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Title: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 12:01:42 pm
Hey all..

Just thought I would get myself on this new forum and start my build thread on here..

Some of you may recognise my previous car, VF Engineering RSS S3, sold only last week, only reason being that I had finished the project, and wanted to move on to something new! :)

Heres a couple of pics of the previous project.. Ended up with 417Bhp 385Ft/Lbs  :happy2:

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So I used to have a MK5 GTI, one of the first cars really, lots of things were done to the car and I eventually sold it to Regal Autosport, they are now using it as there demo shop car! Running same turbo kit as the S3 had, goes like stink, really nice car!!

My Old GTI..

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So now you have a bit of background ill introduce you to the new project!!  :smiley:

Fully Specced MK5 GTI Ed30 in Candy White (couldn't bring myself to choose any other colour) standard as you like!!

The car has DSG, bit of a strange decision really, but after driving lots of DSG cars I have to say I have came to quite enjoy it, and with some trick bits in the pipeline, im glad I made the call! Plus it definitely makes the car faster, not just the speed of the gear change, I can change as quick in a manual, but its the way that its changes to seamlessly, the engine doesn't ever need to recover boost between changes, which makes a huge difference on these cars!!

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Got an intake being made for the car, something pretty special, should not only perform really well but look fantastic at the same time, pretty excited about it actually!!

Exhaust will be on soon, going for a Milltek 3" downpipe with no cats, and a custom 3" cat back exhaust..

I picked up wheels for the car yesterday, need a little bit of work but they are going to look really nice, doing something a little different here, should look fantastic!!

Ermm, going to have the car mapped ASAP, this car feels very very slow after the S3, as you would expect! But its good fun to drive, just as I remembered my last GTI

The grille was taken off immediately to have the red grille strip painted in body colour, just looks pretty custom, sacrilege to any true GTI fan im sure  Also having the plate holder removed and the grille smoothed over and re-painted black

Coilovers have been ordered, I really wanted a coilover which would allow me to drop the car a fair bit, that narrowed it down to two different sets really, the H&R ultralow's (which I think are exactly the same coilovers that H&R fit to the S3) and the FK Konigsports

Obviously the H&R brand speaks for itself, good quality, but no damper adjustment and a pretty heavy price (£950) considering that they are basically a KW V1 coilover with short springs (KW retail the V1 kit at £650)

I was a little unsure of the FK's, I have done a lot of research and found out that the shock bodies are made by Koni, full stainless steel etc with adjustable rebound, and the springs are produced by FK themselves, and the price is £670, really just adjustability decided it for me so I went for the FK's, they should be on the car within the week hopefully

The last couple of things.. I removed the radio controlled car look radio antenna and replaced it for a black anodized aluminum version, much smaller, looks far better!! And fully de-badged the rear of the car..

(quite small) Private plates are going on tomorrow all being well  :happy2:

Thats pretty much it for now, not bad after owning the car for less than 48 hours

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: madman on November 30, 2008, 12:08:37 pm
get in there fella :happy2: keep the updates coming :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 12:17:48 pm
Will do, should have another big update on Friday, wheels, suspension, intake all going on then  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 182_blue on November 30, 2008, 12:45:34 pm
welcome to the forum, cars look good  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRStu on November 30, 2008, 12:55:11 pm
Jeez Jonny your numbers must have come up or I'm in the wrong job!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on November 30, 2008, 03:54:12 pm
Looking forward to updates Jonny, no doubt we won't have to wait long before we see some serious mods.

Nice meeting you on Saturday.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 04:00:54 pm
Cheers mate, yeah cant wait to get the car sorted out..

As I said lots of bits going on friday but I should have the Re-map, fuel pump, TB exhaust and intercooler done before christmas too.. Once im at that stage ill relax for a little while and then work on saving for serious performance mods..

LSD, Big turbo kit, Brakes, full engine/gearbox mount kit and probably some more bits too hopefully, looking forward to seeing some serious development on the 2.0T FSI engine in the next 6 months  :smiley:

Cant wait anyways, this is going to be the best project yet  :happy2:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRStu on November 30, 2008, 04:05:33 pm
You gonna be trying the new DSG Remap Jonny?

I'm surprised you moved away from the quattro especially with the quest for big power.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 04:18:42 pm
You gonna be trying the new DSG Remap Jonny?

I'm surprised you moved away from the quattro especially with the quest for big power.

Yeah very interested by that actually, love the idea of being able to hold gears, rev higher etc etc.. So basically when its in manual you have full control! Also the clutch pack upgrade, depending on what power in looking for, torque will be limited anyways with tuning, pointless with FWD really!!

I would like 450BHP with around 350ft/lbs, you would be very surprised, a well set up FWD car with high quality plate type LSD and sticky tyres can cope with that power no trouble at all, its the torque and sudden boost that will break traction, so its all in the tuning really  :smiley:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on November 30, 2008, 05:44:11 pm
What wheels were fitted to the S3??? They are very nice!!

Great collection of cars, great plans.

Im looking forward to this!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 05:48:11 pm
What wheels were fitted to the S3??? They are very nice!!

Great collection of cars, great plans.

Im looking forward to this!!

They were Speedline Turini's 18x8 ET42.. I had them powdercoated satin black, looked great, and very light too!!

Thanks, looking forward to friday!!! arrghh.. lol
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on November 30, 2008, 07:59:03 pm
Howdee Jonny,

Welcome back to Golf ownership,

So come on them what wheels you going for?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 10:06:50 pm
You will find out Friday :wink:

They are very very nice though.. I hope they fit!!! (thats a clue by the way) lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CocoPops on November 30, 2008, 10:13:05 pm
You had the grill smoothed and painted? How much was that? I paid £77 (inc delivery) for a whole new grill without plinth holes.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 10:17:40 pm
Not had it done yet, I have painted the grill strip painted white, not got the grill smoothed and painted yet, I was looking at the new grill option too, I have a friend at VW UK so ill see if he can sort me out with one, seems a better option than spending money on the original as I can always sell that on..

By the way the wheels are BBS and 18" but thats all im giving away  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: madman on November 30, 2008, 10:19:33 pm
You will find out Friday :wink:

They are very very nice though.. I hope they fit!!! (thats a clue by the way) lol..
 I have found out what alloys you are gettin jonny(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fqq165%2Fmadmangti_photo%2Fbigwheels.jpg&hash=89993db8086b763595c66f18465edd4ebae0977f)  think you might have a prob with the fit thou mate :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 10:28:52 pm
Na they will fit im just struggling to find the 10x300 to 5x112 adapters :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on November 30, 2008, 10:42:22 pm
Hmm 2 piece?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 10:44:16 pm
Hmm 2 piece?

Maybe.. :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on November 30, 2008, 10:50:08 pm
 :P

Ok then so 2 piece and 18'' BBS, got to be wide or low offset if your not sure on the fitting hmm  :confused: 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 10:59:11 pm
Put it this way, it would be like running the standard wheel with a 30mm spacer.. haha..

Just hope it works ok, going to look amazing if they do, which im 75% confident about..

Bit late now really as I have already bought them and having tyres fitted tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on November 30, 2008, 11:07:47 pm
I can see it now ..........













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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2008, 11:10:50 pm
Something like that haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: neg on December 01, 2008, 12:52:34 am
WOW - to, well all of it!  Look forward to seeing what you get done.

Will that be a spare K04 knocking about  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on December 01, 2008, 07:45:02 am
Jonny hope this helps with your confidence:

BBS CH 8.5x18, 5x112, ET35

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32966047@N08/3070556717
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Nobber on December 01, 2008, 08:37:50 am
Read every page of your S3 build thread on Audi-sport.net, by far one of the nicest S3's around so props on that one Jonny.

Can't wait to see what you do with the MK5!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on December 01, 2008, 10:16:49 am


                Here's Johnny

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi294.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm104%2Ftomashandmilly%2F060608_shining_vmed_1pwidec.jpg&hash=64b6a0c3aa851f042554d24cc830d4dc405268f9) Welcome to the forum Johnny.

I love crazy people and you my friend definitely are  :laugh: in the sense of modding cars that is.
I loved both your last 2 and i am sure this will be no different. the S3 was stunning and i often took a blimp at your GTI on page 6 of members rides GolfGTIforum. co.uk.

It will be really interesting to see if you can get all that power down through the DSG never mind the front wheel drive.  :rolleye: Cant wait.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2008, 10:56:32 am
Jonny hope this helps with your confidence:

BBS CH 8.5x18, 5x112, ET35

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32966047@N08/3070556717


Matt thats awesome, think I should be fine after looking at them!! They look like they are running 225/40's?? Ill be running 215's too so thats another 5mm clearance at the arch..

Also ordered a set of KW camber adjustable top mounts for the front struts, will be able to get some negative on the front which will really help with handling, the MK5 is screaming out for more negative camber on the front, will also help with clearance too so pleased about that!!

Read every page of your S3 build thread on Audi-sport.net, by far one of the nicest S3's around so props on that one Jonny.

Can't wait to see what you do with the MK5!!

Thanks mate, yeah the S3 did look great, no reason to sell apart from I wanted to start again with something new.. Its already going pretty well..  :smiley:

Welcome to the forum Johnny.

I love crazy people and you my friend definitely are  :laugh: in the sense of modding cars that is.
I loved both your last 2 and i am sure this will be no different. the S3 was stunning and i often took a blimp at your GTI on page 6 of members rides GolfGTIforum. co.uk.

It will be really interesting to see if you can get all that power down through the DSG never mind the front wheel drive.  :rolleye: Cant wait.


Yeah its going to be a challenge, but DSG re-map, Clutch packs and DSG LSD will sort all of that out  :happy2:

This one is going to look a little different to the last GTI, as much as it can being the same colour anyways!!

Little update..

Intake is on and looks great, went out for a drive this morning and its working really well.. Lots more urgency when it comes on boost and pulls a lot harder at the top end of the rev range!

Got a few more bits to sort out on it, going to change the silicone coupler for a silicone bellow.. As the intake is hard mounted to the chassis and at the other end the turbo with the engines movement there is a chance it could work its self loose.. That should address the potential issue, also when the VF engine mounts are fitted there is pretty much no engine movement so there will be nothing to worry about then!

Got to polish the MAF heat shield and fit that, and working on a filter heat shield with an integrated cold air feed pulling air from my freshly installed open fog grilles  :laugh:

All coming along nicely!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on December 01, 2008, 11:02:26 am
Good stuff have you considered the white line anti-lift kit to help with traction, every litlle helps as they say and its pretty cheap.

       http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=395.0
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2008, 11:10:19 am
Good stuff have you considered the white line anti-lift kit to help with traction, every litlle helps as they say and its pretty cheap.

       http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=395.0

Having the S3 items fitted to the car at the same time as the coils go on (friday) They are very similar, probably not as stiff as the whiteline versions as the S3 part is still rubber and not poly like the other kit..

The thing with poly bushing suspension is that really its best to do it all at the same time as stiffening up bush will mean that 'more' load is applied onto the next weakest bush so you end up chasing your tail until the whole car has been done.. My car is a road car so im not that bothered about bushes, ARB's etc.. I wont take it on a circuit etc and probably wont have it that long, parts like that are very difficult to get any money back on when you sell the car..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on December 01, 2008, 02:59:31 pm
Jonny, i have a brand new s3 intercooler inc boost pipes if you want it for your car.
Pm me if you want it mate :smiley:
Cant wait to see what your going to do with the mk5. S3 was awesome 8)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 01, 2008, 03:24:17 pm
 My car is a road car so im not that bothered about bushes, ARB's etc.. I wont take it on a circuit etc and probably wont have it that long,

Jonny
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love that bit   :rolleye: you must be mad but  :happy2: from me
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2008, 03:38:49 pm
My car is a road car so im not that bothered about bushes, ARB's etc.. I wont take it on a circuit etc and probably wont have it that long,

Jonny

love that bit   :rolleye: you must be mad but  :happy2: from me
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What? The I wont have it that long bit?? lol.. Its true..

I have had 7 cars in 18 months now.. arrgh!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 01, 2008, 03:50:38 pm
My car is a road car so im not that bothered about bushes, ARB's etc.. I wont take it on a circuit etc and probably wont have it that long,

Jonny

love that bit   :rolleye: you must be mad but  :happy2: from me

What? The I wont have it that long bit?? lol.. Its true..

I have had 7 cars in 18 months now.. arrgh!!
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yes that bit  :smiley: i had stage like that  :rolleye: was having cars for 3 months at a time or even less   :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2008, 04:44:09 pm
Just bought a full set of VF Engineering Engine/Gearbox mounts for the car..

Had these on the last GTI and the S3 too, really tighten up the whole drivetrain and transform the whole way the car feels to drive really, fairly expensive for something that doesn't really make the car any faster but well worth it!!

Also getting fitted on Friday (mod day) lol..

Bought a set of 8000k HID D2S bulbs too.. im a bit dubious about these if im honest, as much as the reviews of these specific bulbs seem to be very good.. Anyways I got a good deal on them, so ill fit them and see what I think, have a feeling I may take them back out but we'll see..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: neg on December 01, 2008, 06:09:58 pm
You might find 8000k a little too blue, I have had a 6000k before and I wouldn't want to go any further, have a 4300k kit on the 25th Anni which are spot on.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on December 01, 2008, 10:16:14 pm
I am baffled S3 to Ed30 why ? I have read your other threads and i thought this looks good but was disappointed when i seen an Ed30 lol!  Granted you have chosen your mods well. 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2008, 11:00:20 pm
Just fancied a change, had finished the S3 and had a soft spot for the MK5.. nothing more to it than that really  :happy2:

Just wait until the MK5 is finished  :wink:


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 02, 2008, 07:56:02 am
....

Are you going for a Quaife or Peloquin ATB diff?

[I can't understand why, after modifying a car so much, you don't keep her longer. But ETTO.]
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 02, 2008, 10:37:42 am
You probably never will, along with most people lol..

Quaife, I know the owner well so I can get very good deals on the parts.. Peloquin is a american copy of the ATB system anyways as far as I can tell..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on December 02, 2008, 11:04:16 am
I don't really think its for us to comment on the reasons for selling the S3.   :laugh:


I'm looking forward to seeing this ED30 though.


Oh I assume if you sold your previous mk5 to Regal, it will have been the one I saw at UDs this year? (very nice)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 02, 2008, 11:06:34 am
I don't really think its for us to comment on the reasons for selling the S3.   :laugh:


I'm looking forward to seeing this ED30 though.


Oh I assume if you sold your previous mk5 to Regal, it will have been the one I saw at UDs this year? (very nice)

Yeah my old MK5 went to Regal, its now running the same turbo kit as the S3 had, but with built internals.. Really nice sorted car!

I have really a really good feeling about this ED30, think its going to be the best car yet.. Already looking at big turbo lol.. Arrgh!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on December 02, 2008, 12:06:16 pm
Looking forward to seeing the progress of your car Jonny.  :happy2: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Greeners on December 02, 2008, 12:16:14 pm
Any more pics Jonny? Wheels maybe?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 02, 2008, 02:17:21 pm
Going to be able to get pics up of the completed intake system and new HID bulbs later on..

And wheels / suspension on friday  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on December 02, 2008, 08:16:02 pm
I don't really think its for us to comment on the reasons for selling the S3.   :laugh:


I'm looking forward to seeing this ED30 though.


Oh I assume if you sold your previous mk5 to Regal, it will have been the one I saw at UDs this year? (very nice)

I was curious as he has taken a different approach while most are striving to move up the ladder Jonnyc pics a car that takes his fancy and goes for it, looking fwd to seeing how it pans out. I am sure it was your car that was GIAC'd and had a Dbilas originally that made me choose those mods for my car.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 02, 2008, 08:19:53 pm
Thats pretty much it really mate, not thought of it like that before really but think you have hit the nail on the head..

I buy a car with a vision, so really the standard car is just the base that im going to work from..

I could easily have a much more expensive car, when you take in to account how much im going to spend, and spent on the S3 for example, but I would have to keep it standard, and that would kill me from the inside!! haha..

Anyways yep its going to be mega!

Didnt get a chance to take pics today, too cold and snowing/raining all day here..

Hopefully get some tomorrow now  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on December 04, 2008, 01:16:26 pm
Its been quiet here for 2 days, im guessing Jonny has it all finished now  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 04, 2008, 01:31:46 pm
No not quite haha..

Hopefully Ill get some pics of the car tomorrow : )


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 07, 2008, 12:13:02 pm
Waits in anticipation... :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: bacillus on December 07, 2008, 01:35:52 pm
Waits in anticipation... :drool:
lol, tomorrow never comes...   :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: hawtin1584 on December 07, 2008, 05:20:44 pm
Jonny, i have a brand new s3 intercooler inc boost pipes if you want it for your car.
Pm me if you want it mate :smiley:
Cant wait to see what your going to do with the mk5. S3 was awesome 8)
  Hi i am looking for an s3 intercooler for my seat leon fr, how much you looking for it? Thanks
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 07, 2008, 05:27:57 pm
Jonny, i have a brand new s3 intercooler inc boost pipes if you want it for your car.
Pm me if you want it mate :smiley:
Cant wait to see what your going to do with the mk5. S3 was awesome 8)
  Hi i am looking for an s3 intercooler for my seat leon fr, how much you looking for it? Thanks

if he has not sold it i can get them  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on December 07, 2008, 06:13:36 pm
I paid £276 so you can have it for the same price mate.
Im not looking to make any money on it. If it doesnt sell, ill probably put it on the car in summer.
Pm me if your interested
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 07, 2008, 08:22:26 pm
Sorry for the late update on the car.. Here you go!  :happy2:

Quick Update..

Got 'most' of the work done on Friday.. Fitting some of the parts that I have been waiting for etc..

Also completed the intake system, really pleased with it, sounds great, performs great and looks great (in my opinion).. Sorry for the camera work  ;)

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So today I had the VF engine/gearbox mounts, I had these on my previous MK5 and S3, a must, even on a standard car!! Also a set of Whiteline lower arm mounts with poly bushes, these also add 0.5 degrees caster which is nice..

Pic of one of the three VF mounts..

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The lower arm bushes look like this..

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And replace the standard unit (bottom in this picture, S3 units are a more solid rubber design compared to the GTI bushes)

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The suspension didn't turn up, so ill be having that installed next week along with the KW top mounts.. Then its time for some more powerrrrrrrrrr!!!

The addition of the VF mounts and the lower arm bushes have already transformed the car!! Absolutely fantastic throttle response, no wheel tramp and great positive steering feel..

Heres a picture of the car (very dirty) with the new wheels.. Ignore the huge gap between the arches, that will all be long gone next week!!































































Yes, Turini's again  :lol: :lol: :lol:   

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Just love these wheels, Speedline only had silver in stock, so I didn't have a lot of choice on that front, but im really happy with the silver, may have the colour changed at some point but for now I think ill stick with the standard colour :)

The car already feels noticeably different with these fitted, little bit lighter, more urgent etc.. Very pleased with them :)

You can also see the 8000k xenons that I have installed, like I said, I was unsure about these, thinking that they could be of poor quality etc, low light output, too blue etc etc etc.. But they are fantastic!! The colour that you see here is pretty much how they look, imagine when you just turn your lights on, you have that lovely white/blue light, these stay like that when warm rather than changing into a more halogen look yellow..

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So thats it up to now.. Back in the garage on Tuesday to have the coilovers and top mounts fitted and the whole car set up..

Ill post an update then!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on December 07, 2008, 09:12:28 pm
Looking good jonny. I like the speedlines, very good wheel. :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on December 07, 2008, 09:15:26 pm
Are the Whiteline things you mention above, the same things as the Whiteline anti lift kit?? Or am I being silly!?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 07, 2008, 09:21:51 pm
Yeah its the anti-lift kit, thats a marketing thing though really..In reality is an up rated poly bushed front wishbone mount..

Yeah pleased with the wheels, as I said I cant wait to get it lowered now!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on December 07, 2008, 09:23:38 pm
Yeah its the anti-lift kit, thats a marketing thing though really..In reality is an up rated poly bushed front wishbone mount..

Yeah pleased with the wheels, as I said I cant wait to get it lowered now!!  :happy2:

Cheers Jonny!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 07, 2008, 09:42:04 pm
No worries mate..

After driving the car a little more you really do notice the parts that have been installed up to now.. Engine mounts fantastic as usual but a big improvement in the steering feel from the anti-lift kit..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on December 07, 2008, 09:45:28 pm
No worries mate..

After driving the car a little more you really do notice the parts that have been installed up to now.. Engine mounts fantastic as usual but a big improvement in the steering feel from the anti-lift kit..

Jonny

Hmm yeah so many people rave about it! I think I need to get me one of those!!!!  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: neg on December 07, 2008, 09:47:10 pm
Ah, I didnt realise you had OEM Xenon units and were swapping the bulbs - I thought you were talking about a HID upgrade kit before.  I looked into this a while ago actually.  Be intersted to know where you got them and how much...  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on December 07, 2008, 09:55:03 pm
sweet mods  :happy2:

How do you find the VF mounts?,
 Im very tempted but always put off because I think the car is harsh enough as it is, let alone with new mounts.
Does it stop engine movement completely?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 07, 2008, 10:19:58 pm
Yeah it was just the bulbs that I up rated.. Wouldn't buy a car without OEM xenons..

Got the bulbs off a guy from Edition38 forums, they were brand new 8000k D2 bulbs from HIDS4U.CO.UK.. They are a load cheaper than the PIAA D2S bulbs that I was going to order, but I thought I would give these a go, only loosing a few quid if there sh*t, plus I would know how to change them once I get the PIAA bulbs..

I have been very impressed with them up to now and Ill be keeping them unless they decide to stop working  :happy2:

Heres the link..

http://www.hids4u.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=143&cat=23&page=1
sweet mods  :happy2:

How do you find the VF mounts?,
 Im very tempted but always put off because I think the car is harsh enough as it is, let alone with new mounts.
Does it stop engine movement completely?


VF mounts are fantastic IMO, not for everyone for sure because of the increased vibrations and noise..

There is still engine movement, its a poly bush rather than the OEM mounts which use soft rubber..

You may be interested in this..

http://www.s3-talk.com/index.php?showtopic=394
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: neg on December 08, 2008, 09:07:23 am
So then then next question... are they as hard as I've heard to fit them?

Wondering if 6000k would be enough, I heard ther higher the k the worse they can be in rain/fog
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 08, 2008, 09:11:33 am
the higher the K, after about 4300k the dimmer it gets.

4300k is your best bet
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on December 08, 2008, 01:29:33 pm
Looking good Jonny. Will look miles better with the coilovers  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 08, 2008, 04:06:24 pm
Yeah its the anti-lift kit, thats a marketing thing though really..In reality is an up rated poly bushed front wishbone mount..

....What's your opinion about also changing the poly bushes on the other side of the wishbone, please?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 08, 2008, 04:17:02 pm
Suppose it would help.. But where do you stop?? You could end up chasing it all around the car..

The main reason I did it was to stop the wheel hop that the GTI suffers with so badly, did the full Vf mount kit and the lower arms and its 90% gone.. Im looking into an engine torque damper too, that would completely remove the problem, but you get a load of vibration from them, not that it bothers me though..

Suspension tomorrow all being well, hopefully its been delivered finally!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 08, 2008, 04:37:42 pm
Suppose it would help.. But where do you stop?? You could end up chasing it all around the car..

....Indeed :smiley: - I've driven a couple of GTI's with a full set of poly bushes fitted throughout (and engine mounts).

The main reason I did it was to stop the wheel hop that the GTI suffers with so badly, did the full Vf mount kit and the lower arms and its 90% gone..

....VW Racing offer a set of engine mounts for 'fast road' for about £460 ex vat and installation.

:happy2:
 
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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 08, 2008, 06:07:58 pm
Yeah VWR use the Vibratechnics mounts.. I have the VF mounts in my car, there mega!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 08, 2008, 08:31:40 pm
Coming on nicely mate..  :happy2: But have to say the Turini's will look even better black IMO just like your old ones.. But i'm just not a massive fan of silver on white..
When is it getting the extra power? What software you going with, GIAC again?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 08, 2008, 08:36:18 pm
Yeah I agree I do love the Turini's in black, but I want to try and stick with the silver, just so its a little different to the last few cars I have had lol..

Not 100% decided on the software at the minute, considering both GIAC and Revo really..

Hopefully have the engine running in its final spec (for now) before the end of Jan.. Ill wait until I get bored with that and then decide on a Phase two  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: dubsport on December 15, 2008, 11:44:47 pm
Absolulty perfect motor mate, this is the way such a car should be modified  :happy2:

Very interested in following the progress on this as i would love to do something similar

Loved your S3 too by the way   :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on December 16, 2008, 01:27:06 pm


 All I can say is WOW...  very interested in how it goes.  I'll be getting an LSD and uprated clutch pack next year along with brakes and some CF body panels... thats all I need to finish my car off.  Thinking about Revo Stage 2+, but worried about the internals of the car.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on December 16, 2008, 01:32:54 pm
Oh - also thinking of getting uprated engine mounts... after reading about them on R32OC and here.  This modding thing never ends does it?  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2008, 01:36:07 pm
Lol.. The way that im tuning the car is the way I think that it should be done.. I could spend a fraction of the money making it fast in a straight line but for me thats pretty pointless..

I want to have the whole package, much like my S3 and previous MK5..

Anyways Ill be getting some pics up of the car with the coilovers fitted, and fully set-up today.. Just need to go and give it a quick wash as its a fairly horrible shade of brown at the moment!!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 16, 2008, 03:13:45 pm
Oh - also thinking of getting uprated engine mounts... after reading about them on R32OC and here.  This modding thing never ends does it?  :ashamed:

....No - This modding thing never ends!!

....Yes - I'm thinking of engine mounts by VW Racing as next mod after they've done my suspension in early January.

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2008, 05:39:01 pm
Ok here we go..

Had a fair bit done since the last time I had pics up etc..

Suspension fitted, along with KW camber adjustable pillow ball top mounts, full set up and a set of Lamin-x fog light covers..

Suspension feels really good, not played around with the damping just yet, got them set mid way front and rear at the moment and they are a touch softer than the H&R coils that I had on the S3, but these will go a fair bit stiffer on rebound..

KW top mounts are very trick, wish I had taken some pictures of them, they are a work of art really!! Reason for buying them was to get some negative camber on the front end, otherwise not possible without either machining the hub or fitting longer bottom arms, both of which are fairly non adjustable lol..

Went for the Lamin-X fog covers just for something a little different, I really like these actually, not that I EVER use my fogs, pet hate when people drive about with them on.. But think that they add something to the look of the car!

Anyways still really enjoying the car, feels mega with a nice set up on it, the MK5 is super safe (ala S3) from the factory but it now feels alive!!

I think you'll agree that the car looks a fair bit nicer this low! At the moment I could drop another 30mm at the rear, and if I was to remove the helper springs from the front, another 50mm up front!! Not going to happen, as the drive shafts would foul the chassis, but nice to know that If I want to go lower I can :)

Really pleased that I haven't changed the colour of the wheels yet, they look stunning on the white car actually, this time the wheels are a much more brilliant silver, really nice finish!!

So heres some pics..

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Let me know what you think!!

Thanks

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: dubsport on December 16, 2008, 05:59:01 pm
Brilliant mate, looks to be sitting at a good height all round

The yellow lamin-x is different but i personally think it looks good against the white, keep it up  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gazbutS3 on December 16, 2008, 05:59:34 pm
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 16, 2008, 07:02:07 pm
Looks like a different car now mate, strangely enough.. But gets a  :happy2: from me as well.. The rims do look very nice actually, especially now it's sat lower. Would still love to see what a CW Ed30 would look like with a set of black Turinis on, especially after you offered me your old ones before and I was really tempted..  :ashamed:
So what's the next step?

P.S. Was chatting to Kev Hall about you last fri actually and he showed me your site.. Looks like you've got a real bummer of a job there mate...  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Steve Baker on December 16, 2008, 07:13:15 pm
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2008, 07:13:48 pm
Lol, yeah thinking about having them black but really I have done it on my last couple of cars and I want to try something a little different with this set.. Put it this way, they wont be standard colour for long ha..

Thanks mate.. Yeah its pretty mega, very lucky!

Exterior still has a fair few more bits to be done..

Still not 100% happy with the front ride height, need to take out the helper springs to go any lower though, I want it dropped another 10mm at the front..

Going to have the front grille done in matt black, remove the front plate etc and have the rear bumper diffuser section matt black too. Also have some front tints done, really subtle, to blend them to the factory tinted rears.. Thats pretty much it for the exterior.. A few tiny details here and there but nothing major for now..

Then I need to do the brakes, as they are f*cking hopeless..

And thennnnn! Its time for a load more power..  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on December 16, 2008, 07:16:05 pm
are your coilovers the clubsport KW's and what are helper springs.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Steve Baker on December 16, 2008, 07:19:10 pm
Lol, yeah thinking about having them black but really I have done it on my last couple of cars and I want to try something a little different with this set.. Put it this way, they wont be standard colour for long ha..

Thanks mate.. Yeah its pretty mega, very lucky!

Exterior still has a fair few more bits to be done..

Still not 100% happy with the front ride height, need to take out the helper springs to go any lower though, I want it dropped another 10mm at the front..

Going to have the front grille done in matt black, remove the front plate etc and have the rear bumper diffuser section matt black too. Also have some front tints done, really subtle, to blend them to the factory tinted rears.. Thats pretty much it for the exterior.. A few tiny details here and there but nothing major for now..

Then I need to do the brakes, as they are f*cking hopeless..

And thennnnn! Its time for a load more power..  :laugh:

Any lower and your front splitter is gonna get dog eared ??  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2008, 07:23:58 pm
are your coilovers the clubsport KW's and what are helper springs.  :smiley:

They are the FK Konigsport Silverline coilovers.. They use stainless Koni dampers, so the quality is really good..

Helper springs are a low rate spring which will take up the initial movement in the main spring, used in motorsport aplications mainly when the main spring can move on the spring seat if the damper goes into full droop whilst driving.. (taking off) or on road dampers when your running a constant rate spring (can be fairly uncomfortable)

These have a super soft helper which are fully compressed once the car is on the ground, and these dampers they use a progressive rate main spring anyways so the helper is pretty pointless on this application..

Hence the reason I dont mind taking them out :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2008, 07:24:42 pm
Any lower and your front splitter is gonna get dog eared ??  :scared:

Na it will be fineee! :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on December 16, 2008, 07:27:24 pm
WOW , the drop just makes the car and wheels come together  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: neg on December 16, 2008, 08:34:40 pm
liking the white lip on the white car.  Looks so much better now its sitting lower to mother earth  :happy2:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on December 16, 2008, 08:43:05 pm
 :drool: dont know what to say other than im very much in love with this dub
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MongyUk on December 16, 2008, 08:57:15 pm
I like it Jonny  :happy2: Agree the front needs to go down a bit more, I think it will be well worth it. I have 50% tints all around and these look really light, it does make a difference though. Keep it up  :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2008, 08:59:07 pm
I like it Jonny  :happy2: Agree the front needs to go down a bit more, I think it will be well worth it. I have 50% tints all around and these look really light, it does make a difference though. Keep it up  :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:

Yeah stance isn't quite right at the moment, want to even up the wheel to arch gap front to rear, and it should look a lot better..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 16, 2008, 09:46:37 pm
....

Very smart.

Personally I like the silver wheels and really don't like black wheels without a contrasting rim. But ETTO.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on December 17, 2008, 12:23:59 am
:drool: dont know what to say other than im very much in love with this dub

God I hate this site!  :grin: :grin:   :drool: :drool: :drool: Its making me want to go out and spend ALL the money I have left...  :party:  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: even golfgti.co.uk wasn't this bad  :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on December 17, 2008, 12:25:26 am
Your car is looking superb mate... I think we're all modding in slow motion compared to you.  Can't wait to get more info on the dsg mods.  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 17, 2008, 12:28:26 am
Lol.. The car is about 30% there now.. Still a long way to go :)

The aim is to have it pretty much complete within the next 4 months..

Should hopefully know some more soon on the DSG stuff :)

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on December 17, 2008, 07:06:53 am
Absolutely perfect..!

I've been looking at those coilovers myself, they do sound good from all the stuff i've been reading!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 17, 2008, 10:05:12 am
wow...it looks great. i love the white lip!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on December 17, 2008, 11:33:08 am
Looks good Jonny  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 17, 2008, 02:30:01 pm
ive just phoned the paint shop, i should have a white lip by friday! along with an r32 rear spoiler! lol
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 17, 2008, 03:49:09 pm

Should hopefully know some more soon on the DSG stuff :)

Jonny

Me too...  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on December 17, 2008, 04:09:34 pm
looks fantastic love the wheels
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 17, 2008, 08:47:13 pm
wow...it looks great. i love the white lip!
do you mean the the stripe that should be red ???????????/
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 18, 2008, 02:14:56 pm
yep mate, that is what i was referring to
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 18, 2008, 02:50:24 pm
yep...robin, i know exactly where your coming from, but its almost compulsory for us Gt sport guys!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 18, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
^^^^

Sure - Each To Their Own and you don't want a GT Sport pretending to be a GTI.

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2008, 10:25:01 pm
You may as well totally debadge your car while you are at it!

I have..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2008, 10:44:31 pm
I know what your saying, and I agree in theory.. But the MK5 is hardly a classic, maybes on a MK1 GTI..

Anyways like all these things its personal preference, I like the White stripe in the same way others like fitting every tarty add on part available under the sun.. Whatever makes you happy isn't it? :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: SteveP on December 19, 2008, 08:48:33 am
I know what your saying, and I agree in theory.. But the MK5 is hardly a classic, maybes on a MK1 GTI..

Anyways like all these things its personal preference, I like the White stripe in the same way others like fitting every tarty add on part available under the sun.. Whatever makes you happy isn't it? :happy2:

^^^ That's the way I like to look at things  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 19, 2008, 09:37:47 am
yep....i agreee its a must for those who fit a GTI grill on a non GTI. such as i have. i dont want to be pretending do i?

i was very very fussy about this kind of thing with the GTI anniversary. which i still have! lol

i am ALLL about the GTI heritage! :0
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 19, 2008, 09:48:24 am
i was going to say that.

the mk5 is an iconic car, even just from what it has come from and its stems in history with the mk1.

i would say its one of the most important, it certainly brought back the excitement of the GTi. The mk4 2.0 GTi did NOT help the GTI brand at all, and the mk5 has most certainly put it firmly back in place! ;)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 19, 2008, 06:18:38 pm
Thats cool..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on December 20, 2008, 02:37:13 pm
WOW Jonny! I have been away for a week and the transformation in such a short time is awesome! Loving the drop, the wheels, the white stripe on the grill, the yellow fogs! I could go on and on! Really looking forward to seeing it in four months time  :happy2: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 20, 2008, 02:49:53 pm
WOW Jonny! I have been away for a week and the transformation in such a short time is awesome! Loving the drop, the wheels, the white stripe on the grill, the yellow fogs! I could go on and on! Really looking forward to seeing it in four months time  :happy2: :jumpmove:

Cheers mate..

Really want to get a few more bits done to finish off the exterior before christmas but not sure if im going to have time.. Think ill just wait until the new year and get it all done then :smiley: Really looking forward to seeing the changes I have in mind on the car  :laugh:

Anyways another quick update on the progress for ya..

I Dropped in at Revo on Wednesday to have the car mapped, thanks to Kev and Carl and big thanks to Mark!!

Obviously it has transformed the car, its running the Stage 2 map at the moment, which will allow me to have the exhaust built and fitted without worrying about a CEL on the dash.. Super smooth, progressive delivery etc etc.. Very pleased

Considering it only has the map and intake the car is extremely strong, coupled with the DSG there is zero lag between gears, feels very much like a sequential change now!! Cant wait to have the exhaust, fuel pump and intercooler done and then I can go back and upgrade to Stage 2+!! Its going to fly!!

Also removed all of the rear interior from the car, boot contents etc.. Lots of weight saved (around 50+KG) and I can certainly feel it!!

Love this car more and more each time I do something to it haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 20, 2008, 03:35:07 pm
....

Is a roll-cage on your list? - In other words, having stripped out the back, do you intend to track it regularly?

:xmassmiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 20, 2008, 03:50:41 pm
so you are running stage 2 on a stock exhaust ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 20, 2008, 04:03:10 pm
so you are running stage 2 on a stock exhaust ?

....In Jonny's case obviously not for long!

Milltek told me it's not a good idea in the long term.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 20, 2008, 04:10:21 pm
....

Is a roll-cage on your list? - In other words, having stripped out the back, do you intend to track it regularly?

:xmassmiley:

Nope, they are quite heavy  :grin:

Removing the rear interior parts purely for performance, dont have anyone in the rear of the car so its no inconvenience to me.. Having a carpet made to cover the shell, so it looks like this.. (less the scaffolding)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2F2770569768_cac1dd9cde_o.jpg&hash=f8db74dc2f44961c5a091f010c26fd775869545c)

Weight saving and lightening this car is going to be a big part of the concept, my target is to remove 150KG from the car, which will make a huge difference in terms of performance..

These are the parts that are going to save the weight, some of which I have already done  :happy2:

WHEELS & TYRES
REAR SEATS
BOOT CONTENTS + REAR MATS   
SUSPENSION
INTAKE
FRONT SEATS
BRAKES
BATTERY
EXHAUST
CARBON FRONT WINGS
CARBON BONNET
REMOVE BONNET INSULATION
SINGLE FRONT WIPER KIT
REAR WIPER DELETE   
POLY CARBONATE REAR WINDOWS
POSSIBLY REMOVE THE AIRCON SYSTEM, PUMP, RAD, HOSES ETC ETC

Im going for a Club-Sport type of spec, dont want to strip the car out and have it a bare shell inside, need to keep a certain level of comfort, and I want it to look like it could have came like this from the factory, R26R style..

so you are running stage 2 on a stock exhaust ?

Having an exhaust made very soon, reason I went for the Stage 2 right away was so that I could have the exhaust made and fitted to my car without having a CEL up on the dash.. should be on straight after new year  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 20, 2008, 04:19:31 pm
^^^^
MAJOR

....I guess that deleting your rear wiper won't matter - There ain't gonna be anyone able to get near enough to overtake you!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on December 20, 2008, 04:30:37 pm
wow! that is major work! brave man!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 20, 2008, 04:44:40 pm
Superb progress so far, I was pretty impressed when I stripped the seats out of mine recently for a track day - the rear upright weighs an absolute tonne! 150kg out of the car will be amazing.

I like the grille trim in white, I tend to agree with the heritage thing... but then VW Motorsport cars had them in blue - so it ain't set in stone.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 20, 2008, 05:16:25 pm
....

Is a roll-cage on your list? - In other words, having stripped out the back, do you intend to track it regularly?

:xmassmiley:

Nope, they are quite heavy  :grin:

Removing the rear interior parts purely for performance, dont have anyone in the rear of the car so its no inconvenience to me.. Having a carpet made to cover the shell, so it looks like this.. (less the scaffolding)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2F2770569768_cac1dd9cde_o.jpg&hash=f8db74dc2f44961c5a091f010c26fd775869545c)

Weight saving and lightening this car is going to be a big part of the concept, my target is to remove 150KG from the car, which will make a huge difference in terms of performance..

These are the parts that are going to save the weight, some of which I have already done  :happy2:

WHEELS & TYRES
REAR SEATS
BOOT CONTENTS + REAR MATS   
SUSPENSION
INTAKE
FRONT SEATS
BRAKES
BATTERY
EXHAUST
CARBON FRONT WINGS
CARBON BONNET
REMOVE BONNET INSULATION
SINGLE FRONT WIPER KIT
REAR WIPER DELETE   
POLY CARBONATE REAR WINDOWS
POSSIBLY REMOVE THE AIRCON SYSTEM, PUMP, RAD, HOSES ETC ETC

Im going for a Club-Sport type of spec, dont want to strip the car out and have it a bare shell inside, need to keep a certain level of comfort, and I want it to look like it could have came like this from the factory, R26R style..

so you are running stage 2 on a stock exhaust ?

Having an exhaust made very soon, reason I went for the Stage 2 right away was so that I could have the exhaust made and fitted to my car without having a CEL up on the dash.. should be on straight after new year  :smiley:
can i just ask why did you bother buying an ed 30 / gti you could have started with a base model and fitted the parts you wanted  to that just with the engine turbo etc ???????????? :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on December 20, 2008, 05:19:01 pm
^^^^ that doesn't make sense what do you mean.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 20, 2008, 05:31:08 pm
....

To all those who would change the colour of their GTI/Ed30/Pirelli's iconic red lipstick line around the upper grill..........


:mad: SACRILEGE!!!! :fighting:


You may as well totally debadge your car while you are at it!
yes cant agree more imo this should be made a criminal offence :fighting:

Oh give up lol..

Why would I want to start with a base model Golf, that would be infinitely more expensive doing it that way..

All im doing is removing parts / adding lightweight parts to the car and tuning the car..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on December 21, 2008, 01:26:05 am
I think he meant a base model GTI, which weren't a kinda limited run. So that would have been a KO4 upgrade.

As for the red lip, its a clip on clip off part  :surprised: i,e easy to change. I have a few grills for my GTI and its the one thing I love about the MK5 GTI/GT front, its really customisable.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 21, 2008, 09:42:09 am
sorry , yes thats what i ment , imo if you was planning this amount of work using a limited (numbered ) car was nt necessary , dont get me wrong i like what your doing and i know the results will be amazing but i think the edition 30 only needs mild tuning to make it what vw should have  :happy2: 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 11:09:13 am
Even if you say compare the GTI to the ED30 as a base car..

Lower compression, stronger crank, forged rods, K04 turbo.. The whole engine is different

Then the full body kit etc.. and the fact that is it a limited car, I think thats cooler, as less people are likely to do this type of thing, at the end of the day im doing all of this for my own enjoyment, and part of why I like it is to make my cars individual, and like nothing else..

Anyways, the aim with this car is to make it the fastest ED30/GTI in the UK.. So starting with an ED30 made sense..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 21, 2008, 11:23:11 am
Even if you say compare the GTI to the ED30 as a base car..

Lower compression, stronger crank, forged rods, K04 turbo.. The whole engine is different

....It makes you wonder why VW applied those engine changes just to support an extra 30 bhp - Wouldn't a ECU remap equivalent to Stage1 delivered the same? But I guess that the answer to my question may be to do with VW's wish to maintain their usual headroom (thought to be about +40%).

Many of us here relate very enthusiastically to making our cars individual - It's a labour of love.

Nice one! Jonny

:happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 11:27:55 am
I think its more to do with the fact that they would be aware of the potential of the K04 turbo, and the fact that people are going to tune them up.. Its nice that the engine is so strong.. Just a shame they didnt throw some really beefy rods in it at the same time  :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 21, 2008, 11:39:02 am
^^^^

Also that they (VW) didn't do anything extra to the DSG gearbox but of course they know how robust it already is (we assume!). I don't expect that VW want to get on that slippery slope of modding! - It's endless!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 21, 2008, 11:48:06 am
I think its more to do with the fact that they would be aware of the potential of the K04 turbo, and the fact that people are going to tune them up..

....Do you think that VW take into account the aftermarket tuning potential? - I don't know for sure but I would have thought that VW would only be concerned about their standard production car's reliability and possibly longevity, and that it's nothing to do with them what Mad Englishmen subsequently do to their fine German Craftsmenship. 

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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 21, 2008, 12:06:57 pm
Oh I don't know, you can order Oettinger stuff including remaps direct from dealers in Germany with full VW warranty back up (unless it has changed very recently).

Also, it's not that limited a car. What was there, like 3000+ official VW cars and then the grey imports from the likes of Motorpoint on top??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 21, 2008, 12:35:39 pm
Oh I don't know, you can order Oettinger stuff including remaps direct from dealers in Germany with full VW warranty back up (unless it has changed very recently).

....That slightly misses my point: I'm suggesting/asking whether VW design and manufacture the GTI/Ed30 with aftermarket in mind, but you are pointing out that VW subsequently accept some aftermarket products under their warranty - But that's only if the product is TUV-rated and a matter for the German dealer, and not VW, to individually decide.

Some UK VW dealers offer tuning packages too, but is it designed for in VW's original manufacture? - I suggest not, but I don't know definitively.

I'm asking if anyone here knows for certain.

:happy2: 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 03:24:20 pm
All im saying is that VAG, like all car manufacturers are aware of OBD tuning..

If they put out a turbo charged car that can be tuned to say 320hp 330ft/lbs with only a re-map, and the rods will only take 300HP then they are in big trouble..

Re-map the car.. Blow it up.. Remove the map.. Take it back to VW and ask why the hell your standard car has grenaded itself??

Just a thought.. But anyways this thread is way off topic

Wouldn't mind someone cleaning it up really if thats possible..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 05:17:03 pm
....

Actually, Jonny, if you prefer to keep a thread protected from meandering bods like me, you can always lock it and open up another discussion thread in another area of the site - Plus a link in it to the locked Read-Only topic.

Hope This Helps (HTH)

Honestly mate im not bothered about people talking on the thread, and I like to hear opinions from everyone, thats why I posted the thread in the first place  :smiley:

Just makes it a bit tricky to spot the updates thats all..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 21, 2008, 05:31:18 pm
Jonny, what state of tune are you looking at for the meet at Pod (1st Feb)? Should be a seriously quick motor when finished..
DSG works well with the power doesn't it, just no dip in power at all, I love it...  :xmasrolleyes:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 05:45:56 pm
Jonny, what state of tune are you looking at for the meet at Pod (1st Feb)? Should be a seriously quick motor when finished..
DSG works well with the power doesn't it, just no dip in power at all, I love it...  :xmasrolleyes:

Hey mate..

Should be running all of the K04 bolt on parts by then, so full 3" cat less exhaust, Intake, Intercooler upgrade (not sure what im going for at the moment) Autotech HPFP, PCV, DV, Revo stage 2+.. hopefully around the 360BHP mark..

Or maybes a GT3071R and 450bhp haha..

DSG is amazing, and would compliment a BT very very well!! That was my only complaint with the BT kit on the S3, just took half a second between gear changes to re spool the turbo..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 21, 2008, 05:48:59 pm
Even if you say compare the GTI to the ED30 as a base car..

Lower compression, stronger crank, forged rods, K04 turbo.. The whole engine is different

Then the full body kit etc.. and the fact that is it a limited car, I think thats cooler, as less people are likely to do this type of thing, at the end of the day im doing all of this for my own enjoyment, and part of why I like it is to make my cars individual, and like nothing else..

Anyways, the aim with this car is to make it the fastest ED30/GTI in the UK.. So starting with an ED30 made sense..  :happy2:

jonny you may be able to solve a long term thing for me , do you know the spec of the ed30 engine ?  when i first got my car heard rumours it was an s3 engine in a de tuned state , is this true ? or whats the spec ?  cheers mate  :happy2: also are you doing the rear lower bumper in black ? i was going to do it but chickened out !! :innocent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 05:55:00 pm
Even if you say compare the GTI to the ED30 as a base car..

Lower compression, stronger crank, forged rods, K04 turbo.. The whole engine is different

Then the full body kit etc.. and the fact that is it a limited car, I think thats cooler, as less people are likely to do this type of thing, at the end of the day im doing all of this for my own enjoyment, and part of why I like it is to make my cars individual, and like nothing else..

Anyways, the aim with this car is to make it the fastest ED30/GTI in the UK.. So starting with an ED30 made sense..  :happy2:

jonny you may be able to solve a long term thing for me , do you know the spec of the ed30 engine ?  when i first got my car heard rumours it was an s3 engine in a de tuned state , is this true ? or whats the spec ?  cheers mate  :happy2: also are you doing the rear lower bumper in black ? i was going to do it but chickened out !! :innocent:

Yessssss...

Basically the ED30 engine and turbo is exactly the same as the S3 unit, seems there is a load of confusion over this, but it has the same lower compression pistons, forged rods, bigger map sensor, K04 turbo, stronger block, and strengthened crank..

The only difference is the map, the exhaust and the intercooler (ED30 runs the OEM GTI cooler, but sure you know that)

Hence why an ED30 produces mapped S3 power levels when remapped..

Im planning on having the Grille, rear bumper 'diffuser section' and possibly the roof done in Matte black.. Actually not the roof.. or maybes the roof.. errm  :laugh:

Going to have the wheels and grille stripe painted in a different colour too, should be very different!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 21, 2008, 06:01:18 pm
thanks for that , are you doing just the centre lower section of the bumper like a mk 1 s3 ? are you painting or wrapping ?(http://)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2FDSCF1481.jpg&hash=d578323d42e9506c2c02b15be105ea949f9e036a)
(http://)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2FDSCF1268.jpg&hash=a9089ed8d51b0358c7fe35d56766a6b0bea20f72)
  heres mine  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 06:04:27 pm
Yeah just the lower section mate..

Going to have it wrapped, much better option IMO, cant see any reason to paint really..

Looks nice! Standard wheels powder coated?

(can only see two of your pics)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 21, 2008, 06:10:17 pm
anothe one doing the wrap now  :signLOL: it will look  8)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 06:12:26 pm
anothe one doing the wrap now  :signLOL: it will look  8)

Seems crazy to paint doesn't it..

A very good friend of mine owns a graphics company, I have worked with him for years which is another very good reason for getting it done..

Still considering having the whole car done  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 21, 2008, 06:13:52 pm
yes they are pescarra s done in anthacite , think i ll be having 19 s next year , bbs ck i think !
(http://) (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2FDSCF1251.jpg&hash=444ceb7708857911c3c1cc90b716a017674e22e3)
(http://)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2FDSCF1252.jpg&hash=c8d2616aa56b6db8e0952aab7bacb74847c886ba)
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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 06:17:43 pm
Ah they look cool. Like the dark anthracite colour  :happy2:

Anyone done the lower section of the rear bumper in black on an ED30? Sure I have seen a pic somewhere..  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 21, 2008, 06:23:57 pm
Ah they look cool. Like the dark anthracite colour  :happy2:

Anyone done the lower section of the rear bumper in black on an ED30? Sure I have seen a pic somewhere..  :jumpmove:

pm your email i have a pic on my phone of it done

u have mail :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 21, 2008, 06:30:08 pm
could you pm me that pic please ? :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 06:36:28 pm
Ah cool, thanks for that mate.. Looks cool!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 21, 2008, 06:42:25 pm
Ah cool, thanks for that mate.. Looks cool!  :smiley:

happy to help and it was painted i had a look  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on December 21, 2008, 06:55:36 pm
(http://)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2Ftn.jpg&hash=bb094c78f3d6fb135501fd0b4848a6a22bb7b626)
 looks good , i think ill wait and see what yours look like jonny  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 06:56:47 pm
I dont mind being a test pilot..  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: dubsport on December 21, 2008, 07:05:03 pm
This is one of the best threads ever on any forum jonnyc, plans are amazing, keep the mods and the updates coming  :happy2:

Cant wait to see the end result when you finish the car - if there ever is a finishing point that is  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 21, 2008, 08:43:40 pm
Cheers man! I know I love reading threads like this lol.. Thats why Im doing one for the car..

Things are moving pretty quickly  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 27, 2008, 01:16:24 am
Hey all..

Heres a couple of comparison shots of the ED30 courtesy of Santa dropping off a copy of Photoshop for me  :happy2:

Just shows a few plans that I have for the exterior over the coming weeks  :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_6137edit.jpg&hash=60274af198486d27afb520677fdd98f71079dc34)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_6137.jpg&hash=90a9c3c41239d929e5efb5dd2ed06cbfaa769539)
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Let me know what you think!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on December 27, 2008, 02:09:05 am
wish I had the dollar to do what you doing, car looks great   :xmassmiley: :xmassmiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 27, 2008, 04:22:08 pm
Not really that expensive mate..

I know exactly what I want so im not planning on buying anything twice.. Thats when it starts getting expensive!!

For the money that im spending on the car, its well worth it for the difference that it will make, going to be absolutely transformed when its finished!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on December 28, 2008, 05:04:22 pm
Looking great Jonny. Is it me or is the front sitting a little high still?  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 182_blue on December 28, 2008, 06:10:35 pm
are the Turinis 19"
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gazbutS3 on December 28, 2008, 06:18:58 pm
are the Turinis 19"

18's me thinks
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Post by: broke. on December 28, 2008, 06:29:41 pm
you know what i think mate, stunning  :drinking:
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Post by: jonnyc on December 29, 2008, 05:31:06 pm
Yeah they are 18's. Look much bigger now its low  :wink:

Yeah the front is still high, I have lowered it since the pics, so its sat nicer now, but ideally I would like it to be dropped another 10mm..

Local speed bumps are the only problem with that lol..
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Post by: dubsport on December 30, 2008, 12:07:17 am
Plans are looking good mate, what are you planning on doing with the front number plate - if your gona put one on that is  :wink:
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Post by: tony_danza on December 30, 2008, 09:06:26 am
Hey all..

Heres a couple of comparison shots of the ED30 courtesy of Santa dropping off a copy of Photoshop for me  :happy2:

Just shows a few plans that I have for the exterior over the coming weeks  :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_6137edit.jpg&hash=60274af198486d27afb520677fdd98f71079dc34)

Let me know what you think!

Jonny

I really like the contrast of the anthracite & candy in this shot, think it's pretty much made up my mind on what colour to have my winter/track wheels.

