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Intake Manifold Flap
« on: April 26, 2019, 10:05:17 PM »
Hi Folks,

Getting the car ready for a remap in a few weeks and the following codes seem to be coming back. Tried the adaption aswell so no joy. When I clear the codes and the take the car out for a run its seems to have a bit more power which is annoying. Its looks my ECU has latest software for the flap control 0070 too. Can anyone help and point out what part no's I need here. The car is a 2005 axx. I take replace the flap motor should clear both codes.

Hoping someone has had this problem before and sorted it and could advise.

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Address 01: Engine       Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 115     HW: 1K0 907 115
  Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI  00 0070
           Software Coding: 0403000318070060
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00485 210 83213
                      VCID: E3C359D722D7EA06691-80B6
4 Faults Found:

012600 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
               P3138 - 008 - Regulation Deviation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 155549 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:50:57

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1090 /min
                    Load: 16.9 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 27.0°C
                    Temperature: 8.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.605 V

008200 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 1
               P2008 - 001 - Electrical Malfunction
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 155549 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:50:57

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 961 /min
                    Load: 20.8 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 56.0°C
                    Temperature: 48.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V


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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 01:04:22 AM »
Yup, electrical malfunction = dead/dying motor.  To confirm, you can run a VCDS output test on the flap motor and watch the arm moving......or not as the case may be!

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 01:09:44 PM »
How do you run a output test in vcds. I've got the same issue altho it don't bother me to be fair.

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2019, 12:45:43 PM »
It's on the engine module page iirc.  You just open it and choose from the drop-down list of available tests.  One of them is the intake flap.
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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2019, 12:56:03 PM »
Yeah I tried to do the test and "Refused by CM Module". I unplugged VCDS etc and then it worked. Also did another adaption - I could hear the motors working too when testing.

So even though the motors are moving this is a dying motor which needs to be replaced? Reason I ask that I found one on the ebay that looks in good nick (compared to alot of others) for £20.00. I called VW this morning and they want £260 including the vat for the motor...shocking but not suprising.

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2019, 01:54:31 PM »
Also I take it the throttle body has to come out to get the flap motor out? :thinking:

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2019, 02:45:55 PM »
The motors could be moving but the flaps might not be.   You can see the flap motor on the battery side of the intake manifold.  Once a year I pop the laptop on the engine and check the flap adjustment rod moves up and down, and the cooling fans come on etc.
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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2019, 09:48:25 AM »
It's on the engine module page iirc.  You just open it and choose from the drop-down list of available tests.  One of them is the intake flap.

Just run the teat and the arm moved backwards and forwards during the test. How far is it supposed to move in the test? Mine moved about 1cm constantly.

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2019, 02:34:24 PM »
Got a better look of the car last night but my vcds cable  melted a few nights ago by mistake, so had to order a newone. I was able to manually move the motor arm which at least tells me the flaps should be good.

However the motor I have ordered is  06F 133 482E and after some reading today It appears this might not work with a 2005 AXX. Before I try and swap it out can anyone confirm that the E will not work with AXX incase they have tried as don't want to have to change it twice.

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2019, 02:57:34 PM »
Got a better look of the car last night but my vcds cable  melted a few nights ago by mistake, so had to order a newone. I was able to manually move the motor arm which at least tells me the flaps should be good.

However the motor I have ordered is  06F 133 482E and after some reading today It appears this might not work with a 2005 AXX. Before I try and swap it out can anyone confirm that the E will not work with AXX incase they have tried as don't want to have to change it twice.

Many thanks
Liam

Hi Liam,
funny I've seen a couple of posts on the inlet flaps.. I believe I also may have a problem with either my motor, the flaps (faulty / carbon) or wiring! but no EML or fault codes! long story but I am slowly getting round to diagnosing my issue.

but in answer to your question, from what I've read online when reading into this part.. if your motor has a letter on the end then you can replace with the latest revision which is "E"

if your inlet flap motor has NO prefix letter on the end then you MUST replace with a NO PREFIX part!

so to put it simple: if the part number is "06F 133 482" then you must replace with "06F 133 482"

if the motors part number is: "06F 133 482 B" then you can happily go ahead with the latest revision "E"

hope this helps :)

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2019, 03:03:29 PM »
Got a better look of the car last night but my vcds cable  melted a few nights ago by mistake, so had to order a newone. I was able to manually move the motor arm which at least tells me the flaps should be good.

