has been tightened up?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: h4rdy on November 03, 2012, 10:46:14 am
spikes to 30 and holds around 19/20 at redline

That's after the actuator has been tightened up?

I believe so Alex.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on November 03, 2012, 04:31:17 pm
that is correct  :happy2:

problem is with this turbo, if you set the duty to 70% top end you will put the same power even if you set it to 100% as it blows the westgate open.

Would be intrested to see what would happen if you installed a stronger spring.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 03, 2012, 04:39:40 pm
Using the forge actuator or oem?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: h4rdy on November 03, 2012, 04:40:09 pm
I've been thinking of a forge actuator with a stronger spring?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Statller-Stevo on November 03, 2012, 04:57:00 pm
Got a forge actuator if you want it, had it on my last hybrid Fuxxin horrible!
Gave Massive boost spike the but to be fair we tensioned it a wee bit  :grin: made 450ft lb on spike but tailed off like a bitch after was a quick car though tbh!
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on November 03, 2012, 05:03:43 pm
yea i get 450ftlb but like you say it tails off fast like you can see in my rr

i cant be arsed to take the turbo out to change it, would rather just stick a bigger turbo on if i was going to do that  :signLOL:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Statller-Stevo on November 03, 2012, 05:12:14 pm
yea i get 450ftlb but like you say it tails off fast like you can see in my rr

i cant be arsed to take the turbo out to change it, would rather just stick a bigger turbo on if i was going to do that  :signLOL:

U don't need to remove the blower to fit the actuator but it is a PITA to get too!!! Reach for the TCP after etc.
TBH James you don't need it at all Your doing far too well as is !!  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: scopes on November 03, 2012, 11:48:22 pm
How much of an improvment would this make? ^^^^^
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: rtechniki on November 05, 2012, 09:12:46 am
would be nice to really see what happens if the wastegaste dont blow open,   :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on November 05, 2012, 09:16:59 am
buy me one and we will test befor i go ;)
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on November 05, 2012, 09:00:58 pm
buy me one and we will test befor i go ;)

Is that go 2.5 TT engine?  :wink:

Or go somewhere else  :grin:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: h4rdy on November 09, 2012, 06:08:09 am
After a quick search Hurdy seemed to get good results from the forge? On his ed30.

Ill have a chat with Alex later if I remember.
Title: Re: James GTI with K04 (re-remapped)
Post by: vag12 on November 10, 2012, 12:56:30 am
yep, the s3 g247 made my engine run lean.

It is do with the voltage they signal on,  bwa has one point and it seems the s3 has to points.


Tips.
Just change it on your drive! only took me 1.5 days on my own, really easily job  :drinking:


Where is this sensor located and do you have a part number for it?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: vRSAlex on November 13, 2012, 12:55:01 pm
Your old piston and the bits that fell off it:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv489%2Ffordkaracing%2F20121113_125059.jpg&hash=abf8f6b1dedc837dc6fd1470dc9259a8a761206d)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv489%2Ffordkaracing%2F20121113_125207.jpg&hash=20059c76062afd3df42f8f16c101dea132f1b25e)

First time ive seen this happen!
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on November 13, 2012, 01:06:47 pm
blimey  :surprised:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: rich83 on November 13, 2012, 03:33:28 pm
 :scared:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on November 13, 2012, 04:48:36 pm
looks just run in to me   :signLOL:

crazy the rods did not bend.

is everything else ok inside?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Hurdy on November 13, 2012, 05:03:19 pm
After a quick search Hurdy seemed to get good results from the forge? On his ed30.

It was an arse to fit and set-up like Steve jr says, but gave decent results. I don't know if I'd bother again though for the small benefit v's hassle.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Poverty on November 13, 2012, 06:46:47 pm
Your old piston and the bits that fell off it:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv489%2Ffordkaracing%2F20121113_125059.jpg&hash=abf8f6b1dedc837dc6fd1470dc9259a8a761206d)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv489%2Ffordkaracing%2F20121113_125207.jpg&hash=20059c76062afd3df42f8f16c101dea132f1b25e)

First time ive seen this happen!

Only time ive ever seen something like that is from a pic tim at race developments posted. Someone put diesel into their petrol engine and that was the end result!  :surprised:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: DanGB on November 13, 2012, 06:57:38 pm
Snap...