Hust out of interest, what do they weigh with a tyre? I assume they're not the magnesium ones??
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Post by: jonnyc on December 30, 2008, 11:10:08 am
Ah cool, yeah I think they look great.. Although this isn't exactly the colour im going for, its going to be a lot more battle ship grey than anthracite.. Should look a little different!!

I think with tyres they are about 17-18KG..

I tried to get the Mg wheels but you need to order 12 sets lol..
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Post by: jonnyc on December 30, 2008, 11:11:23 am
Plans are looking good mate, what are you planning on doing with the front number plate - if your gona put one on that is  :wink:

Well I have been running around with my private plate recently, but I have been stopped for it twice in the 4 days I have had it on, so back to a normal plate for me..

Still, going to have the grill worked on a little bit so should be a bit different  :happy2:
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Post by: tony_danza on December 30, 2008, 11:33:00 am
Ah cool, yeah I think they look great.. Although this isn't exactly the colour im going for, its going to be a lot more battle ship grey than anthracite.. Should look a little different!!

I think with tyres they are about 17-18KG..

I tried to get the Mg wheels but you need to order 12 sets lol..

Crap, that's seriously light... I bet the car felt instantly better sticking those on alone!

So needing a set now  :drool:
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Post by: jonnyc on January 01, 2009, 07:29:23 pm
Oh man, If you want a set you can buy mine, they are not really for sale but I have some other wheels in mind so let me know when your thinking of buying..

Jonny
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Post by: tony_danza on January 01, 2009, 07:48:56 pm
Ahh, timing's all wrong - just bought some 6-pot APs and besides, I have a set of BBS in the garage for the track anyways... so I don't actually need them, as much as I'd like them!!

Maybe in a few months when I've saved some more money in the car's slush fund, I might shift the BBS on and take you up on that offer.

Can I have first refusal though?
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Post by: jonnyc on January 01, 2009, 07:51:59 pm
Yeah sure you can have first refusal on them mate..
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Post by: tony_danza on January 01, 2009, 08:13:01 pm
 :happy2:

What are you thinking of next?
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Post by: jonnyc on January 01, 2009, 08:30:38 pm
Something very light  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on January 01, 2009, 08:34:31 pm
Hmmmm I'm interested.... that's a short list of wheels.

I happen to know someone who has just sold some Mg BBS - you haven't, have you?
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Post by: jonnyc on January 01, 2009, 08:39:49 pm
No lol..

Na im trying to get a set of Dymag wheels for mine, seeing the guy next week so ill try and sort them out then  :happy2:
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Post by: RedRobin on January 01, 2009, 09:08:27 pm
^^^^

Are Dymag those ultra-light carbon rims?
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Post by: jonnyc on January 01, 2009, 09:11:10 pm
Yep.. Carbon barrels with Mg centres..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on January 01, 2009, 09:21:00 pm
Do you mean these.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmm104%2Ftomashandmilly%2F012lr.gif&hash=09b7c8b2743120da40aa7e8aa089fe99f5788553)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 01, 2009, 09:22:03 pm
http://www.dymag.com/
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on January 01, 2009, 09:25:26 pm
Oh lordy they are outrageous,  :evilgrin:

You will have to fit a tracker to each on of them as well.  :laugh:
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Post by: jonnyc on January 01, 2009, 09:32:10 pm
Thats them  :happy2:
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Post by: RedRobin on January 01, 2009, 09:42:17 pm
^^^^

Those puppies are gorgeous (the Dymags, I mean).

Life's not a rehearsal, so if you've got the dosh available, get them and enjoy!!! I'm not jealous! :wink:
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Post by: jonnyc on January 02, 2009, 11:11:46 am
A few pics from the other day..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fdavejonny03.jpg&hash=7dabe45c36d487e4f468372d460d8e34e9dc475d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fdavejonny02.jpg&hash=687a51f0408e719a8dfa8aae1fce08456185bed2)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fdavejonny01.jpg&hash=2c91b790bfcbb6383f367b1b7bda3d9a031eeb6a)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 02, 2009, 12:45:22 pm
Looking sweet mate.. Nice small front plate too. Had one like that on previous two cars, but not bothered with the Golf for some reason..
When's the exhaust going on by the way pal?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 02, 2009, 01:03:45 pm
^^^^

Much easier to see your car's stance now that you haven't photographed her on grass.

If you are looking to lose weight - Carbonfibre bonnet? You can paint the outside top (as I have done) if you don't like the look.
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Post by: tony_danza on January 02, 2009, 01:19:29 pm
Oh God, those wheels...

Am I right in calculating they'll sit 9mm further out that a Monza II, are you getting any arch issues?

Hope you don't mind but I've sent a link of your pic to Tabs over on uk-MKIVs, as he's looking at them too. If not, let me know and I'll delete it.

Mike.
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Post by: jonnyc on January 02, 2009, 02:36:22 pm
^^^^

Much easier to see your car's stance now that you haven't photographed her on grass.

If you are looking to lose weight - Carbonfibre bonnet? You can paint the outside top (as I have done) if you don't like the look.

Yeah im planning on getting a carbon bonnet and having it painted.. Think its 12KG saved, so well worth it along with some carbon front wings..

Oh God, those wheels...

Am I right in calculating they'll sit 9mm further out that a Monza II, are you getting any arch issues?

Hope you don't mind but I've sent a link of your pic to Tabs over on uk-MKIVs, as he's looking at them too. If not, let me know and I'll delete it.

Mike.

Lol thats fine mate..

Yeah I had to do a fair bit of work to make them fit, and there is no way you could have it anywhere near as low as I have it without having the camber adjustable top mounts, adding negative camber gives you another 10-15mm clearance at the top..

So is everyone going to end up with Turini's now? Lol..  :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: broke. on January 02, 2009, 02:49:10 pm
how did you have your plate when you were stopped? was it because you had the small one on?
those dymag wheels look insane  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 02, 2009, 02:51:15 pm
Yeah had the tiny plate on.. Looked immense but out of the three times I drove the car I got stopped twice lol..

So got boring big plates on now and £30 lighter :(
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: broke. on January 02, 2009, 02:58:33 pm
my new plate is gunna be shortened but its the prefix option so can have a shortened plate 320mm. legal letters so should get away with it. police up here (nr. leeds) aren't bad at all, i drove my saxo (i know i know) with no front plate and my rear plate in the back window and never got stopped once. and that was like that for 18 months driving everyday. cool for me but worrying from a law-abiding citizen's POV
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Post by: RedRobin on January 02, 2009, 03:40:09 pm
Yeah I had to do a fair bit of work to make them fit, and there is no way you could have it anywhere near as low as I have it without having the camber adjustable top mounts, adding negative camber gives you another 10-15mm clearance at the top..

....I'm sure you already know that negative camber is going to adversely effect your tyres' life. Why not choose something like KW Clubsports where you can simply dial-in the negative camber just for track days.
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Post by: jonnyc on January 02, 2009, 04:35:27 pm
Yeah I had to do a fair bit of work to make them fit, and there is no way you could have it anywhere near as low as I have it without having the camber adjustable top mounts, adding negative camber gives you another 10-15mm clearance at the top..

....I'm sure you already know that negative camber is going to adversely effect your tyres' life. Why not choose something like KW Clubsports where you can simply dial-in the negative camber just for track days.

I have the adjustable top mounts, and yes im well aware of that..  :happy2:

KW club sports have a bent damper shaft to achieve the negative camber.. So running them if anything is non adjustble, not a case of dialing it in..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2009, 10:21:08 pm
Update on the car..

Got the prices back for all of the carbon panels (boot lid, bonnet, 10mm wider wings and carbon doors) seems very fair, and kind of what I expected..

Hopefully ill be able to get some of this stuff fitted to my car soon!

Re calculated and with conservative figures it seems that 325KG could be taken out of the car without affecting the every day driveability!! Pretty amazing IMO..

This would sit the base weight of the car at around 1050KG, and with 360Bhp+ and 350Ft/Lbs+ its going to be fairly swift!!

I would love to break 1000kg's but I dont think that would be achievable without removing air con, stripping the interior completely (carpets/headlining), no ICE (not that im bothered about that if im honest) and IMO for that last little bit it would make the car a joke.. I think if I can get the car down to 1050KG whilst retaining the OEM look (GTI ED30 Clubsport) then ill be very very happy!!

Time to get saving up..

Also today I had a custom 3" turbo back exhaust fitted to the car, one long resonator box in the tunnel, and the largest box we could fit situated in the centre, with straight pipe to a twin 3" staggered tail pipe! Looks ace, sounds great and now the car really goes well..

Also had an Autotech HPFP installed, does exactly what it says on the tin, more mid range and smoother boost throughout the rev range, very worthwhile mod IMO!

So only a few more bits to do to the car until its reached the full potential of the standard K04 turbo.. S3 intercooler (possibly combined with a Forge Twin cooler), Custom throttle body to intercooler pipe, Stage 2+ Revo map (to make the most of the fuel pump) and one more very exciting mod which im not going to tell you about!! :)

So lots more done, but still a long way to go.. Really excited about this project.. Fantastic base car to start with, and it just keeps on getting better and better!!

Jonny
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Post by: Top Cat on January 03, 2009, 10:31:34 pm
Haha you are mental, which company are you getting for the carbon panels  :smiley:
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Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2009, 10:34:32 pm
Haha you are mental, which company are you getting for the carbon panels  :smiley:

Seibon, US company.. Really nice stuff..

Heres the links to the parts in question :laugh:

These..

http://www.seiboncarbon.com/pdut_detail_pic.asp?ItemID=671

Them..

http://www.seiboncarbon.com/pdut_detail_pic.asp?ItemID=669

This..

http://www.seiboncarbon.com/pdut_detail_pic.asp?ItemID=673

And that..

http://www.seiboncarbon.com/pdut_detail_pic.asp?ItemID=678
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on January 03, 2009, 10:51:18 pm
Please tell me you're getting all that carbon painted.
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Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2009, 10:53:48 pm
Hell yeah.. Not into that look lol..

Actually I would be getting it vinyl wrapped, just for re-sale purposes, as it would give people the choice :)

Also vinyl is lighter than paint.. but thats honestly not a reason, as it would be very marginal!
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Post by: matt a on January 03, 2009, 10:56:26 pm
In that case, I approve! lol

Also nice idea on the vinyl wrap.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2009, 11:01:36 pm
The only alternative is to have the whole car wrapped in Matte black, and leave the carbon bare.. (I would spec the carbon to be a matte finish also)

Really like the idea of this, and I was so close to having the car done just before Christmas, but to be honest, its been done, and its getting a bit old now..

Would still look nice but its money that can be better spent I think  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on January 04, 2009, 03:24:33 pm
i love to see your progress and think the car is looking great but cant help thinking i would have just brought this

(http://)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2F585197-6.jpg&hash=5073d80cf53ddde56d775eb059c69d26d966414f)
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Post by: matt a on January 04, 2009, 04:06:59 pm
^ Great cars.
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Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2009, 04:21:24 pm
i love to see your progress and think the car is looking great but cant help thinking i would have just brought this

(http://)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2F585197-6.jpg&hash=5073d80cf53ddde56d775eb059c69d26d966414f)

Mine now is a fair bit quicker than an RS4, had this whole conversation when I had my S3.. The RS4 is big, limited when it comes to tuning, not quick as standard and would look like I was driving my dad's car..

Ask Vtec about RS4's.. lol
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: dubsport on January 04, 2009, 04:44:33 pm
RS4's are without doubt lovely cars

BUT . . . this ed30 will be unique when its finished, and is much nicer looking imo already  :happy2:

Keep the updates coming  :laugh:
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Post by: candy turbo on January 04, 2009, 06:30:33 pm
i love to see your progress and think the car is looking great but cant help thinking i would have just brought this

(http://)(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fn374%2Fcandyturbo_2008%2F585197-6.jpg&hash=5073d80cf53ddde56d775eb059c69d26d966414f)

Mine now is a fair bit quicker than an RS4, had this whole conversation when I had my S3.. The RS4 is big, limited when it comes to tuning, not quick as standard and would look like I was driving my dad's car..

Ask Vtec about RS4's.. lol
i can see what your saying i just love the rs 4 (especially this yellow one )  i went in as a passenger in a revo demo car when revo was only just coming to the uk and the noise and power that thing made i will never forget , my ed30 is quick but imo is not in the same league as the rs 4 . are you at the santa pod meet ?would like to see/hear your car for real  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2009, 06:43:21 pm
Yeah ill be there.. Really looking forward to it, should be good fun!

A well tuned K04 car can see of an RS4 with ease.. I did it yesterday in mine actually lol..

And in my S3 with K04.. With the big turbo it was a joke lol..

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Post by: RedRobin on January 04, 2009, 08:28:45 pm
....

It's not just about how fast performance stats you can buy for your money though, is it. Jonny's car will be (already is) unique. It's horses for courses and not everyone wants a fast family car like the RS4 - I find the hatchback much more suitable for my lifestyle - We each choose our car for a variety of reasons.
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Post by: Rocket on January 04, 2009, 08:31:20 pm
Yeah ill be there.. Really looking forward to it, should be good fun!

A well tuned K04 car can see of an RS4 with ease.. I did it yesterday in mine actually lol..

And in my S3 with K04.. With the big turbo it was a joke lol..



Sweet ride there, especially like the S3. Are you based around Wiltshire? as I noticed your S3 at Castle Coomb and I've seen Regals RSS350 in Swindon before too!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: wigit on January 04, 2009, 08:45:23 pm
jonnyc just keeps getting better loving the wrapped carbon bits :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 05, 2009, 02:30:13 pm
Not read the thread for a while Jonny but things just keep getting better and better. Cannot wait to see it in the flesh at the pod.  :happy2: :driver:
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Post by: WhiteGTI on January 05, 2009, 07:20:57 pm
Jonny, you're taste in modifying is exemplary!

Keep posting pics etc etc etc!!!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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Post by: 182_blue on January 05, 2009, 07:51:12 pm
Do you mean these.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmm104%2Ftomashandmilly%2F012lr.gif&hash=09b7c8b2743120da40aa7e8aa089fe99f5788553)

how much are these ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 05, 2009, 07:56:53 pm
if you need to ask you cant afford them  :P







































£5500  :surprised:
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Post by: 182_blue on January 05, 2009, 07:59:11 pm
is that each  :laugh:
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Post by: MAT ED30 on January 05, 2009, 08:00:55 pm
is that each  :laugh:


god i hope not  :surprised:
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Post by: dubsport on January 05, 2009, 10:45:52 pm
I hope the luvly ladies comes free  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2009, 04:14:40 pm
Thanks guys.. Really pleased with the car as it is now.. but its at this point now where its starting to get serious lol..

Anyways after a few recalculations, and having the figures in front of me for the carbon parts it seems that its more like 225KG - 250KG saving that is going to be achievable..

Plus another 15Kg's off that if I decide to remove the Air con pump, rad, pipe work etc etc.. Really undecided on this though.. hmm

Anyways it seems that I should be able to get down to 1150Kg's with the plans that I have.. Not bad I dont think!

Also it would have a better power to weight ratio figure than a 997 GT3 RS, E46 CSL, Nissan GTR, 997 Turbo, RS4, E92 M3, Noble M12 GT03-R, Lotus Exige S 240 Cup Race version.. You get the idea lol..

:)
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Post by: wigit on January 06, 2009, 04:31:35 pm
johnnyc you put us standard types to shame, your smile should be bigger with figures lke that  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 06, 2009, 04:37:14 pm
i think i know who got the idea from  :wink:

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69882

 :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 06, 2009, 04:37:44 pm
Thanks guys.. Really pleased with the car as it is now.. but its at this point now where its starting to get serious lol..

Anyways after a few recalculations, and having the figures in front of me for the carbon parts it seems that its more like 225KG - 250KG saving that is going to be achievable..

Plus another 15Kg's off that if I decide to remove the Air con pump, rad, pipe work etc etc.. Really undecided on this though.. hmm

Anyways it seems that I should be able to get down to 1150Kg's with the plans that I have.. Not bad I dont think!

Also it would have a better power to weight ratio figure than a 997 GT3 RS, E46 CSL, Nissan GTR, 997 Turbo, RS4, E92 M3, Noble M12 GT03-R, Lotus Exige S 240 Cup Race version.. You get the idea lol..

:)
So what you are saying is that it's going to be $hit slow then Jonny?  :wink:
You going with slicks or standard road tyres for Pod. Either way the only thing that you'll be racing that'll give you any grief, is your shadow..   :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 06, 2009, 04:43:25 pm
i dont think so as andy should be coming in his 600bhp golf r32  :evilgrin:
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Post by: JPC on January 06, 2009, 04:50:19 pm
WOW! cant wait for that!
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Post by: luca on January 06, 2009, 05:00:09 pm
Is the black JBS mk4 r32 matt?
Would love to see that :smiley:

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Post by: RedRobin on January 06, 2009, 05:16:55 pm
Is the black JBS mk4 r32 matt?


....I've seen video of that car.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2009, 05:22:01 pm
i dont think so as andy should be coming in his 600bhp golf r32  :evilgrin:

Yeah thats going to be the quickest thing there for sure.. But spending 20k+ does have that affect.. lol
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 06, 2009, 07:38:08 pm
Is the black JBS mk4 r32 matt?
Would love to see that :smiley:


yes fella its this one
http://vimeo.com/1913349
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 06, 2009, 07:56:09 pm
I went down to the GTI International with Andy in convoy with the JBS guys - fastest I've EVER done that journey :signLOL:

Andy's car sounds awesome coming past you on the motorway private road doing ***mph. I thought mine was fast but his is just bonkers fast :drool: He did 11 second passes all weekend with a boost pipe leak :surprised:
I wouldn't be surprised if he got into the 10's at the pod now it's running well. :happy2:

err sorry Jonny for the thread jack :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2009, 08:03:15 pm
I went down to the GTI International with Andy in convoy with the JBS guys - fastest I've EVER done that journey :signLOL:

Andy's car sounds awesome coming past you on the motorway private road doing ***mph. I thought mine was fast but his is just bonkers fast :drool: He did 11 second passes all weekend with a boost pipe leak :surprised:
I wouldn't be surprised if he got into the 10's at the pod now it's running well. :happy2:

err sorry Jonny for the thread jack :ashamed:

Lol its ok..

I have been out in that car with James from JBS driving it.. interesting lol..

It sure is quick, but the Mkiv chassis is poop.. Still, as a straight line monster nothing much would get close im sure!

Anyways the more and more I look at these carbon bits the more worried I am about fitment etc, seems that Seibon have not been getting very good reviews, and the Osir stuff I have had in the past were not fantastic.. May just have something made myself..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on January 06, 2009, 09:13:29 pm
that r32 was being built in jbs s workshop when they re mapped my ed30 ! jbs are speed demons for definate imo the only place to go with any fast vw , audi , skoda etc
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Post by: RedRobin on January 06, 2009, 09:22:57 pm
....

Such a pity that whoever made that vid decided to drown the exhaust sound with silly music!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 06, 2009, 10:26:41 pm
Custom CF FTW :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Mark M on January 08, 2009, 12:37:53 am
Really nice looking wagon there!

Need to get the plate braket holes filled/smoothed/painted though  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 08, 2009, 01:11:22 am
Also it would have a better power to weight ratio figure than a 997 GT3 RS, E46 CSL, Nissan GTR, 997 Turbo, RS4, E92 M3, Noble M12 GT03-R, Lotus Exige S 240 Cup Race version.. You get the idea lol..

:)


Now you've really got me thinking  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:  I had plans for CF to shed weight and add a subtle look to the car - mine's black - but I didn't realise that 360bhp would put you in that territory.. and all for the princely sum of £50  :drool: :drool: :drool:  from my current Stage 2 Revo set-up.  I am concerned about stressing the turbo and other parts - like the engine - as Stage 2+ pushes the Ed30 to its limit with my current set-up.  I am planning on geting a Quaife LSD with uprated DSG parts so hopefully it should cope transmission wise.  Wondering if the driveshaft might snap later on... or the engine show premature wear.  Although I suppose it also depends on driving style. If I track it frequently or drive hard all the time then it will obviously have a negative effect and greatly increase the chances of failure somewhere.  But I take it quite easy on the Ed30 most of the time so maybe I can get away with it  :laugh: 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 08, 2009, 11:13:42 am
I don't think Stage 2+ alone will put it into GTR terriotory alone mate.. Jonny's will be when it's finished, as it will of shed over a 1/4 of a tonne in weight, so seriously raising it's bhp/tonne.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 08, 2009, 12:00:06 pm
I don't think Stage 2+ alone will put it into GTR terriotory alone mate.. Jonny's will be when it's finished, as it will of shed over a 1/4 of a tonne in weight, so seriously raising it's bhp/tonne.

Agreed, although I'm losing some weight - but not 1/4 tonne  :surprised:  As long as its stupid fast I'm happy  :grin: :grin: :grin: BTW, my next car will be a GT-R  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 09, 2009, 10:55:24 pm
Yeah its the weight and power together which makes the difference, a standard weight ED30 with 360BHP has 262Hp/Ton mine should be running 310+Hp/Ton  :happy2: (If I can get it down to my target base weight)

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: E30m3 on January 10, 2009, 07:19:14 pm
Not replied to this thread, but my hat goes of to you JonnyC.

You have really set the standard when it comes to modding/upgrading cars. All your previous work was jaw dropping.

Love your thinking on this Mk5 ed.30, LTW has always been the best mod for performance ! Also love your taste in styling mods  8)

Really hope to see your car in the flesh one day .  8)

Your old mk5 was an inspiration to me, i made my ed30 look exactly like it !!!  :grin:  :happy2:

keep up the great work !!!   :drinking:

Raj
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 11, 2009, 12:12:18 pm
Thanks mate..

So many plans for the car! Even more after being at Autosport for the last couple of days, did manage to get a minute spare to see a few guys about my Golf which was nice..

Little Update..

Im having my own bonnet made, but thats going to take a while..

The boot lid im not going to bother, the weight difference vs. the look and fitment of the carbon product just isn't enough.. Also as Im going to be painting/vinyl wrapping the carbon there is nothing in it for the look anyways..

So im planning on lightening the standard boot lid with the poly carbonate screen (super thin 2mm) deleting the rear wiper mechanism and removing some of the OTT strengthening in the OEM metal boot lid.. Once all that is done I should be at a similar weight to the carbon item, for much less money with a much nicer final look  :happy2:

Think this is going to be the best way to go, its imperative to me that the carbon parts look 100% like the factory parts, otherwise IMO it just looks cheap! And a Shi**y finish on jus one part can completely destroy the overall look of a car..

Pretty much decided on the intercooler solution for my car, its going to be something a little different, as far as im aware no one will have this set up when its fitted to my car, im confident that it should be the best around!  :laugh:

Found the seats that ill be having fitted, going for the Recaro Pole positions, but with a major twist.. Going to end up completely custom really, but should look absolutely stunning!! Really cant wait for these (And should save me 45-50kg's too!!)

Bit of a breakthrough on the brakes too, again something completely different, most will have never heard of them, but trust me.. They are amazing!! No deal done here just yet so ill keep quiet until its confirmed..

So there we are, suppose it looks like im changing my mind all the time but as im posting updates as I go along thats just part of it I guess.. Really hope that I can get most of it done in time for the Pod meet, Im guessing that is going to be fairly tricky as im running out of time (and money) very quickly..  :wink:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on January 13, 2009, 10:41:29 pm
I dont like posting on this thread as it clutters it up but just this once lol. Some cracking ideas there jonnyc, really individual too.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 14, 2009, 08:17:28 pm
Its official..

Car is booked in to go to VW Racing on Monday for a load of bits to be fitted..

Unfortunately there is a back order on the seats and I wont be able to have the poly windows fitted for another 3-4 weeks, so not in time for the Pod date!

Shame.. Still, ill be there and doing my best  :happy2:

Cant wait to drop the car off with the guys there, going to be a new beast when I pick it up im sure!!

Big update coming once I get the car back! Should be late next week :driver:

Quite excited.. lol  :laugh:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on January 14, 2009, 08:34:40 pm
good luck johnny, enjoying reading your progress- and wishing I get a big prize from premium bonds   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 15, 2009, 04:32:09 pm
Its official..

Car is booked in to go to VW Racing on Monday for a load of bits to be fitted..

Unfortunately there is a back order on the seats and I wont be able to have the poly windows fitted for another 3-4 weeks, so not in time for the Pod date!

Shame.. Still, ill be there and doing my best  :happy2:

Cant wait to drop the car off with the guys there, going to be a new beast when I pick it up im sure!!

Big update coming once I get the car back! Should be late next week :driver:

Quite excited.. lol  :laugh:

Jonny

Sounds interesting mate.. Whats being put on out of interest? Or is it more 'taken off'?  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 15, 2009, 04:53:24 pm
A bit of both really..  :happy2:

Update..

I installed a Braille 15lbs race battery into my car today, so cute.. Its tiny! It saves 12KG over the standard battery without being too extreme, its advertised as being an all weather battery. First impressions are that the car starts stronger than ever, and im sure Ill have no problems.. Quite expensive but loosing weight isn't cheap!

The car is going in to the exhaust shop tomorrow to have some further work done on the exhaust, experimenting with some different box designs to tune the sound to what im after, I have a full 3" system on the car and its currently running with 3 boxes, too many for my liking, not great for performance having that many, and weight too.. Plus its a bit soft on the ears  :laugh: Ill report on this tomorrow..

I'm having a Forge Motorsport Twintercooler and a Forge DV fitted to the car.. Then in a few weeks time ill be taking a trip to Forge to have an S3 cooler mounted too, plus some other trick parts, boost pipes etc..

Really looking forward to seeing the results, everything around shows that the Forge cooler is the best way to go, cant wait to feel the difference for myself, and combined with the OEM S3 cooler I think that its going to be a great package.

Then Ill be having a Quaife DSG LSD fitted to the car, pretty simple, a FWD with the kind of power that im running and open diff is always going to be a huge compromise so I have opted to go with an LSD.

I have the VF Engineering engine mounts on my car at the moment but im going to have a play around with some of the VW Racing mounts that are now available, there are two options on the mounts, im planning on going for the full race spec version, billet alloy, pretty extreme but the performance advantage will be huge.

Ill be having the helper springs removed from the dampers currently fitted to the car, bit of a long explanation but IMO there not required and will allow me to have the car sat just as I like it.. LOW!

On top of all this stuff there will be lots of work going on with the car, full service on the engine and DSG box, allignment and removing as much dead weight as possible etc.. Really looking forward to getting the car back! And its not even gone yet lol..

Like I said, its a shame that the seats and windows wont be in the car until after the Santa Pod meet, but nothing I can do about that!

Once I get the car back from VW Racing then Ill post up a full report on all of the new parts and include some pictures! I know most of the recent updates have been a bit wordy! Tomorrow Ill be getting a load of pics of the full exhaust and battery mods  :happy2:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on January 15, 2009, 06:24:56 pm
I agree with you Jonny, less words more mental stuff.  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on January 16, 2009, 11:32:19 pm
Would be nice to see some pictures of all these fancy bits your buying.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 17, 2009, 09:02:13 am
Bet you can't wait for the first person to come upto you and say "Nice car mate, what exactly have you had done to it?"... "You got half hour mate?"... :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: P10YRS on January 17, 2009, 10:56:50 am
Thats a Serious! car your building there..

What you going to do with your old vf mounts when you get the vw racing ones??

Il take them off your hands  :happy2:

Ash.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 17, 2009, 12:14:33 pm
....

Hi Jonny,

I was up at VWR on Tuesday and probably a quick visit there again this week coming (but haven't spoken to Mark about it yet).

You'll be in very good hands as I'm sure you already realise. :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FVWR_JobDone.jpg&hash=11058f98fcf48c8814699b2b3f13c988324a729c)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FVWR_Sciroccos.jpg&hash=6b9febc1ca58f47b739766233774341670125aa7)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 12:46:28 pm
Bet you can't wait for the first person to come upto you and say "Nice car mate, what exactly have you had done to it?"... "You got half hour mate?"... :grin:

Lol pretty much.. Ill probably just say, yeah a lot of stuff.. Should be easier to list things I haven't done really haha.. (but that may just give me ideas)

Thats a Serious! car your building there..

What you going to do with your old vf mounts when you get the vw racing ones??

Il take them off your hands  :happy2:

Ash.

Sent you an email  :happy2:

....

Hi Jonny,

I was up at VWR on Tuesday and probably a quick visit there again this week coming (but haven't spoken to Mark about it yet).

You'll be in very good hands as I'm sure you already realise. :happy2:


Ah cool, yeah the car is being dropped off on monday night, should have it back within the week fingers crossed as I have a RR day on that Saturday! :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 03:31:14 pm
Picturesssss!!

Finally I have something a little more interesting to look at! :grin:

So had a play around with some Matte Black vinyl today, its not designed for wrapping so it was pretty tricky to get a reasonable finish but I think it looks ok.. Wrapped both the main grille and badge..

Will be fitting this to the car later today..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05167.jpg&hash=d76eb8c949758b88c37a412bc2b9890ebfb61c00)

I didn't have enough left over to do the rear bumper but that will be getting done pretty soon  :laugh:

And heres some pics of the Braille lightweight 15lbs race battery (looks pretty lost in the standard battery box!)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05169.jpg&hash=e022a3d5040b8f945b88ce3d5c23199368abbe1d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05170.jpg&hash=a4a8804312aca26aaa3f4a551a05ce6c710ec0f3)

The car went back into the exhaust shop yesterday to have some adjustments made to the exhaust, really pleased with the results, not really any drone on the motorway but sounds crazy when your on power! Also on the up shifts the sound is amazing with the DSG.. Sounds like an ignition cut! (Ill get some detailed pics of the Exhaust when its up on a ramp at VWR)

Heres a picture, shows the smooth bends, true 3" bore and the center silencer box, had the bottom of the box flattened off for ground clearance (already looks sh*tty because of all the salt on the roads, its T304 stainless though so its just on the surface)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05168.jpg&hash=93a9153a884b63d145f85f86e4eb9092009e3cec)

When the car goes into VWR im going to ask the guys there to take pics of the car during its surgery! So plenty more to come..  :wink:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 17, 2009, 03:37:42 pm
Looking fantastic! This is the best topic on this forum in my eyes!

How much was the battery, if you don't mind me asking? Not really looking to purchase, but just want an idea. From looking at your photos, it doesn't look like the carbon fibre ones that they offer? Correct me if I'm wrong  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 03:44:05 pm
Looking fantastic! This is the best topic on this forum in my eyes!

How much was the battery, if you don't mind me asking? Not really looking to purchase, but just want an idea. From looking at your photos, it doesn't look like the carbon fibre ones that they offer? Correct me if I'm wrong  :smiley:

Thanks mate.. Your only saying that because I have finally posted some pics lol..

Well, the battery with the clamp I bought was £175, but with an aluminium bracket its about £250, seen as how the battery is not going to be on show I thought it was pretty pointless buying a fancy looking bracket..

Quite funny regarding the Carbon battery, its actually a carbon skin wrapped around the battery I have, purely cosmetic, so if anything it weights more! So I went for the MUCH cheaper lighter, lightweight option lol..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 17, 2009, 03:46:39 pm
Looking fantastic! This is the best topic on this forum in my eyes!

How much was the battery, if you don't mind me asking? Not really looking to purchase, but just want an idea. From looking at your photos, it doesn't look like the carbon fibre ones that they offer? Correct me if I'm wrong  :smiley:

Thanks mate.. Your only saying that because I have finally posted some pics lol..

Well, the battery with the clamp I bought was £175, but with an aluminium bracket its about £250, seen as how the battery is not going to be on show I thought it was pretty pointless buying a fancy looking bracket..

Quite funny regarding the Carbon battery, its actually a carbon skin wrapped around the battery I have, purely cosmetic, so if anything it weights more! So I went for the MUCH cheaper lighter, lightweight option lol..  :happy2:

Lol, no really it's a great topic! I think you are doing the modification that most people on here dream of doing - fund permitting!

Thanks for the price info!

Ahh, I didn't know that it was just basically a 'carbon look'!!! Definitely think that you've made the right decision on that - re the carbon, and the aluminium bracket!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 04:56:04 pm
Ok.. Heres a pic of the grille fitted and a quick video of the exhaust sound.. (for those who have requested)

Always hard to get an idea of how an exhaust sounds with just a few revs but you can tell its quite an aggressive tone, not droney.. Like I said, sounds really nice on boost!

Grille fitted..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05172small.jpg&hash=32c303a21a747d29c1b683bc5f4f9188c53fb20c)

Exhaust sound..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fth_MOV05173.jpg&hash=730e7e6f2637d978d695dae2bcd375c00187dffa) (http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/jonnnny28/?action=view&current=MOV05173.flv)

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 182_blue on January 17, 2009, 04:58:14 pm
 to save me searching through the thread  :laugh: what exhaust is it
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 04:59:17 pm
Custom from the turbo mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 17, 2009, 05:03:55 pm
Think i will be going custom with the exhaust, i really want more noise. Will put the milltek tbe up for sale soon and hopefully get a custome done around march time.
Sounds really good jonny :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 17, 2009, 05:05:31 pm
Exhaust sounds good!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gazbutS3 on January 17, 2009, 05:27:15 pm
Think i will be going custom with the exhaust, i really want more noise. Will put the milltek tbe up for sale soon and hopefully get a custome done around march time.
Sounds really good jonny :happy2:

Luca, Dave at ADS has a guy that does custom systems for him :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 17, 2009, 05:49:01 pm
Picturesssss!!

When the car goes into VWR im going to ask the guys there to take pics of the car during its surgery! So plenty more to come..  :wink:

Jonny

....I can take some too when I'm up there, if you permit. Planning on being there Thursday (subject to Mark).

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 05:52:12 pm
Picturesssss!!

When the car goes into VWR im going to ask the guys there to take pics of the car during its surgery! So plenty more to come..  :wink:

Jonny

....I can take some too when I'm up there, if you permit. Planning on being there Thursday (subject to Mark).

:happy2:

No trouble at all.. Just keep the reg plate out and you can snap away! Pretty sure that the car should still be there on Thursday!   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 17, 2009, 05:58:28 pm
Custom from the turbo mate  :happy2:

 i am having the same done next friday so i hope it sound good  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 06:03:08 pm
Custom from the turbo mate  :happy2:

 i am having the same done next friday so i hope it sound good  :happy2:

Send me a PM with where you having it done etc and what design your going with, having had 7-8 different exhaust set ups on 2.0T FSI cars now I have a reasonably good idea what you need to go for so I may be able to help you :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on January 17, 2009, 08:38:40 pm
All very nice, is the battery box staying?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 17, 2009, 08:56:19 pm
Yeah, im running it with the battery box, I have it with the lid on usually but for the benefit of the pics I took it off :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 18, 2009, 09:46:42 am
That exhaust note is brilliant. Definately the best of heard on an Eddy so far  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Altered Carbon on January 19, 2009, 01:03:08 am
Great thread - love reading about what you've done to the car!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 19, 2009, 03:21:12 pm
Think i will be going custom with the exhaust, i really want more noise. Will put the milltek tbe up for sale soon and hopefully get a custome done around march time.
Sounds really good jonny :happy2:

I'm tempted but I'll stick with the Milltek purely out of financial considerations :sad: - although yours sounds awesome...  The non-res Milltek is a bit boomy around 3k rpm on the motorway, but I've put my foot down a couple of times accelerating from 10mph to say 70mph and it pops, crackles and sounds wonderful. 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 19, 2009, 04:09:08 pm
I want more pops and bangs, coming from a tuned cooper s that popped all the time, dumped fuel down the exhaust for fun lol.
The milltek isnt loud enough for me :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 19, 2009, 04:17:55 pm
Love this thread Jonny. Keep up the good work :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 19, 2009, 04:31:07 pm
The non-res Milltek is a bit boomy around 3k rpm on the motorway

....Mine used to be for the first couple of thousand miles but is no longer. It shouldn't last. I used to simply vary my revs - It was exactly 3,200 on mine.

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 19, 2009, 04:56:24 pm
The milltek isnt loud enough for me :driver:

 :surprised: :surprised:  Any louder and I'll need ear-defenders  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:  Or maybe I'm getting old and miserable  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 19, 2009, 04:57:16 pm
The non-res Milltek is a bit boomy around 3k rpm on the motorway

....Mine used to be for the first couple of thousand miles but is no longer. It shouldn't last. I used to simply vary my revs - It was exactly 3,200 on mine.

:happy2:

Thats good news... I've only done approx 500 miles since putting the Milltek in  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 20, 2009, 04:49:00 pm
Milltek.. Loud??

I must be deaf lol..

Update..

So yesterday was the big day! Dropped by Revo on the way to VW Racing to have my Stage 2 file upgraded to the Stage 2+. After a few logging runs we found the best settings for the car and I have to say it feels even better than before, super smooth, bags of torque but also very easy to drive and super predictable! Thanks!!

Once the mapping was finished I dropped off my car with the guys at VW Racing. I have to say it really is an impressive set up that they have! Huge premesis with everything in house!

We discussed thoroughly the overall plans for the car and decided on a number of things to be completed whilst the car was in for its first time. It was really great, felt like everything was covered and we were all on the same page when it came to the overall aim with this project!

Whilst I was there I also had a chance to take a look at a couple of new Scirocco race cars that are currently being built for the 09' season! Theres a few tasty bits that VW have developed specifically for the Scirocco which could potentailly move over to the Mk5 chassis, were currently looking into this, pretty exciting stuff!

Anyways I have to say what a fantastic place, felt VERY happy leaving my car in their hands, and really fantastic service etc..

Also ill be driving the VW Racing demo car while my car is in having the work completed (fell in love with the VWR front bumper)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fa11rll2.jpg&hash=383959ec4cae82b67e6a9ff10d3c53b7fd396103)

I have already had an update from Sam at lunch time to tell me that the box is out and the diff is being fitted, these guys really don't hang around!!  :laugh:

As you know I still have a lot of plans for the car, but for now ill be having the following completed on my car whilst its at VW Racing!

* 1st service for the car – Race oil

* Full DSG oil change and service

* New set of OEM spark plugs

* VWR lower engine mount supplied and fitted - Race version (Solid)

* Fit new front left damper (Koni inserts are NO good.. Ill be moving over to the VW Racing dampers ASAP)

* Remove helper springs from front dampers

* Fully set-up the car to agreed specs

* Poly bushed front end

* Quaife ATB DSG LSD supplied and fitted

* Rear bumper bar removed

* Removing rear wiper assembly

* Wheels painted matte anthracite

* Fitting of Forge Twintercooler kit

Next time the car goes in im planning on fitting the Recaro Pole Position seats, Poly carbonate rear windows plus LOTS of other small bits to help with the weight saving! This should amount to another 100+KG off the total weight of the car, its going to be ballistic!

In the mean while the car will also be taking a trip to Forge Motorsport to have an OEM S3 intercooler and custom boost pipes fitted, this combined with the Twintercooler kit should make a fantastic set up, and really keep the inlet temps down to a minimum!!

So that's pretty much it for now, hoping to have the car back for this weekend as I have a RR day that im planning on attending this Sat! Should be nice to see what figures the car is making!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 20, 2009, 05:13:20 pm
your car is really coming along now jonny. cant wait to see it at pod. good colour choice for the wheels too.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: dubsport on January 20, 2009, 05:20:22 pm
You really arent hanging about, brilliant to see, can wait too see what the figure are if you get it back for the weekend ...

Keep the updates coming  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 20, 2009, 07:25:51 pm
Just a few add ons then mate... lol. Be interesting to see what she makes on the rollers, 360 I reckon. Where is it at?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 20, 2009, 07:28:35 pm
Just a few add ons then mate... lol. Be interesting to see what she makes on the rollers, 360 I reckon. Where is it at?

Yeah a couple of bits lol..

Well im really not sure, the DSG shifting at 6500 really cuts down the top end power figure, as the car will make power until around 7200rpm..

I agree though, I think the potential power of the engine is around 360BHP, but on the day, I think anything over 330hp and ill be happy  :happy2: :grin:

Its at XO Motorsport in Gateshead..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 20, 2009, 07:29:00 pm
The milltek isnt loud enough for me :driver:

 :surprised: :surprised:  Any louder and I'll need ear-defenders  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:  Or maybe I'm getting old and miserable  :laugh:

You and me both Illyun.........Grumpy Old Drivers... :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 21, 2009, 01:39:44 pm
The milltek isnt loud enough for me :driver:

 :surprised: :surprised:  Any louder and I'll need ear-defenders  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:  Or maybe I'm getting old and miserable  :laugh:

You and me both Illyun.........Grumpy Old Drivers... :grin: :grin: :grin:

We should do a ear-defender group buy for G.O.Ds like us  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Sorry, I'm hijacking the thread here with nonsense  :P

JonnyC, I thought your car was at VWR? My Ed30 is going in on Monday and I was worried that you might have the Racing Line demo car - Mark told me I could have a go on Monday  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 21, 2009, 02:03:54 pm
I may have to have something done at VWR just to drive this beast!!!!  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2009, 02:04:38 pm
Yeah my ED30 is in at VWR, I have the demo car at the moment but fingers crossed I should be picking up my car with all of the work completed on Friday, just depends on how long the diff fitting takes, all going well thought last time I heard

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 21, 2009, 05:14:46 pm
What's there demo car like mate (compared to yours especially)? Is it KO4 or bigger?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2009, 05:19:45 pm
Demo car is a K04 conversion, doesn't quite have the same spec as my car so in a straight line its not as quick but the chassis and diff make it much quicker down a twisty road..

Brakes are also awesome!!

Its still very quick, and im sure the guys at VW Racing have a lot more performance that could be unleashed if they wanted to  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: neg on January 21, 2009, 11:35:58 pm
You do really have a serious budget for doing this, really impressed mind you and loving reading the updates.

Who needs advertising - looks like VWR will be getting a fair bit of work from the reports on this forum alone.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2009, 11:44:01 pm
Credit where credit is due that's all..  :happy2:

I am spending a lot on the car but I love it, and im certainly not wasting my money on the car. I made an R8 owner feel very sad on the way to dropping the car off.. (and yes he was trying because I know him lol)

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 22, 2009, 12:10:43 am
Credit where credit is due that's all..  :happy2:

I am spending a lot on the car but I love it, and im certainly not wasting my money on the car. I made an R8 owner feel very sad on the way to dropping the car off.. (and yes he was trying because I know him lol)

Jonny

You're telling us you beat an R8?!  :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 12:26:22 am
Credit where credit is due that's all..  :happy2:

I am spending a lot on the car but I love it, and im certainly not wasting my money on the car. I made an R8 owner feel very sad on the way to dropping the car off.. (and yes he was trying because I know him lol)

Jonny

You're telling us you beat an R8?!  :surprised: :surprised:

Walked on it.. No BS, anyone that knows me knows that I dont BS about stuff like that..

I posted up something a while ago with my S3 vs. my friends 997 GT3 RS and no one believed it, even though it was plain to see..

There has been a fair few vids posted up in the past of similar high profile cars being beaten by Mk5's and S3 but no one can accept it as its only an S3. and that's a GT3 RS!!! How can it be possible type of thing lol..

Anyways ill shut up now before I get shot down lol..  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 22, 2009, 07:03:37 am
I 100% believe you. I know exactly how you feel...I have my fair share of similar stories (albeit most do not involve me driving the GTI), where much more expensive and faster cars have been beaten.

 :smiley:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 22, 2009, 08:45:59 am
Seems more than achievable to me. Jonny in his current state of tune will have roughly 280bhp/tonne, where as a R8 has 270bhp/tonne. Throw in the DSG changes over some dude that might be a bit slow on the stick, plus the fact that if the R8's are anything like the RS4, it probably won't be making the 414bhp it's stated to have anyway..
The R8 will always come past eventually at seriously high speed, but in a straight acceleration test i'd have my money on the Ed30..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on January 22, 2009, 09:21:14 am
wow...well done jonny! youll have to let me know where your private test track is! haha!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 22, 2009, 09:40:03 am
Yeah I can see that Jonny. I had a run in with an R8 when I had my Eddy. My car was running 330bhp and I stuck on his back bumper for a good while and I could tell he was gunning it because I could hear the lovely note of the V8 screaming. In your current state of tune I can easily see you leaving one...god knows what it is gonna be like when you bolt a big turbo on there  :laugh: :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 22, 2009, 10:35:25 am
I definetly believe you.. its just that I am literally amazed  :happy2:  What speed did you start of in and go up to? In km/h of course...  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:   and more importantly, how did you get all that power down on the tarmac?  Was it dry/wet and was it on a straight stretch of road?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 12:30:21 pm
Well it was from 20MPH in the dry and mine pulled from the start, and just kept on pulling.. All done on a private road and not once did we go over 70mph  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on January 22, 2009, 02:26:02 pm
well I agree I have never taken from any of your threads any BS, so dont worry about spilling the details here.
I assume the R8 was prob manual so wouldnt stand a chance against DSG power lol
Nice one  :happy2:
perhaps Ill avoid you at the 'pod  :driver: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 22, 2009, 03:19:44 pm
Factor in the fact that the R8 "only" has 317lbft and it becomes even clearer :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 03:23:02 pm
I'd still love an R8 to pose in though..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 22, 2009, 03:23:49 pm
I'd still love an R8 to pose in though..  :grin:

Yes, but by the time you'd finished with it it would have twin turbo's and 800+bhp  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 03:26:27 pm
Haha..The thing is, thats the reason I wont have a car like that for a long time.. M3, RS4 etc etc.. Just not enough things that you can play with on them.. I love the fact that the Golf is a great chassis with a seriously under tuned strong engine from the factory.. So so much potential!!

Performance increase per £ is huge in comparisson to say a new M3

Plus, while im still young I would much rather have a 500BHP Golf GTI than a standard M3, RS4 etc etc etc..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 22, 2009, 03:30:54 pm
I can't wait to see what times you get at the pod after the VWR upgrades :happy2:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 22, 2009, 03:31:27 pm
Haha..The thing is, thats the reason I wont have a car like that for a long time.. M3, RS4 etc etc.. Just not enough things that you can play with on them.. I love the fact that the Golf is a great chassis with a seriously under tuned strong engine from the factory.. So so much potential!!

Performance increase per £ is huge in comparisson to say a new M3

Plus, while im still young I would much rather have a 500BHP Golf GTI than a standard M3, RS4 etc etc etc..

how old are you>?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 03:34:18 pm
I can't wait to see what times you get at the pod after the VWR upgrades :happy2:

Yeah so am I, well I guess I will have pretty much taken the ed30 as far as you can go on the standard turbo with parts that are currently available, so its a good bench mark to see how it shapes up! Then! More powerrrrrrrrrrrrr haha..

how old are you>?  :smiley:

Im 22 mate..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on January 22, 2009, 03:49:53 pm
That makes me feel old,

Jonny up the Pod  -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.inmagine.com%2Fimg%2Fbilderlounge%2Fbl050%2F016338bl.jpg&hash=b6ecad5efab38f03dbab59b5b8dab8d212f6abe3)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 03:50:35 pm
That makes me feel old,

Jonny up the Pod  -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.inmagine.com%2Fimg%2Fbilderlounge%2Fbl050%2F016338bl.jpg&hash=b6ecad5efab38f03dbab59b5b8dab8d212f6abe3)

LMAO.. Here we go  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 22, 2009, 04:05:45 pm
I can't wait to see what times you get at the pod after the VWR upgrades :happy2:



I can't wait either  :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 22, 2009, 04:07:14 pm

how old are you>?  :smiley:

Im 22 mate..

Just a couple of digits away from me then... I'm 33  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 22, 2009, 04:38:18 pm
same here, i take it you work bloody hard then  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 22, 2009, 05:10:32 pm

how old are you>?  :smiley:

Im 22 mate..

Just a couple of digits away from me then... I'm 33  :signLOL:

me next...I'm 44 :confused:

All we need now is someone who is 55 and then RedRobin can put his straight after :evilgrin: :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 22, 2009, 05:12:51 pm
Im 21, hows the insurance for you jonny. Im paying silly money and im only running revo stg 2 and full milltek :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 07:33:16 pm
Im 21, hows the insurance for you jonny. Im paying silly money and im only running revo stg 2 and full milltek :sad:

Think its £900 ish with all the mods declared
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 22, 2009, 07:46:40 pm
Can you pm me who your insured with as im paying over 3k :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Toast on January 22, 2009, 07:47:19 pm
Thats good Jonny, I'm 23 and 800 a year :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2009, 07:48:21 pm
Can you pm me who your insured with as im paying over 3k :sad:

Done  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 24, 2009, 07:05:41 pm
Hey all..

Got the car back from VW Racing, again fantastic service etc and all the work has been completed to the highest standard!

No pics as yet but ill be doing a big update on all of the work completed over the next couple of days when I get a chance.

All I have to say is WOW!! The car is amazing now.. 100% transformed with the Diff as you would expect, really glad I went for this!

Got myself some more little jobs to do with the car before 'The Pod' but im confident that its going to put in some good times!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on January 24, 2009, 07:15:53 pm
Can you pm me who your insured with as im paying over 3k :sad:

Done  :happy2:

x2 pleeease  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 24, 2009, 07:20:17 pm
 Admiral  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gazbutS3 on January 24, 2009, 08:39:13 pm
Admiral  :happy2:

Hope you don't have a reason to claim if you are with admiral, had a nightmare with them a while ago when somebody hit me :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on January 24, 2009, 08:58:08 pm
Hi peeps new to the forum but this thread is awesome the work and effort youve put in jonny is amazing, great read and cant wait for the end product!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 24, 2009, 10:03:42 pm
same here, i take it you work bloody hard then  :happy2:

....I think that Jonny is a 22yo racing driver - He drives Aston Martins. I thought this was common knowledge.


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 24, 2009, 10:16:30 pm
Hey all..

Got the car back from VW Racing, again fantastic service etc and all the work has been completed to the highest standard!

No pics as yet but ill be doing a big update on all of the work completed over the next couple of days when I get a chance.

All I have to say is WOW!! The car is amazing now.. 100% transformed with the Diff as you would expect, really glad I went for this!

....No surprises about being happy with VWR :happy2:

The diff is a very underestimated mod and does seriously transform a FWD car.

There really wasn't anything meaningful to photograph when I was there on Thursday, except this! : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FJonnyCoker_KoniRustwater.jpg&hash=766e4bef1cb181a2898f9ae6be1c6234c0a20baa)

^ Water which was in your damper!


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 26, 2009, 01:27:06 pm
Update..

The car is fantastic now, already sent Mark from VWR the list of parts / work to be completed on the next visit!! So excited ha..

So I picked up the car on Friday from the VWR premises, the car had a fresh set of spark plugs, the engine had its first service and the car was corner weighted and set up! The car weighed in at 1330kg, with half a tank of fuel, so around 1310kg with a dry tank! I have calculated that I have removed just over 110kg from the car, so I was expecting the weight to now sit at around 1260kg, obviously its a little porkier from the factory than VW make out..

Also I had some lovely goodies fitted!

The Quaife ATB LSD diff is amazing, quite good fun leaving two fat black lines behind you!! The biggest difference is felt when exiting the corners, its amazing, but just as you would expect really, having had 1 wheel drive for so long, its nice to have both front tyres working for you at the same time! Also grip in a straight line is improved 100%!

There is no pulling when driving normally on steady throttle as the diff is a gear type and the only movement you feel is when your flat out over an un-even road, even then its really not a problem, this is a massively worth while mod, even for a standard car!

I had one of the front damper inserts replaced as it was soft (from new) its far better now, but still, im kind of waiting to see how long they last! Bit disappointed really, but you get what you pay for, and even the Koni dampers dont seem to be great! Not what you would expect from such a name..

I also had the VWR 'Race' lower engine mount fitted, this is amazing, for sure its not for everyone as its completely solid, so the vibrations are a little harsh on pulling away..

Picture shows the 'road' gearbox and engine mounts and the 'race' lower engine mount, there is a 'road' lower engine mount but as I already had the full VF engineering kit this wouldn't have really been a big step forward.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00227.jpg&hash=f9a3ef26fe8f7dea5960662b860b4db66758379e)

The fitting is a little more involved than any of the other lower engine mounts, the intermediate sub frame is dropped and the old insert is pressed out, then the new solid aluminum mount is pressed in.. there is ZERO movement now, the car is now amazingly precise and responsive on throttle, and forget about any wheel hop!!!

I had a Forge 'Twintercooler' kit delivered to VWR but unfortunately there wasn't quite time to fit it.. Its amazing piece of kit, really great finish, and from all of the reports I have read its going to make the car run much cooler, which should make some great increases in power and torque throughout the rev range! Ill write another update once I have this fitted, should be this week as I need it for Santa Pod this Sunday!!

I went for the black hoses to keep the subtle look. That core is going to look amazing behind the middle grille!! Very mean!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05181.jpg&hash=1ca3f2476900973f9dc2105730778e7ec82672f6)

The last few things that I had done at VWR was to remove the rear wiper from the car, this was for a couple of reasons. One I really like the look of it, makes the rear end much cleaner! And two it saves a bit of weight! Then I had the rear bumper bar removed, this is a really heavy steel bar which sits behind the rear bumper, it would prevent the bumper from cracking in a little hit, it plays no part in safety from rear impact etc, if it did then I wouldn't have removed it.. It weighed in at just over 10kg's so well worth removing!