However the motor I have ordered is  06F 133 482E and after some reading today It appears this might not work with a 2005 AXX. Before I try and swap it out can anyone confirm that the E will not work with AXX incase they have tried as don't want to have to change it twice.

Many thanks
Liam

Hi Liam,
funny I've seen a couple of posts on the inlet flaps.. I believe I also may have a problem with either my motor, the flaps (faulty / carbon) or wiring! but no EML or fault codes! long story but I am slowly getting round to diagnosing my issue.

but in answer to your question, from what I've read online when reading into this part.. if your motor has a letter on the end then you can replace with the latest revision which is "E"

if your inlet flap motor has NO prefix letter on the end then you MUST replace with a NO PREFIX part!

so to put it simple: if the part number is "06F 133 482" then you must replace with "06F 133 482"

if the motors part number is: "06F 133 482 B" then you can happily go ahead with the latest revision "E"

hope this helps :)

Thanks  mate.

I am going to check later on what is stamped onto it but i feel it will be 06F 133 482.

IF you need one with an E, i got one delivered to day that looks in really good condition - no idea if it works tho - if you need it.

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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2019, 04:06:15 PM »
Got a better look of the car last night but my vcds cable  melted a few nights ago by mistake, so had to order a newone. I was able to manually move the motor arm which at least tells me the flaps should be good.

However the motor I have ordered is  06F 133 482E and after some reading today It appears this might not work with a 2005 AXX. Before I try and swap it out can anyone confirm that the E will not work with AXX incase they have tried as don't want to have to change it twice.

Many thanks
Liam

Hi Liam,
funny I've seen a couple of posts on the inlet flaps.. I believe I also may have a problem with either my motor, the flaps (faulty / carbon) or wiring! but no EML or fault codes! long story but I am slowly getting round to diagnosing my issue.

but in answer to your question, from what I've read online when reading into this part.. if your motor has a letter on the end then you can replace with the latest revision which is "E"

if your inlet flap motor has NO prefix letter on the end then you MUST replace with a NO PREFIX part!

so to put it simple: if the part number is "06F 133 482" then you must replace with "06F 133 482"

if the motors part number is: "06F 133 482 B" then you can happily go ahead with the latest revision "E"

hope this helps :)

Thanks  mate.

I am going to check later on what is stamped onto it but i feel it will be 06F 133 482.

IF you need one with an E, i got one delivered to day that looks in really good condition - no idea if it works tho - if you need it.
Oh ok cool, nice one Liam, I’ll give you a shout should I need that. Top man!

Let us know how you get on with diagnosing your issue. I have seen online that people have replaced the motor and it hasn’t solved the problem and it’s been down to carbon build up. So you might (like me) need to be prepared to remove manifold and give everything a thorough clean.


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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2019, 05:35:12 PM »
Hi also have the same/similar problem although slight difference in the number P3137 instead of P3138
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2 Faults Found:
012599 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
               P3137 - 001 - Basic Setting not Completed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 170954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 63.0°C
                    Temperature: 48.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.938 V
001602 - Sensor Reference Voltage A: Circuit
               P0642 - 002 - Low - Intermittent - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 170954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 63.0°C
                    Temperature: 48.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.938 V
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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2019, 06:28:16 PM »
Hi also have the same/similar problem although slight difference in the number P3137 instead of P3138
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2 Faults Found:
012599 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
               P3137 - 001 - Basic Setting not Completed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 170954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 63.0°C
                    Temperature: 48.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.938 V
001602 - Sensor Reference Voltage A: Circuit
               P0642 - 002 - Low - Intermittent - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 170954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 63.0°C
                    Temperature: 48.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.938 V
Try doing the basic setting with VCDS and see how you get on.


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Re: Intake Manifold Flap
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2019, 06:52:03 PM »
Cheers mate, I’ve reset it a few times but the problem still returns. If I’m honest I’m looking at selling the Edition 30 this year and moving into a MK7 R
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