Apparently mine was still making 400hp before they took it apart... :confused:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fpistonring.JPG&hash=41e707ef5bfef151afe7701ec38ac50aadd5b826)
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: rtechniki on November 14, 2012, 07:07:30 pm
Both BWA? both 400bhp?

Which cylinder did your piston break up on Dan?

Nick
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on January 03, 2013, 04:54:54 am
it was the same as mine, just noticed this post.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: MightyMullet on January 06, 2013, 08:10:16 am
Just read all this and its safe to say you are nuts mate, absolutely crazy build, didnt think these engines would cope with anywhere near that much power, impressive stuff.
Need to see where this is going,
Would have to be crazier than you not to sub to this  :stupid:
 :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 06, 2013, 10:02:12 am
Just read all this and its safe to say you are nuts mate, absolutely crazy build, didnt think these engines would cope with anywhere near that much power, impressive stuff.
Need to see where this is going,
Would have to be crazier than you not to sub to this  :stupid:
 :happy2:

I had a passenger ride in it. Awesome torque, you can feel every bit of the 450lb/ft. It spins the wheels in 4th in the dry  :grin:

Mighty impressive considering it's basically a K04 stage 2+ with WMI  :notworthy:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: MightyMullet on January 06, 2013, 05:41:01 pm
Just read all this and its safe to say you are nuts mate, absolutely crazy build, didnt think these engines would cope with anywhere near that much power, impressive stuff.
Need to see where this is going,
Would have to be crazier than you not to sub to this  :stupid:
 :happy2:

I had a passenger ride in it. Awesome torque, you can feel every bit of the 450lb/ft. It spins the wheels in 4th in the dry  :grin:


Mighty impressive considering it's basically a K04 stage 2+ with WMI  :notworthy:

Jealous! Sounds like an absolute animal!
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: rubber toe on January 06, 2013, 07:45:28 pm
Love this car and really impressive figures too ,also got to love the attitude towards the modding too  :happy2:
Drive it hard and if stuff breaks build it better  :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on January 07, 2013, 10:10:38 am
I do miss the old girl!! In new zealand for a year driving a 4 wheeled bus doing a tour around :signLOL:. Forgot how slow cars are!!  At least she gets a year off in a nice warm garage  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: speedracer90 on January 07, 2013, 10:35:33 pm
Nice
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 08, 2013, 09:17:39 pm
I do miss the old girl!! In new zealand for a year driving a 4 wheeled bus doing a tour around :signLOL:. Forgot how slow cars are!!  At least she gets a year off in a nice warm garage  :pomppomp:

I could have looked after her for a year for you  :jumping:

Haha
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on January 09, 2013, 09:10:17 am
I do miss the old girl!! In new zealand for a year driving a 4 wheeled bus doing a tour around :signLOL:. Forgot how slow cars are!!  At least she gets a year off in a nice warm garage  :pomppomp:

I could have looked after her for a year for you  :jumping:

Haha

Lol I said nick could have it :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 06, 2013, 11:36:58 pm
Only just found this thread, alot of effort gone into this  :congrats:. Shame the images seem to have dissapeared though.

What is the current spec of the car?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 06, 2013, 11:39:59 pm
Only just found this thread, alot of effort gone into this  :congrats:. Shame the images seem to have dissapeared though.

What is the current spec of the car?

James is abroad so the car hasn't changed in a while.

It's an amazing car considering its just bolt-ons with the original turbo  :notworthy:

I would love to build something if this spec one day.

Sy - have you realised from reading this thread that R-Tech has an "h" on the end?  :laugh:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 06, 2013, 11:44:23 pm
My Keyboard doesnt have a h on it....

Interested to know what his full bolt on list is though.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 07, 2013, 06:51:51 am
My Keyboard doesnt have a h on it....

Interested to know what his full bolt on list is though.

I'll try to help, but I'm sure that I'll miss some bits.

- K04 upgrade to BWA
- BWA changed to CDL
- Full stage 2+ parts (Evoms, Autotech, R32 style catback, Decat)
- WMI
- Nology silver plugs
- THS I/C
- High flow intercooler and discharge pipes
- Catch can & pcv
- (very much) Custom R-Tech mapping (must have updated the map about 50 times)
- Quaiffe
- Helix clutch and SMF
- AP front brakes
- S3 rear brakes
- TT lower arms and front end poly bushed
- uprated ARBs

I'm sure there's more  :signLOL:

Car is outstanding and gets used properly too. Can't wait til it goes awd  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 07, 2013, 09:15:09 am
Cheers buddy. 