(Excuse the dirty car)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05180.jpg&hash=e7535099143fe5119849b802c02f04afc987be03)

Oh! And.. Got myself a little more of the Gold heat tape and finished off the intake pipe! A custom heatshield is being made as we speak which should feature a bit more GOLDD! And im having a venturi cold air feed from a set of open fog light grilles made up too.. This should keep the filter nice and cool, and away from the radiant heat of the coolant pipes that it currently sits above..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05183.jpg&hash=5960ca4cbc0600fd531cfcc1a93aa7187cfaea45)

So that's about it for now really! Heres a couple of pics from the other day, a local meet.. Shows the car at the new ride height and you can just about spot the exhaust too.. Also gone back to the chrome VW badge, just looked too much having it all black on the front end, much happier with the look now!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC_0208.jpg&hash=324548dbcc1fa1971256302be39181dfe4ec679c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fblanked5.jpg&hash=d0f216f63f4ddeb1dad3b064cc2f0c6674b558bd)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fblanked4.jpg&hash=53df312b3bdca439b746dbb863cad9fedb552c25)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC_0196_HDR.jpg&hash=1eac55f0151c899d3e8624560f6b8014091be8ed)

Going to have a couple of little bits done this week for the Santa Pod meet, which ill keep a secret until then haha..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 26, 2009, 04:06:04 pm
Very nice pal.. When are the wheels getting sprayed? Thought that was happening whilst at VWR?  Did you get it on the rollers at the weekend?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 26, 2009, 04:09:27 pm
Very nice pal.. When are the wheels getting sprayed? Thought that was happening whilst at VWR?  Did you get it on the rollers at the weekend?

The RR day was canceled! As the RR stopped working correctly a couple of days prior to the event, really a shame as I was looking forward to finding out what the car was running with all of the latest mods..

In regards to the wheels I couldn't decide mate lol.. And with the plans for the 9" rims and 255/35/18's it seems a little daft to have mine painted up etc..

Anyways as a result of the above my wheels will be for sale, anyone who's interested let me know  :happy2:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on January 26, 2009, 04:17:24 pm
Jonny,

Let me see what these new brakes are going to cost me and I'll see if I can afford your wheels too? What's your timescale?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on January 26, 2009, 06:20:39 pm
WOW ,I'm amazed how much of a visual difference removing the rear wiper makes  :surprised:  :happy2:
Car looks stunning jonny, looks match the awesome mods.
(also interested in your wheels too ... lol)


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 26, 2009, 06:55:41 pm
Looking great Jonny. Can't wait to see it in the flesh on Sunday  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 27, 2009, 04:59:40 pm
jonny, is removing the rear wiper an easy job? also whered you get a bung to fit?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 05:09:23 pm
Update..

Hey all..

Parts for the Forge DV arrived this morning so I thought I would install it today and whilst I was there sort out the MAF heat shield and make a filter heat shield while I was at it..

I already had an Evoms heat shield sat in the garage, and after a lot of cutting up I managed to make it work with the custom intake system on my car, I'm pleased with how it fits now! I also used it as a mounting point for the N75 valve from the Forge DV, keeps it out of the way and looks nice and neat..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FForgeDV.jpg&hash=fa9bbd879ea1d410271aa4255e03a8b0deb0c1ed)

(This is a pic from when I had the Forge DV on my S3, I have mounted the N75 valve in a similar way)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05103.jpg&hash=c0eeaa120c49af2f39ee7086ecd9f385a0f75e62)

Once that was done I turned my attention onto the filter heat shield, as I said it required a lot of playing around with to make it fit, but now its in, and solid..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIntakeheatshield.jpg&hash=6453fbddd4a21f1f15eb9ad663b13308e83c8885)

Then I thought that I would neaten up the MAF heat shield. First of all I cleaned it all up and then wrapped the whole heat shield in Gold heat tape, apart from looking good this stuff really works well at keeping the heat out of where you dont want it!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIntakeMAFheatshield.jpg&hash=b7df4a12679b3f1a8d442440314f76d13e4cc6f6)

After a drive out in the car it definitely feels stronger as a result on the Forge DV being installed, seems to pull harder mid range and the throttle response has improved also. There was nothing wrong with the standard DV on inspection but for sure IMO the Forge DV holds boost more efficiently and as a result the car is even more mental than before!

Also all of the work with the heat shields now means that after a 30 minute blast everything was cold to the touch.

The finishing touch to the intake will be a 76mm Venturi cold air feed routed from an open fog grille on the passenger side, directly to the air filter..

I also have my Forge 'Twintercooler' to fit, then its going to be super cool!! Should really make a good difference!

On a side note has anyone installed one of the forge twin coolers? How long did it take you? Easy job?

Thanks

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 05:12:42 pm
jonny, is removing the rear wiper an easy job? also whered you get a bung to fit?

Im pretty sure it is yeah. It was done whilst the car was in at VWR though.. They had the bungs and did it all for me  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 27, 2009, 05:13:58 pm
jonny, is removing the rear wiper an easy job? also whered you get a bung to fit?

....I think that VWR did it for him [Jonny just confirmed this ^]. Rear wipers aren't needed on race cars. Personally, I wouldn't want to be without a rear wiper on a hatchback for road use but ETTO.

Race Polo : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FRED_VWR_Polo.jpg&hash=9c596d56969a0d8becf3e35c012587833afc4eb6)

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Merlinman on January 27, 2009, 05:17:01 pm
What's that scruffy 'pink' car doing on the lift?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 27, 2009, 05:18:54 pm
ive installed the S3 cooler on my gti, took me about 5 1/2 hours but i think i could do it in about 4 now. its pritty straight forward, front bumper and grill can be off in 15 mins, then its just taking you time and following any instructions, and also keeping track of all the screws that you take out  :ashamed:

i think the twintercooler ill be quicker(easier) than the S3 one as you will be keeping the std cooler. so not as much work. but if your doing this (and you obv aint strapped for cash) why not combine the S3 cooler with the forge twintercooler. they youl be verry cooooooooooooooool :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 05:22:24 pm
ive installed the S3 cooler on my gti, took me about 5 1/2 hours but i think i could do it in about 4 now. its pritty straight forward, front bumper and grill can be off in 15 mins, then its just taking you time and following any instructions, and also keeping track of all the screws that you take out  :ashamed:

i think the twintercooler ill be quicker(easier) than the S3 one as you will be keeping the std cooler. so not as much work. but if your doing this (and you obv aint strapped for cash) why not combine the S3 cooler with the forge twintercooler. they youl be verry cooooooooooooooool :scared:

Ok cool, so really if I set aside 4 hours for this then that should be enough as I dont have to remove the AC rad etc etc like you did.

Im having the S3 cooler installed also along with custom boost pipes when the car goes to forge next month but I need to get the twin cooler on now really as its running a lot of boost on the K04 and the ED30 cooler is maxed out..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 27, 2009, 05:30:34 pm
ive installed the S3 cooler on my gti, took me about 5 1/2 hours but i think i could do it in about 4 now. its pritty straight forward, front bumper and grill can be off in 15 mins, then its just taking you time and following any instructions, and also keeping track of all the screws that you take out  :ashamed:

i think the twintercooler ill be quicker(easier) than the S3 one as you will be keeping the std cooler. so not as much work. but if your doing this (and you obv aint strapped for cash) why not combine the S3 cooler with the forge twintercooler. they youl be verry cooooooooooooooool :scared:

Ok cool, so really if I set aside 4 hours for this then that should be enough as I dont have to remove the AC rad etc etc like you did.

Im having the S3 cooler installed also along with custom boost pipes when the car goes to forge next month but I need to get the twin cooler on now really as its running a lot of boost on the K04 and the ED30 cooler is maxed out..

Personally id just wait, and have it done together, but that me!

if your handy with a spanner and know your way around the mk5 well then id say you could get it done in 4 hours easily.

id also have a guide handy, i used the twintercooler gide, but worked out the rest. infact you could probs to the twincooler in about 3 hours.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 27, 2009, 05:35:41 pm
I need to get the twin cooler on now really as its running a lot of boost on the K04 and the ED30 cooler is maxed out..

....Is the maxing out manifesting itself in particular ways that you can feel are limiting your performance?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 05:38:45 pm
Personally id just wait, and have it done together, but that me!

if your handy with a spanner and know your way around the mk5 well then id say you could get it done in 4 hours easily.

id also have a guide handy, i used the twintercooler gide, but worked out the rest. infact you could probs to the twincooler in about 3 hours.

Thanks mate, I find it very hard to wait for anything but in this case Im really wanting to get it on for Sunday to get the most out of what I have!


....Is the maxing out manifesting itself in particular ways that you can feel are limiting your performance?

Only from the point of view that the IAT's are higher than they should be for best performance, and after sitting in traffic the car heat soaks badly and takes ages to recover from the heat soak.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 07:19:20 pm
What revo settings are you running?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 07:21:09 pm
B9 T7 F9 or possibly T6.. On stage 2+ with a de-cat 3" exhaust, it makes good boost..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 07:23:46 pm
Im running B7T7F9 and B7T6F9 if its a little warmer, as mine was pulling back timing on B9T6F9 at the last rr day.
Dont have the pump though and im running the gti milltek dp (2.75"), same as vtech. Seem to get good torque figures with that setup :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 07:26:07 pm
Yeah a lot of that will be down to the exhaust really, you need a 3" downpipe to run big boost. The 2.75" creates too much back pressure, thats why your making huge torque.. Depends what your after really though!

I woulnd't mind trading 100ft/lbs for 100hp top end..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 07:53:36 pm
Will be having 3" if i go custom as i could to with the torque dropping a touch so that my clutch will last a little longer :laugh:. Funny thing is vtech has identical mods and his car was fine with B9T6F9 on the same rrday.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 07:55:25 pm
Thats because the DSG has a torque limiter and will be pulling the car back, requested boost will be more than actual..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 08:00:32 pm
Oh i see, thanks for clearing that up. So with a 3" system i will lose torque but make bhp?
Think i fancy going decat to get a little more pop n bang :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 08:02:48 pm
You will probably gain both, but the torque will be higher up. And for sure you will feel a big difference top end..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 27, 2009, 08:04:30 pm
Oh i see, thanks for clearing that up. So with a 3" system i will lose torque but make bhp?
Think i fancy going decat to get a little more pop n bang :evilgrin:

compare mine and jonnys exhaust as we both have about the same  setup
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 27, 2009, 08:05:28 pm
Thats because the DSG has a torque limiter and will be pulling the car back, requested boost will be more than actual..

Not according to VAGCOM JC.. Been tested quite a few times now and requested an actual were bang on. About 1.5-1.6 bar IIRC..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 08:05:54 pm
Good stuff. Had a go straight line with my mate in his m3 csl and the cars were pretty much dead even. May go with pump, stage2 and 3"custom so i can whoop his ass lol :grin:
Wish i had a carbon fibre roof and one of the best sounding engines ever though :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 08:07:29 pm
Thats because the DSG has a torque limiter and will be pulling the car back, requested boost will be more than actual..

Not according to VAGCOM JC.. Been tested quite a few times now and requested an actual were bang on. About 1.5-1.6 bar IIRC..

Ah really, hmm.. Thats very interesting actually.. You definitely have a strong car! Or no DSG torque limit lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 08:08:36 pm
Good stuff. Had a go straight line with my mate in his m3 csl and the cars were pretty much dead even. May go with pump, stage2 and 3"custom so i can whoop his ass lol :grin:
Wish i had a carbon fibre roof and one of the best sounding engines ever though :sad:

I pulled 4 car lengths on my mates E92 M3 the other day in mine.. Quite amusing! CSL is sloooow.. You will take the piss once you have stage2 and a pump etc..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 08:16:23 pm
I think the only reason it was so close is the smg shifts quicker than the manual. Need a shortshift fitted too  :jumping:
Bens is definately a strong engine :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 27, 2009, 08:17:53 pm
but its more about a f in clutches  :sad: they just cant take it
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 08:26:11 pm
Mine still wont slip, when it does start doing it badly im going clutchmasters instead of vwr. Need to go flywheel too.
Did you get a flywheel and clutch from vwr matt?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 08:28:24 pm
Would be appropriate for me to gloat about the DSG??  :P Only joking..

Oh god, dont bother with clutch masters! :scared:

Yeah its a shame really, there is a fair few choices out there for clutches though. If I had a manual car again I would go for the South Bend stage 3 clutch kit. Comes with a solid lightweight flywheel and the clutch cover and drive plate are sachs parts, which are OEM manufactures for most of the german car companies..

Most of the big power cars are running South bend now, with good results!

I had the sachs cover and drive plate on the S3 with an OEM flywheel, the clutch was good but it was let down by the OEM dual mass flywheel which is sh*t!! No slip, but I just hate the feeling of a DMF..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 27, 2009, 08:28:41 pm
Thats because the DSG has a torque limiter and will be pulling the car back, requested boost will be more than actual..

Not according to VAGCOM JC.. Been tested quite a few times now and requested an actual were bang on. About 1.5-1.6 bar IIRC..
Or no DSG torque limit lol..

Definately have that mate.. Ask Hurdy, he experienced it today when I met him for a quick coffee. If I run B7 T7 F9 it pulls like a bitch top end, but then after every change I get a hideous pause in power..  :sad: The only settings I can run to get rid of that (well 80% of it), is B9 T6 F9. Just a bit aggresive for the greasy roads at min, so have to be gentle on the throttle..  :laugh:

If we get chance on sunday Jonny, I wouldn't mind a ride out in each others car. You will see what I mean then..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 27, 2009, 08:29:42 pm
Thats because the DSG has a torque limiter and will be pulling the car back, requested boost will be more than actual..

Not according to VAGCOM JC.. Been tested quite a few times now and requested an actual were bang on. About 1.5-1.6 bar IIRC..
Or no DSG torque limit lol..

Definately have that mate.. Ask Hurdy, he experienced it today when I met him for a quick coffee. If I run B7 T7 F9 it pulls like a bitch top end, but then after every change I get a hideous pause in power..  :sad: The only settings I can run to get rid of that (well 80% of it), is B9 T6 F9. Just a bit aggresive for the greasy roads at min, so have to be gentle on the throttle..  :laugh:

If we get chance on sunday Jonny, I wouldn't mind a ride out in each others car. You will see what I mean then..

Sure mate.. :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 27, 2009, 08:30:03 pm
Mine still wont slip, when it does start doing it badly im going clutchmasters instead of vwr. Need to go flywheel too.
Did you get a flywheel and clutch from vwr matt?

vw racing use stock flywheel and pressure plate just a better friction plate as they have tested the stuff to death
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 27, 2009, 08:31:43 pm
Bens is definately a strong engine :evilgrin:
No stronger then yours mate according to Prosports rollers.. Well apart from that bogus 373bhp run of mine..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 08:38:49 pm
LOL according to those rollers im 1bhp up on you :grin:
Matt how much will all the clutch bits from vwr cost?
Fitting would be around £150 i remember you saying?
Sorry for hijacking the thread jonny :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 27, 2009, 08:51:11 pm
What you got 374bhp???  :grin: Thought you got 331, same as my first run? Both felt very similar and strong on the road to be fair.. Just just hops everywhere...  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 27, 2009, 08:56:36 pm
No i meant the 331 run. Thats when yours made 326 so thats 5bhp more.
Think i will kick your ass at pod now :grin:
Only joking, i think you and jonnyc will be the top2 :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 27, 2009, 11:30:56 pm
No i meant the 331 run. Thats when yours made 326 so thats 5bhp more.
Think i will kick your ass at pod now :grin:
Only joking, i think you and jonnyc will be the top2 :happy2:
I think Jonny will be in a league of his own and leave the rest of us to fight it out for ourselves. But going of his spec now, it's hardly suprising.. That thinkg will run mid 12's in the right conditions i'm sure.. :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 27, 2009, 11:32:48 pm
But can Jonny fight the nerves and handle all 340ish of his horses!!? I suppose DSG makes his life a hell of a lot easier!

I think at the moment, with my lack of traction and clutch control a 1.0 Corsa would have me at the lights!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 27, 2009, 11:39:54 pm
But can Jonny fight the nerves and handle all 340ish of his horses!!?
And the rest.... :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 28, 2009, 12:11:12 am
Well don't worry guys, I'll probably make a fool of myself as I've never done a run on a track before  :happy2:  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2009, 12:25:44 am
But can Jonny fight the nerves and handle all 340ish of his horses!!? I suppose DSG makes his life a hell of a lot easier!

I should manage yeah.. :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 28, 2009, 01:15:08 am

I would like 450BHP with around 350ft/lbs, you would be very surprised, a well set up FWD car with high quality plate type LSD and sticky tyres can cope with that power no trouble at all, its the torque and sudden boost that will break traction, so its all in the tuning really  :smiley:

Jonny

Speaking to Mark from VWR today, I asked about the torque limit of the DSG gearbox and he was quite certain that you can't push it beyond 295 ft/lbs (400nm) without clutch slip,  As for the uprated DSG clutch packs, he wasn't too sure about whether they worked well or not  :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 28, 2009, 08:40:16 am
Ilyun, mine has been running 360lb/ft+ for over 25,000 miles and nearly a year. Hasn't slipped once... Touch wood.  :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 28, 2009, 09:38:17 am
Speaking to Mark from VWR today, I asked about the torque limit of the DSG gearbox and he was quite certain that you can't push it beyond 295 ft/lbs (400nm) without clutch slip,  As for the uprated DSG clutch packs, he wasn't too sure about whether they worked well or not  :sad:

....I'm going to stick my neck out here and suggest, based on my own conversations with Mark, that he meant that to push DSG beyond 300 ft lb / 400 Nm increases the risk of clutch slip.

Regarding the uprated DSG clutch packs, he's probably unsure because VWR haven't 'driven them to death' yet (as far as I know). I've noticed that VWR/RL are very cautious about fully supporting a product for the public until they have very thoroughly tested it themselves, but then they stand behind it 200%.

HTH :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 28, 2009, 11:29:02 am
I think your comments are spot on there Robin.  I spoke to Mark regarding DSG software upgrades and he said that they hadn't been tested properly and that they could potentially damage a customer car so they weren't going to release it just yet... he then said, oh but the race cars have been running the software at extreme conditions for a while now and there haven't been any issues.  I gathered from this, that VWR test every publically available mod to death before they approve it  :happy2:  As for pushing dsg beyond 400nm increasing the risk of clutch slip rather than guaranteeing clutch slip, I think thats what he meant - i.e. that it increases the likelihood.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 28, 2009, 11:33:17 am
Sorry Jonny, we're hijacking your thread here and making ourselves at home  :signLOL:   BTW,VWR are fitting the race-spec aluminium engine mounts to my car and top mounts as I was screaming out for a nice bit of negative camber after driving the test car... to hell with the front tyres... although Mark said it should have too much of an effect and that people overstate the amount of tyre wear you get on the fronts.  Having said that, in terms of the improved handling which is like night and day, its well worth the trade off for my own car.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 28, 2009, 11:40:29 am
I gathered from this, that VWR test every publically available mod to death before they approve it  :happy2:

....I don't think they test every publicly available mod, but rather only the mods which they feel are relevant/appropriate to their needs.

Sorry if I seem picky over your words but I'm just doing what I can to clarify things as I understand them.

[Again, I have no vested interest in VWR/RL but I am a "fanboy" because my experiences have been nothing but excellent and I've grown to know their ethos]

Off to Wales now! :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 28, 2009, 11:48:40 am
LOL... every mod that they make publically available! Not every pubically available mod that is out there!  Sorry... that did sound very ambigious - not sure whats happenned to me this morning  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 28, 2009, 11:53:47 am


[Again, I have no vested interest in VWR/RL but I am a "fanboy" because my experiences have been nothing but excellent and I've grown to know their ethos]

Off to Wales now! :happy2:

To date I have not had a better experience with a garage than with VWR - just awesome... very approachable, great customer service even though their primary focus is motorsport and expertise thats second to none as far as fast VWs are concerned.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2009, 11:33:58 pm
Got a little mod today fitted today..  :wink:

Think ill save it for Sunday though lol..

Here's a teaser..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_5123cropped.jpg&hash=8af915f9d196d9e66b50e3418067743a0fd81125)

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 28, 2009, 11:38:37 pm
R888 ?  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 28, 2009, 11:40:36 pm
Got a little mod today fitted today..  :wink:

Think ill save it for Sunday though lol..

Here's a teaser..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_5123cropped.jpg&hash=8af915f9d196d9e66b50e3418067743a0fd81125)



CF alloys?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: wigit on January 28, 2009, 11:42:19 pm
pray for rain boys :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2009, 11:43:51 pm
R888 ?  :driver:

Yessss..  :laugh:

CF alloys?

No  :sad:



pray for rain boys :)

 :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 28, 2009, 11:47:13 pm
 8) get them run in asap  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: wigit on January 28, 2009, 11:49:41 pm
weather report is  looking good jonnyc  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 28, 2009, 11:52:30 pm
....

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/R888.htm
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 29, 2009, 01:16:48 am
I was going to get a pair of Michelin Pilot Cup Sports for the fronts but decided against as its going to be very cold... Got some Michelin Pilot Sports all round though.  :evilgrin:  Not as grippy as the Toyos though  :sad:  But then again, how good are they in this weather?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 29, 2009, 07:26:59 am
^^^^
Hi illyun, I notice that "VWR Race Engine Mounts" are listed in your sig - I don't want to hijack this thread, so have you posted your thoughts about them anywhere?

Thanks,
Robin
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 29, 2009, 08:36:43 am
I was going to get a pair of Michelin Pilot Cup Sports for the fronts but decided against as its going to be very cold... Got some Michelin Pilot Sports all round though.  :evilgrin:  Not as grippy as the Toyos though  :sad:  But then again, how good are they in this weather?

My PS2's have gone right off now mate, so I certainly won't be shooting of he line in a great hurry.. :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 29, 2009, 10:18:14 am
^^^^
Hi illyun, I notice that "VWR Race Engine Mounts" are listed in your sig - I don't want to hijack this thread, so have you posted your thoughts about them anywhere?

Thanks,
Robin

Nope, because the car only had them put on yesterday and its still at VWR  :happy2:  However, the demo car is nothing short of awesome.  Its mods combine together to produce the perfect GTI.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 29, 2009, 10:38:01 am
I was going to get a pair of Michelin Pilot Cup Sports for the fronts but decided against as its going to be very cold... Got some Michelin Pilot Sports all round though.  :evilgrin:  Not as grippy as the Toyos though  :sad:  But then again, how good are they in this weather?

My PS2's have gone right off now mate, so I certainly won't be shooting of he line in a great hurry.. :sad:


Oh well... maybe the new Quaife I've had fitted will help a bit  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 29, 2009, 11:42:22 am
A nice big burnout will get plenty of temperature into them!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on January 29, 2009, 11:47:43 am
Are we allowed to see a sneak peek of these rims then, Jonny?

Go on....
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 29, 2009, 11:48:19 am
A nice big burnout will get plenty of temperature into them!  :happy2:

How to you do that with DSG?  I'm guessing that I lock the handbrake upto the max, put the car into S and give it some on the accelerator?!  Honestly haven't a clue.  And what does that do to the handbrake?  :confused:  I wonder how much they cost to replace - is it the handbrake cable that eventually goes?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 29, 2009, 11:49:51 am
I know what rims they are :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 29, 2009, 11:51:11 am
I know what rims they are :wink:

your old one  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on January 29, 2009, 11:51:41 am
One of the first things I need to do this summer is book a few lessons with a performance driving instructor - I think Robin took some a couple of years back and from what he said they were well worth it.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 29, 2009, 12:00:57 pm
I know what rims they are :wink:

your old one  :P
Are they?  :grin: :grin: :grin: So that'll be two white Ed30s with gloss black TD's ripping up the strip then.. Albeit one a lot faster than the other..  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 29, 2009, 12:03:04 pm
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 29, 2009, 12:03:40 pm
:happy2:

The man has taste eh Luca?  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 29, 2009, 12:04:06 pm
:happy2:

told you so  :P i am watching  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 29, 2009, 12:07:09 pm
Definately got good taste :happy2:
Matt spoilt his secret though :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 29, 2009, 12:08:51 pm
Definately got good taste :happy2:
Matt spoilt his secret though :grin:

 :embarrassed: they look matt finished to me now
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 29, 2009, 12:11:26 pm
Definately got good taste :happy2:
Matt spoilt his secret though :grin:

Booooo Hiiissss  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 29, 2009, 12:12:07 pm
I know he might be doing something custom to them but unsure what :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on January 29, 2009, 12:12:42 pm
Ahh - a look at the "solds" in the classifieds might have been a hint.

I wonder who the Speedlines are going to........?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 29, 2009, 12:13:57 pm
come on jonny pics now  :P u have been rumbled  :innocent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on January 29, 2009, 12:15:43 pm
PICS PICS PICS :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 29, 2009, 12:16:55 pm
if they look like the one that guy has on his in dubai they will look  8)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 29, 2009, 01:35:54 pm
So much for the secret haha..

Ill get some pics up later on!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 29, 2009, 06:29:54 pm
Hey all..

No pics yet, just had to f*ck about with the arches for the last couple of hours to make them fit without rubbing too much.

The car needs to be raised up all round as the 235/40/18 R888 tyre is actually 242mm wide, that works out a just over 20mm wider than the Yoko Parada 225/40/18 and the side wall is 5mm taller!

The car is obviously on adjustable coils but adjusting them in the dark in windy 2 degrees weather.. I think not! So it going to get done tomorrow, up 8mm at the front and 10mm at the rear. Also ill go up again on the stiffness of the rear shocks. They needed that doing anyways but it should help with the rubbing on compression.

Apart from that. The grip is amazing! As you would expect..

Tried a little 'simulation' earlier and it fully hooked up from 20mph.. Think we could be on for a good time this weekend all being well!  :happy2:

Also Twincooler is getting fitted tomorrow.. That should really help too! Not with traction lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on January 29, 2009, 08:03:52 pm
Great thread Jonny,  :happy2:

How does it compare to the S3 at present?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 29, 2009, 08:55:36 pm
Great thread Jonny,  :happy2:

How does it compare to the S3 at present?

Lots faster.. and I mean LOTS..  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 29, 2009, 08:58:09 pm
not as much power wasted in the haldex  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 29, 2009, 09:10:47 pm
not as much power wasted in the haldex  :smiley:

Thats it mate.. The figures are quite interesting actually.. ehemm..

S3 makes roughly 420bhp (300WHP) Weight of 1450kg so it works out as 207WHP/Ton

ED makes around 360BHP, although it could be a little more. Thats around 323WHP. Weighing in at 1250KG (at the moment) that works out to 258WHP/Ton..

Thats why its fast  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 30, 2009, 09:59:52 am
thats a massive loss  :surprised: but who needs 4mo  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Leeds s3 on January 30, 2009, 03:01:07 pm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm stop this thread, its tempting me to chop in my s3 for an ed30.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 30, 2009, 05:14:03 pm
^^^^
Yes, it was the tyre grip I was referring to.

Swings and roundabouts regarding GTI and S3 methinks - Both great cars but in different ways.

:happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Leeds s3 on January 30, 2009, 05:20:37 pm
very true as stated i felt the golf looked better but the 4wd and bigger brakes etc swung the audi.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on January 30, 2009, 07:20:29 pm
basically the 32 then? its a bit porky with the vr6 compared to a 2tFSI but surely its the closest comparison to the s3 in the golf range?
im sure a charger would take care of that   :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on February 02, 2009, 01:05:15 pm
But can Jonny fight the nerves and handle all 340ish of his horses!!? I suppose DSG makes his life a hell of a lot easier!

I should manage yeah.. :happy2:

Now that I know what you do, I feel slightly silly for posting the above comment!  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

Shame I didn't get to talk to you yesterday, we have a few things in common!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 02, 2009, 01:14:15 pm
haha dont worry about it mate..

Ahh.. Im intrigued, drop me a pm mate..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on February 03, 2009, 02:13:35 pm
You got a good time at Santa Pod mate and I'm sure that with a lighter car and moderately warmer weather around 15-18C, your Toyos might help you get an even better time.  Hopefully, my humble Ed30 will be able to join the exclusive under-13's club next time  :evilgrin:  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 03, 2009, 11:04:49 pm
Great thread jonny, just read the whole thing  :happy2:

Your have good thiking regarding this car, similar lines to what I have done, whats your thougts on a big turbo?

Ive recently gone the water/meth route to give the 2871R a higher yield, although cant beat a k03/k04 on spooling times :)

Love the weeight saving techniques, not sure I could lose all that comfort and sound dampending though, as mines still a daily commuting machine :)

How do you find the vibrations from the engine mounts?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on February 04, 2009, 08:13:03 am
Jonny as said on SCN; read the thread yesterday and so impressed  :happy2:
How long you keeping this one?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2009, 11:18:30 am
Great thread jonny, just read the whole thing  :happy2:

Your have good thiking regarding this car, similar lines to what I have done, whats your thougts on a big turbo?

Ive recently gone the water/meth route to give the 2871R a higher yield, although cant beat a k03/k04 on spooling times :)

Love the weeight saving techniques, not sure I could lose all that comfort and sound dampending though, as mines still a daily commuting machine :)

How do you find the vibrations from the engine mounts?

Thanks mate..

Im really not sure on the big turbo route at the minute, the car is very quick, producing around the 370hp mark at the moment, so im going to get the weight down as much as possible first, see what I think and then make the call..

Big turbo is certainly a trade off between instant response and low down torque for top end power!

The car comfort really isn't being compromised, apart from the rear seats and AC being removed etc.. Neither of which bother me, as I will use the AC maybes a couple of times a year, and never have people in the back anyways..

The boot and rear area will be covered with a sound deadening material such as Dynamat soon, then a custom carpet is being made up by Justmatz to keep it all looking nice and neat..

The engine/gearbox/pendulum mount set up that I have on my car is pretty extreme, as I have said on another thread you definitely trade off comfort for performance in this area. The stiffer they are the better the traction, wheel hop, shift times, throttle response and overall composure of the car..

Jonny as said on SCN; read the thread yesterday and so impressed  :happy2:
How long you keeping this one?

Thanks again!

The original plan with this car was to have it until the start of the summer and then I was going to get myself something really nice.. I dont think that I can do it though! I love the car so much, and there is still a huge amount of things that Im wanting to alter, so really I think another year probably.. At least until the end of the summer..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 04, 2009, 11:37:07 am
^^^^
Brilliant and perfect sig, Jonny! :happy2: 8) :happy2:

Am glad that VWR satisfied you - Mark is a top bloke!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on February 04, 2009, 12:21:50 pm
Jonny make sure you speak to me first if your thinking of selling :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2009, 12:22:35 pm
Will do.. Be ready, as I change my mind very quickly lol..  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on February 04, 2009, 01:02:47 pm
Im in 2 minds whether to keep the golf and mod it further or get something different around winter time.
Jonny what car are you thinking of next?
I really like the tt rs but the its not worth £45k imo
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2009, 02:22:56 pm
Im in 2 minds whether to keep the golf and mod it further or get something different around winter time.
Jonny what car are you thinking of next?
I really like the tt rs but the its not worth £45k imo

Either a Scirocco or a TT-S.. Cant really decide

I love the idea of the TT-RS too, but I agree, 45k is madness for a TT!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on February 04, 2009, 03:00:27 pm
the revo tt looked really nice at pod
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Leeds s3 on February 04, 2009, 03:08:15 pm
wont the tt-s just be like going back to the s3? (unless you go for the s tronic)

How about a heavily tuned 335i ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2009, 03:13:33 pm
Yeah thats my only worry really, and a Scirocco would be too similar to the Golf really..

Anyways I dont want to think of my next car already lol!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on February 04, 2009, 03:23:39 pm
m3 m3 m3 m3! supercharged rs4? hmmmm
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Leeds s3 on February 04, 2009, 03:24:57 pm
Agreed as soon as i buy one im looking at the next but given the current climate i need to hold fire.

335i with csl wheels, tubi exhaust, kw's and remap mmmmm
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 04, 2009, 03:32:48 pm
I think you'll do well to go quicker mate, full stop unless you go daft with something, or buy something exotic, or an Ariel Atom.. :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2009, 03:36:54 pm
Thats the thing really.. Anyways back to the Golf..

Ill post an update v soon of the latest mods fitted to the car and how they performed on the Santa Pod day!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on February 05, 2009, 08:00:22 am
Jonny make sure you speak to me first if your thinking of selling :wink:


I was going to say that, you beat me to it.
Seriously though i'd have it. Missed the sale of the S3.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on February 05, 2009, 03:53:20 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Let the bidding war begin  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 08, 2009, 11:56:05 am
Hey all..

Been a while since I last posted an update so thought I would bring things up to date!

So not really much more has gone on with the car since the last update, got the Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 wheels off Luca (cheers for those mate) and stuck a set of 235/40/18 Toyo R888 tyres on them! Absolutely stunning, massive grip in all weather conditions!! And they look mean as hell too!

I then went around the car and paid some attention to lots of little things that I had been meaning to do for a while!.. The engine way needed sorting out, I got myself some more of the gold heat reflecting tape and finished off the intake pipe, had a real mess around with an old Evoms filter heatshield that I had lying around in the garage and managed to make that work really nicely with the custom intake that I have on the car. And then got around to fitting the venturi cold air feed system..

I also got around to fitting the Forge 'Twintercooler' apart from looking great, not into big obvious front mounts on show, but I think you can just seen enough of this one to give it a nice purposeful look! It really performs great! The car feels much stronger mid range, and top end the power feels more relentless, I will be adding an S3 cooler too, with some custom hard pipes, hopefully this should set me up nicely for the BT!

I dont have any data but the intake etc feels a lot cooler since the intercooler, also the throttle response seems to be more eager, and when it comes on boost, its really solid, all the way to the red line! I would highly recommend this to anyone with an ED30 as the K04 really benefits from the extra cooling!!

Heres some pics of the engine bay now, really pleased with the results, much cooler to the touch, and noticeably less heat soak, in fact, I haven't noticed any since doing these latest bits!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FVAGocSantaPod462.jpg&hash=5543e400e84b56db2701b2e13d3bd4bf0b20c912)

This pic shows the cold air feed.. Cut a 4" hole with a cutter tool, and have the venturi sat behind it, nice and neat and really gets a load of fresh air into the air filter!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FVAGocSantaPod238.jpg&hash=47b84dce3979583d7367b9ff99beafc63f618142)

Other than that the car was ready for Santa Pod, I was very happy with the results from the day! I know that there is more in the car, but the conditions on the day were far from perfect! Im pretty confident that on the right day, the car is capable of a mid 12 second run in its current guise! Pretty impressive I thought considering its on a standard turbo etc etc..

You can see the Forge 'Twintercooler' really nicely in this shot, looks great I think!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FVAGocSantaPod431.jpg&hash=734dc5fe377dd89a385b3b19b02d8452d9c25fe8)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FVAGocSantaPod440.jpg&hash=9a6a422346f3d573f736a59c4318bf0ed52a3121)

So had a really good time at Santa Pod, I did 4 runs over the course of the day, between the snow storms etc.. haha.. Had some problems with engaging the launch control after doing the burn out, but I ended up with a 12.98 @ 118.60MPH. Not bad for a standard turbo and road legal tyres!!

Heres a couple of vids of the runs..

Me vs. GT3071R S3 (1-0 Audi)



Me vs. GT3071R S3 again! (1-1 GTI) haha..



Heres my best run of the day, I had no launch control on this run, so I got a shi**y 60ft time, but a 12 second run never the less!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft245%2Fjamiekip%2FSanta%2520Pod%2Fth_JClaunchissue.jpg&hash=c0bc039697781321a0abcb81691597c3ec763278) (http://s162.photobucket.com/albums/t245/jamiekip/Santa%20Pod/?action=view&current=JClaunchissue.flv)

Until the next time!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on February 08, 2009, 12:14:50 pm
Looking good... those holes in the lower grill are an excellent idea and look OEM  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 08, 2009, 12:51:07 pm
Damn I gotta get some of those Pro race 1.2's  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 08, 2009, 02:15:00 pm
You need some 235/40/18's. they make the little 8" rims look a hell of a lot more purposeful!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 08, 2009, 02:22:12 pm
yes.. yes i do  :laugh:

OK where can I get some cheap pro race 1.2's in black  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 08, 2009, 02:30:58 pm
yes.. yes i do  :laugh:

OK where can I get some cheap pro race 1.2's in black  :jumpmove:

Erm, wherever mate! There pretty cheap.. Halfords are the main UK retailer believe it or not..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on February 08, 2009, 02:55:20 pm
yes.. yes i do  :laugh:

OK where can I get some cheap pro race 1.2's in black  :jumpmove:

Dan you can have Jonny's, when he finally gets brave and stuns us with his carbon rims.  :party: :party: :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 08, 2009, 03:02:27 pm
yes.. yes i do  :laugh:

OK where can I get some cheap pro race 1.2's in black  :jumpmove:

Dan you can have Jonny's, when he finally gets brave and stuns us with his carbon rims.  :party: :party: :party:

When you say 'brave' to you mean "wins the lottery"? lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on February 08, 2009, 03:13:05 pm
dnt want to clog this thread but i might be able to get the team dynamics for around 500-520 any colour 18s and different colour lip for an extra 40 a set. wil start a seperate thread once i get the prices.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on February 08, 2009, 03:46:01 pm
Loving the progress Jonny. Can't wait to see it go with the big turbo on  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 08, 2009, 03:56:40 pm
ok with the 235/40's you run, is the difference basically a bit more rubber on the road? I take it your wheels are 18x8?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 08, 2009, 04:18:04 pm
ok with the 235/40's you run, is the difference basically a bit more rubber on the road? I take it your wheels are 18x8?

Yeah, much larger contact patch. Plus the 235 R888's are actually 242m wide compared to the 225 yokohamas which are which were around 220mm wide.. There also a little taller, around 5mm per side wall

Yeah they are 18x8
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on February 09, 2009, 09:10:20 am
Awesome Jonny. Vids look good.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on February 13, 2009, 10:06:08 pm
top effort jonny

new turbo installed = cover of PVW??? they should be doing a mk5 madness issue soon enough  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 02:55:26 pm
top effort jonny

new turbo installed = cover of PVW??? they should be doing a mk5 madness issue soon enough  :party:

Yeah could be cool to get the car on a cover of a mag, most have my cars have had features but never a cover..

Anyways a quick update on things!

I have decided to go BT on the GTI, the problem that I had was wanting something a little different, but at the moment with there being hardly any options out there I was forced to go down the custom route!

Im pretty close now to deciding the final spec on the Manifold, turbo and wastegate set-up.. All of the parts have been specced specifically to make the engine perform exactly how I want it to..

I want a smooth delivery, no sudden burst of torque and a load of top end power! The numbers will be around 350ft/lbs tq and 450 crank HP at around 7500RPM. So less torque than the K04 turbo, thats intentional, its the torque I dont want, the power is going to make this car fast, top end its going to be stunning im sure!!

The turbo spec will give me the option of raising power to around the 550 crank HP mark with low compression pistons and water/meth injection with more boost top end, really this is going to be a stage 2 for the car, ill see how the DSG 'box is coping with the 'stage 1' set-up and go from there. All indications have been pretty positive from around the world, there are plenty of BT DSG cars running around with not one problem to date!

All of the parts will be pretty much custom, and a lot of them motorsport specific, WRC spec turbo parts, billet compressor wheels, stainless steel compressor housings, Ti and Inconel exhaust parts, ceramic cating etc etc.. Its going to be pretty nice!

Anyways, I should have a date set in the next week as to when the car will be going in, cant wait!

On top of all of that I still have a load of weight to come out of the car from the following being changed..

RECARO POLE POSITION FRONT SEATS
REMOVE FOG LIGHTS AND HEADLIGHT WASHERS
POSSIBLY CARBON FRONT END
AC REMOVED
VWR BRAKES
MISC SOUND DEADENING REMOVAL

Depending on the carbon parts this should be another 125+KG off the base weight.. I also have some more extreme plans for the weight saving to compliment the 'Stage 2' engine work.. Really not decided on this but the aim would be to get the weight of the car down to 1100KG

Just to put all of that into some numbers and give you an idea of just how fast this is going to be!..

My car at Santa Pod was running 1300KG and 360BHP so roughly 278HP/Ton

With the turbo kit and the extra weight saving I should be looking at a power to weight ratio of around 383HP/Ton with 'Stage 2' seeing just over 500HP/Ton

I know your probably thinking, 450HP.. FWD.. Its never going to work! Never mind 550BHP!! Well, it will, im not just going power hungry on this car, there is a hell of a lot of attention being paid to the chassis, and all the time things are improving on that side, plus with the way the car will be mapped, and the power delivery being so smooth and progressive it will be more than manageable!

Im waiting also on some prototype front wings and rear arch work so that I can fit the 265/30/18 R888 tyres with the 9" wide wheels, this will make a huge difference in controlling the power..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on February 14, 2009, 03:45:49 pm
Just slip your arms into the sleeves Jonny, don't be worried... yes, I know the fastenings on the back are unusual....

Legend.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on February 14, 2009, 04:56:26 pm
This car is really going to be something special  :drool:

Stage 1 is going to be nuts with the BT but stage 2 sounds incredible. I like that you have made sure that the chassis is capable of handling the power. There are many cars out there running huge turbos with impressive power figures but the reality is that most of these cant handle the power. When it is all done yours will be able to eat alive most things on the road and it will be just as impressive on the track. Keep up the good work Jonny  :happy2:

I know this maybe a bit cheeky but a ride out in her at a meet would be brilliant. I would really like to see and feel how this thing goes  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 04:58:20 pm
This car is really going to be something special  :drool:

Stage 1 is going to be nuts with the BT but stage 2 sounds incredible. I like that you have made sure that the chassis is capable of handling the power. There are many cars out there running huge turbos with impressive power figures but the reality is that most of these cant handle the power. When it is all done yours will be able to eat alive most things on the road and it will be just as impressive on the track. Keep up the good work Jonny  :happy2:

I know this maybe a bit cheeky but a ride out in her at a meet would be brilliant. I would really like to see and feel how this thing goes  :happy2:

Sure mate, on the next event ill take you out in the car. Should have the bits done fairly soon hopefully!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on February 14, 2009, 05:01:39 pm
This car is really going to be something special  :drool:

Stage 1 is going to be nuts with the BT but stage 2 sounds incredible. I like that you have made sure that the chassis is capable of handling the power. There are many cars out there running huge turbos with impressive power figures but the reality is that most of these cant handle the power. When it is all done yours will be able to eat alive most things on the road and it will be just as impressive on the track. Keep up the good work Jonny  :happy2:

I know this maybe a bit cheeky but a ride out in her at a meet would be brilliant. I would really like to see and feel how this thing goes  :happy2:

Cool, thats really nice of you matey  :happy2:

Sure mate, on the next event ill take you out in the car. Should have the bits done fairly soon hopefully!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on February 14, 2009, 05:02:11 pm
Have to say Jonny, you don't hold back... the project is looking truely awesome  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on February 14, 2009, 05:30:07 pm
Not sure this info is useful but the complete standard brake set up weighs 49kgs.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 05:33:28 pm
Not sure this info is useful but the complete standard brake set up weighs 49kgs.

Very useful mate! Thanks very much for that, I have been trying to find that out for a long time actually.. Its amazing how heavy they are!!

I know the VWR brakes save 18KG's, and of course all of that is un sprung and a lot of it is in the disk, which is rotational mass which is equivalent to 4x static weight loss..

Brakes next!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on February 14, 2009, 05:40:51 pm
I was expecting them to be heavy but at nearly 50kgs!  :laugh:

On the plus side, theres plenty of weight saving to be had.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 05:48:47 pm
I was expecting them to be heavy but at nearly 50kgs!  :laugh:

On the plus side, theres plenty of weight saving to be had.  :happy2:

Just to confirm, is that just the front brakes or the rears too??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 14, 2009, 06:07:35 pm
....

Each VW stock front brake assembly weighs 15.10 Kg, so fronts would weigh 30.20 Kg - This info isn't out of any text book either online or otherwise - It's physically weighing them at AP Racing's works in Coventry.

Dunno about the stock rears.

HTH :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 06:09:12 pm
....

Each VW stock front brake assembly weighs 15.10 Kg, so fronts would weigh 30.20 Kg - This info isn't out of any text book either online or otherwise - It's physically weighing them at AP Racing's works in Coventry.

Dunno about the stock rears.

HTH :happy2:

Cheers, all good info!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on February 14, 2009, 06:49:23 pm
The stock front and rear is 49kgs, thats calipers, pads, carriers and discs.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 06:54:35 pm
The stock front and rear is 49kgs, thats calipers, pads, carriers and discs.  :happy2:

Thanks again..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 14, 2009, 07:04:38 pm
I'll race ya jonny  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 07:06:13 pm
I'll race ya jonny  :evilgrin:

I can't wait  :wink:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on February 14, 2009, 07:07:13 pm
I'm in awe at how your project is going! Its great to see someone fully mod a GTI like this in this country.  :smiley: :smiley:

I would ask for a quick ride also, but I have a feeling there will literally be a queue haha!!  :grin: :grin: :laugh:

Thanks for keeping us updated Jonny!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 14, 2009, 07:09:31 pm

Im waiting also on some prototype front wings and rear arch work so that I can fit the 265/30/18 R888 tyres with the 9" wide wheels, this will make a huge difference in controlling the power..

Jonny

First dibs at your old wheels mate :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on February 14, 2009, 09:59:55 pm
I'll take the r888's if your getting rid of the wheels :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 14, 2009, 10:30:17 pm
I'll take the r888's if your getting rid of the wheels :happy2:

i was planning to have those  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 14, 2009, 10:37:01 pm
I'll take the r888's if your getting rid of the wheels :happy2:

i was planning to have those  :signLOL:

Haha.. Well ill be selling the wheels and tyres together in a couple of months probably, if someone wants dibs on them then let me know..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on February 14, 2009, 10:50:07 pm
LOL... We're circling like Vultures around bits and pieces coming off Jonnys car... I asked him for his Turinis although TonyDanza got there first, you lot want his tyres and Luca wants first dibs on the entire car when Jonny wants to sell  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 15, 2009, 11:02:03 am
top effort jonny

new turbo installed = cover of PVW??? they should be doing a mk5 madness issue soon enough  :party:

Just to put all of that into some numbers and give you an idea of just how fast this is going to be!..

My car at Santa Pod was running 1300KG and 360BHP so roughly 278HP/Ton

With the turbo kit and the extra weight saving I should be looking at a power to weight ratio of around 383HP/Ton with 'Stage 2' seeing just over 500HP/Ton


Jonny

I would of thought your car will weigh less than 1300kgs mate. I had my car weighed at a weigh bridge that had just been recalibrated 2 days previous (not totally bang on though I know, but gives a good idea) and it weighed 1405kgs. This was during the week whist at work and had a brimmed tank, and about 30-40 kgs of work ggear in the boot too + misc clutter in the car. Now with all that removed, + rear seats and your other bits I would of though it would have you under 1300kgs mate..

My car will be weighed at the 30-130 day on proper scales so will give you a update then.. :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 15, 2009, 11:30:35 am
top effort jonny

new turbo installed = cover of PVW??? they should be doing a mk5 madness issue soon enough  :party:

Just to put all of that into some numbers and give you an idea of just how fast this is going to be!..

My car at Santa Pod was running 1300KG and 360BHP so roughly 278HP/Ton

With the turbo kit and the extra weight saving I should be looking at a power to weight ratio of around 383HP/Ton with 'Stage 2' seeing just over 500HP/Ton


Jonny

I would of thought your car will weigh less than 1300kgs mate. I had my car weighed at a weigh bridge that had just been recalibrated 2 days previous (not totally bang on though I know, but gives a good idea) and it weighed 1405kgs. This was during the week whist at work and had a brimmed tank, and about 30-40 kgs of work ggear in the boot too + misc clutter in the car. Now with all that removed, + rear seats and your other bits I would of though it would have you under 1300kgs mate..

My car will be weighed at the 30-130 day on proper scales so will give you a update then.. :happy2:

I got the 1300KG from the VW Racing corner weight scales.. Interesting though.. I thought it was going to be less than that too but not according to them!

You may have a light one! haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gazbutS3 on February 15, 2009, 11:31:53 am
it would explain a few things :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 15, 2009, 11:57:59 am
....

For what it's worth, mine weighed 1,492 Kg on VWR's corner-weighting scales and the only weight-saving bits I have from stock are the front brakes and carbon bonnet (only approx 20 Kg total saving).


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 15, 2009, 12:04:46 pm
....

For what it's worth, mine weighed 1,492 Kg on VWR's corner-weighting scales and the only weight-saving bits I have from stock are the front brakes and carbon bonnet (only approx 20 Kg total saving).




Yeah, that makes more sense.. The GTI is a hell of a lot heavier than VW say.. Even if they are quoting dry figures..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on February 15, 2009, 12:07:32 pm
....

For what it's worth, mine weighed 1,492 Kg on VWR's corner-weighting scales and the only weight-saving bits I have from stock are the front brakes and carbon bonnet (only approx 20 Kg total saving).




you've got too many doors though  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 15, 2009, 12:26:46 pm
....

For what it's worth, mine weighed 1,492 Kg on VWR's corner-weighting scales and the only weight-saving bits I have from stock are the front brakes and carbon bonnet (only approx 20 Kg total saving).




you've got too many doors though  :wink:

.... :signLOL:

That's my daughter's fault. My previous car was a 2-door Beemer and I was going for a 3-dr GTI but she pointed out that I also needed to transport her (jailbait) friends. Actually, most of them are 18yo now and a good laugh.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMySpace_SlideShow%2FSky_passenger.jpg&hash=2115d94d2fde64a793a1d6d54c45854c32b91a42)

^ My 17yo SWMBO (am divorced and single parent)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 15, 2009, 12:30:08 pm
....

For what it's worth, mine weighed 1,492 Kg on VWR's corner-weighting scales and the only weight-saving bits I have from stock are the front brakes and carbon bonnet (only approx 20 Kg total saving).


So over 1500kgs for a standard GTI??? Surely not?  :surprised:
Mine is going on corner scales at the 30 - 130 event too, so be interesting to see. I shall be launching the rear seats out for this too (as most cars are doing this), so will add a few KGS (20- 30) to see what it weighs in road trim.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 15, 2009, 02:16:02 pm
....

Does anyone know what VW list the weights as for 3 and 5-dr GTI's?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on February 15, 2009, 04:14:41 pm
Mine was just over 1400kg's when corner-weighted by VWR... It was fairly empty at the time too - maybe about 5kgs worth of excess bits and pieces lying around.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 15, 2009, 05:29:57 pm
....

Does anyone know what VW list the weights as for 3 and 5-dr GTI's?

GTI..

3dr - 1328KG
5dr - 1328KG
DSG 3 & 5dr - 1347KG

Edition 30..

3dr - 1357KG
5dr - 1357KG
DSG 3 & 5dr - 1376KG

All of which seem very low to me.. Interesting that the 3 and 5 door cars are listed as having the same weight.

My car weighed in at 1320KG on the VWR scales with roughly 20 litres of fuel in, hence the 1300KG weight. That is with roughly 105KG of weight saving, so I would say the standard 3 door DSG ED30 weighs around the 1400KG mark, if not a little more..

None of that really explains how RR's car is almost 1500KG! With 20KG of weight saving.. Very strange..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on February 15, 2009, 05:48:38 pm
Does RR have a sunroof?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 15, 2009, 05:52:18 pm
GTI..

3dr - 1328KG
5dr - 1328KG
DSG 3 & 5dr - 1347KG

All of which seem very low to me.. Interesting that the 3 and 5 door cars are listed as having the same weight.

My car weighed in at 1320KG on the VWR scales with roughly 20 litres of fuel in, hence the 1300KG weight. That is with roughly 105KG of weight saving, so I would say the standard 3 door DSG ED30 weighs around the 1400KG mark, if not a little more..

None of that really explains how RR's car is almost 1500KG! With 20KG of weight saving.. Very strange..

Jonny

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FVWR_Weightingpre.jpg&hash=49a37fadcce2fc342e018e231db2a13de7b957ff)

^ Stoopid me!! That (before corner-weighting) was with my body weight plus three-quarters tankful of fuel! Duh! [Or was it? - I took the pic!]

I dunno what I weigh (about 15 stone? 95 Kg?) and don't have any bathroom scales at home (now being a single guy!). That would make more sense methinks.

@Mike - Yes, I have a sunroof - How heavy is that FFS? (am DSG too)

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 15, 2009, 05:57:53 pm
I think yours would be more like 1375KG with no fuel or driver then.. Sounds about right!

Ill get a pic of the scales next time im in at VWR, im really hoping that I should be able to get it down to low 1200's..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on February 15, 2009, 06:07:58 pm
Ahh, all becomes clear. Sunroof = no idea, but a panel of glass and a mechanism surely weighs more than a sheet of thin metal. Not much though I'd imagine..

Right, I'll stop littering now Jonny.

500bhp FTW!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 15, 2009, 07:04:23 pm
Ahh, all becomes clear. Sunroof = no idea, but a panel of glass and a mechanism surely weighs more than a sheet of thin metal. Not much though I'd imagine..

Right, I'll stop littering now Jonny.

500bhp FTW!

Should have plans together by the end of tomorrow! Really not sure what to do, may just go built engine and BIG power straight away.. Hmm..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on February 15, 2009, 07:36:27 pm
Remember what you said about doing things right the first time, rather than chasing upgrades and potentially wasting money?

Just do it, you can always wind it down if it's too much - you can't add power as easily!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 15, 2009, 07:41:43 pm
Remember what you said about doing things right the first time, rather than chasing upgrades and potentially wasting money?

Just do it, you can always wind it down if it's too much - you can't add power as easily!

Yeah, just want to make sure I have the headroom in this set-up to get to the overall goal of 500hp+

Dont think there will be any more money involved going from 425-450hp to 500hp+ if I make sure that the turbo etc is capable..

Dont really want to be the first one to find out how strong the DSG 'box is!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 15, 2009, 07:43:29 pm
Remember what you said about doing things right the first time, rather than chasing upgrades and potentially wasting money?

Just do it, you can always wind it down if it's too much - you can't add power as easily!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi456.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq281%2Fpreeto_f07%2Ftop-10-most-overused-words_8.jpg&hash=1dfa0e985812e11c6704ca9150b5a094b170785d)

See, it's true - This forum's members will always encourage you! :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on February 15, 2009, 07:49:31 pm
Yup, by doing the internals I suppose you can scale the rest quite easily.

Big power always means fragility somewhere and you'll always be chasing it, but I think your plan to focus on BHP instead of the killer torque is deffo the way forward.

The force is strong with you young one  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on February 16, 2009, 12:47:12 am
I love this project, but what is the aim? I know you said it wasn't just chasing big power! Pioneer or just want to abuse super cars in a Golf?

I know if I had the kind of money you have, I'd be taking the track route (I know this wouldn't appeal to you though  :signLOL:)

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 16, 2009, 11:55:39 am
I love this project, but what is the aim? I know you said it wasn't just chasing big power! Pioneer or just want to abuse super cars in a Golf?

I know if I had the kind of money you have, I'd be taking the track route (I know this wouldn't appeal to you though  :signLOL:)

....Jonny already races Aston Martins, so he already has that satisfaction. Perhaps he just wants to reproduce some of that performance in his road car but also have some fun doing quarter-miles and trackdays.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on February 16, 2009, 12:59:09 pm
It's a genuine question, and Im interested in an answer.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 16, 2009, 01:06:01 pm
It's a genuine question, and Im interested in an answer.  :happy2:

I guess its a bit of everything you mentioned really, I love cars, love modifying cars and having a golf with 500hp sounds like good fun!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on February 16, 2009, 01:21:51 pm
Excellent! I was thinking the other night, with the figures you mentioned, there won't be many other mk5s worldwide with those kind of figures, right?  :drool:

Anyway always great to see an epic modding thread.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 16, 2009, 01:35:12 pm
Excellent! I was thinking the other night, with the figures you mentioned, there won't be many other mk5s worldwide with those kind of figures, right?  :drool:

Anyway always great to see an epic modding thread.  :happy2:

At the minute there is 5 Mk5's over the 500 crank HP figure.. Thats the cars that are present on the forums etc.. Sure there are quite a few more too, but its not just figures really for me..

I just want it to be super fast! haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 16, 2009, 11:12:22 pm
You;re BONKERS mate..  :laugh: But I like your style..  :happy2: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 17, 2009, 10:40:36 pm
Hey all..

So with all of this performance talk I thought I should pay some attention to the exterior..

Just ordered up front bumper, skirts and rear bumper, all of which are going to be a little different, im really hoping that it looks good!

As far as I know its going to be the only one of its kind, which is nice! Always good to have something a little different!

Hopefully have pics up in the next couple of weeks as the parts are going to take a little while..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on February 17, 2009, 10:41:35 pm
cant wait to see them you teaser you   :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on February 17, 2009, 10:48:53 pm
what bumpers?? thunderbunny at a guess?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on February 17, 2009, 10:51:24 pm
^^^ I agree! Thunderbunny with a twist of carbon fibre!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 17, 2009, 10:55:09 pm
what bumpers?? thunderbunny at a guess?

^^^ I agree! Thunderbunny with a twist of carbon fibre!

 :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 17, 2009, 11:00:11 pm
We do like to guess on this forum don't we  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: billyboy on February 17, 2009, 11:27:04 pm
Mark farmer said somebody has pested and pested him into selling a front bumper as fitted to A11 RRL, would that be you ?
are very own stig
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 17, 2009, 11:34:54 pm
....

I reckon I know what the rear is going to be and I haven't been speaking to Mark at VWR about it. Shall I say what I think it is?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 18, 2009, 12:45:05 am
Mark farmer said somebody has pested and pested him into selling a front bumper as fitted to A11 RRL, would that be you ?
are very own stig

Haha, I haven't been pestering but maybe he means me yeah..

....

I reckon I know what the rear is going to be and I haven't been speaking to Mark at VWR about it. Shall I say what I think it is?

Go for it mate lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 18, 2009, 02:10:51 am
....

I reckon I know what the rear is going to be and I haven't been speaking to Mark at VWR about it. Shall I say what I think it is?

Go for it mate lol..

....I reckon the same diffuser as recently fitted to the VWR demo GTI.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on February 19, 2009, 08:51:34 pm
is this anything to do with you Jonny by any chance > http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/santapodfeb09.aspx (http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/santapodfeb09.aspx)
or is it old news  :signIWS: iv not been on here for a while excuse me  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 19, 2009, 08:56:28 pm
is this anything to do with you Jonny by any chance > http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/santapodfeb09.aspx (http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/santapodfeb09.aspx)
or is it old news  :signIWS: iv not been on here for a while excuse me  :laugh:

Yeah mine gets a mention there lol.. The Revo TT was also running 12's on the day..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on February 19, 2009, 09:09:24 pm
how did the tt compare!? it would be interesting to see them side by side on a track...
or the Isle of Man that place is quality for roads especially the mountain part of the TT course. even if it is in a beast of an A6  :driver: :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 19, 2009, 09:10:33 pm
how did the tt compare!? it would be interesting to see them side by side on a track...

Good times, almost nothing in the ET but my trap speeds were around 5MPH more..

Yeah didnt get a chance for a side by side but sure we will next time! Check out the events section for the next Santa Pod day!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobMKV on February 19, 2009, 09:12:12 pm
Didnt know the TT was getting into the 12's wasnt Kev driving was it?

I like Revo news   :smiley:   http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/MPHshow.aspx
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 19, 2009, 09:34:44 pm
Didnt know the TT was getting into the 12's wasnt Kev driving was it?

I like Revo news   :smiley:   http://www.revotechnik.com/aboutRevo/news/MPHshow.aspx

It was Nick actually.. Seems thats about what it would do!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 20, 2009, 08:24:39 am
My last run was against there TT..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 25, 2009, 07:34:07 pm
Hey, So did a couple more bits to the car today..

Got the lower middle grille off (thanks Matt), the intercooler looks ace now.. Wasn't really a fan of this look before but I think it suits the 'look' of my car..

Im going to make a custom lower open grill for the car as at the moment it looks like something is missing.. Im planning on cutting away all of the honey comb interior of the grill, smoothing the surround and having it painted matte black.. Lots of work for something so small but it should be worth it IMO.

Also installed a set of LED number plate bulbs.. These are 6000k colour and match my Xenons great! Really freshens up the rear end to be honest.. Didn't get a chance to get pics as I was busy charging the battery after running it out with a car hoover that plugs into the cigarette lighter! Well.. It could have had something to do with me forgetting to turn off the headlights for 20mins whilst I was cleaning it also.. Durrrrrrr! Anyways.. All good now and she lives again!

Ill get some pics up in the next couple of days!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on February 25, 2009, 07:37:45 pm
Can i just say thats your worst ever update, its normally something i have to read twice just to get it into my head what you have done  :laugh:
Its nice to no you do normal stuff like the rest of us from time to time.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 25, 2009, 07:43:08 pm
Can i just say thats your worst ever update, its normally something i have to read twice just to get it into my head what you have done  :laugh:
Its nice to no you do normal stuff like the rest of us from time to time.  :happy2:

Sorry, I forgot to mention the rocket booster  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on February 25, 2009, 07:46:42 pm
Any idea of when the new turbo will be ready.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on February 25, 2009, 07:49:04 pm
No worries for the grille help, It's what the community is all about.  :drinking:

It's great you consider the aesthetics as mush as the performance. :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on February 25, 2009, 09:03:35 pm
So the cars staying then?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on February 25, 2009, 09:18:21 pm
ive heard the aluminium trim on the interior of the ed30 weighs a fookin tonne!! i think you should sell them to me for 80 quid! ;)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 26, 2009, 10:15:30 am
Did you remove the under bonnet lining jonny?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 26, 2009, 11:10:47 am
^^^^
Carbon bonnet? (they don't have a lining)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on February 26, 2009, 12:16:35 pm
where did you get the number plate bulbs from jonny? ive been looking for some for a while
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 26, 2009, 05:33:37 pm
Did you remove the under bonnet lining jonny?

Yeah.. Got that out after 10mins of having the car at home lol..

^^^^
Carbon bonnet? (they don't have a lining)

Not quite yet..  :wink:

where did you get the number plate bulbs from jonny? ive been looking for some for a while

I got them from a guy on www.vagoc.co.uk Ill see if I can sort out a group buy if people are going to be interested.. Mine look great IMO.

Also.. Today I had the exhaust changed a little.. I have gone to a straight pipe front section, removing two large silencer boxes, and played around with the middle box a little.. It now sounds mental!!! Very loud, very aggressive, huge pops and bangs.. Mega! haha..  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on February 26, 2009, 05:44:03 pm
Did you remove the under bonnet lining jonny?

Yeah.. Got that out after 10mins of having the car at home lol..

^^^^
Carbon bonnet? (they don't have a lining)

Not quite yet..  :wink:

where did you get the number plate bulbs from jonny? ive been looking for some for a while

I got them from a guy on www.vagoc.co.uk Ill see if I can sort out a group buy if people are going to be interested.. Mine look great IMO.

Also.. Today I had the exhaust changed a little.. I have gone to a straight pipe front section, removing two large silencer boxes, and played around with the middle box a little.. It now sounds mental!!! Very loud, very aggressive, huge pops and bangs.. Mega! haha..  :laugh:
a group buy would be great i know there were a few people that wanted them too.. any vids of the car ? sounds mental
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on February 26, 2009, 05:44:24 pm
I'd be interested in the number plate bulbs also. Do they not throw the light warning on? And therefore the car cuts the power to them??? Or do they have a wired in resistor?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on February 26, 2009, 05:54:12 pm
Also.. Today I had the exhaust changed a little.. I have gone to a straight pipe front section, removing two large silencer boxes, and played around with the middle box a little.. It now sounds mental!!! Very loud, very aggressive, huge pops and bangs.. Mega! haha..  :laugh:

You're mental  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:  Keep it up and I can't wait for that big turbo to go on  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on February 26, 2009, 06:00:05 pm
Madman!! I bet it sounds awesome!  :rolleye: Get a vid up ASAP  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on February 26, 2009, 06:23:36 pm

Also.. Today I had the exhaust changed a little.. I have gone to a straight pipe front section, removing two large silencer boxes, and played around with the middle box a little.. It now sounds mental!!! Very loud, very aggressive, huge pops and bangs.. Mega! haha..  :laugh:

Awsome. Have you got any sound or vid clips?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 26, 2009, 06:36:59 pm
Did you remove the under bonnet lining jonny?

Yeah.. Got that out after 10mins of having the car at home lol..

^^^^
Carbon bonnet? (they don't have a lining)

Not quite yet..  :wink:

where did you get the number plate bulbs from jonny? ive been looking for some for a while

I got them from a guy on www.vagoc.co.uk Ill see if I can sort out a group buy if people are going to be interested.. Mine look great IMO.

Also.. Today I had the exhaust changed a little.. I have gone to a straight pipe front section, removing two large silencer boxes, and played around with the middle box a little.. It now sounds mental!!! Very loud, very aggressive, huge pops and bangs.. Mega! haha..  :laugh:
a group buy would be great i know there were a few people that wanted them too.. any vids of the car ? sounds mental

I was going to do a little vid but my neighbours are in and I can't imagine they would be very pleased lol..

Ill get some pics and vids of the updates and get them on tomorrow..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Cooper on February 26, 2009, 06:41:56 pm
I'd be interested in a group buy for some LED number plate bulbs!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 26, 2009, 06:52:09 pm

I'd be interested in a group buy for some LED number plate bulbs!


....Me too as I've already got LED Daylight Running Lights.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 26, 2009, 06:54:36 pm

I'd be interested in a group buy for some LED number plate bulbs!


....Me too as I've already got LED Daylight Running Lights.

Just started a new thread.. http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2613.0

Just put your interest down on there and ill see what I can do tomorrow..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 04, 2009, 10:54:49 pm
Sooooo!!!

Had a busy 'car day' today.. Got lots done! Very pleased with the results and how things are going..

Just thought I would post up to say im happy with it thats all  :laugh:

Pics and write up's tomorrow!!  :happy2:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on March 05, 2009, 09:23:27 am
tease.........how rude!  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on March 05, 2009, 09:49:23 am
you cant say something like that without pictures :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 05, 2009, 05:16:30 pm
Update!!

So, its been a while since I last had anything done to the car.. but here goes!!

I decided to go for an open front grill to show off the intercooler after seeing this pic..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FFebruary2009mk5turbocar-mom-gs018.jpg&hash=e7173669ee657f548eb31119ab381fefdbae66a1)

I know its not for everyone, and I admit that a little while ago I hated intercoolers being on show, but I do think it gives a much more aggressive look to the front end so I set out on doing the same thing..

First of all I removed my intercooler grill, but to be honest as much as I liked the look it just looked a little un finished, and simply like the grill had been stolen lol.. With there being a return for the grill to clip into etc..

This is what I did next.. Ill let the pics do the talking..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05200.jpg&hash=ff08c01154f2362e92be5f67912df86d02051cd6)
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05202.jpg&hash=96a7c2c585f1b4945fab2e40cfd9a7addf4308f7)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05203.jpg&hash=31ea61bf63f2d6dbffbd60f255e5acb41b2955d2)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05204.jpg&hash=4da47e01ed37a2ff10b634cb10433537de3e67f7)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05205.jpg&hash=6a875873faa2e74377f9e45df5dc20b4c6b3b673)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05206.jpg&hash=0917cfe04ca891b7a62c358d233549e1b0884b7d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05207.jpg&hash=98bfa1a9c9e7ca3ff12e0f02a872e98e1a09f7d4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05208.jpg&hash=c1b7dbd7726a1de2c3326a0d9476eadc37205f1d)

Just waiting for that last coat of Matte black to dry and ill go for a test fit on the car, should be able to get it on tomorrow all being well.. Lots of work to get that trim to the way it is now but I think it should finish it off nicely!

So! Next thing..

As I have been saying, im looking to change the seats in my car, and was set on the Recaro Pole Positions, very light weight, around 12KG all in with base frames, sliders and side mounts etc.. Look great and they are extremely comfertable and supportive too!

Anyways, I have been waiting for 10 weeks now and I got bored!

Before..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05193.jpg&hash=14298b834cfcd17ec47e82dbfdf9e0ba722696dc)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05194.jpg&hash=75d06af5004b128878defabeaa6b59e79f5df0d8)

After..

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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05210.jpg&hash=13caac6e7d1d2d4ad529d97c0a7a2eb128b53312)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05212.jpg&hash=e22d8ade1c2bf39c33677667dfdbd2a4cd03d977)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05209.jpg&hash=f5d72bef51b6abd126d7ad7a26cb45dcd9bbd0bd)

100% the pics do no justice for them, they look a completely different colour when you see them, and look perfect inside! For me the offer was too good to miss out on, so I went for it! Much more comfortable and supportive for me anyways, quite a bit firmer, and look great! Very pleased with them!!

They are also just over 7KG lighter than the standard seats because of the lack of airbags, heating, and electronic lumbar support etc.. So a 15KG saving which is sticking to my original plan!

The car is running better than ever, can't go into any detail on this at the moment, but put it this way.. Its a lot faster than it was at Santa Pod!!

Anyways there we are! Thats about it for now..

I have a date for the big turbo install, which is late April.. So im going to try and get all of the weight saving done before then, that should see the car at 1075KG (no fuel or driver) which is pretty good going!

Its going to be fast! 419hp/tonne anyone??

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 05, 2009, 05:26:52 pm
....

Very impressed with your attention to detail re the lower grill surround - It'll defo make it look right and not an amateur hack!

Love the Recaros - Regret not ordering them as an option on mine back in May 05.

Are you going to leave your I/C ali silver or paint black?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 05, 2009, 05:28:43 pm
....

Very impressed with your attention to detail re the lower grill surround - It'll defo make it look right and not an amateur hack!

Love the Recaros - Regret not ordering them as an option on mine back in May 05.

Are you going to leave your I/C ali silver or paint black?

Yeah, lots of work like I said, but I want it to look OEM, so I suppose thats the only way!

Yeah the seats are amazing! Love them, completely change the feel of the car too!

Going to leave it Ali, but to be honest, its not quite as shiny as it was new, which im cool with, not too in your face.. It looks good..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on March 05, 2009, 05:40:37 pm
Yum!! I much prefer cloth to leather.

Can I have first refusal on them should you ever shift them?? LOL - I just hoover up your old parts..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 05, 2009, 05:43:08 pm
^^^^
Yeah, that dull Ali will look 'purposeful' (or what I call 'funky' but that shows my age!)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: E30m3 on March 05, 2009, 05:44:17 pm
Ju SIR are f*cking utterly stark raving bonkers !  :signLOL:  :grin:  :rolleye:   :happy2:

Awesome mods, your taking this weight thing very seriously , PS take the doorcards and rear door cards off , you must be itching to rip them off !!!   :laugh:

Stunning car Jonny, tell me you keeping this ?

I love your mods they are mental, i can only imagine/sh*t myself as to how fast that car is, after sitting in Johns .  :drinking:

you gotta take me for a drive one day if i ever meet you  8)

enjoy  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on March 05, 2009, 06:07:50 pm

Love the Recaros - Regret not ordering them as an option on mine back in May 05.



you and me both mate... i love your car jonny, it really is quite some car!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 05, 2009, 06:11:15 pm
Ju SIR are f*cking utterly stark raving bonkers !  :signLOL:  :grin:  :rolleye:   :happy2:

Awesome mods, your taking this weight thing very seriously , PS take the doorcards and rear door cards off , you must be itching to rip them off !!!   :laugh:

Stunning car Jonny, tell me you keeping this ?

I love your mods they are mental, i can only imagine/sh*t myself as to how fast that car is, after sitting in Johns .  :drinking:

you gotta take me for a drive one day if i ever meet you  8)

enjoy  :driver:

Apparently there isnt much too them!? But they will all be coming out, along with the seats (again) to have all of the heat proofing and sound deadening removed.. The estimated weight of that stuff is 30kg all in! Crazy eh! Loud but fun! lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 05, 2009, 06:24:30 pm
Mite get this sticker made up to P off all of the big turbo guys..  :wink: :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIntelBlankInside.jpg&hash=5b605949173033d79501c28ceb62c69ee1944350)

(ill take it off when I go big turbo) lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on March 05, 2009, 06:53:27 pm
I am really loving the seats, they look in great nick as well.  :smiley:
surprised they are lighter than stock even without the gubbins. Have you any plans to get them re-trimmed like your first set.  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 05, 2009, 07:30:07 pm
I am really loving the seats, they look in great nick as well.  :smiley:
surprised they are lighter than stock even without the gubbins. Have you any plans to get them re-trimmed like your first set.  :party:

Im planning to have the shells painted in body colour, and the seat trimmed with black alcantara and the black material with rubber dots.. There is a proper name for it lol.. Same as what the E46 CSL seats have..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fe46_m3csl_03_l.jpg&hash=acdd0f081afc4b9af26ebdc985f385a7ef4a44d6)

To be honest that type of stuff will be done once everything else is finished, its a case of getting all of the performance things done and then making everything look pretty..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: garethmk1 on March 06, 2009, 12:08:38 am
Mite get this sticker made up to P off all of the big turbo guys..  :wink: :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIntelBlankInside.jpg&hash=5b605949173033d79501c28ceb62c69ee1944350)

(ill take it off when I go big turbo) lol..

Lol, have one of these myself, have had it for a while !
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 06, 2009, 12:09:24 am
Mite get this sticker made up to P off all of the big turbo guys..  :wink: :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIntelBlankInside.jpg&hash=5b605949173033d79501c28ceb62c69ee1944350)

(ill take it off when I go big turbo) lol..

Lol, have one of these myself, have had it for a while !

Lol really.. Just did it on photoshop earlier ha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 06, 2009, 12:19:53 am
Hey all..

Managed to finish it up tonight so thought I would post up some pics..

To be honest, its not sat exactly how I thought but it does finish things off, and im pleased with the finish I have managed to get.. Super smooth!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05213.jpg&hash=62c89dce8bd3480da63cea8dd2bbcedf16425643)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05214.jpg&hash=e95ef7a8cd550513c8d97c3cace7c98a61a5f31e)

Before..

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After..

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Ill get the car cleaned and get some proper photos of the front end next week! Looks nice and aggressive now!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 06, 2009, 12:25:43 am
^^^^
Defo worth doing, Jonny!  :happy2: 8) :happy2:

It finishes it off and visually unifies that whole central upper and lower grill which is so distinctive on the Mk5 GTI/Ed30.

Otherwise (as your other pic shows) it looks like a piece dropped off your car.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 06, 2009, 12:26:56 am
^^^^
Defo worth doing, Jonny!  :happy2: 8) :happy2:

It finishes it off and visually unifies that whole central upper and lower grill which is so distinctive on the Mk5 GTI/Ed30.

Otherwise (as your other pic shows) it looks like a piece dropped off your car.

Im thinking that I may vinyl, or paint the visible white area to black, that should make it perfect..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 06, 2009, 01:16:13 am
Is that the Forge Twintercooler or have you ditched the aircon?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on March 06, 2009, 10:10:17 am
WOW! You never cease to amaze me Jonny. You car really is something! I cannot WAIT to see it in the flesh  :rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 06, 2009, 10:24:47 am
Is that the Forge Twintercooler or have you ditched the aircon?

Forge cooler..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on March 06, 2009, 10:36:37 am
looking great jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on March 06, 2009, 11:14:04 am
looks great ;)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 06, 2009, 01:24:14 pm
Is that the Forge Twintercooler or have you ditched the aircon?

Forge cooler..  :happy2:


Wow.. you really have got everything.. can't wait to see it later this month - you'ill def be needing a helmet down the strip with that  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 06, 2009, 03:17:30 pm
Is that the Forge Twintercooler or have you ditched the aircon?

Forge cooler..  :happy2:


Wow.. you really have got everything.. can't wait to see it later this month - you'ill def be needing a helmet down the strip with that  :happy2:

I had the cooler on at the last day.. Works very well! Certainly feel a big difference from just running the OEM GTI cooler..

Yeah really looking forward to the next day, pretty sure that Ill be able to better my time if I can get what I have planned sorted in time!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on March 06, 2009, 04:57:42 pm
looking great johnny!!!   :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on March 06, 2009, 04:58:27 pm
Thing I like about your car is that, yes its a big money project, but you get your hands dirty too!

I like the grill surround, and like you say will be perfect once you lose the inner white on the bumper.

Good lad!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 06, 2009, 05:17:21 pm
Thing I like about your car is that, yes its a big money project, but you get your hands dirty too!

I like the grill surround, and like you say will be perfect once you lose the inner white on the bumper.

Good lad!  :happy2:

Much more fun that way! Which is the reason that im doing it at the end of the day.. Just need to learn to enjoy it now once I have 'finished' a project lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cossy on March 06, 2009, 05:52:29 pm
Had a good read through this thread today.

Interesting on how much can be achieved on a ED30.

Completely bonkers though :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on March 06, 2009, 05:56:00 pm
need to learn to enjoy it now once I have 'finished' a project lol..

I think you need an old skool VW project!  :happy2:

Although Id probably end up hating you out of pure jealousy. :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 06, 2009, 07:04:52 pm
Just need to learn to enjoy it now once I have 'finished' a project lol..
So don't sell it just yet, get that big turbo on and blaze a trail through Santa Pod and the various VDub festivals this year... I think it will be unforgettable and certainly set the perfomance benchmark as far as Mk5/Mk6's are concerned for a few years... unless I go big turbo next year  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:  But then again, I don't want to ditch aircon and all internal trim  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on March 06, 2009, 07:40:58 pm
Seats looking great there jonny, keep up the good work    :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Cochese on March 08, 2009, 05:03:05 pm
  Epic!!!! :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 12, 2009, 04:53:28 pm
Update..

Hey all..

Managed to get the rear diffuses section of the standard ED30 rear bumper vinyl wrapped today in Matte Black.. Looks really good, makes the rear of the car appear much wider and lower to the ground..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05219.jpg&hash=c2f838d0405d8c6fe135013570d8bed358888923)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05221.jpg&hash=82dcf02f017d10a48b59e01fd09542b72c7e270f)

You can also spot the rear of the seats in this one!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05220.jpg&hash=3ecfa0b53a64d3d6dc35f7fa1cf14d8b624c3071)

Really pleased with it! Im planning on having the mirrors, and possibly the centre section of the Votex / OEM ED30 front splitter done in the same Matte Black finish.. Think that could tie in pretty nicely..

Im going to try and neaten up the front intercooler grill tomorrow, I have a feeling its not going to look right and at the moment im pretty much decided that im going back to a standard lower grill, doesn't seem like I can get the quality of finish that im after, I dont want that to let down the overall appearance of the car..

Anyways let me know what you guys think!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on March 12, 2009, 04:57:41 pm
nice wrapping there jonny chap   :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 12, 2009, 05:31:46 pm
Jonny, Id' personally put the standard lower front grill back on as it looks civilised - but thats my humble opinion and someone else might think it looks better without.  :happy2:   BTW, you could stick another aftermarket front bumper/grill on...  I prefer the standard one though.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 12, 2009, 05:33:46 pm
Thought you were changing the front/rear bumpers buddy??  :confused: Sorry if I've missed something!  :innocent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 12, 2009, 05:39:43 pm
Jonny, Id' personally put the standard lower front grill back on as it looks civilised - but thats my humble opinion and someone else might think it looks better without.  :happy2:   BTW, you could stick another aftermarket front bumper/grill on...  I prefer the standard one though.

Yeah, pretty sure thats what im going to end up doing but we'll see..

Thought you were changing the front/rear bumpers buddy??  :confused: Sorry if I've missed something!  :innocent:

Well, there has hardly been any interest to be honest, so ill leave it for now.. Plus the vinyl only cost me £20, thats enough to do the front and wing mirrors too..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NeilM on March 12, 2009, 07:08:20 pm
Hi Jonny, just got upto date with your project well done fella    :happy2:.

I've been thinking of wrapping the front and back middle section in black, how did you get on wrapping the rear removable toe eye disk, bearing in mind you have to keep popping it out on track days.

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on March 12, 2009, 08:58:38 pm
Update..

Hey all..

Managed to get the rear diffuses section of the standard ED30 rear bumper vinyl wrapped today in Matte Black.. Looks really good, makes the rear of the car appear much wider and lower to the ground..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05219.jpg&hash=c2f838d0405d8c6fe135013570d8bed358888923)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05221.jpg&hash=82dcf02f017d10a48b59e01fd09542b72c7e270f)

You can also spot the rear of the seats in this one!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05220.jpg&hash=3ecfa0b53a64d3d6dc35f7fa1cf14d8b624c3071)

Really pleased with it! Im planning on having the mirrors, and possibly the centre section of the Votex / OEM ED30 front splitter done in the same Matte Black finish.. Think that could tie in pretty nicely..

Im going to try and neaten up the front intercooler grill tomorrow, I have a feeling its not going to look right and at the moment im pretty much decided that im going back to a standard lower grill, doesn't seem like I can get the quality of finish that im after, I dont want that to let down the overall appearance of the car..

Anyways let me know what you guys think!

Jonny
looks great that mate , been toying with the idea of getting this done for ages , how does it look around the lip where the tail pipes come out ?  who done it , how much ?   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on March 12, 2009, 11:03:41 pm
That looks awesome Jonny. Its amazing how much of a difference a cheap little mod like that can make. It gets a big  :happy2: from me. Keep up the good work fella  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 12, 2009, 11:13:59 pm
Hope this answers all of the questions above..

I had the vinyl work done by a friend of mine, as a favor.. He left the exhaust trim surround so I did that myself, looks good, if you get extremely close to it, then you would be able to find an edge around the exhaust trim, but you would have to be about 6 inches away lol..

The toe eye was remove, wrapped and then replaced, so it can be taken in and out with no problem.

You can all have a close look on 29th.. Well, thats if you haven't all had it done by then too  :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: P10YRS on March 13, 2009, 07:56:59 am
Looks 10 times better with the wrap..  I prefer the look when the rear defuser (excuse my spelling) is black.

Your car is amazing tho Jonny!.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on March 13, 2009, 08:29:18 am
Just caught up with this. Looks great Jonny love the seats and the vinyl really suit sthe car. Keep it up.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on March 13, 2009, 10:14:29 am
Top notch Jonny - Looks brilliant and really sorts out the rear of the ED30, I think the fully colour-coded standard rear end is a bit too much myself.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: t.m. on March 18, 2009, 05:02:11 pm
..Jonny can you tell me the weight of the rear bench and passenger seat, in kg, aproximetly? Thinking of pulling them out before the run! Thank you! Btw. best car ever...and a one hell of a project!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on March 18, 2009, 05:59:08 pm
Update..

Hey all..

Managed to get the rear diffuses section of the standard ED30 rear bumper vinyl wrapped today in Matte Black.. Looks really good, makes the rear of the car appear much wider and lower to the ground..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05219.jpg&hash=c2f838d0405d8c6fe135013570d8bed358888923)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05221.jpg&hash=82dcf02f017d10a48b59e01fd09542b72c7e270f)

You can also spot the rear of the seats in this one!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05220.jpg&hash=3ecfa0b53a64d3d6dc35f7fa1cf14d8b624c3071)

Really pleased with it! Im planning on having the mirrors, and possibly the centre section of the Votex / OEM ED30 front splitter done in the same Matte Black finish.. Think that could tie in pretty nicely..

Im going to try and neaten up the front intercooler grill tomorrow, I have a feeling its not going to look right and at the moment im pretty much decided that im going back to a standard lower grill, doesn't seem like I can get the quality of finish that im after, I dont want that to let down the overall appearance of the car..

Anyways let me know what you guys think!

Jonny
But thats adding weight jonny isnt it :signLOL:

Looking nice mate :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 182_blue on March 18, 2009, 06:14:30 pm
Update..

Hey all..

Managed to get the rear diffuses section of the standard ED30 rear bumper vinyl wrapped today in Matte Black.. Looks really good, makes the rear of the car appear much wider and lower to the ground..




Really pleased with it! Im planning on having the mirrors, and possibly the centre section of the Votex / OEM ED30 front splitter done in the same Matte Black finish.. Think that could tie in pretty nicely..

Im going to try and neaten up the front intercooler grill tomorrow, I have a feeling its not going to look right and at the moment im pretty much decided that im going back to a standard lower grill, doesn't seem like I can get the quality of finish that im after, I dont want that to let down the overall appearance of the car..

Anyways let me know what you guys think!

Jonny

looks good, who did it and how much ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on March 20, 2009, 09:42:08 am
I think the black looks great  :happy2:

I wanted this doing on my car before i even picked it up but havent had the balls to get it painted as yet, can anybody photoshop the rear pic to show what it would look like on a tornado red one??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on March 20, 2009, 10:38:08 am
I think the black looks great  :happy2:

I wanted this doing on my car before i even picked it up but havent had the balls to get it painted as yet, can anybody photoshop the rear pic to show what it would look like on a tornado red one??

If you put that request up in the MK5 section i am sure some one will help,we try when possible to keep Jonny's build thread clean, as you can see, even with just  mostly his stuff its 30 odd pages.  :drinking:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 24, 2009, 08:19:26 pm
Update..

Ok, in preparation for this Sunday Santa Pod event ill be having some bit done on the car this week, hopefully its going to make a difference!

Got this beauty on the way..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fvw_golfmk5_bonnet_01.jpg&hash=7616dd69382a6cc2b3dfd33ec9bb1dd98a3457f1)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fvw_golfmk5_bonnet_07.jpg&hash=46a1228164d1e86d5970383912bc346e1adf8be2)

(The pics show the bonnet without the cut out for the front VW badge, the bonnet I have will feature the cut out)

VWR carbon bonnet.. Its the first bonnet made specifically for the MK5 GTI that is 100% carbon, all of the other bonnets out there, Seibon, Osir, carbon speed etc etc are fibre glass with a carbon skin (not that they would tell you that, but they are)

No offense to anyone out there with one of the brand I have mentioned, they are majoring on looks over weight saving, nothing wrong with that at all, but I wanted the lightest parts I could get, that's why I have decided to wait for this one!

Autoclave dry carbon, double sided.. Weights just over 4KG (Standard bonnet is 14.75KG) so well worth it! As its so light I will allso be able to run without a bonnet lifter, just have to get used to holing it open I guess.. Maybes not though, Ill have to see how much its fired open by the one on the car, I suspect it may be a big aggressive lol..

All in all this bonnet is going to save me just over 11KG, maybe a touch more if I decide to go with no lifter.. High up weight over the front end, so for sure im looking forward to getting it on the car and seeing how it feels / looks..

I really love the seats but like I mentioned when I had the fitted, I have a couple of plans for making them a little more individual..

Heres a pretty quick PS of the plan.. Gives you an idea anyways.. (obviously both seats would be done)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05209WHITE.jpg&hash=5974e2280fd8ea03cd6e4e259bb8ddf87129e6ae)

I have the vinyl being made up currently, its matched to the car colour, not that you would really notice, but I was after the closest white to CW as possible..

Also I have decided to wrap my mirrors, and mid section of my splitter in Matte black, same as the diffuser section of the rear bumper. This should tie the wheels in a little more to the body work, getting the vinyl for both of these jobs

So a couple of aesthetic mods there really, just finishing touches to be honest..

Tomorrow I should get the bonnet on, and all of the parts wrapped up. Ill post pics after the Santa Pod event this Sunday..

Obviously the bonnet is going to help performance but also got a couple of plans for some pure performance mods..

This week ill be having the car set up a little different, running a load of front camber doesnt really help when running the car down the 1/4 mile, so ill be winding a bit of that off, going to full stiff on the rear dampers, lowering the car all round and adding a couple more MM of rake, should all help!

Also got a few more little weight saving bits that will be done for the Santa Pod event..

* Removing all mats from the car 2KG
* No spare wheel or jack etc 15KG
* Sound deadening removed from under carpet 10KG
* Front & Rear wheel arch liners removed 2KG

Add that to the following that has already been done since the last event..

* Recaro seats 15KG
* Carbon Bonnet 11KG
* Front exhaust silencer removed 4KG

So thats another 59KG out of the car since the 1st Feb Santa Pod event, and the car is running far stronger too.. If the weather holds out (no snow this time hopefully) which should really help the 60ft times, then im hoping for some good times! The aim is realistically to get into the 12.6 bracket, I know its a big ask, but should be fun trying!!

Thats about it for now!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on March 24, 2009, 08:27:56 pm
Sounds good Jonny! Looking forward to seeing it on Sunday  :happy2: Are you having the bonnet painted or are you leaving it??  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on March 24, 2009, 08:38:50 pm
Lets hope the weather is favourable for your runs. wish i was there to see it.  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 24, 2009, 08:44:24 pm
Sounds good Jonny! Looking forward to seeing it on Sunday  :happy2: Are you having the bonnet painted or are you leaving it??  :happy2:

Going to see what I think, im pretty set on wrapping it in body colour, but that wont be done for Sunday unfortunately..

Scared that its going to look like a chavs wet dream  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 24, 2009, 08:52:48 pm

Going to see what I think, im pretty set on wrapping it in body colour, but that wont be done for Sunday unfortunately..

Scared that its going to look like a chavs wet dream  :scared:


....That's why I painted mine.

Is it black carbon because it looks silver like Hurdy's in the pic?

Trust VWR to come up with something good :happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 24, 2009, 09:04:19 pm

Going to see what I think, im pretty set on wrapping it in body colour, but that wont be done for Sunday unfortunately..

Scared that its going to look like a chavs wet dream  :scared:


....That's why I painted mine.

Is it black carbon because it looks silver like Hurdy's in the pic?

Trust VWR to come up with something good :happy2: 8) :happy2:

Yeah black carbon, but its far more grey in colour than others as it has the dry carbon resin..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on March 24, 2009, 09:56:48 pm
Sounds good Jonny! Looking forward to seeing it on Sunday  :happy2: Are you having the bonnet painted or are you leaving it??  :happy2:

Going to see what I think, im pretty set on wrapping it in body colour, but that wont be done for Sunday unfortunately..

Scared that its going to look like a chavs wet dream  :scared:

not a chance it practically oozes quality

nice to see you kept the front badge along with the new bonnet :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 24, 2009, 09:59:43 pm


Scared that its going to look like a chavs wet dream  :scared:


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:



























BTW Jonny, how do YOU know what a CHAVs wet dream looks like?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 24, 2009, 10:02:47 pm


Scared that its going to look like a chavs wet dream  :scared:

BTW Jonny, how do YOU know what a CHAVs wet dream looks like?  :laugh:

Lol.. You know what I mean!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on March 24, 2009, 10:08:03 pm
get those rear seat belts and door cards out for the day.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 24, 2009, 10:09:00 pm
get those rear seat belts and door cards out for the day.

Yeah good point actually..  :wink: :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on March 25, 2009, 09:28:44 am
Ha ha mad. I'm sure you can get into the 12.6ish! Wish i could be there to see it.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 12:25:13 pm
OK! So I couldn't wait..

The bonnet arrived this morning, had to get some pics right away! The quality is amazing and is super lightweight..

Going to fit it to the car now and ill get some pics up once I have cleaned the car etc!

Here you are!!

Beautiful carbon weave!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05224.jpg&hash=f777a3581d63a4716af223be082e93c9213b4abd)

Double skin, bonded 100% carbon..
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05223.jpg&hash=2c16399d0a73c2e8c47d2a24367158292b35f83e)

Applied some heat tape above the turbo area to prevent discoloration of the resin, autoclave carbon has a tendency to yellow if its exposed to high temperatures..
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05225.jpg&hash=0773a040689999fb45f9d12908fdd4aa187dbb18)

Close up!!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05226.jpg&hash=e9facc60ccf694e751b98e898f9ec3b79633f30a)

Ok, going to get it on the car now! Pics later!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on March 25, 2009, 12:26:45 pm
that looks mint! you going to paint it?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on March 25, 2009, 12:27:46 pm
wow...that does look like a work of art!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on March 25, 2009, 12:27:52 pm
mint cant wait to see the pictures!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 12:28:46 pm
that looks mint! you going to paint it?  :smiley:

Certainly no paint, maybes vinyl.. Having seen it im really not sure now, its pretty stunning to be honest..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: P10YRS on March 25, 2009, 12:34:22 pm
I like the Satin Black Touches  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on March 25, 2009, 12:36:17 pm
No don't wrap looks too good.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 25, 2009, 12:45:28 pm


Certainly no paint, maybes vinyl.. Having seen it im really not sure now, its pretty stunning to be honest..

Chav's wet dream...  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on March 25, 2009, 01:27:07 pm


Certainly no paint, maybes vinyl.. Having seen it im really not sure now, its pretty stunning to be honest..

Chav's wet dream...  :happy2:

lmao  :laugh: :laugh: couldnt help myself
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on March 25, 2009, 01:38:19 pm
Hurry up, yeah!?



:grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: t.m. on March 25, 2009, 01:50:02 pm
Jonny can you tell me the weight of the rear bench and passenger seat, in kg, aproximetly? Anyone  else? Please!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on March 25, 2009, 01:52:54 pm
Pictures  :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on March 25, 2009, 01:58:19 pm
i haven't got all day you know....where is he?  :P

need pix  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on March 25, 2009, 02:12:49 pm
Jonny can you tell me the weight of the rear bench and passenger seat, in kg, aproximetly? Anyone  else? Please!

The base weighs nowt really, that's just sponge. Neither does the smaller section really, 10kgs maybe? The bigger part of the split is the monster, like 30kgs.

Back on..  That carbon hood is stunning Jonny, I mean I can smell the quality from here!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Johnson10 on March 25, 2009, 02:49:44 pm
Been browsing this forum for a while now and I have to say, this is some car!
Previosuly saw pictures of your S3 and the GTi that's now at Regal and now this, certainly going to be stealing some visual mods and put them on my white swift!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 25, 2009, 02:57:30 pm
its about time someone put a real carbon fibre bonnet on there car  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on March 25, 2009, 03:14:17 pm
Must say I've seen a few carbon bonnets, and they looked bad (in terms of quality), but that screams quality.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on March 25, 2009, 04:18:43 pm
i didnt realise it took so long to fit a bonnet! you working with cheese?  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 04:33:58 pm
i didnt realise it took so long to fit a bonnet! you working with cheese?  :P

Lol..

Just doing pics now.. Wont be long!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 04:55:17 pm
Right!

So taken a while to fit the bonnet, mainly because I had no one to help, quite tricky doing it on your own lol..

Also I've had to improvise a solution for mounting the washers as there was no mounting point, at the minute I have secured them to the scuttle panel but they will be in the stock location once I get the bonnet cut to accept the washers..

I have spoken to VWR and it seems this one being the first it has been missed, they will all be on there from now on..

Anyways thats a very small point..

The bonnet is stunning, fit is 100% perfect as OEM and put it this way, the box the bonnet was delivered in weights more than the bonnet itself, its very very light..

Not driven the car yet but for sure it will make a difference!

As for looks im still not 100% convinced if im going to leave it bare carbon, I do think that its the nicest aftermarket piece of carbon I have seen, for sure on the level of race car parts, which is no surprise really as its been manufactured by a carbon shop that supplies many race teams carbon work..

The bonnet fits with no trouble, mounts on the stock locations, the catch all bolts up nicely, takes a tiny bit of fiddling around to get it square but once its there, bolt it up and its mega!

I have decided to run it without the lifter, as its just way to strong for the weight of the carbon bonnet, so at the moment Ill just have to hold it or something haha..

Anyways im very happy, big thanks to VWR for a fantastic product! Even the pics dont do it justice, its perfect close up too..

Heres a new set of pics of the car.. (still got to do the vinyl and suspension adjustments, should all be done tomorrow for Santa Pod)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05229.jpg&hash=fffc0c5f9bf3aab5da7c07d3bddf207d37c8fe5d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05230.jpg&hash=45de59e73baaacbc869e685ed2e5f0d54732d248)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05227.jpg&hash=9c813d58c608dead70818dbf92b233cd21575c77)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05228.jpg&hash=c11012f3b5826eb9fe80fe42a67ec6e9e9e99b29)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05231.jpg&hash=fcff8bd262038eaf21c8d75fc4cf4daa3ba37340)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05232.jpg&hash=93b8ce3ac862af763e9b950eb0c265b14b56b795)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05233.jpg&hash=82d97ad834842c7873a795c9974bcde6ee5958b3)

Let me know what you guys think!!!

Jonny

Ps. Carbon front wings (10MM wider) & Carbon hatch with polycarbonate rear screen will be making an appearance soon!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 25, 2009, 04:57:31 pm
Oh gosh that is beautiful!

Leave it carbon!!

Wow  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 25, 2009, 05:03:23 pm
that looks smart but that bumper lower grill just looks horrid mate and makes the front look untidy and like you forgot to fit something  :signLOL: but the bonnet looks the dogs
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 05:07:09 pm
that looks smart but that bumper lower grill just looks horrid mate and makes the front look untidy and like you forgot to fit something  :signLOL: but the bonnet looks the dogs

Lol I know.. I have a part on order, should be in for Friday.. Was worth a go, but said all along I would see how it goes, not the end of the world..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 25, 2009, 05:10:44 pm
i do still think about a full black bonnet on mine as with the black roof it could look cool but its my daily driver but i still might do it  :laugh:. worth a go on the grill but its abit too chavs wet dream  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on March 25, 2009, 05:45:32 pm
that looks fantastic as it is. dont wrap it..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 25, 2009, 05:47:00 pm
I know its still your daily driver Jonny, so you probably wouldn't want to mess about with this (and due to other complications also), but how much weight would be saved from getting rid of the xenons, and just putting normal headlights in?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 06:02:54 pm
I know its still your daily driver Jonny, so you probably wouldn't want to mess about with this (and due to other complications also), but how much weight would be saved from getting rid of the xenons, and just putting normal headlights in?

I considered doing this as I heard that the Xenons are very heavy! Someone said 15KG more than the Halogens..

I will do it if its that much, if not then ill leave it, just need to find out comparative weights..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on March 25, 2009, 06:23:24 pm
yes yes yes  :jumpmove:

PORN  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on March 25, 2009, 06:41:20 pm
Looks great! What about a vinyl strip along the front covering the area where a bra would go, at least it would give a little protection from stone chips :scared:  could even have a little gti cutout in the vinyl near the edge so you could see the carbon fibre underneath  8)


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: garethmk1 on March 25, 2009, 07:16:29 pm
I love you car - just wish I was brave enough to do it to my own 9 month old car !

Looks great, if I can be cheeky - what is the damage on a VWR Carbon Bonnet ?

I love the thread and the way your Edition 30 CS keeps evolving - awesome !

All the best

 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:

Gareth
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 07:20:27 pm
I love you car - just wish I was brave enough to do it to my own 9 month old car !

Looks great, if I can be cheeky - what is the damage on a VWR Carbon Bonnet ?

I love the thread and the way your Edition 30 CS keeps evolving - awesome !

All the best

 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:

Gareth

Yeah no probs, the cost is £867 inc VAT and next day delivery..

Cheers, plenty more to come, honestly, the list is getting bigger not smaller, which is cool.. And not so cool at the same time haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on March 25, 2009, 07:31:02 pm
carbon front wings you say!? im liking the idea of a wider track and wider tyres maybe??

are RS4 front stoppers on that list of yours? its only right that they are  :party:

i miss the turinis but a big  :happy2: all the same
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 07:33:55 pm
carbon front wings you say!? im liking the idea of a wider track and wider tyres maybe??

are RS4 front stoppers on that list of yours? its only right that they are  :party:

i miss the turinis but a big  :happy2: all the same

Yep, plan is to fit some 18x9's all round with 255/35/18 Toyo R888's..

Tricky part is making them fit, think I should be able to do it on the front without too much trouble, but the rears may require some fabrication.. (which is VERY expensive)

Just making a list of more weight saving ideas.. Its going to get extreme lol!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on March 25, 2009, 07:35:52 pm
you can get a clear coat laminate to protect the carbon @ that price it would be wise investment.Looks good
Did you not buy a braille battery? just I see the original battery box and wondered why you still have it seeing as your slimfasting :laugh:.

for the prev page I think the seats weighed 75-80kg (thats 2x fronts and rear bench)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 08:07:55 pm
you can get a clear coat laminate to protect the carbon @ that price it would be wise investment.Looks good
Did you not buy a braille battery? just I see the original battery box and wondered why you still have it seeing as your slimfasting :laugh:.

for the prev page I think the seats weighed 75-80kg (thats 2x fronts and rear bench)

Yeah I have the lightweight Braille Battery, I have the box in place to protect it, but to be honest, ill probably remove it.. Really it would only be a bit of dust etc that would find its way onto the cover..

Another job for tomorrow then haha..  :happy2:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on March 25, 2009, 08:08:14 pm
that looks stunning!!  :drool: :innocent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 08:13:16 pm
Just been messing around with some numbers, and new ideas for weight saving..

If I go flat out then I can get the base weight down to under 1000KG's.. Thats the aim now! Its going to be a super light weight GTI..

Some mad ideas, will include lots of custom fabrication, and plenty more carbon bits, should be mega!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on March 25, 2009, 08:17:35 pm
as ever jonny looks amazing  :happy2: , reckon the 'heavy' wing mirrors need to come off too  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 25, 2009, 08:18:56 pm
Ahhhh everytime I read this thread I want to tear my car apart and loose all the weight!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on March 25, 2009, 08:27:17 pm
drive naked that should spare a few KGs  :laugh:

have you still got your speakers in? hard to live without but...
OEM headunits are heavy as hell too
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on March 25, 2009, 08:37:18 pm
drive naked that should spare a few KGs  :laugh:


^^  :signLOL:

Bonnet looks superb jonny, cant wait to finally see the lightweight beast at the pod!   :happy2:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on March 25, 2009, 09:10:18 pm
carbon boot on the list???
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 11:19:33 pm
carbon boot on the list???

Carbon boot with polycarbonate screen..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 25, 2009, 11:34:05 pm
Looking very very good Jonny...   :drool: :drool: :drool: can't wait to see it on Sunday. 

I didn't know VWR did CF?!  :confused: I would have bought my bonnet from them if I'd known - your bonnect looks beter quality than mine, although i'm sure it cost more than £400  :chicken: ... still I'm also after wings, rear hatch (not with polycarbonate though) and maybe doors... but later this summer. My car's with JKM at the moment - I'm hoping and praying it'ill be fine for the strip on Sunday as its only got 255bhp due to the lean fuel issues with Stage 2+ on the car.  :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 11:37:08 pm
Looking very very good Jonny...   :drool: :drool: :drool: can't wait to see it on Sunday. 

I didn't know VWR did CF?!  :confused: I would have bought my bonnet from them if I'd known - your bonnect looks beter quality than mine, although i'm sure it cost more than £400  :chicken: ... still I'm also after wings, rear hatch (not with polycarbonate though) and maybe doors... but later this summer. My car's with JKM at the moment - I'm hoping and praying it'ill be fine for the strip on Sunday as its only got 255bhp due to the lean fuel issues with Stage 2+ on the car.  :sad:

This is the first one on any car actually.. But yeah, I listed the price earlier, about double what you paid for yours..

Yeah, hope you get yours sorted in time mate, Sounds like a bit of a strange problem..  :scared:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on March 26, 2009, 08:12:25 am
Think it look really good Jonny. Loving the black CF bonnet overall it looks so aggresive.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 26, 2009, 09:11:18 am

I didn't know VWR did CF?!  :confused: I would have bought my bonnet from them if I'd known - your bonnect looks beter quality than mine, although i'm sure it cost more than £400


....VWR have been getting carbonfibre parts made for their race cars for a while but, as you know, they don't hard sell.

Your bonnet looks absolutely stunning quality, Jonny and suits your car well. I don't think you need worry too much about 'looking like a chav's wet dream' (great expression) because yours is the real thing - Jonny McCoy!  8)

OSIR's carbon bonnets are I think the best of the rest - It's Horses For Courses.

Jonny, you could always get one of these portable bonnet struts : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FBonnetStrut.jpg&hash=eb61464f42e5cfb97cb3ad9d6cc9a27707b67805)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 26, 2009, 09:44:55 am
Jonny, you could always get one of these portable bonnet struts : -

Do they make it in carbon?  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on March 26, 2009, 10:29:16 am
Your a fookin madman Jonny, but in a good way! :grin: looking forward to seeing it in the flesh on Sunday  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 26, 2009, 02:20:55 pm
drive naked that should spare a few KGs  :laugh:

have you still got your speakers in? hard to live without but...
OEM headunits are heavy as hell too


I need liposuction - that'ill save about 40 kg straight away  :laugh:  Dieting is too slow  :sleepy:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 26, 2009, 02:23:39 pm
....VWR have been getting carbonfibre parts made for their race cars for a while but, as you know, they don't hard sell.


Yes, but they don't even have it on any marketing literature or their website  :confused:  Plus when I showed Mark he said it looked good and didn't say anything about VWR CF products...  :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 26, 2009, 04:02:10 pm

....VWR have been getting carbonfibre parts made for their race cars for a while but, as you know, they don't hard sell.


Yes, but they don't even have it on any marketing literature or their website  :confused:  Plus when I showed Mark he said it looked good and didn't say anything about VWR CF products...  :sad:


....Yes, but you know VWR as well as I do - Their priorities are preparing race cars rather than selling parts.

It'll possibly work its way eventually onto their next pdf.

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 26, 2009, 05:48:45 pm
I'll be speaking to Mark tomorrow to give an appraisal of the solid engine mounts and mention the carbon fibre stuff at the same time... TBH, I won't be able to afford any more panels until late summer - August - now anyway... spent waaaaaay too much on the Ed30 - could have easily done a turbo conversion on the R32 and some more instead...  :surprised:

But I love my Ed30  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 26, 2009, 05:58:25 pm
^^^^
@ illyun

Do post (Review?) what you think of the VWR engine mounts please?

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on March 26, 2009, 06:21:45 pm
^^^^
@ illyun

Do post (Review?) what you think of the VWR engine mounts please?

:happy2:

I've just written it up - took 30 mins and then tried to preview it and lost it all  :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 26, 2009, 08:14:57 pm
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 :drool: :drool: :drool:

I'm just off to the toilet..  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on March 26, 2009, 08:31:27 pm
Welcome to the world of CF bonnet owners.inc :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on March 26, 2009, 09:00:57 pm
myyour wheels look awesome jonny :happy2:
Bonnet is very nice, i would leave it as is. Why would you want to cover up such a nice weave of cf :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NB07 on March 26, 2009, 09:22:15 pm
lokks really good be intresting to see how light you can get it mate  :happy2:

just a queery - does cf get stone chipped?? its pretty tuff isnt it?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: SteveS on March 26, 2009, 09:40:41 pm
why the yellow fogs?  :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on March 26, 2009, 09:54:41 pm
why the yellow fogs?  :confused:

Its a mod.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 26, 2009, 10:09:25 pm

why the yellow fogs?  :confused:


Its a mod.