I was wandering if R-Tec(h) have run the fuel pump above 130bar for more power.  I know one of the latest updates to the APR GTx28 stage 3 setup is that it runs 150bar rail pressure with their HPFP.  Interested to see if R-Tech have looked at doing the same or if its just not worth it on the K04?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 07, 2013, 11:20:46 am
I was wandering if R-Tec(h) have run the fuel pump above 130bar for more power.  I know one of the latest updates to the APR GTx28 stage 3 setup is that it runs 150bar rail pressure with their HPFP.  Interested to see if R-Tech have looked at doing the same or if its just not worth it on the K04?

Would be interesting to know.

I still find it staggering that (through a combination of WMI & R-Tech's map) is that it pulled just under 60 bhp more than my Revo Stage 3 on JKM's RR, on the same day  :drool:

And before anyone says it, my car was running flawlessly on that day and was hitting the same figures as K04 Stage 2+ cars running on the same day.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: DSG_Steel on June 07, 2013, 11:42:54 am
What figures was yoh getting Garethb?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 07, 2013, 11:48:33 am
320 - about the norm for JKM's RR  :signLOL:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: DSG_Steel on June 07, 2013, 11:58:32 am
Lol what did you make on r-tech rollers?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 07, 2013, 12:09:38 pm
Never been on R-Techs.

James' pulled 378 bhp on JKMs and 401 bhp on R-Techs.

For a K04 car to achieve 378 bhp on JKM's rolling road is quite astonishing (imo)
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: DSG_Steel on June 07, 2013, 12:27:46 pm
Ah ok. Im looking to get my my ko4 bwa mapped at r-tech soon

Billy
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 07, 2013, 12:37:59 pm
Ah ok. Im looking to get my my ko4 bwa mapped at r-tech soon

Billy

You'll love it!  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: DBILAS on June 07, 2013, 04:19:54 pm
why cant i see pics?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: bacillus on June 07, 2013, 07:39:00 pm
why cant i see pics?

Open your eyes...   :laugh:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 07, 2013, 10:44:35 pm
Never been on R-Techs.

James' pulled 378 bhp on JKMs and 401 bhp on R-Techs.

For a K04 car to achieve 378 bhp on JKM's rolling road is quite astonishing (imo)

It was de-tuned to 378bhp on R-Techs rollers (LPFP couldn't cope properly). Made exactly the same on JKM's rollers as R-Techs.

Not sure if James has done the LPFP yet, that would allow him to run the full 400bhp. :evilgrin:

Didn't Steve P run his big turbo at JKM and make less power than James?  :grin:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 07, 2013, 10:46:03 pm
Not sure if James has done the LPFP yet, that would allow him to run the full 400bhp. :evilgrin:

Id like to se if upping the rail pressure to 150bar like the APR stage 3 setup will make a difference
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 07, 2013, 10:48:01 pm
Not sure if James has done the LPFP yet, that would allow him to run the full 400bhp. :evilgrin:

Id like to se if upping the rail pressure to 150bar like the APR stage 3 setup will make a difference

As Nick said, there's lots more playing around to be done with the TFSI's to see what they can really do.

I'm seriously tempted to build something like James car  :innocent: a lot of fun for not a lot of money
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 07, 2013, 11:01:46 pm

As Nick said, there's lots more playing around to be done with the TFSI's to see what they can really do.

I'm seriously tempted to build something like James car  :innocent: a lot of fun for not a lot of money

I see the incentive for this sort of thing, but when your able to spin the wheels in the 1st 4 gears in the dry, its to much IMO.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 07, 2013, 11:15:40 pm
That's why he's going 4wd on his return Sy  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 07, 2013, 11:21:50 pm
I'm seriously tempted to build something like James car  :innocent: a lot of fun for not a lot of money

Get it done Graeme, and then join us in the haldex convert crew  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 07, 2013, 11:28:13 pm
I'm seriously tempted to build something like James car  :innocent: a lot of fun for not a lot of money

Get it done Graeme, and then join us in the haldex convert crew  :happy2:

Gareth are you going HALDEX  :drool:

You will have to let me know when your booked in at R-Tech, ill come down  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GarethB on June 08, 2013, 08:32:32 am
That's the ultimate plan mate. Parts are arriving atm  :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on June 08, 2013, 09:00:53 am
i am sure I was running around 135bar.  I would be shocked if they was running 150bar as the rs4 valve could not cope with that.