....And it matches the pretty golden yellow tape under the bonnet :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Johnson10 on March 27, 2009, 08:28:20 pm
Car looks stunning!

Also, Corsa VXR Arctic in this picture?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05232.jpg&hash=93b8ce3ac862af763e9b950eb0c265b14b56b795)

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2009, 06:44:05 pm
Update..

So, had a really good day at Santa Pod today.. Only ran the car twice but I was very pleased with the results!

60ft..  2.2670
330ft.. 5.6531
ET..  8.3467
MPH.. 91.52
ET.. 10.5924
ET.. 12.6017
MPH.. 115.85

I had another run but was down 8 hundredths..

Pretty pleased considering the car was ran on the standard K04 turbo, normal pump fuel, road legal tyres, and in road trim! So I didn't do anything for the day, so its a true road car time!

I was a little disappointed not to drop into the 12.5's but I put that down to the lower trap speeds, the ambient temp was up a fair bit over the last day I ran and also there was a huge que for the strip, so the car got heat soaked to death before both runs.. It really didn't feel as crisp as it does out on the road during a run around..

Anyways just shows what bolt on parts can do, and the weight coming out makes a huge difference too!

As far as I know that time makes this MK5 the fastest 2.0T FSI car in the UK and the fastest MK5 in the UK. Also the fastest DSG MK5 in the world.. Which is quite cool! : )

Dont think im going to run again until someone beats that time, give my car a rest I think..

In the mean time its only going to get faster! haha..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on March 29, 2009, 06:50:02 pm
i see your original GTI is for sale by Regal!!!

Excellent 1/4mile time tho...watching it from the grandstand was most impressive.

my car is 3 seconds slower.

I need more power!!!! 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 29, 2009, 06:53:08 pm
Great time Jonny! Jesus....I thought you had a fuel pump. What have you done? Intake, TBE (decat), Intercooler, Stage2+ ? That it? And obviously the weight reduction.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on March 29, 2009, 06:54:03 pm
very nice mate, hat off  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2009, 06:57:18 pm
Great time Jonny! Jesus....I thought you had a fuel pump. What have you done? Intake, TBE (decat), Intercooler, Stage2+ ? That it? And obviously the weight reduction.


From a power point of view..

Revo Stage 2+
Custom Intake
Custom 3" exhaust
Forge Twintercooler
Autotech fuel pump

So not much really!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 29, 2009, 07:07:29 pm
Ahh I see! So how come you ran with the normal fuel pump today then?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: SteveS on March 29, 2009, 07:10:46 pm
missing one, tyres!!.....they look like they could move the earth..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2009, 09:16:30 pm
Ahh I see! So how come you ran with the normal fuel pump today then?

Nope, I was on the Autotech fuel pump.. How come you thought I was on the OEM pump??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 29, 2009, 09:18:11 pm
Update..

So, had a really good day at Santa Pod today.. Only ran the car twice but I was very pleased with the results!

60ft..  2.2670
330ft.. 5.6531
ET..  8.3467
MPH.. 91.52
ET.. 10.5924
ET.. 12.6017
MPH.. 115.85

I had another run but was down 8 hundredths..

Pretty pleased considering the car was ran on the standard K04 turbo, normal pump fuel, road legal tyres, and in road trim! So I didn't do anything for the day, so its a true road car time!

I was a little disappointed not to drop into the 12.5's but I put that down to the lower trap speeds, the ambient temp was up a fair bit over the last day I ran and also there was a huge que for the strip, so the car got heat soaked to death before both runs.. It really didn't feel as crisp as it does out on the road during a run around..

Anyways just shows what bolt on parts can do, and the weight coming out makes a huge difference too!

As far as I know that time makes this MK5 the fastest 2.0T FSI car in the UK and the fastest MK5 in the UK. Also the fastest DSG MK5 in the world.. Which is quite cool! : )

Dont think im going to run again until someone beats that time, give my car a rest I think..

In the mean time its only going to get faster! haha..

Jonny

Ahh I see! So how come you ran with the normal fuel pump today then?

Nope, I was on the Autotech fuel pump.. How come you thought I was on the OEM pump??

Or am i being dumb - quite possible... :ashamed: :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2009, 09:20:20 pm
Update..

So, had a really good day at Santa Pod today.. Only ran the car twice but I was very pleased with the results!

60ft..  2.2670
330ft.. 5.6531
ET..  8.3467
MPH.. 91.52
ET.. 10.5924
ET.. 12.6017
MPH.. 115.85

I had another run but was down 8 hundredths..

Pretty pleased considering the car was ran on the standard K04 turbo, normal pump fuel, road legal tyres, and in road trim! So I didn't do anything for the day, so its a true road car time!

I was a little disappointed not to drop into the 12.5's but I put that down to the lower trap speeds, the ambient temp was up a fair bit over the last day I ran and also there was a huge que for the strip, so the car got heat soaked to death before both runs.. It really didn't feel as crisp as it does out on the road during a run around..

Anyways just shows what bolt on parts can do, and the weight coming out makes a huge difference too!

As far as I know that time makes this MK5 the fastest 2.0T FSI car in the UK and the fastest MK5 in the UK. Also the fastest DSG MK5 in the world.. Which is quite cool! : )

Dont think im going to run again until someone beats that time, give my car a rest I think..

In the mean time its only going to get faster! haha..

Jonny

Ahh I see! So how come you ran with the normal fuel pump today then?

Nope, I was on the Autotech fuel pump.. How come you thought I was on the OEM pump??

Or am i being dumb - quite possible... :ashamed: :embarrassed:

Pump fuel as in Shell V-Power and not some 110+ octane race fuel.. Sorry, just a bit confusing the way I described it..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 29, 2009, 09:22:21 pm
Oh I'm an idiot....I kept reading that as 'fuel pump' not 'pump fuel'. I guess cos im so used to seeing fuel pump written, not pump fuel.

My eyes deceived me! Apologies!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2009, 09:26:32 pm
Oh I'm an idiot....I kept reading that as 'fuel pump' not 'pump fuel'. I guess cos im so used to seeing fuel pump written, not pump fuel.

My eyes deceived me! Apologies!

Lol no probs mate..

All I mean was that if I run the car on drag tyres and race fuel I could think about dropping into the 11's with the K04, that would be mega, but to be honest, it seems like its cheating.. Its a road car, and not a drag car.. So I run it exactly as I drive it on the road..

Something the US guys dont do.. Think its a bit keen if you turn up and have to pump the fuel out your tank to replace with race fuel, change the map settings for the engine and swap wheels over, adjust suspension etc..

You know what I mean anyways..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on March 29, 2009, 09:37:02 pm
what tyres were u using??  seem to get good traction off the line.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2009, 09:39:14 pm
what tyres were u using??  seem to get good traction off the line.

Toyo R888 235/40/18.. Same I have been running on the car though the snow / ice / rain / cold etc..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: SteveS on March 29, 2009, 09:40:51 pm
i duno how those tyres can work in the wet let alone snow!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on March 29, 2009, 09:41:28 pm
that would explain the good traction then!

brave of u to run it in all conditions.

i certainly wouldn't!!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 29, 2009, 09:42:32 pm
i duno how those tyres can work in the wet let alone snow!

They work fine with a bit of temperature in them..  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on March 30, 2009, 12:21:07 am
Great time Jonny :happy2:

Don't you also have Quaife for that little extra distribution of grip?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 02:07:10 pm
Great time Jonny :happy2:

Don't you also have Quaife for that little extra distribution of grip?

Yeah quaife LSD..  :happy2:

Heres the time sheet anyways from the day  :smiley:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FGTI-Fest-best-time.jpg&hash=904e5e6c629f15327e77393f49f249ea02118b57)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on March 30, 2009, 02:43:41 pm
Got to say dude that your exhaust sounds fantastic, coming from the dude who gave a thumbs up in the traffic jam on the m1.

Luke
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 02:46:37 pm
Got to say dude that your exhaust sounds fantastic, coming from the dude who gave a thumbs up in the traffic jam on the m1.

Luke

Ahh! Lol, thanks..

Didn't get to make much noise unfortunately, wasn't much room haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on March 30, 2009, 02:54:56 pm
Got to say dude that your exhaust sounds fantastic, coming from the dude who gave a thumbs up in the traffic jam on the m1.

Luke

Ahh! Lol, thanks..

Didn't get to make much noise unfortunately, wasn't much room haha..

Banter, either way the whole package seems class and best of luck achieving what your after.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on March 30, 2009, 03:14:53 pm
Did you get a vid of your 12.6 run jonny?
Just think if you didnt eat breakfast you would of been in the high 12.5's :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on March 30, 2009, 03:16:35 pm
he did have his clothes on right?  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 30, 2009, 03:17:56 pm
so i take it u had the dsg map for this?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 30, 2009, 03:18:18 pm
Do what Honda did with the NSX Type R, and get a fine mesh for the gear/handbrake gaiters! That leather on the gaiters sure is heavy  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 03:29:11 pm
so i take it u had the dsg map for this?

 :chicken:

he did have his clothes on right?  :grin:

Maybes next time lol..

Did you get a vid of your 12.6 run jonny?
Just think if you didnt eat breakfast you would of been in the high 12.5's :signLOL:

Havn't seen anything up to now, but it would be cool if someone caught it on cam! only 2 hundredths off a 12.5  :sad:

Do what Honda did with the NSX Type R, and get a fine mesh for the gear/handbrake gaiters! That leather on the gaiters sure is heavy  :grin: :grin:

Sod off!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 30, 2009, 03:32:23 pm
or are u running bio fuel  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 03:35:06 pm
or are u running bio fuel  :signLOL:

I would love to run my car on E85 but I dont fancy having a couple of 250 litre drums in my garage and not being able to fill up would be and issue for sure!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 30, 2009, 03:36:40 pm
how hard/easy would it be to run the car on it?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 03:40:17 pm
how hard/easy would it be to run the car on it?

Not really a massive issue, so long as the E85 is compatible with the fuel lines, injectors, seals etc etc.. As some E85 will corrode those parts if left sitting for a while..

It would just be a case of possibly optimizing injector size (depending on what turbo you are running) and flow rates etc, then mapping the car to make the most of it, so you would be able to run a fair bit more ignition advance because of the low temp of the combustion and the high affective octane rating.. (up to 120 Ron)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 30, 2009, 03:46:03 pm
how hard/easy would it be to run the car on it?

Not really a massive issue, so long as the E85 is compatible with the fuel lines, injectors, seals etc etc.. As some E85 will corrode those parts if left sitting for a while..

It would just be a case of possibly optimizing injector size (depending on what turbo you are running) and flow rates etc, then mapping the car to make the most of it, so you would be able to run a fair bit more ignition advance because of the low temp of the combustion and the high affective octane rating.. (up to 120 Ron)

thats pretty much what i thought you would need to sort out to run the stuff but as you saykeeping it stored could be a problem but as a trailor queen it could be good
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on March 30, 2009, 03:50:43 pm
Friend of mine used to put Tolurine in his R32 with the ignition wound right up, crazy horrible stuff - but by God it was a weapon!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 03:53:04 pm
Friend of mine used to put Tolurine in his R32 with the ignition wound right up, crazy horrible stuff - but by God it was a weapon!!

Tolurine is used in some of the race E85 fuels to up the energy content but its baaaaad for everything.. The who fuel system had to be flushed with normal petrol every time the car ran to make sure it didnt destroy all the parts it touched!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 04:14:58 pm
Some pics of the car from Santa Pod..  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMGP3889edit-1.jpg&hash=3ec7ca02b0746ba0e85327f9e7f34f1f73fa72c1)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FP3290061.jpg&hash=bdbc783cdb4711facc5481d6227382aaf22c4d21)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00609.jpg&hash=f80ce4fa1d88abe2abbfb3231c5951f2ef3aff00)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC_0018-8.jpg&hash=ec0656e919aa4288ad223642fac6151b29eddb68)

If anyone finds any more let me know  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on March 30, 2009, 04:15:51 pm
Oh hell yeah - it's pure evil, I swear you can see it trying to give you cancer! He just banged a load in for 1/4mile racing and ran it on normal stuff daily to flush it.

Oh, I know I say this every time, but the car is looking superb - I actually get a little bit giddy when I see this thread updated  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on March 30, 2009, 04:16:07 pm
it certainly looks a mean thing at the pod jonny!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 30, 2009, 05:08:34 pm
....

Jonny - I had a good look around your car parked on the forum 'stand' yesterday.

Good: Looks absolutely like a 'normal' road car and not as hardcore as it really is. Looks very stylish and obviously some performance features can be recognised and enjoyed by the cognescenti.

Not so good: The lower front grill surround is still unfinished (or looks so). And those little depressions in the bonnet surely shouldn't be there. VWR's car is the same but I haven't spoken to Mark about it as yet.

I hope you don't mind my honesty in my comments. :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 05:20:31 pm
....

Jonny - I had a good look around your car parked on the forum 'stand' yesterday.

Good: Looks absolutely like a 'normal' road car and not as hardcore as it really is. Looks very stylish and obviously some performance features can be recognised and enjoyed by the cognescenti.

Not so good: The lower front grill surround is still unfinished (or looks so). And those little depressions in the bonnet surely shouldn't be there. VWR's car is the same but I haven't spoken to Mark about it as yet.

I hope you don't mind my honesty in my comments. :smiley:

Totally agree on the lower grill, I have had one on order for a while now, turns out I can collect it tomorrow! Shame I didnt have it on for yday!

Im waiting to hear back from VWR on the bonnet, sure it will be sorted right away..

Apart from that I agree, im into the stock look, it will look quite different pretty soon! Keep watching!  :happy2: :wink:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 30, 2009, 05:38:07 pm

Im waiting to hear back from VWR on the bonnet, sure it will be sorted right away..

Jonny

....That's one of the (many) great things I like about VWR - They give you total confidence in the knowledge that both Mark and Sam are real petrolheads and would want to sort it out even if you weren't bothered!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 10:19:20 pm
Here we go.. Its a bit wordy this one, but full of fun stuff!  :happy2:

Plans for the car!!

I know I have already gone a long way with this thing but I have decided that its about time I kept a car for a longer stretch and really finish it up to the spec that I would really dream of..

Its going to end up a full race spec Golf to be honest, but with the comfort and usability of something like a 996 GT3 RS or 360 CS.. For sure a compromise over the standard car, but nothing that would drive you insane, and the performance etc should more than make up for all that stuff anyways!!

So here we go, these are the parts / jobs that I want to complete on the car over the next how ever long it takes.. I would love to get it finished for GTI International, but im not sure how feasible thats going to be as its only 2 months away!

Power

To be honest im pretty much at the limit of the K04 turbo already, but im sure that I can improve things a little, probably no more peak power or torque but more driveability and response through the rev range..

Some of these parts are being replaced purely to save weight over the items that are on the car currently..

* Custom bar & plate intercooler core in stock location
* Custom 3" carbon intake system / Titanium Maf heatshield / Carbon filter heatshield / Little bit of gold heat tape too  :wink:
* Custom throttle body to intercooler pipe with DV recirc take off
* Custom 3" Titanium exhaust system - Single box design

Suspension + Brakes

Something that has been neglected to be honest due to the fact that I bought the FK coils due to the fact that they would sit the car extremely low, and nothing much more than that! I bought them when I was planning on running the car for only a couple of months as a stop gap, so I was going to lower it, stick some fancy wheels on then leave it.. Thats what I though lol!!

Obviously the brakes need doing too!

* Custom spec Ohlins 3 way adjustable dampers
* Poly bush full car
* Lightweight adjustable anti-roll bars
* OEM Scirocco rear hubs and bottom arms
* Custom spec wheels 18x9 to run 255/35/18 cut slicks
* VW Racing / Project Mu big brake kit

Weight saving parts!

This is the big one! As I take the weight out of the car, its just coming to life, everything is sharpening up, brakes, handling etc etc.. Not to mention the power to weight ratio, running a maxed out K04 with the target base weight should see me 370hp/tonne.. You would need just over 500hp to match that with a stock weight ED30!!!

* Carbon fixed back Recaro's on fixed base frames with aluminium side mounts
* All interior under carpet sound deadening material removed
* Misc interior parts lightened / removed
* Carbon front wings
* Carbon boot lid
* Carbon boot floor
* Full air conditioning system removed
* Polycarbonate rear 3 windows
* Custom Halogen headlights
* Fog lights removed
* Headlight washer system removed

And a couple of bits just for looks..

* Carbon mirrors
* Matte Black vinyl wrap (all non carbon parts)
* Carbon roof vinyl (Sounds tacky but this stuff uses real carbon)
* Carbon interior trims
* Carpet rear of car to maintain OEM look

So there we are, quite a few plans for the car as you can see, you probably all think im mad doing this to a Golf, but I just love it haha..

So its not certainly not going to be the most powerful GTI out there, and probably never will be.. But round a track, I would challenge any GTI anywhere to keep up  :wink:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on March 30, 2009, 10:24:29 pm
wow............. liking your car as it is anyway, the plans sound superb  :party:

although the removal of white may slow your car
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 30, 2009, 10:27:30 pm
Sweet Jesus! I cant wait!!!!

So no new turbo then? Sorry for yet another question - I can't keep up with your progress lol!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 30, 2009, 10:31:40 pm
Sweet Jesus! I cant wait!!!!

So no new turbo then? Sorry for yet another question - I can't keep up with your progress lol!

Stick with the K04 until all of that is done.. Thats the plan  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 30, 2009, 10:34:58 pm
good on you for doing it as it's how mine will end up over the next year or so LOL stripped out track b1tch LOL I just love the look of em  :evilgrin: go for it fella and I did think how long will it take to want to turn the golf into something like his work car LOL
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 30, 2009, 10:47:32 pm
....

Good for you, Jonny  :happy2: 8) :happy2:

If you can do it, go for it! Life's not a rehearsal.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on March 31, 2009, 09:25:32 am
Car was looking great a Santa Pod Jonny  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Love the sound of your new plans. When you say Recaros, do you mean the ones you currently have or are you binning them off and going for something lighter?  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 31, 2009, 10:41:11 am
Car was looking great a Santa Pod Jonny  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Love the sound of your new plans. When you say Recaros, do you mean the ones you currently have or are you binning them off and going for something lighter?  :happy2:

Yeah, selling the seats that are in the car currently and replacing them with something lighter.. See the for sale thread  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mixit on March 31, 2009, 02:17:25 pm
Wow ! What an awesome thread. Just spent the last 2 hours going through it. Amazing car Jonnyc  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 31, 2009, 06:07:03 pm
Wow ! What an awesome thread. Just spent the last 2 hours going through it. Amazing car Jonnyc  :happy2:

Thanks! Yeah, I had a look through it myself the other day, quite a lot of stuff in there lol..

Got the new lower grill replaced, that open one looked a mess! Such a shame I didnt have the standard one back in for Santa Pod, never mind!

Anyways Robin has bought the seats out of my car (R32 Recaros) and my new seats should be in Thursday next week.. As far as I know they are going to be one of a kind too! hehe.. Love a bit of custom work!!  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 31, 2009, 06:34:32 pm

Anyways Robin has bought the seats out of my car (R32 Recaros) and my new seats should be in Thursday next week.. As far as I know they are going to be one of a kind too! hehe.. Love a bit of custom work!!  :wink:


....The seats I'm getting from you are one of a kind too - They are the fastest Mk5 seats in the UK over the quarter-mile!

(I'll be 62 next Thursday) If there's a change to next Thursday, Jonny, it's no problem - I'm totally flexible.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 31, 2009, 06:37:41 pm

Anyways Robin has bought the seats out of my car (R32 Recaros) and my new seats should be in Thursday next week.. As far as I know they are going to be one of a kind too! hehe.. Love a bit of custom work!!  :wink:


....The seats I'm getting from you are one of a kind too - They are the fastest Mk5 seats in the UK over the quarter-mile!

(I'll be 62 next Thursday) If there's a change to next Thursday, Jonny, it's no problem - I'm totally flexible.

Ok Robin, what ever suits you, no probs moving around within the week, of course need to confirm a date with VWR too as yet so ill get on to it Tuesday when im back and we can go from there!

Thanks again  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mixit on March 31, 2009, 07:59:37 pm

Anyways Robin has bought the seats out of my car (R32 Recaros) and my new seats should be in Thursday next week.. As far as I know they are going to be one of a kind too! hehe.. Love a bit of custom work!!  :wink:


....The seats I'm getting from you are one of a kind too - They are the fastest Mk5 seats in the UK over the quarter-mile!

(I'll be 62 next Thursday) If there's a change to next Thursday, Jonny, it's no problem - I'm totally flexible.

You'll need to be with those seats  :laugh: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 31, 2009, 09:41:47 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F_f42ZbKWLXUk%2FSdJxdi93o0I%2FAAAAAAAAAP8%2FuhEsKQBj7QA%2Fs1152%2FDSC02636.JPG&hash=c6d9bb5c07a6bd14449b9c539e6d546a0358677b)

^ Uber cool pic by john_o ^  :happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: TurboTrev on April 03, 2009, 09:00:40 am
Your car's looking good Jonny and you've got some great mods in the pipeline. :happy2: By-the-way are you the same Jonny that popped into The Golf Centre (Allan Fishburn) in Darlo a couple of times - if so hello - I had the black mk5 GTI.  Trev.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on April 03, 2009, 07:37:55 pm
 Jonny, seems like your car is no longer the quickest Mk5 GTi down the strip. This ones just obliterated your previous times.

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Time to alter your sig pic about having the quickest mk5 in the world  :signLOL:  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on April 03, 2009, 07:50:37 pm
Jonny, seems like your car is no longer the quickest Mk5 GTi down the strip. This ones just obliterated your previous times.

&feature=related

Time to alter your sig pic about having the quickest mk5 in the world  :signLOL:  :wink:

His is the quickest in the uk, and quickest dsg in the world. The gti in the video is a manual :happy2:
Although it does prove that red is the fastest colour :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on April 03, 2009, 07:51:35 pm
Jonny, seems like your car is no longer the quickest Mk5 GTi down the strip. This ones just obliterated your previous times.

&feature=related

Time to alter your sig pic about having the quickest mk5 in the world  :signLOL:  :wink:

His is the quickest in the uk, and quickest dsg in the world. The gti in the video is a manual :happy2:
Although it does prove that red is the fastest colour :laugh:
so true luca :happy2:.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on April 03, 2009, 07:54:12 pm
im sure jonny will be wiping the floor with that soon anyway phil
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on April 03, 2009, 07:54:48 pm
Says on the info part of the vid it has a gt30 turbo kit :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 03, 2009, 09:06:47 pm
That is not the fastest in the world, that title is with USP in the US with a 600+ WHP (Black) GTI.. Mine is the fastest DSG in the world, not MK 5

Hoping to drop into the 11's with a KO4 turbo, think that's cooler than just bolting on a load of power and going fast ad a result of that..

Jonny, seems like your car is no longer the quickest Mk5 GTi down the strip. This ones just obliterated your previous times.

&feature=related

Time to alter your sig pic about having the quickest mk5 in the world  :signLOL:  :wink:

His is the quickest in the uk, and quickest dsg in the world. The gti in the video is a manual :happy2:
Although it does prove that red is the fastest colour :laugh:
so true luca :happy2:.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 03, 2009, 09:09:22 pm
^^^^
Also, Jonny has road-legal tyres and normal road fuel - Did the red car?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 03, 2009, 09:13:25 pm
....

Jonny - I just sent you an email (hotmail addy).
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on April 03, 2009, 09:15:38 pm
it'll be amazing if you can do a 11sec run with the K04 johnny!  a set of drag slicks may get you near, but will your DSG gearbox hold up?

some of the peeps across the pond are nutters, bolting GT30/35's into VW's humble FWD Golf!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 03, 2009, 09:31:23 pm
just think if that car was dsg  :signLOL:  so to get in the 11s is good
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on April 03, 2009, 09:35:14 pm
How are you tyres doing jonny? Worn out yet??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on April 03, 2009, 11:36:53 pm
That Red US GTI shifted gears pretty fast.. I wonder if he had a WOT box installed?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 04, 2009, 06:57:23 am
^^^^
Also, Jonny has road-legal tyres and normal road fuel - Did the red car?

Slicks, race fuel and another 100hp approx as far as I know..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 09, 2009, 12:31:08 am
Update..

Hey, just a quick teaser really..

New seats again today, managed to get one in, as I was supplied with only one set of correct base frames, pretty annoying!!!

Anyways pleased with them, need a bit of jiggling around to get them right, going to move them towards the centre console as they feel too close to the door, and hopefully ill be able to drop them down a little more, want them super low! Having new cashions made tomorrow which should help with sitting me more in the seat also..

Anyways heres some pics..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSCF3079.jpg&hash=f31cf2f6af7224204c0e234ed5e5e2e4c274e725)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSCF3080.jpg&hash=04edc485fdb80e1b120397bbcfe7847f78b05ab6)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSCF3081.jpg&hash=6d34480f656f5874453932cc42713ad5e9e35f3c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSCF3082.jpg&hash=1dec408c38bacafe7e596a34dd753a731ba6b028)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSCF3083.jpg&hash=f1aff5642d68da2446488cb395a8199f295f2e54)

OEM seats 33.5KG each! Recaro's... 11.5KG each including mounts etc  :happy2:

Base weight of the car as it stands now should be around 1230kg.. Im getting there slowly!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on April 09, 2009, 07:43:23 am
they look great :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on April 09, 2009, 07:51:49 am
Oh, they're nice! Do they slide and everything? Pole Positions??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on April 09, 2009, 08:17:16 am
ooo very nice jonny look kinda OEM+  :happy2: and 20kg per seat !!! wow
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on April 09, 2009, 09:24:18 am
they look fantastic!! i thought you'd be stealing seats from a ALMS car, but they look totally suited.  they look great!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 09, 2009, 09:51:05 am

Oh, they're nice! Do they slide and everything? Pole Positions??


....They slide on the runners and tilt adjustability is done via the screw fixings in the slots and holes in the aluminium side supports. I know because I helped Jonny install them - Easy when you know how but took a heck of a lot of working out!

As you'll doubtless see when Jonny completes and posts pics, they really suit the car interior - I was surprised how they don't just look like a bolted on goodie - Their detailing matches the interior finishes (the ones which are currently remaining!!).
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on April 09, 2009, 10:13:35 am
WOW!! They look great  :drool: I cannot believe the weight difference  :surprised:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on April 09, 2009, 10:31:41 am
 :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 09, 2009, 10:49:20 am

Oh, they're nice! Do they slide and everything? Pole Positions??


....They slide on the runners and tilt adjustability is done via the screw fixings in the slots and holes in the aluminium side supports. I know because I helped Jonny install them - Easy when you know how but took a heck of a lot of working out!

As you'll doubtless see when Jonny completes and posts pics, they really suit the car interior - I was surprised how they don't just look like a bolted on goodie - Their detailing matches the interior finishes (the ones which are currently remaining!!).

Thanks again for the help Robin!  :happy2:

Turns out the base frames are sided, which would go to explain why it was such a mess around fitting the passenger side base frame to the driver side of the car!

Think they have found the other base frame too, only problem is that its going to need fully re building on both sides now! Never mind, will be easy now I know what to do haha..

As Robin said, they really do suit the interior, purposeful but not in your face, that was something I was worried about with the LARGE Recaro branding on the head rests, but thought I would see how it looked first before having them changed, which would involve replacing the top section of leather with a non branded section.. So quite a job! Im really glad I did because it ties in great!

As for the weight, as you all know thats the reason I changed, but the difference is pretty huge, one seat can be lifted easily with one hand, where as the OEM seats are a full bear hug style lift haha..

Its all of the little bits added together that makes the difference, if you just changed the seats and left it there then really its pretty marginal, but combined with all of my other weight saving parts its getting there now, I think I should be able to get down to around 1100KG in the next couple of months, then its going to be pretty rapid!

Ill get some proper pics once there both in the car and set up correctly  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on April 09, 2009, 11:18:41 am
I'm very impressed they slide, can't wait to see them... looks like they match the OEM leather, as near as damn it too - result!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 09, 2009, 11:33:13 am
^^^^
Yes, very good match to oem finishes.

TTshop have a Pole Position version with subtle carbon pattern and without the big RECARO graphics (which suit Jonny's white car btw).
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on April 09, 2009, 06:32:28 pm
looking tight there jonny   :smiley:  (getting in and out that is)   :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on April 09, 2009, 07:23:38 pm
Nice seats Jonny, the recaro holders I might have sprayed a matt black to blend them into the carpet & seat.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 09, 2009, 09:01:20 pm
^^^^
It's up to Jonny of course but the slightly racey/competition look is quite funky in the flesh.

[But please remember that this is the opinion of someone who has large silver vinyl RACINGLINE.COM letters down the sides of his GTI]
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 14, 2009, 04:49:12 pm
Update..

Hey,

So looks like there is going to be a bit of a wait for my other base frame, very annoying!!! This means that my car will continue to be a 1 seater!! haha.. Getting some funny looks driving it about..

Heres a few pics anyways, seems like its going to be a while until I can post pics of TWO seats in the car haha..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05238.jpg&hash=d8634a2c9f52855624394758181bf8b7be9e8a4e)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05239.jpg&hash=80a86c2065c4e267ca2b0595eedb7617282c0ab5)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05243.jpg&hash=1fb50ddedee120e22f94cf7e9dcdb168b354afb9)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05242.jpg&hash=cd39b786d14d757469a550ddd8baa6474965ddbb)

In the mean time I have figured out a way to drop the Pole Positions by about 20mm whilst retaining the seat belt and sliders! So really looking forward to that, as at the minute they feel too high for me, but I like to sit as low as possible.. I have also made some new inserts for the base cushions which improves the feel a hell of a lot.. The standard cushions were rock hard and really thick..

They will be fantastic once I get them all done.. The RECARO branding on the top of the seat has really grown on me, think it goes well with the car, so ill be leaving that.. Glad I didnt have them removed before I collected the seats..

As for other bits on the car, I have been working on a new intake, which should be ready within the week (hopefully) think you will all like it.. Should help a little with the cars performance too which is the most important thing! Heres a teaser..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fintake.jpg&hash=b5f66fabb2eed886f476fd4f22e9f3b11b0693ba)

Re installed the lower grill on the car, just couldn't get along with that open front, looked like someone had stolen it lol.. Only £13, pretty pleased about that too lol..

(much better)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05236.jpg&hash=aedf908889413863e4d3a4d6dc1115aa745f2242)

Ill be removing the fog lights and blanking the holes off with pieces of carbon, removing the washers for the headlights, and generally going round the car and removing / tidying up all of the little bits and bobs that I have neglected to sort out yet.

Made some cool plans for the interior also, just to tart it up a little, again very OEM look, but should tie it all in very nicely!

* Black Dynamica centre arm rest
* Black Dynamica door trims
* Black Dynamica trimmed OEM steering wheel (not sure if this one is possible, but I think it would look great!!)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FRGTI3.jpg&hash=3e5d739cfec3f629fe7e4f123fbc3c0396d0ca56)

The last thing would be to have the head lining trimmed in black Dynamica, I love this, and have never had it in a car of my own, so it would be a great addition, again woulndt be standing out, just nicely tie in all the other parts of the interior..

Similar to this..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fr8_alcantara.jpg&hash=c6db57e1437e91757c9416b83faa4d98c27c7a0f)

I would leave the handbrake and gear lever alone, just so that there is still a little leather in the interior..

The last touch for the interior would be to go with carbon trims for the dash and doors, nothing but looks for this one, can't imagine there would be any real weight saving lol.. I would also have a nice little Edition 30 sticker made up to keep it looking OEM..

As always I have been thinking of more weight saving tricks, and changed a few plans along the way..

I was thinking of going for carbon front wings / rear hatch etc and having the car vinyl wrapped in Matte black so that I could leave the carbon bare without it showing up too much against the white etc..

I have now decided to stick with the CW and get the bonnet wrapped in colour coded vinyl, just looks too 'jap' for me really.. I like the sleeper look to be honest.. I favor vinyl over paint for a couple of reasons, keeps the weight down, and gives the option to back to carbon without any problems..

Ill be doing a few more Matte black details on the car though, mirrors, lower front splitter etc.. To compliment the rear diffuser section of the rear bumper that I did a little while ago (close up pic for those that have requested)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05245.jpg&hash=2a23777f9c66ef4fe7709b1a0d44f7d0db11b4e1)

The revised target base weight for the car is going to be 1050KG, this should be achievable without going to extremes on the car, I know this is already way past what some people would like to go with their own cars but the plans were getting a little mad, and expensive too.. To save a further 50KG and break the 1000KG barrier and keep the OEM look interior which is very important to me would cost another £5000 give or take.. Thats getting silly for a daily driver road car I think..

I should have the car down to the 1050kg mark by GTI International, hopefully the surface is ok and I can run some reasonable times on the strip, would be good to have a bit of a play there.. It does seem like the starts are going to be an issue though with it just being a normal runway surface rather than a prepped track..

Anyways a couple more pics..

Couldn't resist a nice rear 3/4 shot to show off the new ride heights..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05235.jpg&hash=1a22fb47abefed27774860fb918679d1220acf2c)

Can't beat a bit of contact patch!! You can really see the front negative camber on this shot too..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05237.jpg&hash=c448735be603428e7f42229971ffa58174d3a9e8)

Thats about it for now!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mixit on April 14, 2009, 05:05:29 pm
Amazing Jonny, just amazing....  :love:  Really like the steering wheel.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on April 14, 2009, 05:27:55 pm
I can't keep up with you Jonny! Car is sitting perfect  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 14, 2009, 05:40:52 pm

The last touch for the interior would be to go with carbon trims for the dash and doors, nothing but looks for this one, can't imagine there would be any real weight saving lol.. I would also have a nice little Edition 30 sticker made up to keep it looking OEM..


....Do you mean the 'brushed aluminium' horizontal strips on doors and dash? - I'm going to have mine wrapped in carbonskin vinyl along with the Recaro seat backs (if possible).

Btw, I think I've found a source for Interlagos cloth and am just waiting for a snailmailed sample - So I'll get back to ya soon :happy2:

Yours is looking very good, jonny 8)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 14, 2009, 05:43:07 pm

The last touch for the interior would be to go with carbon trims for the dash and doors, nothing but looks for this one, can't imagine there would be any real weight saving lol.. I would also have a nice little Edition 30 sticker made up to keep it looking OEM..


....Do you mean the 'brushed aluminium' horizontal strips on doors and dash? - I'm going to have mine wrapped in carbonskin vinyl along with the Recaro seat backs (if possible).

Btw, I think I've found a source for Interlagos cloth and am just waiting for a snailmailed sample - So I'll get back to ya soon :happy2:

Yours is looking very good, jonny 8)

Yeah thats it mate, same deal with mine  :happy2:

Cheers, ok just let me know on the rears!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 14, 2009, 05:47:54 pm

Cheers, ok just let me know on the rears!  :smiley:


....Hopefully any day now - I just need to know that the Interlagos option is a goer.

:drinking:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gaz b on April 14, 2009, 05:57:16 pm


Holy smoke! :laugh:   This is some project dude.. :jumping:

Credit crunch? What credit crunch..........
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 15, 2009, 04:51:47 pm
Hey all..

Got some new wheels on order, should be ready in about 4 weeks..

Heres a quick teaser  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FOZcentreblue.jpg&hash=9d9155b7331012164ff9d273b919c1b506e4bff6)

Custom Neon Blue centre cap, this will be carried over the car, little touches here and there featuring the Neon Blue, just to make it a little different, quite a few cars around running with the while grill strip now..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC052301.jpg&hash=4f6517d3b049980fe4fc55bcc2714ccca0409846)

Anyways this means the Team Dymanics Pro Race 1.2's with Toyo R888 235/40/18's are for sale (see for sale section)

I would let them go for £700 but obviously need them until my new wheels arrive!

These new wheels (not hard to guess what they are) will be something a bit different, planning on running a pretty extreme size tyre, just to help get that power down, and should further improve the handing and performance of the car! Im really looking forward to getting them actually..!!

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: P10YRS on April 15, 2009, 06:06:39 pm
Liking the Neon Blue jonny!

Nice to see a different colour on the front grill...
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:49 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC052301.jpg&hash=4f6517d3b049980fe4fc55bcc2714ccca0409846)

^ Now I have to say, that even as a strong traditionalist re the GTI 'red lipstick line', I really love that! On your car in that context, it floats my boat.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg80.imageshack.us%2Fimg80%2F4937%2Fdsc9104aw2.jpg&hash=5e92ca38fdeeb5f21671e74f6bbc8b5063d1606c)

^ A touch of matching blue at the back? :evilgrin: ^

On white : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg442.imageshack.us%2Fimg442%2F8026%2Fdsc9301cl1.jpg&hash=b813b20bb6cb20b3bc0ed9330d8ab40549bacb43)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: wolfbane1967 on April 15, 2009, 08:30:14 pm
Realy looking good Jonny

New wheels must be OZ Alleggerita   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: wigit on April 15, 2009, 08:56:35 pm
love the blue as reminds me of this  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwigit71%2Fforums%2F2667_f520.jpg&hash=b3f201a3d421c43b0dd13cfff8a1b353fe156e13)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 15, 2009, 09:00:30 pm
Realy looking good Jonny

New wheels must be OZ Alleggerita   :happy2:

Ding ding ding!!! haha..

Yeah, just a bit of a wait for them at the moment, I could get the Anthracite colour wheels now, but I want black, and it seems crazy to buy a new set of wheels and then have them done in Matte black when I can wait a few weeks and get them in the colour I want for no more money..

Going for 17x8 ET48, Im a little concerned over how they will look, but im sure it will be ok as the car is pretty low!

The main reason for going with the 17's is that they are super light! They come in at just under 7kg each, so thats a saving of just over 10kg's over the Team dynamics wheels, pretty impressive, plus its rotational mass, so you can times it by 4 to equal the same weight saving when compared to static weight loss..

Add that to the brakes, around 15kgs lighter than standard on the discs & bells and its going to be like removing another 100kg of static weight from the car..

Can't wait!!

love the blue as reminds me of this  :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fwigit71%2Fforums%2F2667_f520.jpg&hash=b3f201a3d421c43b0dd13cfff8a1b353fe156e13)


Yeah didnt think about that, but a fair few people have mentioned it, so its kind of keeping to the VAG theme, which is nice  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on April 15, 2009, 09:04:37 pm
Nutty as a fruit cake   :rolleye: , but lovin every new post - keep up the good work   :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on April 15, 2009, 09:05:19 pm
MKII sacrilege :rolleye: square lic plate nooooooooooooooooooooo!

Yes strangely the neon blue suits your car, but its a fine line you tred mr-c to much and you tip the scales.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 15, 2009, 09:10:09 pm
MKII sacrilege :rolleye: square lic plate nooooooooooooooooooooo!

Yes strangely the neon blue suits your car, but its a fine line you tred mr-c to much and you tip the scales.

That pic is just a photoshop, it wont look as bright in reality im sure..

Do let me know if I end up tipping those scales lol..  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Rocket on April 15, 2009, 11:34:00 pm
rides looking sweet jonny, keep it up. can't wait to see the car in the flesh with new additions on it  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on April 15, 2009, 11:42:50 pm
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the lure of the Alleggerita's :happy2:

I've seen a few threads over on the MKV forum about having 255's on a GTI and hope/prayed/wondered if this is what you'd go for.

As ever...loving your work Jonny 8)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 15, 2009, 11:51:42 pm
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the lure of the Alleggerita's :happy2:

I've seen a few threads over on the MKV forum about having 255's on a GTI and hope/prayed/wondered if this is what you'd go for.

As ever...loving your work Jonny 8)

255's require a 8.5" rim really, it would be a step too far on a 8J..

Im going for 245/40/17's Probably Yokohama A048R this time, they have a stiffer sidewall than the Toyo's, which should help as im going even wider..

The car is going to end up another 18mm lower to the ground after the new wheels are on, partly due to the tyres being smaller than the big 235's I have on at the min, and also the arch gap being larger too, so ill be able to drop it a little more.. Should look like a roller skate! haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on April 16, 2009, 07:50:20 am
great stuff. cant wait to see the bits done  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mjp on April 16, 2009, 08:05:39 am
nice work johnny...dunno about the blue stripe though...imo red stipe is the winner...
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on April 16, 2009, 09:06:20 am
as ever inspired jonny  :happy2:
make the strip LED then you could choose the colour or make it knight rider stylee  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: TurboTrev on April 16, 2009, 10:45:26 am
How many mods can one man do, there can't be any more left, but I suspect there are!  Jonny get yourself down to The Golf Centre in Darlo again one Saturday morning so we can all have a bit of a drool. :happy2:  I'm there every week and there's usually a few others.  In fact we'll have to have a mini NE meet there some time!  My black edition CHs arrive today for mk ED30, so I'll be showing those off this week lol.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 16, 2009, 11:02:30 am
How many mods can one man do, there can't be any more left, but I suspect there are!  Jonny get yourself down to The Golf Centre in Darlo again one Saturday morning so we can all have a bit of a drool. :happy2:  I'm there every week and there's usually a few others.  In fact we'll have to have a mini NE meet there some time!  My black edition CHs arrive today for mk ED30, so I'll be showing those off this week lol.

Golf centre in Darlo? Not sure where that is.. Not been there before I dont think, unless im mistaken  :ashamed:

Yeah up for a little NE meet, free this Sat too..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: TurboTrev on April 16, 2009, 12:51:03 pm
How many mods can one man do, there can't be any more left, but I suspect there are!  Jonny get yourself down to The Golf Centre in Darlo again one Saturday morning so we can all have a bit of a drool. :happy2:  I'm there every week and there's usually a few others.  In fact we'll have to have a mini NE meet there some time!  My black edition CHs arrive today for mk ED30, so I'll be showing those off this week lol.

Golf centre in Darlo? Not sure where that is.. Not been there before I dont think, unless im mistaken  :ashamed:

Yeah up for a little NE meet, free this Sat too..

It's Allan Fishburn's place - he does Revo remaps - unless I'm getting you confused with someone else, I think you've been there with your previous car (white GTI - coilovers, remap, R32 rear bumper, black CHs etc)?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 16, 2009, 12:52:19 pm
How many mods can one man do, there can't be any more left, but I suspect there are!  Jonny get yourself down to The Golf Centre in Darlo again one Saturday morning so we can all have a bit of a drool. :happy2:  I'm there every week and there's usually a few others.  In fact we'll have to have a mini NE meet there some time!  My black edition CHs arrive today for mk ED30, so I'll be showing those off this week lol.

Golf centre in Darlo? Not sure where that is.. Not been there before I dont think, unless im mistaken  :ashamed:

Yeah up for a little NE meet, free this Sat too..

It's Allan Fishburn's place - he does Revo remaps - unless I'm getting you confused with someone else, I think you've been there with your previous car (white GTI - coilovers, remap, R32 rear bumper, black CHs etc)?

Ah ok yeah, that was aaaages ago haha.. Yeah that was my old Golf..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: TurboTrev on April 16, 2009, 01:00:57 pm
How many mods can one man do, there can't be any more left, but I suspect there are!  Jonny get yourself down to The Golf Centre in Darlo again one Saturday morning so we can all have a bit of a drool. :happy2:  I'm there every week and there's usually a few others.  In fact we'll have to have a mini NE meet there some time!  My black edition CHs arrive today for mk ED30, so I'll be showing those off this week lol.

Golf centre in Darlo? Not sure where that is.. Not been there before I dont think, unless im mistaken  :ashamed:

Yeah up for a little NE meet, free this Sat too..

It's Allan Fishburn's place - he does Revo remaps - unless I'm getting you confused with someone else, I think you've been there with your previous car (white GTI - coilovers, remap, R32 rear bumper, black CHs etc)?

Ah ok yeah, that was aaaages ago haha.. Yeah that was my old Golf..

Yeah, it was ages ago!  I was the old foggey with the black mk5 GTI (since sold) who nearly bought your coilovers. :laugh: Are you up for it - if so, I'l post a message on the board and see if I can get a few more?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 16, 2009, 01:03:52 pm
How many mods can one man do, there can't be any more left, but I suspect there are!  Jonny get yourself down to The Golf Centre in Darlo again one Saturday morning so we can all have a bit of a drool. :happy2:  I'm there every week and there's usually a few others.  In fact we'll have to have a mini NE meet there some time!  My black edition CHs arrive today for mk ED30, so I'll be showing those off this week lol.

Golf centre in Darlo? Not sure where that is.. Not been there before I dont think, unless im mistaken  :ashamed:

Yeah up for a little NE meet, free this Sat too..

It's Allan Fishburn's place - he does Revo remaps - unless I'm getting you confused with someone else, I think you've been there with your previous car (white GTI - coilovers, remap, R32 rear bumper, black CHs etc)?

Ah ok yeah, that was aaaages ago haha.. Yeah that was my old Golf..

Yeah, it was ages ago!  I was the old foggey with the black mk5 GTI (since sold) who nearly bought your coilovers. :laugh: Are you up for it - if so, I'l post a message on the board and see if I can get a few more?

I remember now yeah!! Sure, see if there is anyone up for it, pretty sure I should be able to make it..

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on April 16, 2009, 04:22:06 pm
Hi jonny, My names Tom Cowell and i met you years ago at stokesley college when you had your copper s am a mate of Glen Cummins....
I've been watching your build's for ages and i absolutly love this!!! I've read both your old threads golf and s3, and top respect!

But defo think you should bin the armrest for weight saving and i'll have it  :signLOL: oh and anything else going you should give me a heads up

Am on section 5 as well and i look forward to meeting ya again and seeing this in the flesh rather than flying past between nunthorpe and guisbrough  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 16, 2009, 04:31:23 pm
Hi jonny, My names Tom Cowell and i met you years ago at stokesley college when you had your copper s am a mate of Glen Cummins....
I've been watching your build's for ages and i absolutly love this!!! I've read both your old threads golf and s3, and top respect!

But defo think you should bin the armrest for weight saving and i'll have it  :signLOL: oh and anything else going you should give me a heads up

Am on section 5 as well and i look forward to meeting ya again and seeing this in the flesh rather than flying past between nunthorpe and guisbrough  :signLOL:

Hey mate.. Ah cool, yeah kind of remember, my memory isn't amazing though lol..

Yours is looking good too, should post up on your thread with a few plans etc, what look your after etc..

Dont think there is a lot more to sell out of my car to be honest haha, need everything thats in / on it now lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on April 16, 2009, 04:37:28 pm
Yeah no worries it was a long time ago....

I've got a couple of ideas, might start one to get some more ideas and different opinions, defo some from yourself
but mines going to be a slower process as am just finishing uni so money's tight  :sad:

Too right theres nothing left  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on April 16, 2009, 06:08:34 pm
WOW is all I can say, just got through all 50 odd pages, saw the S3 over on Audi sport and didnt realise you are only 22, hats off to you.

Cant believe I havent caught a glimpse of this thread before now. Im in the same boat as the other guy, finished Uni and need to frame myself and get a job to start modding. 4 weeks and I can be out on the open road again  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Dario on April 17, 2009, 03:39:57 am
 :drinking: jonny ,keep up the good work :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Harm on April 17, 2009, 09:53:43 am
Cant wait to see this in person tearing it up the strip one day!

Loved your Audi and look forward to seeing this finished....

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on April 17, 2009, 07:52:43 pm
What brakes have you gone/going with?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 17, 2009, 09:09:24 pm
What brakes have you gone/going with?

VWR 6 pots..  :happy2: Should have them pretty soon hopefully, will be a huge weight saving and should work great too!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 17, 2009, 10:05:08 pm
....

I've been thinking what I'd do if it was my Candy White. Quite apart from size and weight considerations, I'd choose a white rim. Black rims on white cars are so common now.

Not this particular rim, just to show white + white : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg504.imageshack.us%2Fimg504%2F7134%2Fp8060119ok6.jpg&hash=a0281e067ba3008473f57c1bf6c397fcf079f44e)

:happy2:

^ Much more individual and distinctive without being bling or in yer face.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on April 17, 2009, 10:47:25 pm
^^^Been thinking along the same lines, considering the below at the mo- can anyone with photoshop skill do a mod?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ftt74%2Fprepree1%2Fteam_dynamics_equinox_white.jpg&hash=6e2e536f7375ced31a682e360fd22e834b238578)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 18, 2009, 12:10:37 am
Robin, I very much agree that the black wheel / white car combo is very common now..

When I got my first GTI in white everyone thought I was mad, but white ended up being THE colour to have and again I stuck black wheels on it which was different but now you see it on everything.. I was considering white wheels but I thought they would look tiny in 17's and they would be a nightmare to keep clean etc..

Hmm, maybes ill surprise myself and go for something different lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on April 18, 2009, 12:58:00 am
What brakes have you gone/going with?

VWR 6 pots..  :happy2: Should have them pretty soon hopefully, will be a huge weight saving and should work great too!

Do they fit behind 17" wheels? Who makes VWR's kit?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on April 18, 2009, 03:11:19 am
^^that was my next question, havent you had like 15 sets of wheels on this car since owning it  :signLOL:

Just as bad as the guy with the 400 and odd hp red R32 in the other thread  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on April 18, 2009, 12:50:37 pm
here Jonnyc, I have a great idea for saving some weight again!
swap your heavy aluminium clad pedals for these light weight babies. :happy2: exact same only lighter by a few grams admitidly , but it all counts in the grander scheme of things :wink:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe170%2Fb44fy%2FDSC00451-2.jpg&hash=a662816de64573165688dc4154d39f350ef203ff)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: x5pea on April 18, 2009, 12:53:58 pm
here Jonnyc, I have a great idea for saving some weight again!
swap your heavy aluminium clad pedals for these light weight babies. :happy2: exact same only lighter by a few grams admitidly , but it all counts in the grander scheme of things :wink:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe170%2Fb44fy%2FDSC00451-2.jpg&hash=a662816de64573165688dc4154d39f350ef203ff)
:signLOL:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mixit on April 18, 2009, 01:08:57 pm
why not just pick your nose before you get in.   :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on April 18, 2009, 01:10:02 pm
why not just pick your nose before you get in.   :rolleye:


HEY!  Thats my secret - don't go telling other people  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mixit on April 18, 2009, 01:19:00 pm
I would also consider these as a sure fire weight saver   :evilgrin:

http://www.cosyfeet.com/extra-roomy-lightweight-socks-with-handlinked-toe-cotton-rich-p-54.html
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on April 18, 2009, 03:02:01 pm
Make sure you have a sh......



















...shave aswel  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 21, 2009, 07:25:05 pm
Thanks for the tips guys..  :angry015:  :wink:

Update..

I swapped over the driver seat (fitted to a passenger side base frame) to the passenger side where it belongs today. I also managed to get the whole seat about 25mm lower by removing a few parts, also saves just under 2kg of weight per side! Madness..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05256.jpg&hash=0668cd414c04efbad57ade4766b4cb9dfdc497dd)

These parts are what your meant to use to attach the seat belt buckle, I have removed them and bolted up the seatbelt to a different location on the lower base frame. The buckle is bolted down to a higher gauge steel anchor point than it was originally so if anything its going to be safer!!

The only problem is that the buckle is now bolted the frame and not the seat, so if you slide the seat then the buckle stays with the frame, not a problem for me as Im removing the sliders eventually to save a little more weight and get the seats even lower. Having no rear seats means that I dont need to slide them anyways..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05253.jpg&hash=651b2b0eea978e9ccd46c95ae8b5a73b5a20b6eb)

I also removed all of the trim on the sill so that I could unbolt the seatbelt anchor point at the bottom, removed the belt and then threaded through the seat so that it sits over your body and not the seat when the belt is done up.. The pic also shows the nice cover that I was now able to fit! it really neatens up the sill side of the base frames, makes them look very OEM, which is only a good thing!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05251.jpg&hash=f3217db0836cd4320fe109654e4559342bfc43e3)

This is how the seatbelt sits on the seat now.. Really handy when you get in..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05254.jpg&hash=a9ae66110e5a14f06476e0a6260be45f7ac3de70)

This is when the seat was in the car on the driver side in its standard HIGH seating position..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05238.jpg&hash=d8634a2c9f52855624394758181bf8b7be9e8a4e)

And the new LOW position..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05250.jpg&hash=d6b5e76b7e7f73abb785228a03dab16ab9360495)

This pic shows the orientation between the door and where your sitting, pretty low really.. Just the way I like it!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05255.jpg&hash=7a3127f65af3078a9a38cc076c64c5e4ab48212e)

The other base frame will be with me tomorrow, so I will finally be able to use the car again day to day.. Its a bit lonely with only one seat in it haha..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05249.jpg&hash=bc193a9d8b2fbd9cd950b6feaea056cccc8679db)

The other development is that some of the parts have arrived for the new intake that im making up on the car!

Heres the new air filter! Custom made ITG G60 turbo foam with a 4" inlet.. 180mm diameter and 300mm long!!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05258.jpg&hash=02141beebaa160b20d4f35acfa6e8c5678a4463d)

The air filter is rated to 600hp, which may seem like massive overkill, well it is, but it certainly wont offer any restriction to the engine! The air filter that I had fitted I found out is rated to 375hp.. My car is running around that figure, so in theory its working to its upper limits, not ideal really..