Looking forward to go AWD.  Full boost launch would be epic!


I was just in the process of changing the LPFP before I left.

 :driver:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 08, 2013, 09:06:17 am
i am sure I was running around 135bar.  I would be shocked if they was running 150bar as the rs4 valve could not cope with that.

I was just in the process of changing the LPFP before I left.

 :driver:

Maybe they have changed the RS4 valve to something larger or maybe it can handle 150bar I don't know but they are running 150bar.

Maybe its a valve from the 2.0TSI as that is able to run 150bar standard
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on June 08, 2013, 12:28:40 pm
it is to do with how much they flow,  I think they crack also.

Would be good to find out.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 08, 2013, 03:37:34 pm
Alex (vRSAlex) should be able to tell us i think.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Hurdy on June 08, 2013, 04:13:27 pm
You can buy 145 and 155 bar fprv's too. The RS4 valve has a 136bar return pressure, but that doesn't mean you can't run higher fuel rail pressures, it just means that it is harder to maintain the pressure from the low pressure side. :smiley:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 08, 2013, 07:56:32 pm
R-Tech seem to be the ones who are pushing the boundaries of the K04 at the moment.  Havent seen them post in a bit though.  Id like to know if it makes the gains on a K04 or if its only GTX28 and ihgher turbos which yield the benefits?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on June 09, 2013, 06:57:19 am
that is interesting to know :drinking


Nick was using my car as the guinea pig lol...  im in NZ now so he needs someone new.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: james on September 08, 2013, 01:54:16 am
Hi all,

I have been offered a real good job in OZ so might be working there for 2 years :confused:  ( would like a TTrs when I get home)

So I am thinking of selling my car for 10k pm if your interested. (engine has only done 16k - 34k on the clock)

I am sure you could break It and get more money but im on the other side of the world.

Cheers
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: jordyyy on June 11, 2014, 09:40:13 pm
hi there mate, read through this post, car looks spot on, been on the look for a mk5 gti like this for a while now is there any chance i could have your email address so i could ping you an email just with a few more questions.

cheers

jordan
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 11, 2014, 10:28:58 pm
Still one of my favourite build threads this  :notworthy:

Well worth a read from start to finish. No one has pushed a K04 this far since  :sad1:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: jordyyy on June 11, 2014, 11:08:14 pm
if someone could PM james for me, telling him that i am interested, id be very grateful!
Not like this on the R32OC site, i dont see why i cant PM people unless i have ten posts :(

cheers
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 12, 2014, 08:55:32 am
if someone could PM james for me, telling him that i am interested, id be very grateful!
Not like this on the R32OC site, i dont see why i cant PM people unless i have ten posts :(

cheers

I've got him on Facebook, I'll drop him a message to look at his BT :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Pikey Motorsports on June 13, 2014, 10:35:29 pm
Still one of my favourite build threads this  :notworthy:

Well worth a read from start to finish. No one has pushed a K04 this far since  :sad1:

Does niki recommend this though? When the average joe comes in with similar spec he doesnt push the turbo that far on a regular basis and send them home kickin the ass out of a k04.. From what i recall the owner was was just testing the limits?
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 13, 2014, 11:41:48 pm
Nah it really isn't recommended, it will probably shorten the life of the turbo (although I'm no expert here).  It's a really peaky curve for the power and all that power comes in quite early in the rev range. A K04 hybrid would give a much better curve.

I've been a passenger in this car and it really is MENTAL  :laugh:

James wanted all out crazy power, and that is exactly what he got. Niki spent 3 days and 2 tanks of fuel getting this right on the dyno.

At JKM dyno day it made more power than a BT setup and nearly pulled itself out of the dyno  :scared:

Niki wouldn't send any average joe with this level of power, unless they understood what they were letting themselves in for (like James) it's a real specialist setup.

Would love to see what Niki could do with yours Pikey :drool: his new VVT mapping would help to spool that turbo earlier for starters  :notworthy:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: dan930 on June 14, 2014, 12:15:06 am
Nah it really isn't recommended, it will probably shorten the life of the turbo (although I'm no expert here).  It's a really peaky curve for the power and all that power comes in quite early in the rev range. A K04 hybrid would give a much better curve.

I've been a passenger in this car and it really is MENTAL  :laugh:

James wanted all out crazy power, and that is exactly what he got. Niki spent 3 days and 2 tanks of fuel getting this right on the dyno.

At JKM dyno day it made more power than a BT setup and nearly pulled itself out of the dyno  :scared:

Niki wouldn't send any average joe with this level of power, unless they understood what they were letting themselves in for (like James) it's a real specialist setup.

Would love to see what Niki could do with yours Pikey :drool: his new VVT mapping would help to spool that turbo earlier for starters  :notworthy:

Let see what he can do when he get my car with Nortech turbo kit :happy2:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Pikey Motorsports on June 14, 2014, 08:03:50 am
Nah it really isn't recommended, it will probably shorten the life of the turbo (although I'm no expert here).  It's a really peaky curve for the power and all that power comes in quite early in the rev range. A K04 hybrid would give a much better curve.

I've been a passenger in this car and it really is MENTAL  :laugh:

James wanted all out crazy power, and that is exactly what he got. Niki spent 3 days and 2 tanks of fuel getting this right on the dyno.

At JKM dyno day it made more power than a BT setup and nearly pulled itself out of the dyno  :scared:

Niki wouldn't send any average joe with this level of power, unless they understood what they were letting themselves in for (like James) it's a real specialist setup.

Would love to see what Niki could do with yours Pikey :drool: his new VVT mapping would help to spool that turbo earlier for starters  :notworthy:

It has cross my mind.. Revo are good to me so wouldnt be an overnight decision
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: danishmkvgti on June 14, 2014, 08:57:04 am
Nah it really isn't recommended, it will probably shorten the life of the turbo (although I'm no expert here).  It's a really peaky curve for the power and all that power comes in quite early in the rev range. A K04 hybrid would give a much better curve.

I've been a passenger in this car and it really is MENTAL  :laugh:

James wanted all out crazy power, and that is exactly what he got. Niki spent 3 days and 2 tanks of fuel getting this right on the dyno.

At JKM dyno day it made more power than a BT setup and nearly pulled itself out of the dyno  :scared:

Niki wouldn't send any average joe with this level of power, unless they understood what they were letting themselves in for (like James) it's a real specialist setup.

Would love to see what Niki could do with yours Pikey :drool: his new VVT mapping would help to spool that turbo earlier for starters  :notworthy:

It has cross my mind.. Revo are good to me though so wouldnt be an overnight decision

I'm sure REVO will cater for your needs Pikey M ;)
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 07, 2015, 04:11:33 pm
How was the SMF Helix Kit, James? Sorry for the revival?  I'll be at similar power soon so you are the vest person to ask!

Im currently sachs dmf / organic, which has been great and civilised as daily at 360hp
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Wash on June 07, 2015, 05:34:39 pm
How was the SMF Helix Kit, James? Sorry for the revival?  I'll be at similar power soon so you are the vest person to ask!

Im currently sachs dmf / organic, which has been great and civilised as daily at 360hp
Might be better of asking @J14RKL (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10575) as he's the one who owns this now.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 07, 2015, 07:17:42 pm
How was the SMF Helix Kit, James? Sorry for the revival?  I'll be at similar power soon so you are the vest person to ask!

Im currently sachs dmf / organic, which has been great and civilised as daily at 360hp

James has sold this to James Arkell - he's on TFSI Tuning FB group. I remember the clutch pedal was pretty heavy  :laugh:
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: J14RKL on July 02, 2015, 04:43:43 am
Only just seen this.
Yes i now own this car.

Clutch is very heavy but you get used to it. It has managed to break 4 sachs master cylinders and 2 FTE Masters. Also one fluid damper thingy....
I have changed to a 1 piece braided line to help with it.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 02, 2015, 04:48:33 pm
Only just seen this.
Yes i now own this car.

Clutch is very heavy but you get used to it. It has managed to break 4 sachs master cylinders and 2 FTE Masters. Also one fluid damper thingy....
I have changed to a 1 piece braided line to help with it.

That's the issue i cant be arsed with :( Ive ordered the one piece pipe mod
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: vRSAlex on July 02, 2015, 05:04:03 pm
Both James and myself use the older Helix cover.  The clutch in Dan's Leon was loads lighter and smoother than mine.
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 02, 2015, 09:51:05 pm

Ah forgot about the fancy new covers!
Title: Re: James GTI Ko4 2.0tfsi 401bhp - launch control?
Post by: kakluote on December 21, 2017, 02:01:09 am
how is this going on?

by engine is bwa too and i'd like to have k04 of 380bhp

currently i am using apr k04 tune