There is unfortunately a delay on the composite parts, and as im away for the next week as of Thursday it means that the intake wont be on the car for a little while! Shame as I was looking forward to seeing how it performed..

May have some pretty exciting news on wheels too soon! Dymag Carbon/Mag 18x8 / ET48 / 5x112 finished in Matte black fitted with some nice big cut slicks..

Heres a teaser!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FWheel_Dymag02.jpg&hash=38fba70b71c6fe33ddeb85e693a26525943e646c)

Not confirmed at the minute but they come in at under 6kg a piece with stupidly low MOI numbers! They would really be a dream addition to the car!

Thats about it for now guys!!

Ill post some pics of both seats in the car tomorrow! (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 182_blue on April 21, 2009, 07:28:50 pm
That poor car  :laugh: , looking good, the rims look nice, bet they are cheap  :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on April 21, 2009, 07:29:54 pm
Seats and wheels are perfect for the car. Very interested in how the filter works out, you chose the right filter so thats a good start  :signLOL:.
Are you venting air from the fog light grills ie m3 csl style? What sort of pipework will you be using?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 21, 2009, 07:34:00 pm
Seats and wheels are perfect for the car. Very interested in how the filter works out, you chose the right filter so thats a good start  :signLOL:.
Are you venting air from the fog light grills ie m3 csl style? What sort of pipework will you be using?

Pipe work will all be made out of Carbon, just waiting on it now.. Taking a while as its custom made, and the company that Im having make it are busy making parts for NASA.. Honestly! lol..

The intake is going to be on as soon as the parts are with me. Then I have something really nice planned, im going to shield off all of the intake, from above the turbo, all the way down to the air filter, all carbon, it'll look amazing, and keep the temps right down..

The air filter will be fed by the OEM scoop, but helped out by the cold air feed that I have coming from the passenger side fog grill..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on April 21, 2009, 07:40:09 pm
oh yeah  :happy2: theres gotta be 0.2 in dymags and cut slicks  :driver: alone
superb job , when you weighing it again?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on April 21, 2009, 07:41:43 pm
Sounds like a very nice setup jonny. Will be a very trick filter and should work extremely well. What you doing with the evoms?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 21, 2009, 07:42:20 pm
oh yeah  :happy2: theres gotta be 0.2 in dymags and cut slicks  :driver: alone
superb job , when you weighing it again?

Haha.. And they look sweeeeeeeeeet!

Probs pretty soon! Ill be able to re-adjust my expectations as to how light ill be able to get it then lol..

Sounds like a very nice setup jonny. Will be a very trick filter and should work extremely well. What you doing with the evoms?

Evoms is sold mate lol.. Sorry
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on April 21, 2009, 07:52:23 pm
Looking good jonny, quick question thats no ones asked, Have you received your build number plaque yet?   :scared: and will it be a light weight version not to undo your great work?  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on April 21, 2009, 07:53:54 pm
This is REALLY starting to get hardcore now Jonny. Can't fault it :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 21, 2009, 08:18:03 pm
Looking good jonny, quick question thats no ones asked, Have you received your build number plaque yet?   :scared: and will it be a light weight version not to undo your great work?  :wink:

Nope not got a plaque actually, how do I go about getting one?

This is REALLY starting to get hardcore now Jonny. Can't fault it :happy2:

Thanks mate, its coming together really nicely, taking a while but getting there!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on April 21, 2009, 08:22:07 pm
I love this thread! Never ceases to amaze me, great work jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on April 21, 2009, 08:40:48 pm
The seats look great, properly hardcore! Please by those wheels! They look class!  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on April 21, 2009, 09:02:01 pm
This thread keeps amazing me!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on April 21, 2009, 09:18:05 pm
This thread rules it really does  :drinking:

loving your work  :happy2:

more more more  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on April 21, 2009, 09:57:18 pm
excellent progress, lovin it   :happy2: :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on April 21, 2009, 10:37:54 pm
Its going to be amazing at GTI International  :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 21, 2009, 11:02:21 pm
....

It just gets better and better!  :happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: oldtomo on April 22, 2009, 12:43:36 pm
This is such a superb thread!

Keep up the good work!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 22, 2009, 01:59:57 pm
Update..

Tadaaaaaa! There finally in!! Got the frames a couple of hours ago and go straight to it, not driven the car yet, but straight away the driving position is 100 times better with the correct frames fitted to each side of the car!

They look and feel great and they are extremely light too, you can pick the whole assembly (seat / frame / rails) up and support it mid air with one finger through one of the belt guides, trust me, I did it lol.. Very light!

Heres some pics of the seats in the car, I think they really look OEM! These are the same seats that Audi installed in the Quattro sport TT a while ago, so kind of keeping in with the OEM VAG look..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05264.jpg&hash=b87d70d16cdc6c1724a0627138198d6a1e07db0e)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05263.jpg&hash=4d27d071ede457817ee4380fb74dd1671caa440c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05262.jpg&hash=ef3d68914ac28220e83c5482dabf3b6c72932cc4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05259.jpg&hash=f08dc55089619b0e224c8ca368255f30b247b010)

This pic really nicely shows up the colour of the shells, they are really high metallic black finish, looks great!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05261.jpg&hash=3edeed65f1a6c1241a9528a66231083af62b8bd4)

The only potential downside of these seats (not that it bothers me one bit) is if you had rear seats in the car, and wanted to use them then its going to be pretty much impossible, yes you can slide the seats fully forward, but its still a pretty tiny gap to squeeze through, and not particularly safe if you needed to get out of the back of the car in a hurry!

Right! What next.. haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 22, 2009, 02:11:05 pm
they look spot on  :happy2:  8)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on April 22, 2009, 02:24:52 pm
They look very  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 22, 2009, 02:33:55 pm
....

Looking.....what's the word?....cunning?.....no.....Stunning!! That's the word.

They breathe quality and fit in very well, both physically and in style.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 22, 2009, 02:36:55 pm
when are the door card coming out and all the heavy glass ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on April 22, 2009, 02:38:56 pm
ORSUM  :happy2:

any idea what the car as a whole weighs at the moment compared to stock form? And agree with Mat ^^ have you considered losing the glass?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 22, 2009, 02:49:37 pm
Mat & VC..

Yes, im replacing the rear 3 windows with 4mm thick tinted polycarbonate, this should take out around 35kg according to VWR. I could go with the 2mm option, but I think it would end up looking like cling film and being very loud etc..

There are loads of bits I still want to do, but just working away at them really, replacing the boot with a carbon item would be ideal as im sure it would save a BIG chunk of weight, then I could just stick the boot on with the poly screen in one go, the only problem is that you can only get the carbon boot from Seibon and even there own press shots show the panel gaps to be all over the place and the rear lights dont level up.. It looks sh*t, and its 90% fibre glass too..  :sad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: oldtomo on April 22, 2009, 02:53:14 pm
....

Looking.....what's the word?....cunning?.....no.....Stunning!! That's the word.

They breathe quality and fit in very well, both physically and in style.


I completely agree!! Superb!!  8)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on April 22, 2009, 02:58:51 pm
so the Seibon lid is just CF skinned? so a matter of form over function then by the sounds of it

2mm does sound a little too wafer thin for me, but it wouldn't be looks that would worry me it would be vibration, 2mm isn't alot and when the sheet gets climate presures such as air, noise, mechanical and finally sunlight and heat then it's lifespan would be shorter surely? The difference of 1mm wouldn't be enough to sway me regardless of weight, plus the 3mm can hold weight on it's surface with a higher margin
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on April 22, 2009, 03:10:32 pm
i'll try that again  :laugh:

look at your rear window, the trailing edge doesn't sit flush to the panel, therefore aerodynamically that corner 'collects' stress in the form of resistance and air pressure as surface forces move over it, therefore the faster you go the more strain that piece will be under, focused from 1 corner, and at 2mm that could be a problem. unless you were to aerodynamically assist the section by either flushing or blending or adding an alice band; an almost flat spoiler shaped onto the bodywork just before the turbulent affected areas - mainly found on drag funny cars though to compensate for looks without suffering loss of performance so a bit extreme  :grin:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on April 22, 2009, 04:04:14 pm
Mat & VC..

Yes, im replacing the rear 3 windows with 4mm thick tinted polycarbonate, this should take out around 35kg according to VWR. I could go with the 2mm option, but I think it would end up looking like cling film and being very loud etc..

There are loads of bits I still want to do, but just working away at them really, replacing the boot with a carbon item would be ideal as im sure it would save a BIG chunk of weight, then I could just stick the boot on with the poly screen in one go, the only problem is that you can only get the carbon boot from Seibon and even there own press shots show the panel gaps to be all over the place and the rear lights dont level up.. It looks sh*t, and its 90% fibre glass too..  :sad:
I wouldn't think boot lid would make a MASSIVE difference any bud judging by how light they feel when closing etc (so much so they never shut properly first time  :fighting:).. But I can't say I have ever held one when not attached to the car, so hard to say..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 22, 2009, 04:12:58 pm
I have held hundreds of boot lids and all other parts of cars and they weigh lots and the doors are silly heavy
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RunRabbit on April 22, 2009, 06:07:11 pm
Mat & VC..

Yes, im replacing the rear 3 windows with 4mm thick tinted polycarbonate, this should take out around 35kg according to VWR. I could go with the 2mm option, but I think it would end up looking like cling film and being very loud etc..

There are loads of bits I still want to do, but just working away at them really, replacing the boot with a carbon item would be ideal as im sure it would save a BIG chunk of weight, then I could just stick the boot on with the poly screen in one go, the only problem is that you can only get the carbon boot from Seibon and even there own press shots show the panel gaps to be all over the place and the rear lights dont level up.. It looks sh*t, and its 90% fibre glass too..  :sad:
I wouldn't think boot lid would make a MASSIVE difference any bud judging by how light they feel when closing etc (so much so they never shut properly first time  :fighting:).. But I can't say I have ever held one when not attached to the car, so hard to say..

That's the gas struts making them feel light, they're uber heavy
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on April 22, 2009, 06:37:21 pm
to complete the look of those sexy Recaro's I'd fit a Rear Strut Brace, then put in a 4 point harness system!!! 

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on April 22, 2009, 06:39:26 pm
Mmmmmmmmmmmm I used to have 4-points in my old Elise....really miss them now!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 22, 2009, 06:42:55 pm
I really like the look of the inside of the Megane R26.R

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2F2770569768_cac1dd9cde_o.jpg&hash=f8db74dc2f44961c5a091f010c26fd775869545c)

To be honest It would just be dead weight though, I dont track the car, and dont plan to, and belts in a road car are a pain in the arse! lol..

Does look pretty funky though..  :laugh:

I really want to get the car tidied up, there is a long list of little bits that need doing, not going to cost much at all, just bits and bobs and details that will bring it all together and improve the overall look and quality level!

Not long until GTI International now!! Has to be FINISHED for then arrghhhh!  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on April 22, 2009, 06:45:45 pm
why don't u want to track the car?

I suppose you have bigger faster toys to play with on track anyway lol.

But it would surprise quite a lot of cars at a "normal" track day i reckon.

 :happy2:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 22, 2009, 06:49:05 pm
why don't u want to track the car?

I suppose you have bigger faster toys to play with on track anyway lol.

But it would surprise quite a lot of cars at a "normal" track day i reckon.

 :happy2:



Well not really anything to do with that, I love driving anything on track, and I mean anything lol..

Just no one to play with usually..  :driver:

I may well take it on a circuit later this year at some point, say if a few of us are there etc..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 22, 2009, 06:55:00 pm

Well not really anything to do with that, I love driving anything on track, and I mean anything lol..

Just no one to play with usually..  :driver:

I may well take it on a circuit later this year at some point, say if a few of us are there etc..


....Plenty of people to play with in a 24hr stint at LeMans soon!

Have you considered CG-Locks?

Linky : - CG Seatbelt Locks Info (http://www.cg-lock.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on April 22, 2009, 06:58:21 pm
why don't u want to track the car?

I suppose you have bigger faster toys to play with on track anyway lol.

But it would surprise quite a lot of cars at a "normal" track day i reckon.

 :happy2:



Well not really anything to do with that, I love driving anything on track, and I mean anything lol..

Just no one to play with usually..  :driver:

I may well take it on a circuit later this year at some point, say if a few of us are there etc..

sounds like an idea for another forum meet.

MSV normally does an exclusive deal with SCN (SeatCupra.net) during the year. Could always tag along with them!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 22, 2009, 07:01:18 pm

Well not really anything to do with that, I love driving anything on track, and I mean anything lol..

Just no one to play with usually..  :driver:

I may well take it on a circuit later this year at some point, say if a few of us are there etc..


....Plenty of people to play with in a 24hr stint at LeMans soon!

Have you considered CG-Locks?

Linky : - CG Seatbelt Locks Info (http://www.cg-lock.co.uk/)

God, tell me about it lol..

Yeah I have driven a Porsche a while back with one fitted, was very good actually, perfect for track days etc!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on April 22, 2009, 07:13:30 pm
Cages can be cool but a pita for a daily car, i had a rear cage in one of my previous cars, worth noting my insurance flew up in price to as they assumed i must be putting a cage in my road car for a reason  :fighting2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 22, 2009, 07:39:48 pm
we so need to meet up at a track as a forum  :rolleye: it would be great
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on April 22, 2009, 07:40:19 pm
+1 !
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on April 22, 2009, 07:42:20 pm
Are these any good to you mate??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110376505034
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 22, 2009, 07:44:06 pm
Are these any good to you mate??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110376505034

Unfortunately not, the offset is a little low on the front wheels and the rears are 10" wide..  :sad:

Wow, that would have been a mega result if they were right! Thanks very much for the heads up on that one  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on April 22, 2009, 07:52:06 pm
Are these any good to you mate??

[ebay]320361302688[/ebay]

should save some weight (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysmiley.net%2Fimgs%2Fsmile%2Finnocent%2Finnocent0009.gif&hash=da16d9d6a5fa36da44423756b134aed47e042cff)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 22, 2009, 07:53:25 pm
Are these any good to you mate??

[ebay]320361302688[/ebay]

should save some weight (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysmiley.net%2Fimgs%2Fsmile%2Finnocent%2Finnocent0009.gif&hash=da16d9d6a5fa36da44423756b134aed47e042cff)


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on April 22, 2009, 08:15:56 pm
we so need to meet up at a track as a forum  :rolleye: it would be great

Definately, bedford autodrome gets my vote :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on April 22, 2009, 09:16:21 pm
we so need to meet up at a track as a forum  :rolleye: it would be great

Definately, bedford autodrome gets my vote :happy2:

....How about starting a new thread for this?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on April 22, 2009, 09:28:13 pm
I may well take it on a circuit later this year at some point, say if a few of us are there etc..

Croft?

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on April 22, 2009, 11:01:26 pm
....

Looking.....what's the word?....cumming?.....no.....Stunning!! That's the word.


Now now Robin, no need to be vulgar  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on April 22, 2009, 11:11:54 pm
The Nissan GTR Owners Club have forum meets on track - they don't mess about  :rolleye:  Maybe we should organise one?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on April 23, 2009, 09:34:09 am
Grab a few mates and get your ass over to the 'Ring in 4 weeks with my lot - there's plenty to play with there!

Oh, and back on topic - I got thinking after your phone call last night about wheels and remembered this place.

http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=502_519&products_id=4313

My mate bought a Ti exhaust off them for his bike which they brought in straight from Italy much cheaper than anyone else was doing them... I can't remember the exact story as to how they did it, but I think they have links with some main supplier over in Italy and bypass the usual routes?

It's possible they can do the same with the 2021's, so they may be able to get you Mg ones in smaller quantities?

Certainly worth a phone call.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 23, 2009, 10:26:22 pm
Cheers Mike, I'll give them a try when I'm back!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 04, 2009, 12:24:58 pm
Update..

Custom carbon intake system

Just to keep this fully up to date..

As some of you may know I got some parts whilst I was away, couldn't resist taking some pics!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05265.jpg&hash=a9a4000ae8d5800d0be9f4096f8f35f9a9cac920)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05266.jpg&hash=8f033b43acf8c174fba3dba9eda47de529cec07b)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05267.jpg&hash=910e1e1cf951b70418f9bf01cb7aed015c914d62)

And pre assembled (obviously without the MAF housing/turbo bend at the mo)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05268.jpg&hash=b96cfd5262cbc65d8afbe4bda2599de2fb52ba2a)

I got the intake onto the car, after a lot of work to make it fit! That filter is pretty huge.. Its rated to 650hp+ That could be seen as massive over kill, and it kind of is, but I wanted to fit the largest filter I possibly could on the car, this is what I ended up with!

Pretty pleased with how it looks!! Goes well too!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05270.jpg&hash=defa79e5d8832127fbb1aa2560837e85d7cf70f4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05271.jpg&hash=62d3c35b79c58cd86c38ebc4be3fde74975927fd)

Initial impressions are good, it seems the car is a little more willing to rev out top end, and the whole intake system weights just under 2kg now, down from the standard air box which weights in at around 8kg

There is still things to do to finish off the full system.. Im planning on shrouding off all of the intake from the engine bay with a custom carbon fibre heatshield which will run from the above the turbo, right round the side of the engine and stop at the filter heatshield, this should be the last measure at keeping the heat out.

All the underside of the heatshielding will be covered with heat resistant matting, the stuff is used to protect carbon flat floors from the heat of exhausts, so its going to be up to the job!

To feed in the filter with air, im still running a venturi duct from the fog grill and obviously there is also the OEM scoop..

The car is going back in to VW Racing on Wednesday for a few days, just for a general health check and a couple more goodies!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on May 04, 2009, 12:38:57 pm
tasty tasty tasty   :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on May 06, 2009, 12:37:03 am
I want to see a 10 second run for that sort of money  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 06, 2009, 07:33:50 am

I want to see a 10 second run for that sort of money  :party:


....It's a Geometric Progression - The increases in expenditure yield less increments in performance as those performance statistics are improved.

So, for anyone who doesn't understand those terms, it costs more and more for achieving smaller and smaller gains in achieving higher and higher performance.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on May 06, 2009, 07:42:00 am
looks great :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 06, 2009, 10:05:26 am

I want to see a 10 second run for that sort of money  :party:


....It's a Geometric Progression - The increases in expenditure yield less increments in performance as those performance statistics are improved.

So, for anyone who doesn't understand those terms, it costs more and more for achieving smaller and smaller gains in achieving higher and higher performance.

Exponential spending  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 06, 2009, 10:21:16 am

I want to see a 10 second run for that sort of money  :party:


....It's a Geometric Progression - The increases in expenditure yield less increments in performance as those performance statistics are improved.

So, for anyone who doesn't understand those terms, it costs more and more for achieving smaller and smaller gains in achieving higher and higher performance.

Exponential spending  :wink:


...Exponential is the perfect word! I always wondered what it meant.

More and more rapid expenditure = More and more rapid progress. :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on May 06, 2009, 11:47:26 am
Do you have the dimensions for the parts you have used, i was thinking the other day that it couldnt be too hard to make up an intake, obviously to a lesser standard than what you have bought  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 06, 2009, 11:58:30 am
Do you have the dimensions for the parts you have used, i was thinking the other day that it couldnt be too hard to make up an intake, obviously to a lesser standard than what you have bought  :drool:

3" tube, just make sure that it fits to space that you have.. The key part is the MAF housing and turbo bend..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on May 06, 2009, 06:18:17 pm

I want to see a 10 second run for that sort of money  :party:


....It's a Geometric Progression - The increases in expenditure yield less increments in performance as those performance statistics are improved.

So, for anyone who doesn't understand those terms, it costs more and more for achieving smaller and smaller gains in achieving higher and higher performance.

Sarcasm is wasted on forums.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 06, 2009, 06:40:25 pm

I want to see a 10 second run for that sort of money  :party:


....It's a Geometric Progression - The increases in expenditure yield less increments in performance as those performance statistics are improved.

So, for anyone who doesn't understand those terms, it costs more and more for achieving smaller and smaller gains in achieving higher and higher performance.

Sarcasm is wasted on forums.


....Chase The Vision and not The Dollar.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Rich on May 06, 2009, 08:54:58 pm
Nice audi...


Jeeezzz man... 417bhp... that just a 911 killer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jumping: :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on May 07, 2009, 12:51:02 am
Nice audi...


Jeeezzz man... 417bhp... that just a 911 killer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jumping: :jumping:

Remember Jonny saying the ED30 is faster?

S3 Killer  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 07, 2009, 11:54:49 am
Yeah for sure, the Golf is faster. Remember, weight is the enemy lol..

Just a small note..

The car is with VW Racing now until Monday.. Let's just say that there is going to be quite an update when I get home!!

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on May 07, 2009, 10:22:52 pm
Ive thought about moving the battery to the boot, did that ever cross your mind jonny?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Golfster S on May 08, 2009, 05:26:53 pm
That new Intake looks the dogs danglies.......

Rich..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 08, 2009, 06:20:38 pm
Ive thought about moving the battery to the boot, did that ever cross your mind jonny?

Wouldn't really help much though.. It would be quite a bit of work sticking all of the wiring into the car..

The benefits would obviously be weight distribution, and also of would give you a little bit more room for the intake in the engine bay..

It has been done though..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 08, 2009, 06:48:26 pm
Yeah for sure, the Golf is faster. Remember, weight is the enemy lol..

Just a small note..

The car is with VW Racing now until Monday.. Let's just say that there is going to be quite an update when I get home!!

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


might pop over to blakelands to have a look. :wink:

what time you picking it up on monday??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 08, 2009, 08:23:30 pm
Should be around 2 ish.. Yeah pop over, you will probably end up seeing it before me! Ha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 11, 2009, 06:39:43 pm
So how was the drive home Jonny?!...  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 11, 2009, 09:12:31 pm
So how was the drive home Jonny?!...  :wink:

I hope your sat down?? lol..

Update..

So!!! I dropped off the car with Sam and Mark at VW Racing on Wednesday, I was away all weekend so they had the car until today, so plenty of time to get through the jobs that I wanted doing!! Quite a long list really..

Before I go into it all, the car is AMAZING now, and my god im keeping this thing and im going to make it a bloody animal.. I have decided lol.. (quote this if I ever talk about selling it again)

Here we go..

First of all I wanted a quick health check on the car, so the engine oil / filter was changed along with a check on the plugs and cam follower. The plugs looked fine and the cam follower was in perfect condition.. Thats with an Autotech fuel pump, running it hard all of the time! Its been in there for just over 12k miles now, so to anyone doubting the Autotech..

The next job was to get rid of some more weight, the following parts were to be removed..

* Air con pipes, compressor and rad
* Fog lights
* Headlight washer system
* Rear seatbelts
* Misc brackets
* One horn
* Front and rear arch liners

Removing the parts..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00014.jpg&hash=8bfceeb254499378611b851e7039c3f07b0eaa3a)

Air con system..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00015.jpg&hash=1617411318c88f4b76581ab2aa71ced8ef7144e8)

The air con removal is a big job, the system needs de gassing, removing then a shorter belt fitted as the compressor is not present..

Plus headlight washers and fogs..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00016.jpg&hash=b64a1026fdf4e0a2c3532623435abcb72b34aaed)

I never use air con or fog lights, so its not a problem for me at all.. The headlight washers needed to come out anyways as they were broken from being iced up over the winter.. No point fitting another set! ha..

The car needed plugging in to get rid of the codes thrown by the fogs and the headlight washers being removed, not a big problem..

The next thing on the list was to fit these..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00017.jpg&hash=f45cf56f925af247504e8fdc99a27736613d5820)

The suspension is a race set up from a one make GTI championship.. They are extremely light weight but non adjustable, not a problem for the road, but for a race car not ideal so VWR changed them to some KW Clubsport dampers, overkill for the road in my opinion as once they are right then you will never use the adjustment again..

Anyways that all means that I now have a fantastic damper set up on my car.. The damping is ok for the road, yes its hard but very progressive and controlled.. Im going to go with some stiffer shorter springs in the front to control the car a little better, but im pretty pleased with them as a start!

And these..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00018.jpg&hash=afc3c6ee4ba52f9670f88e52573aeb81e3b175e4)

Again, these brakes are fitted to most of the VWR Cup cars, there a good set up made by WP.. They are perfect for the road, progressive, light weight and reasonably priced too..

I have a different set of brakes being made up, but they are going to take about 4 weeks, so these are going to be a stop gap! A very good one at that though!!!

Both fitted..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00029.jpg&hash=33fa491ac68604261e6be6193fe0ce3d52d0ed10)

Some more pics..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00021.jpg&hash=21591d2aeabd4eba2b45ee9227f7a4f536ef7ab5)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00026.jpg&hash=f61ebce5209a835e921500793a929e1f34dbe79c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC00027.jpg&hash=a65f53366de4a550cd3f67a1b9181cd4e1e1c97e)

I wanted a pretty aggressive set up on the car, and Mark was able to achieve the settings that I wanted..

I have the KW camber adjustable top mounts, we spun them round to run max caster, this ended up with 2.2 degrees negative front camber (with the top mount maxed out) which is ok with the amount of caster that were running.

Running the top mount for max caster adjustment also raises the front roll centre which is nice on a low car..

Toes were set at 1.5mm toe in across the front, nice and positive, feels great..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FRear.jpg&hash=ea4e08aebcecd26711c98ed14305ccf5dcbdca43)

Rear we went for 2.2 degrees negative camber and toes were set to neutral, this makes the rear nice and responsive..

Im going to dial in a little more static rake into the car when I get the shorter front springs, this should make it a little better also..

So some of you are thinking thats all a bit pointless removing them bits etc etc..

Before..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FBefore.jpg&hash=0268a04ab274db22b202da39cd6e59db4b47e09d)

After..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FAfter.jpg&hash=01ae38c8c96b8c639c874ad77281e52c0c300db3)

The car had 3/4 tank of fuel (approx 35kg) and the spare wheel and tool kit in place, this is usually out of the car, just had it in as it is a long trip for me to VWR and I didnt fancy having no spare..

That would put the base weight (without fuel) at just over 1225kg, not bad really.. Consider the weight of other cars that have been measured and you know just how much has come out of it!!

The car feels amazing, again weight is the enemy here and its really made a big difference having a further 53kg out of the car!!

The brakes are great and new suspension / set up, although pretty extreme for a road set up, and probably not to many peoples tastes either.. I love it! Its just what I want from the car..

The biggest shock however is the difference that removing the air con has made, the engine revs far quicker (due to the fact that its not driving the AC pump any more) and it feels as if the intercooler is working better, not really a surprise when you consider the AC rad sits directly in front of the OEM intercooler..

Anyways! Its awesome, im happy and the car is even quicker now!

Big thanks to all at VWR, can't say enough good stuff about those guys, mega work!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on May 11, 2009, 09:25:55 pm
Thats some stirling work done there, that aircon rad must soak the 'cooler like hell.

Good progress - sub 11's FTW!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on May 11, 2009, 09:29:09 pm
Its getting seriously hardcore. Absolutely amazing.   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on May 11, 2009, 09:31:32 pm
WOW


...just



WOW

 :jumping:

This is without doubt my favourite car on this forum at the moment, it's almost pornographic  :grin:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on May 11, 2009, 09:35:11 pm
What weight saving is to come Jonny? And what did the car start with before the weight saving (i.e. a factory spec ED30 DSG? 1350kg?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on May 11, 2009, 09:37:18 pm
great read yet again jonny! getting hardcore now!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: keith on May 11, 2009, 09:39:02 pm
Loving those R-logo calipers how much are those :happy2: top job.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 11, 2009, 09:47:06 pm
Cheers guys, yep its getting a bit silly now, just what we want haha..

What weight saving is to come Jonny? And what did the car start with before the weight saving (i.e. a factory spec ED30 DSG? 1350kg?

Well Robins car was almost 1500kg.. The listed weight for our cars is pretty optimistic lol..

Loving those R-logo calipers how much are those :happy2: top job.

Speak to Sam at VWR  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 11, 2009, 09:47:26 pm
Thats some stirling work done there, that aircon rad must soak the 'cooler like hell.

Good progress - sub 11's FTW!

he'll need serious power to get to sub 11's IMO - 500bhp or more i reckon and slicks.  James Hodson's 1.8T'd Mk2 can do it, but its fully stripped, has a wee shot of NOS, and uses Hoosier DOT drag slicks!

So those VWR 6 pots are actually Winner Power jobbies from the Far East....interesting.  Looked at the WP stuff some time ago.

That's some serious front camber you're running tho!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on May 11, 2009, 09:52:20 pm
superb jonny  :happy2:
made me laugh when  you said those brakes are just a stopgap  :laugh:
cant wait for the next pod run ......
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 11, 2009, 10:23:40 pm
Living the dream for everyone Jonny :happy2:

1275kg with the spare in and 3/4 of a tank is quite frankly a stunning weight to get down to :surprised:

You will have to put something heavy INTO the car though......an chain and anchor, so you can chuck it out if it tries to float away on a light breeze :laugh:

What is next on the list? lighter wheels if I remember?
Probably some CF panels?
More power?

 :jumping: :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 12, 2009, 12:01:12 am
Bloody amazing mate and yeah that was me behind you at 23.25 on Guisborough Road going onto Mallowdale!  Thanks for giving it some poke for me, it sounds absolutely amazing!  :driver:

Seriously I have been around A LOT of tuned cars, it's what I used to do, but I have never heard a 2 litre sound as reminiscent of a Lamborghini as your Golf sounded tonight!  :mad: Absolutely fantastic, you had me cheering like a groupie and I can't wait for the fun to begin on mine now!!!  :happy2:
 
One vulturistic question though, please can I have first refusal on the brakes?!  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 12:21:13 am
Bloody amazing mate and yeah that was me behind you at 23.25 on Guisborough Road going onto Mallowdale!  Thanks for giving it some poke for me, it sounds absolutely amazing!  :driver:

Seriously I have been around A LOT of tuned cars, it's what I used to do, but I have never heard a 2 litre sound as reminiscent of a Lamborghini as your Golf sounded tonight!  :mad: Absolutely fantastic, you had me cheering like a groupie and I can't wait for the fun to begin on mine now!!!  :happy2:
 
One vulturistic question though, please can I have first refusal on the brakes?!  :wink:

Hehe!! Quite loud isn't it..

Sure, send me a PM tomorrow or something and we can have a meet up and sort something out  :happy2:

Take you out for a quick spin too if you fancy..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 12, 2009, 12:22:42 am
Bloody amazing mate and yeah that was me behind you at 23.25 on Guisborough Road going onto Mallowdale!  Thanks for giving it some poke for me, it sounds absolutely amazing!  :driver:

Seriously I have been around A LOT of tuned cars, it's what I used to do, but I have never heard a 2 litre sound as reminiscent of a Lamborghini as your Golf sounded tonight!  :mad: Absolutely fantastic, you had me cheering like a groupie and I can't wait for the fun to begin on mine now!!!  :happy2:
 
One vulturistic question though, please can I have first refusal on the brakes?!  :wink:

Hehe!! Quite loud isn't it..

Sure, send me a PM tomorrow or something and we can have a meet up and sort something out  :happy2:

Take you out for a quick spin too if you fancy..

That'd be great mate thanks very much, I'll send you a message in the morning!...  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on May 12, 2009, 01:18:23 am
Mental... in a good way  :drool: :drool: :drool: 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on May 12, 2009, 07:34:27 am
crazy. can this car get any better?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on May 12, 2009, 09:44:49 am
Brilliant matey, im interested to see the brakes that are being made up  :party: :party:

If your going to turn it into even more of an animal does this mean BT  :scared: :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 12, 2009, 11:23:06 am
looking good mate but there is no chance of getting it down to 1000kg unless u lose all the interior and add carbon fibre doors and plexi glass, it would be mad as fook if you did but 300kg is a lot to lose
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: TurboTrev on May 12, 2009, 11:32:16 am
Just when I think nothing more can be done, more mods are made - awesome. :happy2: 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 11:49:32 am
looking good mate but there is no chance of getting it down to 1000kg unless u lose all the interior and add carbon fibre doors and plexi glass, it would be mad as fook if you did but 300kg is a lot to lose

I agree.. I just wish that I had weighed the car before I did anything to it  :sad: Then I would know for sure how much has been saved.. My best guess is that mine weighted around 1395KG completely standard, that means that I have got 170kg out of it up to now. I feel that this is pretty accurate now based on what I have weighted coming out of the car etc..

With the plans that I have remaining for the weight saving I should have another 90KG or so to come out, which would get the base weight down to around 1140kg which is looking like the most achievable weight to get down to without stripping the thing out.. Something that I really didnt want to do..

That would be achieved by the following parts..

* INTERIOR SOUND DEADENING REMOVAL
* OEM TT FRONT BOTTOM ARMS
* CARBON FRONT WINGS
* ALUMINIUM REAR SUSPENSION
* CARBON BOOT + POLYCARBONATE REAR SCREEN
* POLYCARBONATE REAR WINDOWS
* REMOVE SPARE WHEEL WELL / CARBON BOOT FLOOR
* DYMAG CARBON/MAG RIMS - 18X8 5X112 ET40

Power to weight ratio at the min is around 300hp/tonne and just with this extra weight saving it should hit almost 325hp/tonne..

I have some pretty mad plans as always, its getting there, just a slow process unfortunately..

The plan is to get it at a track day some time soon and see what it can do.. Ideally I want to compare the time to a BTCC car, I think the car is capable of being faster round a lap whilst still being fully road legal, that would be pretty cool!  :laugh:

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on May 12, 2009, 11:55:43 am
Im glad youve said you dont want to completely strip out the car.

at the moment the car is an absolutely bonkers modded mk5 gti.

i think it would loose its road car roots if it was stripped completely. then its punching in the track car arena.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on May 12, 2009, 11:56:35 am
Count me in for that track day, I'll keep note of how many times you go around me!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 12, 2009, 11:59:51 am
Count me in for that track day, I'll keep note of how many times you go around me!!

we so need this  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 12:02:30 pm
Im glad youve said you dont want to completely strip out the car.

at the moment the car is an absolutely bonkers modded mk5 gti.

i think it would loose its road car roots if it was stripped completely. then its punching in the track car arena.

Yeah exactly, the car is my daily so I dont want it to become a stripped out track machine, that just looks sh*t anyways on the road..

Really the car look pretty much OEM, once I tidy a few bits up then the untrained eye wouldnt spot the difference between standard and my car (Apart from it being low and having different wheels).. Thats the aim really..

There are loads of little things that need doing to it to just make it all come together from a looks point of view..

* White bonnet
* Vinyl details exterior and interior
* Alcantara and carbon interior
* Carbon blanks for fogs
* Tidy up cold air feed
* Carbon heatshields for intake

The list goes on.. lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 12, 2009, 03:41:59 pm
Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on May 12, 2009, 05:23:11 pm
you seen these johny , not sure if there any good but look okay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEIBON-06-08-VW-Golf-GTI-Carbon-Fiber-Trunk-Lid-OEM-MK5_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce8c60afbQQitemZ330322807547QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories , http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEIBON-06-08-VW-Golf-GTI-Carbon-Fiber-2-Doors-MK5-MKV_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a2Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce8c60710QQitemZ330322806544QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories ,
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 05:34:02 pm
you seen these johny , not sure if there any good but look okay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEIBON-06-08-VW-Golf-GTI-Carbon-Fiber-Trunk-Lid-OEM-MK5_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce8c60afbQQitemZ330322807547QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories , http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEIBON-06-08-VW-Golf-GTI-Carbon-Fiber-2-Doors-MK5-MKV_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a2Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce8c60710QQitemZ330322806544QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories ,

The boot looks ok, it just doesn't fit perfectly.. And I wouldn't buy a 'Carbon fibre' product that is 90% fibre glass.. Which unfortunately is the case for all of the products out there at the minute apart from VWR's bonnet..

Im probably going to have to go down the custom route, but thats going to be expensive!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 12, 2009, 06:17:19 pm
So how was the drive home Jonny?!...  :wink:

I hope your sat down?? lol..


The next job was to get rid of some more weight, the following parts were to be removed..

* Air con pipes, compressor and rad
* Fog lights
* Headlight washer system
* Rear seatbelts
* Misc brackets
* One horn
* Front and rear arch liners

Removing the parts..

Air con system..

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The air con removal is a big job, the system needs de gassing, removing then a shorter belt fitted as the compressor is not present..

Plus headlight washers and fogs..

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I never use air con or fog lights, so its not a problem for me at all.. The headlight washers needed to come out anyways as they were broken from being iced up over the winter.. No point fitting another set! ha..

The car needed plugging in to get rid of the codes thrown by the fogs and the headlight washers being removed, not a big problem..

The car feels amazing, again weight is the enemy here and its really made a big difference having a further 53kg out of the car!!

The brakes are great and new suspension / set up, although pretty extreme for a road set up, and probably not to many peoples tastes either.. I love it! Its just what I want from the car..

The biggest shock however is the difference that removing the air con has made, the engine revs far quicker (due to the fact that its not driving the AC pump any more) and it feels as if the intercooler is working better, not really a surprise when you consider the AC rad sits directly in front of the OEM intercooler..

Anyways! Its awesome, im happy and the car is even quicker now!

Big thanks to all at VWR, can't say enough good stuff about those guys, mega work!

Removing air con.  Keep thinking about doing this...

What is left in the way of hot / cold heating / cooling? Anything or nothing?  Sorry if its an obvious answer

Many thanks

And Mental Mk5 WOW ! ! !
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 06:25:47 pm
All of the heater has been kept in the car, that would be going a bit far lol..

Just no air con thats all..

Do it, its well worth it.. But if you do it your kind of limiting who would want to buy the car, thats the only potential trouble..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jhtrophy on May 12, 2009, 06:48:52 pm
wow!!! is your car running nearly 370 bhp!! must be to get 300bhp per tonne!! nice one, that thing will be awsome on track mate!! :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 12, 2009, 06:57:49 pm
All of the heater has been kept in the car, that would be going a bit far lol..

Just no air con thats all..

Do it, its well worth it.. But if you do it your kind of limiting who would want to buy the car, thats the only potential trouble..

Decided :)  She needs to go on a diet and your weapon has got me motivated and inspired me... 

could always be refitted later?? if i was to sell...
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on May 12, 2009, 06:59:06 pm
:happy2:
wow!!! is your car running nearly 370 bhp!! must be to get 300bhp per tonne!! nice one, that thing will be awsome on track mate!! :happy2:
Needs to go on  a set of dyno dynamics rollers to find out .
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 07:01:45 pm
wow!!! is your car running nearly 370 bhp!! must be to get 300bhp per tonne!! nice one, that thing will be awsome on track mate!! :happy2:

Yep, basically all of the bolt on's with K04 and Revo Stage 2+.. There is maybe a little more to come, im working on something a bit trick..

All of the heater has been kept in the car, that would be going a bit far lol..

Just no air con thats all..

Do it, its well worth it.. But if you do it your kind of limiting who would want to buy the car, thats the only potential trouble..

Decided :)  She needs to go on a diet and your weapon has got me motivated and inspired me... 

could always be refitted later?? if i was to sell...

Haha, do it yeah! Yep you would be able to re fit it..

Bare in mind though that its the thick end of £300 to have it removed.. And same again to fit it.. I know your capable of making your own mind up, just its not a cheap 'mod' lol.. Around 10kg of weight off the front end though!

:happy2:
wow!!! is your car running nearly 370 bhp!! must be to get 300bhp per tonne!! nice one, that thing will be awsome on track mate!! :happy2:
Needs to go on  a set of dyno dynamics rollers to find out .

I'd love to have a real figure for the car actually, but going off what others have, and considering mine has a lot more done to it, then 360-370hp is a pretty safe bet.. Could be more!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jamiekip on May 12, 2009, 07:05:17 pm

The plan is to get it at a track day some time soon and see what it can do.. Ideally I want to compare the time to a BTCC car, I think the car is capable of being faster round a lap whilst still being fully road legal, that would be pretty cool!  :laugh:


I'm in for this - would be an awesome sight!  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on May 12, 2009, 07:14:05 pm
Wow, great stuff happening jonny, sounds extreme   :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 12, 2009, 08:09:14 pm
you must be tempted with the laughing gas surely jonny.....or maybe a bit of Water/Methanol Injection perhaps.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on May 12, 2009, 08:27:22 pm
snow performace would really push it to the limit!!! should see another 10-15bhp with snow performance stage 2 kit (water/methanol) i have seen people get an extra 60-70bhp by fitting snow performance to there car's
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 08:54:42 pm
you must be tempted with the laughing gas surely jonny.....or maybe a bit of Water/Methanol Injection perhaps.  :happy2:

W/M is on the way along with larger injectors, more boost and some other bits.. Im really interested to see what we can make on the K04 turbo..

Its not going to gain a huge amount of top end power, as that is limited by the flow of the turbo itself but for sure we can raise the mid range up.. Eg, it may make 350hp+ but as low as 4000rpm then 380ish at 7500rpm.. Its not just the peak power that is important, but I suppose that is what grabs the attention! haha..

The next goal will be 500hp, if im going to go big turbo then im going to do it properly first time round.. So rods, pistons, custom turbo kit, custom tune, DSG clutches etc etc etc..

I want to get some big wheels and tyres on the car before then though, the car can cope with the power it has now with no problem what so ever, honestly.. But 500hp will be too much.. So ill go for a 9" rim with 265/35/18 cut slicks.. Another 30mm contact patch should help!   :happy2:

Big plans for this car.. My aim is to have the best all round (ROAD) GTI in the world.. Some of the guys in the states have loads of power but I would put good money on my car being right up there if there was a few corners thrown in  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 12, 2009, 09:26:31 pm
hehe now you're talking.

i'm thinking GT30/35 will be in your plans. but there ain't THAT much room in the engine bay.

7500rpm? How you planning to raise the rev limiter to that level?

no idea what the rev limit of the ED30 is, but can you ping 7k rpm at the mo?

You'll need to get a proper Intake Mani made up too I reckon. wow this is gonna cost a lot of ££££'s.

We're all rooting for ya jonny!  :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 12, 2009, 09:45:55 pm
hehe now you're talking.

i'm thinking GT30/35 will be in your plans. but there ain't THAT much room in the engine bay.

7500rpm? How you planning to raise the rev limiter to that level?

no idea what the rev limit of the ED30 is, but can you ping 7k rpm at the mo?

You'll need to get a proper Intake Mani made up too I reckon. wow this is gonna cost a lot of ££££'s.

We're all rooting for ya jonny!  :jumping:

Mine has been revving up to 7700rpm for the last 5 months  :wink:

Plan is a GT30 based housing, billet compressor wheel, anti-surge inlet, metal bearing cages, WRC bearings, 76mm exhaust wheel, ceramic coated etc etc..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 12, 2009, 09:52:21 pm

Mine has been revving up to 7700rpm for the last 5 months  :wink:


Holy S**T!!!  Didn't think the stock valve/springs would handle those kind of revs lol. 


Plan is a GT30 based housing, billet compressor wheel, anti-surge inlet, metal bearing cages, WRC bearings, 76mm exhaust wheel, ceramic coated etc etc..


Sounds like you've been researching and planning for quite some time. Who are you gonna ask to MAP the bugger? Also you gonna stick with the Bosch MED9 ECU or go aftermarket like MoTeC, and map in some anti-lag pops and bangs!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on May 12, 2009, 10:40:36 pm
Crazy guy...need to see your car in the flesh one day, just over Bradford area...if your ever out testing give me a shout, I can be a cameraman  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 13, 2009, 12:34:54 am
7700 rpm :surprised: :drool:

500bhp :surprised: :drool:

265/35 rubber :surprised: :drool:

DSG Clutchplates :surprised: :drool:

Don't say anymore Jonny, my head feels like it's going to explode already :happy2:

Don't mention the dymagggggggggsssssssssss..............aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhh


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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 12:37:48 am

Mine has been revving up to 7700rpm for the last 5 months  :wink:


Holy S**T!!!  Didn't think the stock valve/springs would handle those kind of revs lol. 


Plan is a GT30 based housing, billet compressor wheel, anti-surge inlet, metal bearing cages, WRC bearings, 76mm exhaust wheel, ceramic coated etc etc..


Sounds like you've been researching and planning for quite some time. Who are you gonna ask to MAP the bugger? Also you gonna stick with the Bosch MED9 ECU or go aftermarket like MoTeC, and map in some anti-lag pops and bangs!  :laugh:

There are cars revving over 8k in the states on the standard valve train, and have been for quite a while..

It would stay on Bosh management and would go to Revo, the only people that I would have map it really..

Crazy guy...need to see your car in the flesh one day, just over Bradford area...if your ever out testing give me a shout, I can be a cameraman  :happy2:


Get yourself to a meet!  :happy2:

7700 rpm :surprised: :drool:

500bhp :surprised: :drool:

265/35 rubber :surprised: :drool:

DSG Clutchplates :surprised: :drool:

Don't say anymore Jonny, my head feels like it's going to explode already :happy2:

Don't mention the dymagggggggggsssssssssss..............aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhh


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Lol.. With big turbo ill rev it to 8k..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 13, 2009, 12:48:04 am
JBS twin scroll? :drool:

Superfast wind-up with very little lag and top power :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on May 13, 2009, 12:52:11 am
Great work as usual Jonny. Loving your work.

Two questions though, if I may?

1) What's different/special about the TT suspension arms? And are they a direct swap?

2) Doesn't the DSG change up at specific RPM (even in M) therefore negating any raise in the rev limit - or am I missing something? Is this is a soft limiter that is just lifted with mapping?


Also, just found out that I should be at Le Mans 24hrs so will be cheering, albeit quietly, for you - I'm hopefully going with a mate from MAHLE in a 'mule' that needs some mileage put on it so will be hanging around the Audi's, but will keep a little AML flag in my pocket for you guys!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 13, 2009, 01:02:16 am
1. I believe the TT versions are aluminium aren't they Jonny!

2. OEM DSG software changes up at specific revs. There are already several software upgrades for the DSG out there :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on May 13, 2009, 01:07:51 am
There are already several software upgrades for the DSG out there :happy2:

I know that HPA and someone else are offering MCU software upgrades in the US, but I wasn't aware of anything being readily available in the UK currently? Have I misses something - who's offering what over here?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 13, 2009, 01:29:40 am
I'm off to get mine done by a GIAC dealer tomorrow :happy2:

There could be others :innocent:


EDIT......Today :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Dario on May 13, 2009, 02:43:49 am
nice update :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 10:26:19 am
Great work as usual Jonny. Loving your work.

Two questions though, if I may?

1) What's different/special about the TT suspension arms? And are they a direct swap?

2) Doesn't the DSG change up at specific RPM (even in M) therefore negating any raise in the rev limit - or am I missing something? Is this is a soft limiter that is just lifted with mapping?


Also, just found out that I should be at Le Mans 24hrs so will be cheering, albeit quietly, for you - I'm hopefully going with a mate from MAHLE in a 'mule' that needs some mileage put on it so will be hanging around the Audi's, but will keep a little AML flag in my pocket for you guys!

TT arms are aluminium, so a little bit lighter, not sure how much though.. I would guess a couple of KG each.. The big thing is that they have eccentric bolt holes so you can dial in just under 0.5 degrees negative on the bottom arm.. Better to do it there than on the top mount if possible.. I should be able to get to 2.7 degrees negative then, with a LOAD of caster too..

Yes the standard DSG does, but who said mine was standard  :wink:

Ah cool, make sure you come over to the garage at some point  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on May 13, 2009, 11:33:36 am
Cheers Jonny - and Hurdy. I did assumed you weren't running standard software, just wanted to check. Are you able to say what remap you have Jonny?

Hurdy - I take it that the GIAC upgrade has been rolled out across the UK dealer network then? There's no mention of International availability on the GIAC site and nothing on Regal's site either.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 11:40:33 am
Cheers Jonny - and Hurdy. I did assumed you weren't running standard software, just wanted to check. Are you able to say what remap you have Jonny?

Hurdy - I take it that the GIAC upgrade has been rolled out across the UK dealer network then? There's no mention of International availability on the GIAC site and nothing on Regal's site either.

Not at the min, but like I have said before.. Its well worth the wait (Hurdy!!)  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 13, 2009, 12:15:36 pm
Thats some stirling work done there, that aircon rad must soak the 'cooler like hell.

Good progress - sub 11's FTW!

He'd have to beat this car then

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 01:38:18 pm
Thats some stirling work done there, that aircon rad must soak the 'cooler like hell.

Good progress - sub 11's FTW!

He'd have to beat this car then



Not going to happen without drag slicks and at least another 200hp haha.. He gets half a second on me on the launch too, thats would get me down to a 12.1 and thats just with K04 power..

Bare in mind that car has 600WHP (roughly 700 crank hp)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 13, 2009, 03:06:14 pm
^^^^
Also, isn't Jonny priding himself on producing a road car that's ultra fast, rather than a specialist car with drag slicks and special fuel etc.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 13, 2009, 06:21:25 pm
it'll be tough keeping it as a road car with a GT30 on board i'd say. Will be a bit laggy, and power range will be moved up...but he'll love it when it comes on boost! should put a half cage in at that point IMO, safety reasons.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 06:30:36 pm
it'll be tough keeping it as a road car with a GT30 on board i'd say. Will be a bit laggy, and power range will be moved up...but he'll love it when it comes on boost! should put a half cage in at that point IMO, safety reasons.

GT30 on this engine spools at 3500rpm.. So no different to K04, pretty amazing, but with good tuning it is possible..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2009, 06:43:09 pm
it'll be tough keeping it as a road car with a GT30 on board i'd say. Will be a bit laggy, and power range will be moved up...but he'll love it when it comes on boost! should put a half cage in at that point IMO, safety reasons.

GT30 on this engine spools at 3500rpm.. So no different to K04, pretty amazing, but with good tuning it is possible..

Thought  big turbo was notibly longer spoo as on danGBs big turbo TFSI leon?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 06:52:40 pm
it'll be tough keeping it as a road car with a GT30 on board i'd say. Will be a bit laggy, and power range will be moved up...but he'll love it when it comes on boost! should put a half cage in at that point IMO, safety reasons.

GT30 on this engine spools at 3500rpm.. So no different to K04, pretty amazing, but with good tuning it is possible..

Thought  big turbo was notibly longer spoo as on danGBs big turbo TFSI leon?

His is an internally gated GT2871R.. GT3071R is external gate which really speeds up spool time, and as I say its all in the tuning..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on May 13, 2009, 07:44:34 pm
 :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2009, 07:51:27 pm
it'll be tough keeping it as a road car with a GT30 on board i'd say. Will be a bit laggy, and power range will be moved up...but he'll love it when it comes on boost! should put a half cage in at that point IMO, safety reasons.

GT30 on this engine spools at 3500rpm.. So no different to K04, pretty amazing, but with good tuning it is possible..

Thought  big turbo was notibly longer spoo as on danGBs big turbo TFSI leon?

His is an internally gated GT2871R.. GT3071R is external gate which really speeds up spool time, and as I say its all in the tuning..

Who would you go to for the gt3071r set up?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 13, 2009, 07:59:52 pm
think the only people in the uk to have mapped one on OEM ECU is MRC Tuning. Think they got 400bhp, on std internals still i believe.

Revo I think can do a BT custom file tho, as a couple of mad nutters on VWVortex have done.

You'll need to get a nice equal length Exhuast Manifold made up tho.  :happy2:

Can't wait to see the plan get into full swing!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 08:35:46 pm

Who would you go to for the gt3071r set up?

Ill be having my own kit made, not an off the shelf jobbie.. Mapping would be done by the Revo guys!

The dream would be to relocate the battery and the fuse box and run the turbo at the side of the engine, next to the HPFP..

I would run a similar deign manifold to this one.. (Civic Type R turbo manifold)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fkseriesstockt32.jpg&hash=b873c96dfadc1e091331aa24f85cedff0befa5aa)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fkseriesdivt42.jpg&hash=801c7c60549edbc8c3c31c3ced31b49288793943)

That would look pretty tasty under the bonnet wouldnt it!!  :wink:

In reality I may just go for a stock location turbo, but thats no where near as much fun!!! haha..  :laugh:

think the only people in the uk to have mapped one on OEM ECU is MRC Tuning. Think they got 400bhp, on std internals still i believe.

Revo I think can do a BT custom file tho, as a couple of mad nutters on VWVortex have done.

You'll need to get a nice equal length Exhuast Manifold made up tho.  :happy2:

Can't wait to see the plan get into full swing!

Revo have mapped an ATP GT3071R turbo on Andy Oram's big turbo S3.. They have an off the shelf file for it.. Stage 3
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2009, 09:20:42 pm

So on a tfsi (Cupra) with HPFP, dbilas, 3" d.p, 2.75" non res system, biiig apr cooler, apr stage 2+ what else would be needed?

(assuming possibly new inlet, injectors, mani, turbo, clutch) are there considerations i should think about and what sort of cost?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 13, 2009, 09:24:46 pm

So on a tfsi (Cupra) with HPFP, dbilas, 3" d.p, 2.75" non res system, biiig apr cooler, apr stage 2+ what else would be needed?

(assuming possibly new inlet, injectors, mani, turbo, clutch) are there considerations i should think about and what sort of cost?

Many thanks

You mean to get around 370hp? Ill send you a PM to keep this one clean..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 13, 2009, 10:47:15 pm
that is one mad mani! I can't quite visualize how a mani like that would fit in the mk5 engine bay however! But you're the man to have a go tho!  :signLOL:

The ATP ones are pretty boring cast types, but maintains a bit more OEM look.

How much bhp is Andy getting then with his set up on the S3?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Strat on May 14, 2009, 12:13:59 am
Looking decent, the seats i particuarly like!

Ok, say for example I woke up on Saturday and decided, I know, I want to replicate everything Johnny's done to his car, but do it to mine. I say replicate, I mean do very similar stuff to have a Diamond black nightrider esc mk5.

Aside from not knowing practically anything about it and hiring you to do most of the work for me haha, roughly how much would I need to raid my ISA for to bring my GTI up to this standard? I understand you may not have finished with it, and I don't need an exact figure, just roughly! :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on May 14, 2009, 12:16:51 am
^^^ i hope your sitting down  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 14, 2009, 12:21:59 am
Looking decent, the seats i particuarly like!

Ok, say for example I woke up on Saturday and decided, I know, I want to replicate everything Johnny's done to his car, but do it to mine. I say replicate, I mean do very similar stuff to have a Diamond black nightrider esc mk5.

Aside from not knowing practically anything about it and hiring you to do most of the work for me haha, roughly how much would I need to raid my ISA for to bring my GTI up to this standard? I understand you may not have finished with it, and I don't need an exact figure, just roughly! :smiley:

Up to where the car is at now, 10-12k.. But its going to end up more like 18-20 if/when I get it to the level of what im after..  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Strat on May 14, 2009, 12:27:07 am
interesting! i might wait a few weeks then till i begin!  :laugh:

if you don't mind me asking:

1. what other big things are you planning to push the costs up so much?!

2. how on earth do you think of things that can be done? some of the things you have done, including having custom things made, i wouldn't have thought possible!

3. why are you going to such lengths with the car? i mean is it that you will never sell it? surely it would be both a struggle to sell and if you did, a massive financial loss?!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 14, 2009, 12:31:22 am
interesting! i might wait a few weeks then till i begin!  :laugh:

if you don't mind me asking:

1. what other big things are you planning to push the costs up so much?!

2. how on earth do you think of things that can be done? some of the things you have done, including having custom things made, i wouldn't have thought possible!

3. why are you going to such lengths with the car? i mean is it that you will never sell it? surely it would be both a struggle to sell and if you did, a massive financial loss?!

1. Lots of nice things  :wink: A few more horses  :party:

2. I have a good imagination  :laugh: Na, seriously I just want to have the best stuff on the car possible, so

3. I love it too much, the plan is certainly to keep this car for a while now. I have gone beyond the point of no return with it a long time ago.. Saying that, the car is for sale at the right price  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Strat on May 14, 2009, 12:36:44 am
interesting! i might wait a few weeks then till i begin!  :laugh:

if you don't mind me asking:

1. what other big things are you planning to push the costs up so much?!

2. how on earth do you think of things that can be done? some of the things you have done, including having custom things made, i wouldn't have thought possible!

3. why are you going to such lengths with the car? i mean is it that you will never sell it? surely it would be both a struggle to sell and if you did, a massive financial loss?!

1. Lots of nice things  :wink: A few more horses  :party:

2. I have a good imagination  :laugh: Na, seriously I just want to have the best stuff on the car possible, so

3. I love it too much, the plan is certainly to keep this car for a while now. I have gone beyond the point of no return with it a long time ago.. Saying that, the car is for sale at the right price  :smiley:

haha well its been quite a story so far, ill keep watching this space!  :happy2:

surely if you add many more HP all you'll get is wheelspin magee? even with the best intentions!?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 14, 2009, 12:41:13 am
interesting! i might wait a few weeks then till i begin!  :laugh:

if you don't mind me asking:

1. what other big things are you planning to push the costs up so much?!

2. how on earth do you think of things that can be done? some of the things you have done, including having custom things made, i wouldn't have thought possible!

3. why are you going to such lengths with the car? i mean is it that you will never sell it? surely it would be both a struggle to sell and if you did, a massive financial loss?!

1. Lots of nice things  :wink: A few more horses  :party:

2. I have a good imagination  :laugh: Na, seriously I just want to have the best stuff on the car possible, so

3. I love it too much, the plan is certainly to keep this car for a while now. I have gone beyond the point of no return with it a long time ago.. Saying that, the car is for sale at the right price  :smiley:

haha well its been quite a story so far, ill keep watching this space!  :happy2:

surely if you add many more HP all you'll get is wheelspin magee? even with the best intentions!?

Thats not the plan.. The map would be such that I only get more power high up in the revs, so its not a huge shock to the tyre..

Also I have a new wheel/tyre package that im working on that will increase traction by a little bit haha..

18x9 - 265/35 tyres is the goal but if not I should be able to go with 18x8.5 and 255/35/18 tyres..

That would give me another 16mm of contact patch all round over the 235/40/18 R888's that im currently running..

235/40/18 Toyo R888 is actually 244mm wide.. And the 255/35/18 is 260mm wide..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Strat on May 14, 2009, 12:45:07 am
ahhh i see, it does make sense! haha
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 14, 2009, 03:43:29 pm
I'd just like to thank Jonny for inviting me over to see his car and take me out in it. 

You have got to believe me when I say this car is fast, I mean FAST, far faster than you'd think possible in fact, in a straight line or round a bend it's simply RAPID!!! :driver:

Thumbs up to you mate and thanks again for today!  I'll email you about the brakes and photo shoot!...  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 14, 2009, 06:07:38 pm
I'd just like to thank Jonny for inviting me over to see his car and take me out in it. 

You have got to believe me when I say this car is fast, I mean FAST, far faster than you'd think possible in fact, in a straight line or round a bend it's simply RAPID!!! :driver:

Thumbs up to you mate and thanks again for today!  I'll email you about the brakes and photo shoot!...  :happy2:

No probs mate.. Good fun isn't it!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on May 14, 2009, 07:58:09 pm
You lucky bugger J5 BWS! Im not jealous at all  :P :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 14, 2009, 09:08:46 pm
I'd just like to thank Jonny for inviting me over to see his car and take me out in it. 

You have got to believe me when I say this car is fast, I mean FAST, far faster than you'd think possible in fact, in a straight line or round a bend it's simply RAPID!!! :driver:

Thumbs up to you mate and thanks again for today!  I'll email you about the brakes and photo shoot!...  :happy2:

No probs mate.. Good fun isn't it!!  :laugh:

Oh yes!  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 14, 2009, 09:09:52 pm
You lucky bugger J5 BWS! Im not jealous at all  :P :P

LOL I know!  Still now I want!...  :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on May 15, 2009, 12:34:43 am
Cant imagine what yours is like, got the trial APR map today on mine and its real good fun, not sure what power its running but nearly used the 6 hours worth of driving already.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 15, 2009, 12:45:37 am
Right am next  :signLOL:

And i think pirelli p should get to read your s3 thread (i'd like to read it again too  :wink:) and then he might understand even more what your like with your cars  :jumping:

oh and not meaning to go off topic but i was out with my mate tonight who has the red astra vxr you were having a little fun with the other night!  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 15, 2009, 02:13:26 pm
Right am next  :signLOL:

And i think pirelli p should get to read your s3 thread (i'd like to read it again too  :wink:) and then he might understand even more what your like with your cars  :jumping:

oh and not meaning to go off topic but i was out with my mate tonight who has the red astra vxr you were having a little fun with the other night!  :driver:

Anyone wanting to check out my build thread for the S3 can find it on here..

(its a great little forum and it would be great to have a few of us guys on there)

http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?p=11353#post11353

Oh and yes, had a little play with it.. Had to ask if it was tuned coz it did pretty well really.. Says its running just short of 300hp apparently?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 15, 2009, 04:33:55 pm
yeah he's got milltex system and a map etc
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 15, 2009, 05:44:22 pm
yeah he's got milltex system and a map etc

Cool.. Went pretty well I thought.. Although I think he was a bit puzzled that I was lifting off haha..

Update..

So with GTI International fast approaching I want to make sure that I get the car as ready as it can be for the event! When I say ready, I really mean fast lol..

Ill be on the Revo stand and should be running up the strip throughout the day!

There is going to be some pretty tough competition this year on the strip, thought it would be fun to see if I could stay on top.. Although, im not sure if the times at GTI will be as fast / accurate as Santa Pod, but on the day it should be a good little comparison to how some other cars are running!!

The first big thing that I want to get sorted out is traction, the 235/40/18 R888's are working well for me but for sure there is some more to come in the 60ft times and it would be awesome to get a bit more rubber on the car! It would also look pretty awesome!!

The plan is to have a set of 18x8.5 wheels made up (im going for the Compomotive MVS 1885) Its quite a nice looking wheel, light weight at just over 9kg and they will make the wheel in any offset you want, so I will be able to get them just right!!

Plan would be to have them finished in Matte black..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fcompomotive_magsMVS.jpg&hash=e76997650ee9b8f5cc004fedb239a86fe095090e)

Then and fit a set of 255/35/18 (260mm wide) Toyo R888's tyres to them, this will give me an extra 16mm contact patch per corner, so 64mm in total! A pretty substantial increase over the 235/40 (244mm wide) R888's that im running currently..

Standard 225/40 tyre contact patch - 880mm
New 255/35 R888 contact patch - 1040mm (should help with traction!)

Toyo R1R in pic, but gives an idea of how big the 255/35 (260mm wide) tyre looks!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Ftoyor1r2-1.jpg&hash=5e1fc97d450dbb9e1ddfe90f7c9ee98f6af3f235)

Its going to be a fair bit of work to make them fit but I think it will be worth it in the end, and im hoping this should really help out with traction off the line and throughout 1st gear..

The next area to look at is the suspension itself, im going to be fitting a set of lightweight KW Race anti-roll bars, these are 3 way adjustable and should help control the rate of roll, just something that is nice to have, also should save me a couple of KG's which helps!

Ill be replacing the front bottom arms with OEM TT items, these are not only lighter (aluminium rather than steel) but they also offer an additional 0.5 degrees negative camber for the front end, so I should be able to run around 2.7 degrees front static camber and keep all of the caster I have too, looking forward to these!

TT arms..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FMay09a.jpg&hash=e9819ac864db26059524ac105a51a388d3d3c224)

Compared to stock..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FMay09g.jpg&hash=7c868cc25527fbaa1d339c3ae8db4ea902786e2d)

They will also be fitted with the WALK and poly bushed rear bushes at the same time.. 4kg lighter than the stock items apparently too!

The seats will be coming back out, and all of the interior removed, lightened, then re installed.. There will be NO visual difference at all, but we think that there is a good 15kg of weight to come out from, sound deadening materials and bits and bobs that are not required behind the trims.. Also some of the trims will be cut back on the reverse side to save a bit of weight.. All helps remember!!

Im going to also have the spare wheel well cut out and replaced with an aluminum panel.. I dont run with a spare wheel in the car so its not an issue from that point of view. This should save a good little chunk of weight, not sure how much but we will find out im sure!!

The last thing will be to fit polycarbonate rear windows to the car, this is reported to save around 15kg over the standard glass.. Well worth doing for my car or as part of any big weight saving project!!

There is one other VERY trick part that im working on, it would be a first for this car, im waiting on some more info, so maybes it will be on in time, maybes not, but it would save me a good 20kg on the car!! Fingers crossed!!

The aim is to get down to 12.4's with the K04 set up and a completely road legal, no race fuel, no water/meth pump fuel car..

Then ill go and do big turbo, and aim for 500hp! And it should sound a little more like this!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi278.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk84%2Fdavidsonley1%2Fth_S3atCroft.jpg&hash=04f047951db7c72c2df7664042dad2d4469519b0) (http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk84/davidsonley1/?action=view&current=S3atCroft.flv)

(1 flying Lap at Croft in my Old big turbo S3 before I got thrown off for noise lol.. 103.7 DB static.. Oops!)

I think with the planned big HP set up the car is going to be pretty mental.. But in a good way of course!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on May 15, 2009, 05:51:03 pm
Jonny, I'd love to meet up with you one day so that you can educate me about suspension modifications!!! All this talk about caster/camber/arms/top mounts/bushes etc etc makes me want to do it all to mine!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 15, 2009, 06:08:23 pm

Jonny, I'd love to meet up with you one day so that you can educate me about suspension modifications!!! All this talk about caster/camber/arms/top mounts/bushes etc etc makes me want to do it all to mine!  :happy2:


....Not that Jonny won't help you (he's always very helpful), but Mark at VWR can also help you.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 15, 2009, 06:11:58 pm
Jonny,

surely the extra width of the bigger tyre will be wasted as you're running a ridiculous amount of front static camber?

So the contact patch won't be a full 260mm at all, more like 200mm perhaps!

And not sure how many runs your tyres will last if you're doing 1/4 mile sprints with that amount of camber.

Just a thought.

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 15, 2009, 06:14:00 pm
Jonny,

surely the extra width of the bigger tyre will be wasted as you're running a ridiculous amount of front static camber?

So the contact patch won't be a full 260mm at all, more like 200mm perhaps!

And not sure how many runs your tyres will last if you're doing 1/4 mile sprints with that amount of camber.

Just a thought.



Yep, I see what your saying but 2.2 degrees, or even 2.7 degrees is far from ridiculous.. Plus the flex in the side wall would have almost all of the tyre sat on the ground at that camber setting. Its only when you get up to 5 degrees + that you will notice the outside edge of the tyre sat off the ground..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 15, 2009, 06:20:10 pm
just trying to relate back to us mere mortals you see JC...not sure how many road cars out there run over 2 degrees of negative camber you see!  :signLOL:

but from a basic understanding of how a  -2 degree camber'd wheel vs say -0.5 would look, I can only imagine the inside half of the tyre will take the most of the weight, and the outer not doing a lot.

That's why negative camber works a treat in the corners, as all the weight pushing over to that wheel makes the wheel straighten up hence given u 100% contact patch usage of your tyre.

Put you as a racing driver would know all that anyway.

Looking forward to how it goes at GTI. I've booked up 3 runs on the saturday...hope i'm not up against you on any of them  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 15, 2009, 06:30:46 pm
just trying to relate back to us mere mortals you see JC...not sure how many road cars out there run over 2 degrees of negative camber you see!  :signLOL:

but from a basic understanding of how a  -2 degree camber'd wheel vs say -0.5 would look, I can only imagine the inside half of the tyre will take the most of the weight, and the outer not doing a lot.

That's why negative camber works a treat in the corners, as all the weight pushing over to that wheel makes the wheel straighten up hence given u 100% contact patch usage of your tyre.

Put you as a racing driver would know all that anyway.

Looking forward to how it goes at GTI. I've booked up 3 runs on the saturday...hope i'm not up against you on any of them  :grin:

haha, ill be there on the Sunday I think, so probably not..

Good point, not many road cars run over 2.0 degrees.. There is a big mis conception as to camber / tyre wear.. Negative camber does not ruin the inside tyre, that it down to too much toe out.. Something that happens when a car is lowered and not re aligned..

Yeah, hopefully it goes well.. Looking forward to it! haha..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 15, 2009, 06:35:36 pm
re misconception.......that actually i can believe!

put some Bilstein PSS9 coilovers on a car many moons ago, went to a RR day, and it was sparking on the rollers!

found out inside edge of the front tyres were mullered (threads were showing)

got them changed, and alignment checked. Toe out settings were way off normal, front wheels were basically at a V shape!

reset toe settings and happy as larry afterwards!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 17, 2009, 02:32:21 pm
Think i'll be popping down to Inters on the sunday JC to have a butchers and cheer on the Mk5 lads.. As for the strip, you'll have the Mk5 Golf section well and truely in the bag, but depending on what turns up for the FWD crown that's another battle all together (Jabba's Mk2 Golf will take some beating  :scared:)..
Looking forward to seeing the new additions though bud as she seems to be coming along nicely..


Oh and them rims..  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: TurboTrev on May 17, 2009, 04:07:32 pm
Re. the wide tyres, won't there be a drag issue caused by the amount of rubber that's in contact with the tarmac?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 17, 2009, 05:35:58 pm
Think i'll be popping down to Inters on the sunday JC to have a butchers and cheer on the Mk5 lads.. As for the strip, you'll have the Mk5 Golf section well and truely in the bag, but depending on what turns up for the FWD crown that's another battle all together (Jabba's Mk2 Golf will take some beating  :scared:)..
Looking forward to seeing the new additions though bud as she seems to be coming along nicely..


Oh and them rims..  :drool:

Well I want to have the fastest FWD 2.0T FSI, that is the main goal.. Then fastest MK5 obviously will almost be part of that as at the moment the fastest FWD 2.0T FSI cars are mainly MK5's..

The fastest FWD car will be a bit of a mission! Although I doubt that MK2 runs on road fuel or tyres does it??

Re. the wide tyres, won't there be a drag issue caused by the amount of rubber that's in contact with the tarmac?

The only issue will be launching it from high enough revs such that it doesn't bog down on the start..  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on May 17, 2009, 06:52:23 pm
Those wheels look awesome Jonny, cant wait to see your motor in action at Inters  :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on May 17, 2009, 07:13:59 pm
no way i'm lining up next to him  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on May 17, 2009, 10:35:24 pm
Out of interest where abouts did you get the r1r's from? because I can't find a living sole that sells them?

Luke
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 17, 2009, 10:36:58 pm
Out of interest where abouts did you get the r1r's from? because I can't find a living sole that sells them?

Luke

Thats just a pic from the net, there not for sale in the UK for a while yet..

Also the pic of the wheels is the same, they are someone else's wheels, mine should be all ordered up tomorrow!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on May 17, 2009, 10:38:48 pm
Out of interest where abouts did you get the r1r's from? because I can't find a living sole that sells them?

Luke

Thats just a pic from the net, there not for sale in the UK for a while yet..

Also the pic of the wheels is the same, they are someone else's wheels, mine should be all ordered up tomorrow!! :laugh:

Ahh explains it then, the tyre fitters I went to see today didn't have any idea when they were expecting to have them on the system but form what they have been told there's not a lot out there that would be able to touch them pound for pound.

Luke
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 17, 2009, 10:46:11 pm
Out of interest where abouts did you get the r1r's from? because I can't find a living sole that sells them?

Luke

Thats just a pic from the net, there not for sale in the UK for a while yet..

Also the pic of the wheels is the same, they are someone else's wheels, mine should be all ordered up tomorrow!! :laugh:

Ahh explains it then, the tyre fitters I went to see today didn't have any idea when they were expecting to have them on the system but form what they have been told there's not a lot out there that would be able to touch them pound for pound.

Luke

R1R is a more road biased tyre than the R888 so for pure performance the R888 should out perform them in theory, but I dont know if that will be the case..

Im tempted to try a set of A048R from Yokohama, they seem pretty good..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2009, 01:50:12 pm
Think i'll be popping down to Inters on the sunday JC to have a butchers and cheer on the Mk5 lads.. As for the strip, you'll have the Mk5 Golf section well and truely in the bag, but depending on what turns up for the FWD crown that's another battle all together (Jabba's Mk2 Golf will take some beating  :scared:)..
Looking forward to seeing the new additions though bud as she seems to be coming along nicely..


Oh and them rims..  :drool:

Well I want to have the fastest FWD 2.0T FSI, that is the main goal.. Then fastest MK5 obviously will almost be part of that as at the moment the fastest FWD 2.0T FSI cars are mainly MK5's..

The fastest FWD car will be a bit of a mission! Although I doubt that MK2 runs on road fuel or tyres does it??

Re. the wide tyres, won't there be a drag issue caused by the amount of rubber that's in contact with the tarmac?

The only issue will be launching it from high enough revs such that it doesn't bog down on the start..  :evilgrin:
Mate I should think you'll have the 2.0 TFSI honours well and truely in the bag. Unless Big Andy is attending/running and has made some changes/more mods and also got another driver?  :grin: As that car will always have the traction advantage, if launched right and Brunters surface isn't the best as mine suffered last year. Still think you'll own it though..  :wink:
As for the big boys in the FWD class, you're right, they aint exactly 'Road Trim'..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 18, 2009, 01:52:23 pm
Think i'll be popping down to Inters on the sunday JC to have a butchers and cheer on the Mk5 lads.. As for the strip, you'll have the Mk5 Golf section well and truely in the bag, but depending on what turns up for the FWD crown that's another battle all together (Jabba's Mk2 Golf will take some beating  :scared:)..
Looking forward to seeing the new additions though bud as she seems to be coming along nicely..


Oh and them rims..  :drool:

Well I want to have the fastest FWD 2.0T FSI, that is the main goal.. Then fastest MK5 obviously will almost be part of that as at the moment the fastest FWD 2.0T FSI cars are mainly MK5's..

The fastest FWD car will be a bit of a mission! Although I doubt that MK2 runs on road fuel or tyres does it??

Re. the wide tyres, won't there be a drag issue caused by the amount of rubber that's in contact with the tarmac?

The only issue will be launching it from high enough revs such that it doesn't bog down on the start..  :evilgrin:
Mate I should think you'll have the 2.0 TFSI honours well and truely in the bag. Unless Big Andy is attending/running and has made some changes/more mods and also got another driver?  :grin: As that car will always have the traction advantage, if launched right and Brunters surface isn't the best as mine suffered last year. Still think you'll own it though..  :wink:
As for the big boys in the FWD class, you're right, they aint exactly 'Road Trim'..

Andy will be there, and he was telling me that he has the starts nailed now, that car should be able to run 11's I think.. Just have to see if he can launch it hard enough to use the traction advantage..

Regal will be there too, along with some other big power 2.0T FSI's for sure, its not going to be easy but should be fun to see how everyone lines up!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2009, 02:00:55 pm
Well Regal never seem to perform when it comes to it IMO and their/your white Golf seems to be no quicker than mine was (unless there is any new mods since the other month) and yours is in another leaugue to what mine is/was..
I just think unless there is a big powered S3 their (like 450+bhp) with a good driver, you'll take it. As even though you will have it on the roll, it just depends on how far ahead the S3 gets away from you off the line and whether there is enough time to catch it..   :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 18, 2009, 02:02:33 pm
Well Regal never seem to perform when it comes to it IMO and their/your white Golf seems to be no quicker than mine was (unless there is any new mods since the other month) and yours is in another leaugue to what mine is/was..
I just think unless there is a big powered S3 their (like 450+bhp) with a good driver, you'll take it. As even though you will have it on the roll, it just depends on how far ahead the S3 gets away from you off the line and whether there is enough time to catch it..   :scared:

Well I have a lot of little tricks up my sleeve to try and get a couple more tenths off the time for GTI.. Only problem is that its all costing A LOT more now each time I do something lol..

Diminishing returns and all that stuff!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2009, 02:09:00 pm
Few more tricks??? I bet you'll have a jacket like a wizard's sleeve on the day knowing you..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 18, 2009, 02:26:15 pm
I think someone will need a jet engine sticking out of the back of their GTI to beat Jonny :signLOL:

OOOPS....gotta go.....RAF on the phone :innocent: :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 18, 2009, 02:32:06 pm
Well Regal never seem to perform when it comes to it IMO and their/your white Golf seems to be no quicker than mine was (unless there is any new mods since the other month) and yours is in another leaugue to what mine is/was..
I just think unless there is a big powered S3 their (like 450+bhp) with a good driver, you'll take it. As even though you will have it on the roll, it just depends on how far ahead the S3 gets away from you off the line and whether there is enough time to catch it..   :scared:

doesn't matter about catching it or not.  Time doesn't start until u trip the starting beam. so you should just make sure you have the right revs to launch it at the right time, not when they change from red light to green light. 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2009, 02:47:11 pm
Well Regal never seem to perform when it comes to it IMO and their/your white Golf seems to be no quicker than mine was (unless there is any new mods since the other month) and yours is in another leaugue to what mine is/was..
I just think unless there is a big powered S3 their (like 450+bhp) with a good driver, you'll take it. As even though you will have it on the roll, it just depends on how far ahead the S3 gets away from you off the line and whether there is enough time to catch it..   :scared:

doesn't matter about catching it or not.  Time doesn't start until u trip the starting beam. so you should just make sure you have the right revs to launch it at the right time, not when they change from red light to green light. 
Yeah I know mate, but FWD vs 4WD on a gravelly type surface is only going to produce one winner when getting off the mark (1st gear) is concerned.. But once traction is in hand JC's is going to take some beating..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 18, 2009, 04:21:46 pm
Yeah he was wondering why you kept backing off  :confused:  :signLOL:

Loving the sound of the update mate-looking forward to it!!!!

oh and may be we should organise a little convoy down to gti international as am going to go down on the sunday
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 18, 2009, 07:23:36 pm
I think someone will need a jet engine sticking out of the back of their GTI to beat Jonny :signLOL:

OOOPS....gotta go.....RAF on the phone :innocent: :laugh:

Lol, you almost have the same spec on yours now.. If your not in the 12's then ill be surprised mate  :smiley: Although, it does depend just how bad the traction off the line is.. Do they let you burn out before the start?

Yeah I know mate, but FWD vs 4WD on a gravelly type surface is only going to produce one winner when getting off the mark (1st gear) is concerned.. But once traction is in hand JC's is going to take some beating..

Put it this way, if it was a race from a 20mph roll then I would be very confident lol..

Yeah he was wondering why you kept backing off  :confused:  :signLOL:

Loving the sound of the update mate-looking forward to it!!!!

oh and may be we should organise a little convoy down to gti international as am going to go down on the sunday

Sounds good mate, let me know closer to the time what the plans are.. Ill be leaving early, need to be there from 9 ish really  :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 18, 2009, 09:56:15 pm
Although, it does depend just how bad the traction off the line is.. Do they let you burn out before the start?
Afraid not mate...   :sad:
Biggest factor will be if it's windy or not, as last year was horrendous..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 18, 2009, 10:12:01 pm
Although, it does depend just how bad the traction off the line is.. Do they let you burn out before the start?
Afraid not mate...   :sad:
Biggest factor will be if it's windy or not, as last year was horrendous..

They dont let you at all!!?? Great.. Well thats me fu**ed then!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Toast on May 18, 2009, 10:30:17 pm
I've saw them let people warm there tyre's up the last 2 year's that I've been down :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 18, 2009, 10:50:09 pm
I think someone will need a jet engine sticking out of the back of their GTI to beat Jonny :signLOL:

OOOPS....gotta go.....RAF on the phone :innocent: :laugh:

Lol, you almost have the same spec on yours now.. If your not in the 12's then ill be surprised mate  :smiley: Although, it does depend just how bad the traction off the line is.. Do they let you burn out before the start?


Yes, my project has been kick started again. Looks like I'll be needing internals and a spanky turbo :laugh: as I don't really want to strip mine.

They do let you do burnouts though. I saw plenty of cars doing burnouts past the start and then reversing back onto the line. :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 19, 2009, 02:41:30 pm
will do mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 19, 2009, 02:59:57 pm
Apologies on the tyre warming up quote.. What I meeant was they don't have a warm up area as such as it's a tight turn into the start area and you're on the start line pretty much.. I would imagine you can do a burnout on the actual strip and reverse back like John says. But there isn't the nice burn out area with the water puddle like there is at Pod..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 21, 2009, 05:53:49 pm
Apologies on the tyre warming up quote.. What I meeant was they don't have a warm up area as such as it's a tight turn into the start area and you're on the start line pretty much.. I would imagine you can do a burnout on the actual strip and reverse back like John says. But there isn't the nice burn out area with the water puddle like there is at Pod..

Yeah, ok well thats alright then..

Update..

Just thought I would neaten up the cold air feed that I had on my car.. I did it in a bit of a rush before the 1st Feb Santa Pod event just to make sure it was on there but im not just getting round to sorting things out to how I want them to be. Very OEM looking, nice and neat etc..

From this..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FVAGocSantaPod238.jpg&hash=47b84dce3979583d7367b9ff99beafc63f618142)

To this..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05274.jpg&hash=fee45c2102948c84227d8ba1b735fc8e7ff72e68)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05275.jpg&hash=f603c1500a78f382bb18df995fc7aa9488fd7728)

Took a bit of time to do it but its well worth it I think.. Looks a little neater and the venturi should work as its supposed to now with the duct on the outside edge of the passenger side fog grill.

I have also got some new shorter springs being fitted to the car tomorrow at VWR.. They are custom made springs from KW.. 140mm long and rated at 130NM which is the same spring rate but 40mm shorter than im running now, this will enable me to have the car running at the ride height that im after!

Decided on new wheels..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FAlleggerita_mb.jpg&hash=cd702b42d1eaecf838b898f7332a92fa1adb67ea)

Oz Alleggerita - 18x8 ET48 5X112.. A couple of reasons for this..

The Compomotive wheels weight 11kg each!! I know there strong but jeez! The OZ are going to be saving me around 6kg over the weight of the Team Dynamics wheels that are currently on the car where as I would have gained 4kg fitting the Compomotives, certainly not what im after.. Remember that is all rotational mass so its worth between 4 and 5 times static weight loss!!

This does mean however that I wont be able to run the 255/35 tyre that I was planning. After giving it some though a lighter wheel with a smaller tyre I think is going to give me more of an advantage than a larger wheel/tyre combo with more mechanical grip..

To make up for that grip issue the tyres that will be fitted to the OZ wheels are going to be something a bit special!!

The new brakes will be fitted to the car soon (VW Racing brakes by Project Mu), hopefully next week! Looking forward to this, nothing wrong with the brake set up currently on the car, its very good actually.. Just im planning on keeping the car for quite a while now and I want to have the best of everything on it! They are pretty pricey though, but well worth it I think!!

Im having the car fully detailed on Sunday too (weather permitting) so im really looking forward to seeing the results of that! Should be nice and shiny for GTI International!

Im also still working on having a Titanium exhaust made for the car, this should save between 12-15kg off the weight and will be a lovely one off piece! Dont think anyone has a Ti system on a GTI at the moment anyways..

Thats about it for now!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on May 21, 2009, 06:59:55 pm
Sounds awesome Jonny, i think were all glad you have decided to keep it for a long time, this build is EPIC!! :happy2:

Those OZ wheels :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on May 21, 2009, 07:01:39 pm
Re Ti exhaust system...isn't RR going for something like that??

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 21, 2009, 07:57:51 pm

Re Ti exhaust system...isn't RR going for something like that??


....No, Milltek have just built me a completely new system (rear sections) with ceramic coated black tips and very small volume back box etc. I'll be writing and posting a review but have reviews on the supercharged S4 and my VWR engine mount to do first.

[Let's not hijack Jonny's build thread]
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 22, 2009, 09:58:50 am
Sounds great  :laugh: and i like the wheels  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on May 22, 2009, 10:06:19 am
this threds to big to catch up on now!  :laugh:

il just catch up at inters  :happy2: :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on May 22, 2009, 10:36:08 am
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the Alleggerita's Jonny :laugh:

Why did you go for the 8x18's and not the 8 x 17's?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on May 22, 2009, 11:37:27 am
Looking forward to seeing these new brakes!! Good choice on the wheels too, they will look great  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 22, 2009, 05:35:21 pm
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the Alleggerita's Jonny :laugh:

Why did you go for the 8x18's and not the 8 x 17's?
Brakes at a guess John..  Jonny's probably got some 400 pot, 400mm, alcon, ceramic, QE2 stoppers going on it soon knowing him..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 22, 2009, 07:02:15 pm
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the Alleggerita's Jonny :laugh:

Why did you go for the 8x18's and not the 8 x 17's?

Brakes, it would have been touch and go if they would have fit or not, and a lot of money to spend if they didnt!!!

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the Alleggerita's Jonny :laugh:

Why did you go for the 8x18's and not the 8 x 17's?
Brakes at a guess John..  Jonny's probably got some 400 pot, 400mm, alcon, ceramic, QE2 stoppers going on it soon knowing him..  :grin:

Gimme a break, there only 360mm!!  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on May 22, 2009, 08:55:29 pm
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the Alleggerita's Jonny :laugh:

Why did you go for the 8x18's and not the 8 x 17's?

Brakes, it would have been touch and go if they would have fit or not, and a lot of money to spend if they didnt!!!

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist the Alleggerita's Jonny :laugh:

Why did you go for the 8x18's and not the 8 x 17's?
Brakes at a guess John..  Jonny's probably got some 400 pot, 400mm, alcon, ceramic, QE2 stoppers going on it soon knowing him..  :grin:

Gimme a break, there only 360mm!!  :wink:

So it's only the diameter that's being ruled out  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cohiba on May 22, 2009, 09:47:47 pm
One of man, think you should have it on top gear, see what lap time the stig can get , or are you the real stig. :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 22, 2009, 10:45:44 pm
or are you the real stig. :signLOL:

... Who knows!  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on May 22, 2009, 11:49:25 pm
or are you the real stig. :signLOL:

... Who knows!  :scared:

So that means you are  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on May 23, 2009, 01:02:03 pm
We have found the true indentity of the Stig!  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 23, 2009, 02:08:01 pm
We have found the true indentity of the Stig!  :jumpmove:

Nah he's not, I am, it says so on my little boys T-Shirt...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.officialproducts.co.uk%2Fshopimages%2Fproducts%2Fextras%2Fmydadstig_lg_fr.jpg&hash=18b4a312ca0515a02b555fae7cf487e564f29d65)

 :wink:

Besides I was with Jonny this morning and it can't be him cos his race overalls are green...
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 23, 2009, 05:39:21 pm
Well I was with him today and I seen the white overalls in his kit bag  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on May 23, 2009, 05:55:01 pm
Well I was with him today and I seen the white overalls in his kit bag  :P
:signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 24, 2009, 04:42:54 pm


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05274.jpg&hash=fee45c2102948c84227d8ba1b735fc8e7ff72e68)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05275.jpg&hash=f603c1500a78f382bb18df995fc7aa9488fd7728)

Where's the neat seal from jonny?

Got it from Revotec. Required a fair bit of work to make it sit like that as the grill has a curve in both directions and the venturi duct is flat..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 24, 2009, 04:54:04 pm
I did the same on mine its a pain in the arse to get it to sit correct
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fd122%2Fmat138l%2Fnewintaketrial003noplate.jpg&hash=7b4bb0e79435c06fe9452ecd0050c7072948e414)

just waiting on a Cai now  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 24, 2009, 04:58:26 pm
I did the same on mine its a pain in the arse to get it to sit correct
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fd122%2Fmat138l%2Fnewintaketrial003noplate.jpg&hash=7b4bb0e79435c06fe9452ecd0050c7072948e414)

just waiting on a Cai now  :rolleye:

I have cut away a lot of the bumper that sits behind the grill to allow for the duct / ducting to sit.. It allows it to sit much higher
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 24, 2009, 05:01:38 pm
i will be doing the same mate when the cai comes  :wink: as it was just a mess about thing/idea but it will work great i am sure
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 26, 2009, 09:39:07 pm
Update..

Got a chance to do a couple more bits that I have been meaning to do for a while on the car!

First up was to remove the Recaro decals from the side rails on the seats..

This was an absolute pain! Recaro have used the cheapest vinyl that I have ever seen! Very thin, and when finally removed, all of the glue is left behind, so its a big job to get the aluminium cleaned up afterwards.. Had to use a razor blade as nothing else would budge it!!

Anyways here is the side mount before..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05238.jpg&hash=d8634a2c9f52855624394758181bf8b7be9e8a4e)

And after..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05285.jpg&hash=791bf24fcfd2fd61f32ce63ebdde87835d507f54)

I think it looks a lot more subtle, kind of the way im going with the car really. Less in your face, carbon bits etc..

With that in mind im removing the carbon bonnet tomorrow and im going to have it painted in Candy White. I tried vinyl but nothing is close enough to the colour im after so its going to have to get painted..

Next up was to wrap the lower section of the front splitter..

I had been meaning to do this for ages, its a fairly long job though so I kept on putting it off ha.. Anyways! Done now..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05282.jpg&hash=ae4874e2de84bde8d05a672dc92567d673dae33f)

Pretty pleased with the results, ties in to the rear nicely and gives the front end a bit more of a purposeful look!

I also re wrapped the grill, it wasnt quite right so thought I would do it while I was there!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05283.jpg&hash=d659c0cde3852b28c771bb3cd117af1fc9e87fbd)

Looks a lot better now, much cleaner looking!!

I also had my car detailed by Jonny at Pure Detail on Sunday! Very pleased with the results, you can see in this pic the paint has been brought back to life. 90% of the swirls have gone (I didnt go for a full correction) and there is a nice protection later on the paint now!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05281.jpg&hash=be6dbec973ce12551cf6f1a85ab2e71dfcf0bd9e)

I have the new short springs from KW and they will be fitted asap, these will allow me to drop the front end of the car another 40mm.. The rear still has about 30mm to come down on the adjusters so its going to be pretty low!!!

Im getting the carbon panels for the fog light blanks tomorrow so ill get the two lower grills sorted out over the weekend and they should be on next week along with another 'addition'..

I have decided to buy a set of summer wheels to run for the next few months.. Im still having the Alleggeritas for track / drag days but I just though while the weather is nice, it would be worth going for it!! Pics next week..

Little teaser..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2F2303105980_c89dcc7b4f_b.jpg&hash=54c08b083f1b0e7ae1ca27092a3476eae4064ce7)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gazbutS3 on May 26, 2009, 09:47:28 pm
do they have white centres :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 26, 2009, 09:50:13 pm
Looks great fella and i am just about to do my front lip on mine  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Toast on May 26, 2009, 09:51:26 pm
And were they previously on a white s3??? :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on May 26, 2009, 10:16:33 pm
you seriously have to much ££££££, great  build thread, when s the BT going on then??? what you putting on there?? GT30-GT35 or bigger???
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on May 26, 2009, 10:45:36 pm
your car just seems to get better and better!! if those are the white bbs wheels that were on the s3 its going to look :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on May 27, 2009, 11:26:40 am
Nice wheels, you slut.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on May 27, 2009, 12:06:41 pm
i love those wheels!! you lucky bugger!  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on May 27, 2009, 12:47:59 pm
Hey,

Just got the new springs through and thought I would post a pic..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05286.jpg&hash=315ed7d88acdf4b19b0a4bf70ebeed2249d1d052)

How cute!!!

Heres a photoshop of how it should look when there on..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05281editsmall.jpg&hash=7eba187ea5df09182064f5e0f9fd71a5b5460c90)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on May 27, 2009, 12:53:01 pm
 :chicken:  Your teeth are going to be dropping out over the bumps.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on May 27, 2009, 07:01:29 pm
mine was as low as that and it drove quite nice!! need to get the archs rolled though as the front one was catching on the wheels
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on May 27, 2009, 08:58:07 pm
loving the update! am going to have to call round for some help if i go ahead wiv my vinyl wrap plans!!!

bought jonny's old gti bumper on saturday so i know what the wheels are  :P

 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: sm17hy on May 28, 2009, 09:33:55 pm

Heres a photoshop of how it should look when there on..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05281editsmall.jpg&hash=7eba187ea5df09182064f5e0f9fd71a5b5460c90)

lovely car mate!!! no wonder he can spend money like that look at his house... is that corner of the east wing ha ha

you need to do a spec list!

keep up nice work  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on May 29, 2009, 04:47:46 pm
you need to do a spec list!

Are you sure you have time to read it all  :laugh:

Im guessing thats the parents house as Jonny is 22?

If not them bloody hell your doing well for yourself, looks like a sweet pad  :happy2:

Oh and if that was my CF bonnet I would keep it that colour as it makes it look far more aggressive.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on May 29, 2009, 05:57:19 pm
So is this thread gonna stop before it reaches the Great Page number of 69!!!?  as hes no longer building this car?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on May 29, 2009, 09:15:36 pm
I reckon it will - lets help him out  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on May 29, 2009, 09:30:51 pm
Yes, I'm all for helping out - something magical about that number.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cuzmk5 on May 29, 2009, 09:36:14 pm
wat a sweet motor, lot of money been spent there.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 30, 2009, 10:10:00 am

Are the springs on for the KWs yet?  If not are they for sale? Made for variant 3's?

69 yet?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 30, 2009, 10:17:51 am

Are the springs on for the KWs yet?  If not are they for sale? Made for variant 3's?


....I don't expect they'll be for sale unless Jonny succeeds in an agreed sale of his Ed30 in his quest to buy the R8.

And then his Ed30 buyer may want them included in the deal.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on May 30, 2009, 03:55:36 pm
it had to be you Robin to start Page 69

 :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on May 30, 2009, 04:14:44 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.spreadshirt.com%2Fimage-server%2Fimage%2Fproduct%2F3879639%2Fview%2F1%2Ftype%2Fpng%2Fwidth%2F280%2Fheight%2F280&hash=d66685b46dd55cf6287481b070faf731c3cd142b)

^ Looks like they are the weight saving version too! :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on May 31, 2009, 03:33:45 pm
By the potential new owner?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: illyun on May 31, 2009, 05:28:10 pm
Depending on how the sale of the car goes ill continue the build thread here..

http://vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=15

Does that mean you are leaving this forum even if you don't sell the car?  :sad: :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 03, 2009, 09:08:36 pm

Pics pics pics pics, rims rims rims rims!  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 06, 2009, 05:22:22 pm

Pics pics pics pics, rims rims rims rims!  :P

Here we are.. New wheels on, just a few pics to take a look at!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05309.jpg&hash=1a5e6f88a60021e42975d11a4000a053284bb2e8)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05298.jpg&hash=a73ffaa14d59ea447b521e50e2cc0b2ca56cbacb)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC053001.jpg&hash=2e99762a79857a6f0051f140649e8f54339d92fb)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC052977.jpg&hash=373f6edf32900393af87806b4b493e232bdb4d68)

Pleased with the look, pretty different to the last set but at the moment the plan is to run these for the next couple of month then go from there!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on June 06, 2009, 05:41:35 pm
Nice choice Jonny! I wonder how many people will assume the car is all show and no go? PMSL


So is the E30 staying?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 06, 2009, 06:13:13 pm
Nice choice Jonny! I wonder how many people will assume the car is all show and no go? PMSL


So is the E30 staying?

Possibly..

Ill be running a couple of different wheels on the front end at Inters just for a couple of runs on the sprint in the afternoon..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on June 07, 2009, 10:50:32 am
have you photoshopped that?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 07, 2009, 11:06:45 am
have you photoshopped that?

Just dropped it 10mm to make up for the difference between the 235 and 215 tyre as the ride height was set for the last set.

It will sit exactly as it is in the pics though once I get the ride height adjusted..

How come??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on June 07, 2009, 11:53:42 am
Looks awesome Jonny  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 07, 2009, 02:41:46 pm
come on jonny we need a full on side shot of these on the car and from a few angles  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: matt a on June 07, 2009, 02:50:52 pm
I guess Jonny has only put one on!? but more full car shots would indeed be great!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 07, 2009, 09:56:54 pm
Quote
The next area to look at is the suspension itself, im going to be fitting a set of lightweight KW Race anti-roll bars, these are 3 way adjustable and should help control the rate of roll, just something that is nice to have, also should save me a couple of KG's which helps!

Ill be replacing the front bottom arms with OEM TT items, these are not only lighter (aluminium rather than steel) but they also offer an additional 0.5 degrees negative camber for the front end, so I should be able to run around 2.7 degrees front static camber and keep all of the caster I have too, looking forward to these!

TT arms..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FMay09a.jpg&hash=e9819ac864db26059524ac105a51a388d3d3c224)

Compared to stock..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FMay09g.jpg&hash=7c868cc25527fbaa1d339c3ae8db4ea902786e2d)

They will also be fitted with the WALK and poly bushed rear bushes at the same time.. 4kg lighter than the stock items apparently too!

 
Quote


JonnyC have you fitted the TT lower arms, walk and rear bushings yet. if so how has it transformed. the handling of the car
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: plush-automotive on June 10, 2009, 09:46:52 am
love the new wheels jonny the car is gorgous man. :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on June 10, 2009, 08:50:11 pm
Just Read the whole thread,great project.Will be interesting to see if you can hit 11's now,i should have thought a 2s 60ft is easily possible.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on June 14, 2009, 12:16:28 am
If he doesnt sell up for the R8...


Still set on the R8 Jonny??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 17, 2009, 07:44:48 pm
Wheels are on, coils are slammed down and car is cleeeeean! Ill get some pics and post them up in a bit..

Oh my god..  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NB07 on June 17, 2009, 07:56:22 pm
 :party:

get on with it  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on June 17, 2009, 08:00:52 pm
get those pictures up :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: plush-automotive on June 17, 2009, 10:55:12 pm
yeah gagging to see this dude hurry up.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 17, 2009, 11:32:08 pm
Wheels are on, coils are slammed down and car is cleeeeean! Ill get some pics and post them up in a bit..

Oh my god..  :laugh:
Now mate, i've got a bit of a wager on you against a lad from Regal i know who reckons Chris' (your old) Golf will do yours at Inters down the strip.. Apparently he has 440bhp now and a few other tricks. Still fancy yours doing him though, don't let me down..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 17, 2009, 11:40:16 pm
Wheels are on, coils are slammed down and car is cleeeeean! Ill get some pics and post them up in a bit..

Oh my god..  :laugh:
Now mate, i've got a bit of a wager on you against a lad from Regal i know who reckons Chris' (your old) Golf will do yours at Inters down the strip.. Apparently he has 440bhp now and a few other tricks. Still fancy yours doing him though, don't let me down..  :grin:

Dont be daft..

(just uploading pics now)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 17, 2009, 11:44:41 pm
Here we go..

Wheels are on!! Pics first..

(start with a nice side shot as requested)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05306.jpg&hash=a49d042d0545fdb7e3c248a742a244098fd70bb9)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05305.jpg&hash=52fb9c7d80f7950c66f31879cb46001d648cedfe)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05307.jpg&hash=d1fe165814ebd89b3a41e66962fea91bec6aedb9)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05312.jpg&hash=bdd97eb2d0957755980a770d789c9bcec6c820c4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05310.jpg&hash=43eb0bd7a7d98249dc713247a7c74719b332acd6)

I have set the coils to where im happy with at the moment (I can still go lower if I want with no problems) but the car runs well as it is, no rubbing what so ever and I think its low without looking TOO low..??

Really pleased with the looks..

Only problem is that there is NO grip, and that needs to be sorted out as Ill get pretty tired of that quickly! The plan is to get the front and rear arches rolled and try and get a sticky 225/35/19 tyre on them and wind off a little camber to help again with traction.. Both of those things require room in the arches though, and there isn't really much to spare!!

Oh and the brakes look well through them too..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05313.jpg&hash=9628ec0cb1b7e90635008b49510d5be42d979686)

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: wigit on June 17, 2009, 11:47:08 pm
pure class JC  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Cooper on June 17, 2009, 11:56:03 pm
 :drool: Looks awesome Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vwrascal on June 18, 2009, 12:26:12 am
wheels are pure sexytimeslutfest - looks spot on   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: J5BWS on June 18, 2009, 12:55:38 am
Very nice mate although I'd be after MORE grip as soon as knowing how you lean on it! ;)  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on June 18, 2009, 07:44:20 am
that looks bloody fantastic. nice work! :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on June 18, 2009, 07:52:45 am
feck me they are 19's ! car looks stunning ,  love the bonnet back to white , very stealth OEM+  :evilgrin:
i take it grip issues are going from 18in semi slicks to 19in road tyres ?
any plans to weigh it again / corner weight setup with these recent changes, or have you done that ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Greeners on June 18, 2009, 08:29:00 am
One word, WOW!  :drool:

I think I just had a trouser moment!  :love:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on June 18, 2009, 09:11:36 am
looks stunning  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on June 18, 2009, 09:12:13 am
....

Superbe!! Filet mignon!!

I knew white alloys would look good. Very unique car - All go but with plenty show!

Uber cool! :happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 18, 2009, 09:54:51 am
feck me they are 19's ! car looks stunning ,  love the bonnet back to white , very stealth OEM+  :evilgrin:
i take it grip issues are going from 18in semi slicks to 19in road tyres ?
any plans to weigh it again / corner weight setup with these recent changes, or have you done that ?

That is basically the issue yeah, 235 R888's to 215 Proxes.. Makes a pretty HUGE difference to the grip levels.. (put it this way, im not thinking about big turbo at the minute) lol..

The car needs a full set up, there is a load more work to get the wheels / tyres to fit perfectly as I want them to, with the larger tyre and less camber etc etc.. It wont look any different really but will drive lots better

Cheers for the comments

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on June 18, 2009, 10:09:42 am
Looks awesome Jonny, can't wait to see it at Inters  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: P10YRS on June 18, 2009, 11:21:07 am
The Wheels look proper on the car :wink:r

Are you keeping the centres of the wheels white or going to change them?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: luca on June 18, 2009, 12:18:05 pm
Looks very nice jonny, keep up the good work :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 18, 2009, 12:41:10 pm
how has the TT lower control arms and walk transformed the car.

i have toyo proxes T1Rs on mine at the moment and they they took nearly 600 miles before i got any were near normal grip that i was expecting, it power understeered on a severe level up until that point, however 2000 miles on they are still no where near as grippy, wet or dry as what my vredestein ultrac sessantas were.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: plush-automotive on June 18, 2009, 06:11:48 pm
love it mate looks proper serious :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 18, 2009, 09:09:48 pm
How heavy are these wheels compared to the TD's mate? Or are these just for show and other rims for track/strip action?
Looks ok too I suppose..  :wink: :signLOL:


P.s. Did you get my text last weekend mate?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 19, 2009, 12:42:21 am
How heavy are these wheels compared to the TD's mate? Or are these just for show and other rims for track/strip action?
Looks ok too I suppose..  :wink: :signLOL:


P.s. Did you get my text last weekend mate?

There heavy, still not as heavy as the OEM wheels though so not terrible..

Na, send me a PM mate
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: bennylenny88 on June 19, 2009, 12:52:35 pm
looks good mate  :happy2: you missed a spot though  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 19, 2009, 02:49:36 pm
you missed a spot though  :signLOL:

???
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NotNormal on June 19, 2009, 02:55:36 pm
I'm feeling the rim's, stance and over all looks and gogo of the car

Loving it :D


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mixit on June 19, 2009, 02:56:27 pm
That looks amazing. Love the rims.   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: bennylenny88 on June 19, 2009, 03:16:18 pm
you missed a spot though  :signLOL:

???

you didnt clean your alloys properly  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 19, 2009, 03:22:51 pm
you missed a spot though  :signLOL:

???

you didnt clean your alloys properly  :rolleye:

If you ask me nicely ill let you clean them for me  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 22, 2009, 11:29:33 am
Some rolling shots..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC06081.jpg&hash=21387388eca822069fb0c646012715ced77c54df)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC06080.jpg&hash=5dd105258c84c7bb39769e0113f07866291bffd2)

(not exactly very clean I know..)

Got a load of bits to finish off this week in preparation for GTI International..

Just doing a list now, up to about 20 things at the minute, hopefully I should have time to get them all done in time!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on June 22, 2009, 11:32:42 am
looking fantastic matey, it really does look the biz! ;)  :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on June 22, 2009, 12:14:13 pm
looks fantastic. i really need to get some rolling shots done of mine
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on June 22, 2009, 07:36:21 pm
The rims look fantastic mate, look forward to seeing it at Inters  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 22, 2009, 07:39:07 pm
The car will be looking quite different as Inters, its going to be in its fast spec there haha.. Not poser / scraping off the ground spec

Got to give myself the best chance I can on the strip! haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on June 22, 2009, 08:17:31 pm
I thought you may do that, bring a buzz gun and a jack and stick the TD's in the boot  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 22, 2009, 10:25:40 pm
I thought you may do that, bring a buzz gun and a jack and stick the TD's in the boot  :grin:

Ill be driving down on the TD's.. Can't be arsed changing them when I get there to have to change back for the drive back etc.. Ride heights will all need adjusting too..

Just managed to get a bit more weight out of it too!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 22, 2009, 10:50:04 pm
Quote
Just managed to get a bit more weight out of it too!

Go onnnnnnnnnn?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on June 23, 2009, 10:41:50 am
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2009, 11:09:51 am
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:

I have managed to get another 15 or so kg out just giving it a good going over the whole car..

Should be down to just under 1200kg for the weekend all being well!

Also got some new trick bits going on the car tomorrow, ill get some pics up once there on! Im hoping that they should help a little, all the testing has been looking very good so we will see!

Im really keen to get the boot and rear windows done soon as possible as the weight is unbelievable in the stock parts.. Plan is carbon boot with polycarbonate rear 3 windows, that lot should save about 40kg!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on June 23, 2009, 11:31:38 am
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:

Im really keen to get the boot and rear windows done soon as possible as the weight is unbelievable in the stock parts.. Plan is carbon boot with polycarbonate rear 3 windows, that lot should save about 40kg!!

Holy sh*t, I didn't know they weighed that much  :surprised: That should help then  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2009, 11:42:54 am
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:

Im really keen to get the boot and rear windows done soon as possible as the weight is unbelievable in the stock parts.. Plan is carbon boot with polycarbonate rear 3 windows, that lot should save about 40kg!!

Holy sh*t, I didn't know they weighed that much  :surprised: That should help then  :happy2:

The boot and window complete weighs about 40kg! Crazy.. Just a shame that im going to have to sort out the carbon boot myself as no one actually makes a 'carbon' boot.. Plenty of poorly fitting fibre glass items on the market though..

Im hoping to get another 10kg or so out of the car today.. No idea where from, but there must be something left that I can put in the big box in the garage! haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 23, 2009, 12:24:56 pm
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:

Im really keen to get the boot and rear windows done soon as possible as the weight is unbelievable in the stock parts.. Plan is carbon boot with polycarbonate rear 3 windows, that lot should save about 40kg!!

Holy sh*t, I didn't know they weighed that much  :surprised: That should help then  :happy2:

The boot and window complete weighs about 40kg! Crazy.. Just a shame that im going to have to sort out the carbon boot myself as no one actually makes a 'carbon' boot.. Plenty of poorly fitting fibre glass items on the market though..

Im hoping to get another 10kg or so out of the car today.. No idea where from, but there must be something left that I can put in the big box in the garage! haha..

Thought about poly carb rear windows a few times but cant help thinking it wouldnt look as high quality / oem
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2009, 12:26:20 pm
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:

Im really keen to get the boot and rear windows done soon as possible as the weight is unbelievable in the stock parts.. Plan is carbon boot with polycarbonate rear 3 windows, that lot should save about 40kg!!

Holy sh*t, I didn't know they weighed that much  :surprised: That should help then  :happy2:

The boot and window complete weighs about 40kg! Crazy.. Just a shame that im going to have to sort out the carbon boot myself as no one actually makes a 'carbon' boot.. Plenty of poorly fitting fibre glass items on the market though..

Im hoping to get another 10kg or so out of the car today.. No idea where from, but there must be something left that I can put in the big box in the garage! haha..

Thought about poly carb rear windows a few times but cant help thinking it wouldnt look as high quality / oem

The kit im looking at looks fantastic.. If you look after them well then they look like glass
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on June 23, 2009, 02:29:55 pm
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:

Im really keen to get the boot and rear windows done soon as possible as the weight is unbelievable in the stock parts.. Plan is carbon boot with polycarbonate rear 3 windows, that lot should save about 40kg!!

Holy sh*t, I didn't know they weighed that much  :surprised: That should help then  :happy2:

Im hoping to get another 10kg or so out of the car today.. No idea where from, but there must be something left that I can put in the big box in the garage! haha..
Perhaps put a remote control Kit inside it jonny, sit on the side of the quarter mile with your hand controls and sorted, theres more weight saving right there   :wink: :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 23, 2009, 03:04:15 pm
Im intrigued, please do tell  :confused:

Im really keen to get the boot and rear windows done soon as possible as the weight is unbelievable in the stock parts.. Plan is carbon boot with polycarbonate rear 3 windows, that lot should save about 40kg!!

Holy sh*t, I didn't know they weighed that much  :surprised: That should help then  :happy2:

The boot and window complete weighs about 40kg! Crazy.. Just a shame that im going to have to sort out the carbon boot myself as no one actually makes a 'carbon' boot.. Plenty of poorly fitting fibre glass items on the market though..

Im hoping to get another 10kg or so out of the car today.. No idea where from, but there must be something left that I can put in the big box in the garage! haha..

Thought about poly carb rear windows a few times but cant help thinking it wouldnt look as high quality / oem

The kit im looking at looks fantastic.. If you look after them well then they look like glass

Really Hmmmm  :party: Where's that from? 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2009, 05:35:13 pm
You can get them through VW Racing.. Im going to have a kit made once I sort out the carbon boot.. Makes sense doing it all at the same time..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 23, 2009, 06:23:23 pm
You can get them through VW Racing.. Im going to have a kit made once I sort out the carbon boot.. Makes sense doing it all at the same time..

Dedication! I love it! 

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cal tdi on June 23, 2009, 07:26:21 pm
insane forward rake and race fuel???  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on June 23, 2009, 08:31:21 pm
sh*t or bust Jonny, gallon of tolurine and the timing as far advanced as you can get it FTW.

Seriously though - the traction is gash, the timing gear is questionable, its slightly uphill and you've the risk of some MK2 thowing its guts at you... it's for funsies only!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on June 23, 2009, 09:07:34 pm
insane forward rake and race fuel???  :party:

Considered it but that would go against what I have always said, I use my car every day, and ill drive it there, as I use it each day and make no special adjustments..

Yeah I could throw £100 worth of race fuel in it and make another 20bhp+ but thats not how the car runs day to day.. It will be on V-Power and road legal tyres..

sh*t or bust Jonny, gallon of tolurine and the timing as far advanced as you can get it FTW.

Seriously though - the traction is gash, the timing gear is questionable, its slightly uphill and you've the risk of some MK2 thowing its guts at you... it's for funsies only!

Haha..

Na I know mate, its all relative though, should be the same for everyone, If i go any faster than I have at Santa Pod then I wont be quoting figures from Inters, as its hardly a certified track..

Done a couple of practice launches on 'normal' tarmac, and I can lunch from 4k with minimal wheel spin.. Grip isn't actually too bad with the new suspension set up.. Stiffer rear has helped a huge amount!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tomoc2003 on June 23, 2009, 09:31:23 pm
Can't wait for the weekend! So if you need any help with the list me and Giles are free from tomorrow onwards
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on June 23, 2009, 10:19:41 pm
Yup - forget times, Inters is all about beating stuff off the line and screaming it up the strip for the crowds. Sunday afternoon will be fun once all the big boys come out to play...

I can't wait.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on September 05, 2009, 12:33:50 pm
Hey all..

Been a long time since I posted an update on here but thought its about time seen as how the car is now up for sale..

So we went to GTI International with the car in its new guise, not everyones taste but I liked it, it suited the day and the shock factor of red wheels combined with the carbon bonnet was worth it lol..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FSDC11035.jpg&hash=1fb590b8160783f592dbe09e083e4d9116c1a423)
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There were lots of quick 2.0T FSI cars there so it was set to be a good day..

I was pleased to come away from the event with fastest MK5 (no matter what all of the results seemed to say) with my fastest 0-60 being 4.53 seconds and the fastest 1/4 mile time of 12.79 which was good enough for 9th fastest overall on the day, and 2nd fastest FWD car of the weekend.. All on a little K04!!

Was a good day all round and again the little Golf showed up lots of big power / big talk cars!

After getting back from GTI International I decided that I wanted a new project, with the aim of having the first 2.0T FSI car in the 10's on a standard 1/4 mile..

The base had to be 4wd so there was really only one choice.. I went with my old S3 as that was back for sale and there is a whole different story with that one. Anyone that has been following the build thread of the S3 knows what im talking about..

So anyways I took the decision to tone down the Golf from its lightweight spec to a more road friendly daily driver and this is the result..

H&R Monotube coilovers - Raised up to be speed bump / car park friendly
Road spec engine mounts
Standard interior back in
MTM 19" rims with standard road tyres

Heres some pics..

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The car is still very quick, doesn't quite have the edge that it did have because of the weight being back in but for sure it would still run a 12 second 1/4..

Really having two cars, both in modified spec is a little bit of an extravagance at my age so I have taken the decision to sell the Golf and concentrate solely on the S3 and achieving my Goal with that one..

Just to sum up, the Golf has been a fantastic car, never missed a beat and has achieved a fair bit in its time too!

* Fastest 2.0T FSI in the UK
* Fastest FWD 2.0T FSI in the UK
* Fastest MK5 Golf GTI in the UK
* Fastest FWD K04 2.0T FSI in the world
* Fastest DSG MK5 GTI in the world

Not bad really!!

The car is for sale at £20,500 with OEM S3 brakes or £22,000 including the VWR brakes

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on September 05, 2009, 02:31:58 pm
....

It's strange, but having read so much about how this car has evolved, it feels as if I know it very well and I do hope it finds a more appreciative owner than your S3 did before it came back to you.

I love those red wheels and it even had me thinking for a moment about my new OZ Alleggerita's in red!

Somewhere in this 73-page thread there's detail about the duct thingy in your foglight panel. What are those called, Jonny please, so I can find one - I'm talking about the circular finisher which tidies up a round duct hole in a body panel - Hope you know what I'm trying to describe.

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on September 05, 2009, 02:51:06 pm
....

It's strange, but having read so much about how this car has evolved, it feels as if I know it very well and I do hope it finds a more appreciative owner than your S3 did before it came back to you.

I love those red wheels and it even had me thinking for a moment about my new OZ Alleggerita's in red!

Somewhere in this 73-page thread there's detail about the duct thingy in your foglight panel. What are those called, Jonny please, so I can find one - I'm talking about the circular finisher which tidies up a round duct hole in a body panel - Hope you know what I'm trying to describe.

:happy2:

Send me a PM, I have something that should do the job..   :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 11, 2009, 12:22:47 pm
Hey..

Just thought I would post up in here to let you all know..

The Golf is for sale.. for £20,500 which will include all of the spec below!

REVO SELECT PLUS CONTROLLER
REVO STAGE 2
REVO STAGE 2+
AUTOTECH 2ND GENERATION HIGH FLOW FUEL PUMP (FITTED)
OEM 'D' VALVE
FORGE MOTORSPORT PCV FIX / CATCH CAN SYSTEM
FORGE MOTORSPORT INTERCOOLER KIT - MK5 GTI ED30
FORGE MOTORSPORT TWINTAKE
REFLECT-A-GOLD TAPE
EXHAUSTS UK T304 DOWNPIPE - 76MM
EXHAUSTS UK T304 SINGLE BOX REAR SECTION - 76MM
H&R MONO TUBE COILOVER KIT
WHITELINE ANTI-LIFT CASTER KIT
QUAIFE 2.0T FSI DSG AUTOMATIC TORQUE BAISING DIFFERENTIAL
VF ENGINEERING PENDULUM MOUNT
VF ENGINEERING GEARBOX MOUNT - RIGHT
VF ENGINEERING ENGINE MOUNT - LEFT
OEM AUDI S3 BIG BRAKE KIT
OEM GTI REAR DISCS
OEM GTI REAR PADS
PERFORMANCE BRAKE FLUID
OEM ED30 FRONT SPLITTER CENTRE SECTION - MATTE BLACK VINYL
OEM GTI GRILL - SMOOTHED / MATTE BLACK VINYL
REAR ED30 & GTI BADGE REMOVED
ALTA SHORT RADIO ANTENNA
REAR SCREEN WIPER ASSEMBLY REMOVED - BLACK BUNG INSTALLED
FULL AC SYSTEM REMOVED - ALL OF THIS I HAVE
HIDS4U 8000K D2S HID BULBS
XENON MATCH LED RESISTOR NUMBER PLATE BULBS
MTM BI-MOTO 19X8.5 / ET45 WHEELS - SATIN BLACK
CONTINENTAL SPORT CONTACT 3 - 235/35/19

Any questions let me know

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Msportman on November 11, 2009, 07:11:41 pm
Johnny

Seen your car on PH's.Very nice :happy2:

I've decided to strip the3 bits of mine as people are not interested seemingly in paying over the odds for modded car's.

I had my 07 Edition 30 with 30k and all the bit's up for £18k and no takers even though the spec is nice and it's Number 30! Your car has a few more nicer bit's than mine with Diff,brakes etc etc.

Stealer prices are anything between 16k-18k for OE examples therefore I'm putting mine back to OE and dropping it to sell.

Will sell all of my APR bits and Clubsports seperately together with wheels spacers.

I had experience of this the last time I sold my APR Stage 3+ it took me months.

At least the Edition 30 is still very desirable and I was offered close to £15k trade cash by dealer.

Christmas and Recession it's not a good time. :sad1:

Good luck with yours.
 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on November 11, 2009, 08:37:02 pm
Iv done the lotto 2nite mate, if i win il be in touch ASAP!!

Good luck with sale though :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on November 11, 2009, 10:51:24 pm
Your more likely to sell it Msportsman as standard as you can get it. Some people are put off by highly moddified and taking a Risk on parting with 18k where theres a risk of it going Bang.

Im very surprised yours hasnt had more interest tbh.

The Build number alone would appeal to a Fan of the GTi.

Sorry Jonny..... for going Off topic :notworthy:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Msportman on November 11, 2009, 10:58:50 pm
Your more likely to sell it Msportsman as standard as you can get it. Some people are put off by highly moddified and taking a Risk on parting with 18k where theres a risk of it going Bang.

Im very surprised yours hasnt had more interest tbh.

The Build number alone would appeal to a Fan of the GTi.

Sorry Jonny..... for going Off topic :notworthy:
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I agree.

Johnny maybe happy to wait for the right buyer.

I've had no viewings but to sell it as standard I need to put it on Autotrader and drop it to 15-16k

Main dealers are asking ridiculous prices........the bits should sell elsewhere on other VAG forums hopefully.

I'm resigned to the fact on the run up to Xmas I may have to hold off until the New Year.

Still I am enjoying the car 'when' I get to drive it...got keep the miles off tpo get the max I can on the sale. :sad1:  
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on November 11, 2009, 11:00:24 pm
15k-16k is too cheap imo.Wait till the new year if you can.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on November 11, 2009, 11:04:23 pm
this time of year is always slow, people gearing up for xmas etc. January february time stuff picks up again. Reckon you two should break the mods off it so I can scavenge.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 11, 2009, 11:28:27 pm


* Fastest 2.0T FSI in the UK
* Fastest FWD 2.0T FSI in the UK
* Fastest MK5 Golf GTI in the UK
* Fastest FWD K04 2.0T FSI in the world
* Fastest DSG MK5 GTI in the world




Seems someone had pipped you bud.. Albeit on a makeshift drag strip.. :scared:



Is a proper awesome car that of yours though and someone is going to have a weapon on their hands...  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 11, 2009, 11:48:58 pm


* Fastest 2.0T FSI in the UK
* Fastest FWD 2.0T FSI in the UK
* Fastest MK5 Golf GTI in the UK
* Fastest FWD K04 2.0T FSI in the world
* Fastest DSG MK5 GTI in the world




Seems someone had pipped you bud.. Albeit on a makeshift drag strip.. :scared:



Is a proper awesome car that of yours though and someone is going to have a weapon on their hands...  :wink:

Ahh yeah.. Well to be honest I wouldn't be quoting 1/4 figures unless they were from a proper track but each to their own..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on November 11, 2009, 11:53:29 pm

Seems someone had pipped you bud.. Albeit on a makeshift drag strip.. :scared:


....A makeshift drag strip isn't a NHRA approved one like Santa Pod is. Or rather it's the timing gear used which is so critical and must be approved as I understand it.

Worth hanging on for a buyer I reckon - Very special car and you couldn't ask for a better maintained one either. The person who eventually buys it should be over the moon. It's just a matter of Jonny accepting a loss on the cost of his mods, but every one of use loses money when we sell any car. So what? We enjoyed it - It's the price we pay for our joy.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 11, 2009, 11:58:39 pm

Seems someone had pipped you bud.. Albeit on a makeshift drag strip.. :scared:


....A makeshift drag strip isn't a NHRA approved one like Santa Pod is. Or rather it's the timing gear used which is so critical and must be approved as I understand it.

Worth hanging on for a buyer I reckon - Very special car and you couldn't ask for a better maintained one either. The person who eventually buys it should be over the moon. It's just a matter of Jonny accepting a loss on the cost of his mods, but every one of use loses money when we sell any car. So what? We enjoyed it - It's the price we pay for our joy.

Most of the time its down to the actual length of the track.. But anyways its cool that someone has gone quicker..

There is a new record for DSG set with a 12.0 @ 116mph for a MK5 GTI with APR Stage 3 running the race tune on Slicks..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 12, 2009, 12:13:40 pm
It does seem that a lot of 1/4 mile tracks abroad seem to run quicker than UK with equivlent cars. But there is so much to take into account (ie air temps, surface, altitude etc), so always a bloody mine field really.
Shows what a difference slicks make though Johnny. That APR Stage 3 GTI runs the same terminal speed as yours, but over 1/2 second quicker..  :surprised:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 12, 2009, 12:20:43 pm
It does seem that a lot of 1/4 mile tracks abroad seem to run quicker than UK with equivlent cars. But there is so much to take into account (ie air temps, surface, altitude etc), so always a bloody mine field really.
Shows what a difference slicks make though Johnny. That APR Stage 3 GTI runs the same terminal speed as yours, but over 1/2 second quicker..  :surprised:

Which confirms the APR Stage 3 kit, even with the optional race fuel map and built motor in the real world would be no quicker than a Revo Stage 2+ K04.. Hmm..

Anyways im going to stop there before I get a beat down from the APR fan club  :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on November 12, 2009, 12:36:33 pm
It does seem that a lot of 1/4 mile tracks abroad seem to run quicker than UK with equivlent cars. But there is so much to take into account (ie air temps, surface, altitude etc), so always a bloody mine field really.
Shows what a difference slicks make though Johnny. That APR Stage 3 GTI runs the same terminal speed as yours, but over 1/2 second quicker..  :surprised:

Which confirms the APR Stage 3 kit, even with the optional race fuel map and built motor in the real world would be no quicker than a Revo Stage 2+ K04.. Hmm..

Anyways im going to stop there before I get a beat down from the APR fan club  :happy2: :happy2:

That's what I was thinking..
 :scared: :fighting:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Msportman on November 12, 2009, 07:47:53 pm
It does seem that a lot of 1/4 mile tracks abroad seem to run quicker than UK with equivlent cars. But there is so much to take into account (ie air temps, surface, altitude etc), so always a bloody mine field really.
Shows what a difference slicks make though Johnny. That APR Stage 3 GTI runs the same terminal speed as yours, but over 1/2 second quicker..  :surprised:

Which confirms the APR Stage 3 kit, even with the optional race fuel map and built motor in the real world would be no quicker than a Revo Stage 2+ K04.. Hmm..

Anyways im going to stop there before I get a beat down from the APR fan club  :happy2: :happy2:

Too right :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: KRL on November 12, 2009, 07:58:31 pm
Did Keith ever post the reply he said he was going to?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 12, 2009, 08:01:02 pm
Did Keith ever post the reply he said he was going to?

No.. As suspected.. Running away from it thats all..

Anyways lets not get onto that subject, I dont fancy this thread getting locked too!!  :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: KRL on November 12, 2009, 08:01:38 pm
Agreed.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Vick N on November 16, 2009, 06:21:15 pm
Awesome mate   :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on November 19, 2009, 08:42:21 pm
New turbo = Gunning for APR??

Cant wait for the updates, is it going to be the same turbs as the S3?
 :star:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 19, 2009, 09:18:53 pm
New turbo = Gunning for APR??

Cant wait for the updates, is it going to be the same turbs as the S3?
 :star:


For the engine im looking at the following..

Built motor / BSH GT3076R turbo Kit / Lots of trick bits.. The aim is a solid 500hp

For the chassis and interior its going to get serious

The aim is 1000kg which is going to mean very in depth weight saving! The last time the car was on the scales it was 1190kg so there is plenty to come out..

At the moment I can see it getting down to 1050kg, thats with extensive carbon / plastic work etc and the last 50kg will come from gutting the interior and replacing with superlight weight materials..

Its in no way going to look like a shell inside though, carbon, flocking, alcantara etc etc.. All super light weight but with a high quality feel

Ha, gunning is not the word.. Running a high 11 will be VERY easy with the plans that I have, the car would do that now with slicks and race fuel on the K04!!!

Throw some race fuel and drag slicks on it (play them at their own game) And im looking to get deep into the 10's with the new spec..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on November 19, 2009, 09:29:51 pm
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 :congrats: :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 19, 2009, 10:04:17 pm
so your going to be runnig both the S3 and the Ed30 now then??? which will be quicker when finsished do you think
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 19, 2009, 10:14:47 pm
so your going to be runnig both the S3 and the Ed30 now then??? which will be quicker when finsished do you think

We'll see  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on November 19, 2009, 10:56:42 pm
I'm in for this one....very interested in seeing the post whereby APR defend themselves against a low 10 second car :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 19, 2009, 11:03:53 pm
I'm in for this one....very interested in seeing the post whereby APR defend themselves against a low 10 second car :jumping:

Exactly.. The bull sh*t will stop most probably.. They keep on ignoring the fact that the S3 is up and running and VERY quick.. Such a shame I can't do a run  :sad1:

Anyways John I have a PLAN! Need to speak to you about it.. Think it may be of interest to you  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on November 19, 2009, 11:20:40 pm

Anyways John I have a PLAN! Need to speak to you about it.. Think it may be of interest to you  :wink:

I'm all ears :happy2:

PM me or call in the next 15 mins or so as I've got to be up at 5 am in the morning :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on November 20, 2009, 09:35:25 am
Absolutely bonkers mate  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on November 20, 2009, 09:41:37 am
brilliant news!!! how how i would love to have two cars like this
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on November 20, 2009, 09:54:50 am
Good luck with this Jonny i hope it shuts a few people up when its done and not on race fuel or slicks just to prove a point  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on November 20, 2009, 10:34:29 am


looking forward to what happens with this! :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 01:08:11 pm
Hey!

This is the final list of bits, this includes all of the parts, but obviously not all of it would be done at the same time ala S3 lol..

Engine

BSH TUBULAR MANIFOLD
BSH OIL & WATER LINES - MK5 GOLF GTI
HIGH TEMPERATURE ORANGE HEAT JACKET FOR OIL & WATER LINES
GARETT GT3071R / TIAL .64 AR / BILLET WHEELS / WRC BEARINGS
GARETT GT3076R / TIAL .86 AR / BILLET WHEELS / WRC BEARINGS (TURBO UPGRADE)
TIAL MVS V-BAND 38MM EXTERNAL WASTEGATE - PURPLE
HEAD SKIM
PORTED AND POLISHED HEAD
FERREA 1MM OVER SIZED SOLID LIFTER VALVE TRAIN CONVERSION
BLOCK 83.5MM OVER BORE
JE FSI PISTONS - 83.5MM / 9.5:1 COMPRESSION / COATED CROWNS / COATED SKIRTS
INTEGRATED ENGINEERING NON TAPERED RODS - RIFLE DRILLED
ARP 2000 ROD BOLTS
CALICO COATED BIG END BEARINGS
KNIFE EDGED & BALANCED CRANK
MISC OEM ENGINE REBUILD PARTS
REVO STAGE 3 - PROGRESSIVE THROTTLE / 7200RPM / 1.65 BAR BOOST
OEM AUDI RS4 FSI INJECTORS
AUTOTECH REVISION 2 HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP
OEM HPFP CAM FOLLOWER
LOW PRESSURE FUEL SYSTEM UPGRADE
NGK IRIDIUM IX SPARK PLUG - BKR7EIX
CUSTOM DV RECIRC KIT - FORGE SUPERSIZE DV (BLACK) / 25MM BLACK SILICONE / CLAMPS
CUSTOM ALUMINIUM DV RECIRCULATION PIPE
CUSTOM INLET MANIFOLD BLOCK OFF WITH DV VACCUM FEED
BSH 'VENT TO ATMOSPHERE' RACE CATCH CAN SYSTEM
BSH BREATHER HOSE HEAT INSULATION / HEAT SHRINK ENDS
REAR ROCKER COVER BLOCK OFF BUNG - 25MM BUNG / 25MM BLACK SILICONE / 2X CLAMPS
THS INTERCOOLER - MK5 GOLF GTI
CUSTOM THROTTLE BODY PIPE WITH DV TAKE OFF
CUSTOM ALUMINIUM SWAGED TURBO TO INTERCOOLER PIPE
CUSTOM 76MM TURBO INTAKE PIPE - NO RECIRC BUNG FOR ROCKER COVER
FORGE MOTORSPORT TWINTAKE - MK5 GOLF GTI
BSH 38MM EXTERNAL WASTEGATE DUMP TUBE
CUSTOM 76MM DOWNPIPE - V-BAND CLAMP FITTED AND ADJUSTED
CUSTOM 76MM CAT BACK EXHAUST

Heat Management

ZIRCOTEC PERFORMANCE WHITE CERAMIC COAT - TURBO EXHAUST HOUSING
ZIRCOTEC PERFORMANCE WHITE CERAMIC COAT - EXHAUST MANIFOLD
HEATSHIELDPRODUCTS INFERNO EXHAUST WRAP - DUMP TUBE
HEATSHIELDPRODUCTS INFERNO EXHAUST WRAP - DOWNPIPE TO TAIL PIPE
ZIRCOFLEX ABOVE MANIFOLD / GOLD HEAT WRAP - INTAKE PIPE
GOLD HEAT WRAP - DV RE RECIRCULATION PIPE

Drivetrain

REVO DSG SOFTWARE - STAGE 2
QUAIFE AUTOMATIC TORQUE BIASING DIFERENTIAL - DSG
DSG CLUTCH PACK UPGRADE
BSH RACE ENGINE MOUNT
BSH RACE GEARBOX MOUNT
BSH RACE PENDULUM MOUNT
VWR RACE SOLID LOWER MOUNT INSERT
COMPOMOTIVE M01890 - 18 X 9.0 / ET40 / 5 X 112 - SATIN BLACK (WIDE ARCHES ALL ROUND)
TOYO R888 - 265 / 35 / 18

Chassis

OHLINS 3-WAY RACE DAMPERS
CUSTOM CAMBER / CASTER ADJUSTABLE TOP MOUNTS
VW RACING SPEC KW ANTI-ROLL BAR KIT
WHITELINE ANTI LIFT KIT
POLY BUSHED SUSPENSION ALL ROUND
OEM AUDI TT BOTTOM ARMS
OEM AUDI TT FRONT HUBS - 2.0T FSI FWD
OEM VW SCIROCCO ALUMINIUM REAR SUSPENSION
VW RACING BIG BRAKE PACKAGE - RACE

Weight Saving

RECARO POLE POSITION - BLACK LEATHER / BLACK DYNAMICA
RECARO MK5 GOLF FITTING KIT & ALUMINIUM ABE SIDE MOUNTS
LIGHTWEIGHT REAR INTERIOR FLOOR & OEM BLACK CARPET
OEM REAR SEATS + BELTS REMOVED
MISC SOUND DEADENING AND HEAT PROOFING REMOVED
MISC INTERIOR WEIGHT SAVING
WIDE FRONT AND REAR ARCHES - 20MM ALL ROUND
VW RACING CARBON BONNET
VW RACING CARBON BOOT
VW RACING POLYCARBONATE REAR WINDOW KIT
SINGLE WIPER CONVERSION
LIGHT WEIGHT FRONT & REAR BUMPERS
FRONT & REAR ARCHE LINERS REMOVED
REAR SCREEN WIPER ASSEMBLY REMOVED - BLACK BUNG INSTALLED
REAR BUMPER BAR REMOVED
BRAILLE LIGHTWEIGHT 15LBS BATTERY
CHARCOAL CANISTER REMOVED - BLOCK OFF PIPE INSTALLED
AC PUMP REMOVED / RADIATOR REMOVED / AC HOSES REMOVED
LIGHT WEIGHT AC BRACKET
FULL AC REMOVED
REMOVE FOGS & HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM
REAR BUMPER BAR
REAR WIPER DELETE
UNDER CARPET SOUND DEADENING REMOVED
SINGLE WIPER CONVERSION
SAT NAV / HEATING CONTROLS REMOVED
CHARCOAL CANISTER REMOVAL
REMOVE REAR SEATS
REAR SEAT BELTS
REMOVE BOOT CONTENTS
LIGHT WEIGHT HEATER SYSTEM
LIGHT WEIGHT ENGINE AND CHASSIS WIRING LOOM
ELECTRIC FRONT WINDOWS REMOVED
LIGHT WEIGHT DASH
LIGHTWEIGHT FRONT AND REAR INTERIOR DOOR TRIMS
POLYCARBONATE REAR 3 WINDOWS
LIGHT WEIGHT FRONT BUMPER BAR

Thats about where im at for now, still loads to be considered, but the idea is basically to end up with a 550hp / 1000kg Golf GTI.. With the plans for the suspension / mapping / wheel & tyre set up im confident that the car will be very drivable and EXTREMELY fast at the same time..

I know most people will see that headline figure of 550hp and say that it will be completely pointless, well, it wont  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on November 25, 2009, 01:17:25 pm
wow that is one BIG spec.... i look forward to seeing the build of this car. might be a silly question but what is the reason for going for one turbo then changing it later on ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on November 25, 2009, 01:17:35 pm
Whoa! That's a lot of work there Jonny. I have to say you are an absolute nut job, a lightweight BT S3 and super lightweigth BT ED30  :laugh: That my friend is dedication to the cause  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on November 25, 2009, 01:18:15 pm
Sounding like your getting a taste for the ED30 again.

Love the fact you are carrying on with the project.

Gotta be a 10 second FWD DSG 8)

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on November 25, 2009, 01:20:12 pm
 :congrats:
Subscribed!! :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 01:24:54 pm
wow that is one BIG spec.... i look forward to seeing the build of this car. might be a silly question but what is the reason for going for one turbo then changing it later on ?

Just because I wont be able to use the larger turbo without the engine build / fuel / clutch packs so initially I would run a played with 3071r then have it upgraded to a 3076 with larger exhaust housing..

Whoa! That's a lot of work there Jonny. I have to say you are an absolute nut job, a lightweight BT S3 and super lightweigth BT ED30  :laugh: That my friend is dedication to the cause  :congrats:

We'll see..  :wink:

Sounding like your getting a taste for the ED30 again.

Love the fact you are carrying on with the project.

Gotta be a 10 second FWD DSG 8)

Well for a comparison Hondas in the US running similar type of power and weight, on slicks, get deep into the 10's no worries.. Thats with a manual box, some of them are in the 9's!

With proper tyres on a FWD car you can easily as good a 60 foot times as a 4wd car, but then non of the associated transmission losses or weight once your moving.. Also, FWD is more entertaining for sure!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on November 25, 2009, 01:27:40 pm
That's some list.

cough boot floor cut out cough..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 25, 2009, 01:27:54 pm
I wish!   :drool: :drool:

Great work  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 01:34:36 pm
That's some list.

cough boot floor cut out cough..

I was thinking about that, and im trying to find out how much there is to be saved, from it.. Could be worth doing..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on November 25, 2009, 01:43:41 pm
You'd rough guess it by measuring the thickness and working out the cm3.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: KRL on November 25, 2009, 08:30:09 pm
Go jonny go go go!

Quote
I have to say you are an absolute nut job,

Have to agree with that although you are a good nut job.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 25, 2009, 10:56:01 pm
So I have had a really good think about it and I have made a few decisions on how im going to attack it this time..

Stage 1 - All chassis mods / Suspension + Brakes / All of weight saving
Stage 2 - FULL engine build / Big turbo kit / DSG Clutch packs / Fueling

So rather than go big turbo right away I would do all of the chassis and weight saving stuff first, run the car in the new super light weight trim still with the stock engine / k04 turbo and see what I can do.. See if I can take some time off the 12.6 (Im confident of dropping into the 11's)

I think I would regret not doing this and seeing what's really possible from a stock turbo / engine ED30..

Once the times have bottomed out it will be time to fully build the engine & fit the big turbo etc etc.. Time to see whats really possible with the DSG!

Remember, all with pump fuel and road legal tyres!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: rainking on November 27, 2009, 12:05:42 pm
 :happy2: :drool:

Epic Work.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tinto on November 27, 2009, 12:28:02 pm
I love it.
Nice work Jonny.

Where are the wide arches/flares coming from?
Or will you get away with a lot of rolling?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 27, 2009, 01:17:28 pm
I love it.
Nice work Jonny.

Where are the wide arches/flares coming from?
Or will you get away with a lot of rolling?

Hmm.. Working on this one at the mo actually..

265's are going to be a little wide for a 9" wheel so im actually thinking 255's now, but thats still quite a challenge.. I think I will still need a good 20mm all round, I dont want to run huge camber to make them fit, as thats kind of defeating the point really..

Front arches shouldn't be an issue, pull them, and rolled I think we will be able to get enough, the rears may be more of a challenge..

Think ill buy the wheels and tyres, fit them to the car and then make the arches fit around the wheels/tyres.. Thats the best way I think! Fingers crossed ill be able to run them soon ish!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on November 27, 2009, 01:22:16 pm
There's a wide arch kit for general sale over in the USA. Only issue is it is for the GTI and not the ED 30, so it would have to be "adjusted" to fit on the front and rear bumper lower sections. Also means you would be cleaving parts from the OEM arch and .......it would ADD weight!!!! :chicken:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 27, 2009, 01:38:45 pm
it would ADD weight!!!!

Errrrrghhhh!  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on November 27, 2009, 01:44:00 pm
Have you asked x5pea where he went for his steel arch extensions. A very good job was done there and it still looked OEM. I understand they cut off the original lip and welded in sections and then added the original strip back on. :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 27, 2009, 01:44:47 pm
Have you asked x5pea where he went for his steel arch extensions. A very good job was done there and it still looked OEM. I understand they cut off the original lip and welded in sections and then added the original strip back on. :smiley:

Yeah I did speak to those guys but the quote the gave me for the work was pure comedy!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on November 27, 2009, 01:51:08 pm
Have you asked x5pea where he went for his steel arch extensions. A very good job was done there and it still looked OEM. I understand they cut off the original lip and welded in sections and then added the original strip back on. :smiley:

Yeah I did speak to those guys but the quote the gave me for the work was pure comedy!

I have a hacksaw, plastic and some no more nails if that's any good, otherwise I'm running out of ideas :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tinto on November 27, 2009, 02:24:13 pm
The only context I have for 255 is dangsr on golfmkv, but as you implied - it is done by maxxing out camber

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86499
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 27, 2009, 05:13:03 pm
The only context I have for 255 is dangsr on golfmkv, but as you implied - it is done by maxxing out camber

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86499

Thanks mate I had been looking for that thread..

Yeah he's on 8.5's too.. Im wanting to run 9's all round.. 255 is a bit marginal on an 8.5" rim.. Lots of sidewall flex!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: danishmkvgti on November 27, 2009, 07:25:02 pm
I'm sorry Jonny,

there's no way around it, you just have to have this kit, it's simply a must have item  :signLOL:  :notworthy:

http://bildon.com/catalog/SubCat/body/G5kitcar.cfm?Nav=3

I would so love to have it, but no way in h**l my wife would drive it  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on November 28, 2009, 08:40:18 pm
Have you asked x5pea where he went for his steel arch extensions. A very good job was done there and it still looked OEM. I understand they cut off the original lip and welded in sections and then added the original strip back on. :smiley:

Yeah I did speak to those guys but the quote the gave me for the work was pure comedy!

these guys are good in gloucester they do all custom arch extensions or can do them as i seen a astra van in there once where the kid spent stupid money on it 20-30k and it had custom wide arche's on it !!! bit of a trek but there work is awesome , and they are not out to rip you of like a lot of body shop's , they work on ferrari enzo's , lambo , aston martins the lot, the bloke who runs it is called jeff!!!

KUSTOM 101
4202 Oakfield Close
Tewkesbury Business Park
Glos
GL20 8PF

TEL ; 01684 295969
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 09:34:08 am
KUSTOM 101
4202 Oakfield Close
Tewkesbury Business Park
Glos
GL20 8PF

TEL ; 01684 295969

Cheers mate, will give them a try  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on November 30, 2009, 02:35:45 pm
So Jonny, what are you up to today with the Eddie? :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on November 30, 2009, 03:00:20 pm
I'd love to see the Bildon kit on a white ED30...  :happy2: I'm sure a decent body shop could get the ED30 front splitter and rear diffuser to fit? All that carbon would surely save weight over adding metal with arch extensions?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on November 30, 2009, 03:29:17 pm
So Jonny, what are you up to today with the Eddie? :party:

Today I have mostly been spending money on it lol.. Oh and fit the Red Pro Race wheels back on too..

Having a full day on the car tomorrow to.. Fit VWR Race engine mounts / Light weight battery / Race anti-roll bars / Adjust the suspension and re set-up / take as much weight out as possible from anywhere we can get to!!

Then Wednesday im getting a set of Pole Positions back in it..  :grin:

Then in a couple of weeks the Race suspension, Aluminum suspension components, Race brakes, Carbon bits should be done.. Which will just leave the challenge of fitting the wide wheels and tyres on it!! I have a feeling that will be a nightmare, I dont want to run anything more than 2.5 degrees negative camber..

I'd love to see the Bildon kit on a white ED30...  :happy2: I'm sure a decent body shop could get the ED30 front splitter and rear diffuser to fit? All that carbon would surely save weight over adding metal with arch extensions?

I want the car to look as OEM from the outside as possible really.. Not into all the wide arches etc etc.. The front wings will be made from carbon and painted, and the rears will (hopefully) just be pulled, so it will be very subtle when finished.. And should loose weight in the process too..

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on November 30, 2009, 03:40:48 pm

I'd love to see the Bildon kit on a white ED30...  :happy2: I'm sure a decent body shop could get the ED30 front splitter and rear diffuser to fit? All that carbon would surely save weight over adding metal with arch extensions?

I want the car to look as OEM from the outside as possible really.. Not into all the wide arches etc etc.. The front wings will be made from carbon and painted, and the rears will (hopefully) just be pulled, so it will be very subtle when finished.. And should loose weight in the process too..



Sounds good to me. I don't plan on any (obvious or non-OEM) external mods to my car either... If it doesn't make it faster or lighter, it's not for me. As always Jonny, loving your style!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on December 01, 2009, 11:37:48 am
Looking forward to seeing whats happened in a months time  :pomppomp: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: phil_c+p on December 01, 2009, 05:08:45 pm
At last I find the build post...

As always   :congrats: :jumping:

I need that power - swap you the kit off my car  :party:

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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2009, 05:35:52 pm
Haha, hey Phil..

So yeah, get your RS sold then you can make the GTI a monster! It certainly already looks the part!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: phil_c+p on December 01, 2009, 06:00:29 pm
Haha, hey Phil..

So yeah, get your RS sold then you can make the GTI a monster! It certainly already looks the part!!

Working on it buddy - thanks to you  :surprised: :grin:

K04 - Full Kit
Audi Lower Arms
Audi Hubs
VWR Anti Roll bars
New box with Gripper Diff (bust the other one)
Pedal Box
VWR racing brakes - maybe!?  Having issues with my AP/Performance Friction set-up....
and a couple of other little bits and bobs

p.s never sell the RS  :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 01, 2009, 06:05:41 pm
Haha, hey Phil..

So yeah, get your RS sold then you can make the GTI a monster! It certainly already looks the part!!

Working on it buddy - thanks to you  :surprised: :grin:

K04 - Full Kit
Audi Lower Arms
Audi Hubs
VWR Anti Roll bars
New box with Gripper Diff (bust the other one)
Pedal Box
VWR racing brakes - maybe!?  Having issues with my AP/Performance Friction set-up....
and a couple of other little bits and bobs

p.s never sell the RS  :P

You will thank me when your going faster  :happy2:

Nah RS is a gorgeous car, just wish they were a little faster in a straight line, 4.0 GT3 RSR motor would be nice in a road car!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 03, 2009, 12:48:59 pm
Update..

Hey all..

So had a bit of a day on the car yesterday..

First of all I took a trip to Luca's yesterday to swap the old Pole Positions back that we had done a deal on a while back.. Look good as ever, and the weight difference amazed me again when swapping them, it woke the car up just with the seat change, incredible really, but thats what loosing 50kg does!

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Then on my way home dropped in at ACR yesterday to have a few bits fitted to the car.. As soon as I got there I took the rears seats out too, thats another 50kg saved! Big chunks of weight in the seats!!!

First jobs were a bit of maintenance, so new oil and filter, new OEM cam bucket and a set of Iridium plugs, all in there now, just nice to know that its all running well before I start playing again!

Ill get the DSG serviced next time, we kind of ran out of time!!

Next we got the new engine mounts on there.. VW Racing Race mounts, these are pretty much solid up top for the gear box and engine mount, and then run a solid aluminium insert for the lower subframe, so yeah, there isn't much in the way of engine movement, but I would far rather it be that way! First impressions are that they feel great, changes are back to what they used to be, all good!!

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The we got the front and rear bars on. These are bars made by KW but specifically specced by VW Racing and so there much stiffer than the standard bars, they feel fantastic on the car, really tightened it all up.. Running full stiff at the rear, and soft on the front, seems nice!

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Then it was time to get the Forge PCV / Catch can system on the car, I had been running this on the car previously, but it was the pre production version, some of you may have seen it on the car at GTI International last year.. Anyways, Forge have made a couple of very small changes, and also offer the can and filler neck in black now! Looks great, looks after the engine, and seriously smoothens out the torque throughout the rev range..

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The last job was to fit the Forge Supersize DV, this is pretty much what we were running on the S3, so I thought I would give it a go on this car, boost reference from the inlet manifold using the Forge Boost tap, and fit the DV to the standard throttle body hose and silicone, then just made up and adapter to run the recirculation pipe..

First impressions are that this holds boost great, and the DV response is instant! So all good!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0532.jpg&hash=6fe750b8a3843c5f3ceaaf6f6510357e4f36c153)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0522.jpg&hash=5d47fd891c124a76e5be6365bf8e6783a66290d6)

Thats about it for now, but got lots more planned for the next couple of weeks!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Bobby on December 03, 2009, 01:15:30 pm
Which do you prefer as a overall then? Since you've driven both.....  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 03, 2009, 01:17:59 pm
Which do you prefer as a overall then? Since you've driven both.....  :driver:

Its very hard to say, the S3 (as it was when I sold it) was incredible and took it all its in stride, just quick, no drama etc etc..

The ED30 feels more alive for sure, and moves around, less weight etc etc.. So the ED30 with big power is going to be more fun I think..

The finish on the S3 is WAY better than the ED30.. Hmm.. I'd like both really lol..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 03, 2009, 01:26:54 pm
I love the Vwr race mounts I will never go back to stock again  :evilgrin: the noise through the seat is awesome
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 03, 2009, 02:45:00 pm
Winners wear golf - fact. I'm really pleased you've brought this back from retirement, there's so much that can be done and proven.

I may or may not have a set of Recaro PPs line up - I feel I owe it to the car..... :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 03, 2009, 04:06:34 pm
Winners wear golf - fact. I'm really pleased you've brought this back from retirement, there's so much that can be done and proven.

I may or may not have a set of Recaro PPs line up - I feel I owe it to the car..... :wink:

Its true lol.. Yeah there is huge potential in this car for sure! Its already a very fast car, so once the weight is out its going to be fantastic! Then with a big turbo, well.. Its just going to be mental!!

Lovely seats, would highly recommend them.. Fit perfectly and are super comfy!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 03, 2009, 09:20:40 pm

Jonny, are using the Forge PCV kit as it would be normally? Just trying to follow it in the pics, does a bit go to the plastic manifold?
Getting the kit over christmas   :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 03, 2009, 10:37:01 pm

Jonny, are using the Forge PCV kit as it would be normally? Just trying to follow it in the pics, does a bit go to the plastic manifold?
Getting the kit over christmas   :smiley:

Yeah, you run a block off plate, and then the two lines recirculate through the can.. The inlet manifold is blocked off and kept separate from the crank case and associated oil and s*it..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 04, 2009, 05:51:37 am

Jonny, are using the Forge PCV kit as it would be normally? Just trying to follow it in the pics, does a bit go to the plastic manifold?
Getting the kit over christmas   :smiley:

Yeah, you run a block off plate, and then the two lines recirculate through the can.. The inlet manifold is blocked off and kept separate from the crank case and associated oil and s*it..
:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 04, 2009, 12:25:21 pm
Ahem - may be of use?

Linky (http://www.gepfeffert.com/neu/index.php?site=onlineshop/index&page=artikel_anzeigen&kat=2&id=17)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on December 04, 2009, 01:36:23 pm
Looks good so far dude, one question though....What clutch pack upgrade are you going with as I thought that the jury was still out on the clutch packs?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 04, 2009, 01:54:59 pm
Ahem - may be of use?

Linky (http://www.gepfeffert.com/neu/index.php?site=onlineshop/index&page=artikel_anzeigen&kat=2&id=17)

Looks good, but plenty of money.. Think ill be able to get enough on the stock arches actually.. Ill see once I get the wheels/tyres on the car..

Looks good so far dude, one question though....What clutch pack upgrade are you going with as I thought that the jury was still out on the clutch packs?

Well thats a bit of a long term plan really, it really depends how the DSG copes with the power to be honest.. At the moment there is only the HPA upgrade which is $3600 but once some other companies start to develop kits that price has to come down.. Its high at the mo because there is zero competition!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on December 04, 2009, 01:58:07 pm
Ahem - may be of use?

Linky (http://www.gepfeffert.com/neu/index.php?site=onlineshop/index&page=artikel_anzeigen&kat=2&id=17)

Looks good, but plenty of money.. Think ill be able to get enough on the stock arches actually.. Ill see once I get the wheels/tyres on the car..

Looks good so far dude, one question though....What clutch pack upgrade are you going with as I thought that the jury was still out on the clutch packs?

Well thats a bit of a long term plan really, it really depends how the DSG copes with the power to be honest.. At the moment there is only the HPA upgrade which is $3600 but once some other companies start to develop kits that price has to come down.. Its high at the mo because there is zero competition!

Word, guessing as long as the map is wrote to bring the torque in over the rev range as appose to one big lump they should be alright... to a degree  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 04, 2009, 02:00:08 pm
Ahem - may be of use?

Linky (http://www.gepfeffert.com/neu/index.php?site=onlineshop/index&page=artikel_anzeigen&kat=2&id=17)

Looks good, but plenty of money.. Think ill be able to get enough on the stock arches actually.. Ill see once I get the wheels/tyres on the car..

Looks good so far dude, one question though....What clutch pack upgrade are you going with as I thought that the jury was still out on the clutch packs?

Well thats a bit of a long term plan really, it really depends how the DSG copes with the power to be honest.. At the moment there is only the HPA upgrade which is $3600 but once some other companies start to develop kits that price has to come down.. Its high at the mo because there is zero competition!

Word, guessing as long as the map is wrote to bring the torque in over the rev range as appose to one big lump they should be alright... to a degree  :signLOL:

Thats the plan for sure, but to be fair, the GT30 turbo wont make any more than a K04 (torque wise) below about 4500 anyways so its more progressive inherently..

All the gains are 5k and above.. Thats why the engine will be built to rev to 8500rpm+
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RobH on December 04, 2009, 05:18:24 pm
Jonny, with the lower subframe mount did you fit an arm linkage thingy as looking at the other tuners ie VF and BSH they all change that part but vwracing obviously dont feel the need to do so.

Just wondering as im getting the solid Mount fitted tomorrow.

Edit - Know the answer now.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 08, 2009, 08:18:25 pm
Jonny, with the lower subframe mount did you fit an arm linkage thingy as looking at the other tuners ie VF and BSH they all change that part but vwracing obviously dont feel the need to do so.

Just wondering as im getting the solid Mount fitted tomorrow.

Edit - Know the answer now.

I used the stock one for now, but I have a BSH lower mount on the way! That will be on pretty soon..

Little bit of news anyways..

The turbo kit is now ordered for the car, so a little change on plan on running the car K04 for a while etc etc.. Im far too impatient, and I miss the big turbo badly!!

I have some pretty crazy things planned this time, all of which will become very apparent when the car is built, but, its going to be mental! I can't wait!!

I have specced the turbo too.. Its being built by Owen Developments, and couldn't be further from an off the shelf Garrett unit!! The spec is as follows..

* GT3076R frame
* Billet compressor wheel
* Metal bearing cages
* WRC bearings
* Upgraded internal diffusors
* Tial .82 AR v-band exhaust housing
* Zircotec ceramic coated exhaust housing

Im planning to run 1.65 bar / 24psi boost to start with, which should give a nice solid power and torque curve.. I can't wait to see how the new billet compressor wheel works along with the ceramic coated exhaust housing its going to be fantastic, early spool and great top end power and all in an overall smaller package than the off the shelf 3076R unit!

All being well the parts should be with me next week, and the car be up and running before Christmas!!!

Ill get some pics etc up showing all the parts when they come through!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on December 08, 2009, 08:20:31 pm
 :party: :party: :party: HAPPY CHRISTMAS everyone  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on December 08, 2009, 08:30:11 pm
 :congrats:  :notworthy:
Truly awesome Jonny.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on December 08, 2009, 08:40:22 pm
Ding Dong Merrily on High

Cant wait to see this strapped on, whats the potential output with the other mods you have planned mate?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: G4V VW on December 08, 2009, 08:45:46 pm
Looking forward to this..  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 08, 2009, 09:23:37 pm
well JC i hope ur DSG doesn't do this when u go for the first launch post GT30!

 Drag Racer and exploding clutch! (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=22c_1259873323)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on December 08, 2009, 10:58:57 pm
I like.....a lot :jumping:

Have you ordered the HPA clutchpack?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 09, 2009, 12:24:53 am
Ding Dong Merrily on High

Cant wait to see this strapped on, whats the potential output with the other mods you have planned mate?

Haha.. Well first of all ill be running the engine on stock internals, so around 425hp.. But the turbo has the potential to support over 600 no problem, probably more when running big boost (2.5 bar etc) but for that I need to complete the engine build, DSG clutch packs and fit a low pressure fueling solution, that, at the moment, isn't readily available..

Its all on the way though.. And its not exactly going to be slow with 425hp DSG and 1000KG! lol..

well JC i hope ur DSG doesn't do this when u go for the first launch post GT30!

 Drag Racer and exploding clutch! (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=22c_1259873323)

Erm yeah.. Me too haha..

I like.....a lot :jumping:

Have you ordered the HPA clutchpack?

When I go for big power I will do something.. To be honest though, there are guys out there running big power (Audi TT in Mexico with 500WHP) on stock DSG, with zero problems.. I think with the correct mapping and regular maintenance the DSG is a mega system..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on December 09, 2009, 12:00:57 pm
At least you can order the stock clutch packs from VW easily enough :happy2:

I've been looking at the internals of the DSG box on my car and it does look pretty substantial. Fingers crossed it all goes back together okay.....for both of us :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on December 09, 2009, 06:52:58 pm
Wow Jonny, this car is going to be phenominal!  Looking forward to the outcome
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 09, 2009, 07:00:44 pm
At least you can order the stock clutch packs from VW easily enough :happy2:

I've been looking at the internals of the DSG box on my car and it does look pretty substantial. Fingers crossed it all goes back together okay.....for both of us :laugh:

£500 for the 'repair' kit so we'll see how it goes, and throw a set of OEM clutches in if need be first time round..

It could well be that running big power, the clutches will only last 5k miles.. If thats the case (which I really genuinely doubt) then ill just do that.. Still cheaper than the options out there at the moment..

For reference, the ED30 has done 34k miles now, not one single problem with the DSG.. And if anything, a highly tuned K04 car is going to hurt the DSG more than a GT30 turbo would running 150hp more, simply because of the way the power and more importantly, torque, is brought in..

Im very confident it will be fine..

Wow Jonny, this car is going to be phenominal!  Looking forward to the outcome

Thanks mate.. Yep, me too! Not long to wait now..

Manifold and parts etc are shipping this week from BSH, and the turbo is being made at Owens now..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 09, 2009, 07:28:46 pm
Just a little update on how the car is running currently.. As I have said, im running Revo Stage 2+ with all of the bolt on's..

Did some logs on the car tonight..

OEM cooler with Forge Twintercooler and OEM Air conditioning system removed..

9 degrees C ambient temps.. The peak temp we saw was 13 degrees C after being sat parked up for a couple of mins, and most of the time it was pinned at 10 degrees C.. Peak whilst on throttle was 11 degrees C..

Pretty impressive if you ask me!!

Removing the OEM AC radiator makes a big difference to air flow obviously.. Both to the Intercooler and radiator, as peak coolant temperature never got over 82 degrees C all the time we were logging

Also, running B9 T6 F9 there was zero movement on the cylinder correction.. Again probably due to the temp the engine is running at.. If I had wanted to im sure we could have gone up on the timing setting and gained some performance..

All in all, Forge Twintercooler works incredibly well, and removing the Ac system helps too..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 09, 2009, 07:41:31 pm
u dont run a normal stage 2+ software do u jonny as yours is a custom revo map  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 09, 2009, 08:03:38 pm
u dont run a normal stage 2+ software do u jonny as yours is a custom revo map  :smiley:

I run more boost than the normal S2+ file yeah, but if anything that would just create more heat so the results are even more impressive if you look at it like that..

Thats it though, the knock control is all standard S2+..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 09, 2009, 09:11:40 pm
u dont run a normal stage 2+ software do u jonny as yours is a custom revo map  :smiley:

I run more boost than the normal S2+ file yeah, but if anything that would just create more heat so the results are even more impressive if you look at it like that..

Thats it though, the knock control is all standard S2+..

sorry mate thats what i was trying to get at  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 09, 2009, 11:06:15 pm
sorry mate thats what i was trying to get at  :smiley:

Yep.. So anyways, all good.. I was pleasantly surprised with the results anyways!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 10, 2009, 05:53:24 pm
New wheels on order..

New style Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.3 (literally only just became available this week)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fprorace13.jpg&hash=533a1d72674f23b5b21abc0946e21282bae463a1)

Only pic I have, I really like the look..

Specs are 18x8.5 / ET50 / 5X112

I could have gone lower on the offset but im going to fit 255 width tyres on them, so I want to have a high offset to start with, and then just use 1 or 2mm spacers to shim out the wheel from the struts front and rear to get the fitment perfect to give me the best chance of being able to fit the larger tyres in the stock arches with minimal work..

There going to be finished in Satin black, and should look great! Only bad thing about it is that I now have 3 weeks to wait!  :sad1:

Should be worth it though! Looking forward to having some traction!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on December 10, 2009, 06:28:19 pm
They look stunning, what are you wrapping them in? R888's?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 10, 2009, 06:33:31 pm
They look stunning, what are you wrapping them in? R888's?

Either a Toyo or Yokohama track tyre.. Possibly something else.. I find the Toyo's too soft in construction, but straight line grip is good, not great though!

Ill have a think.. Either way the size will be 255/40/18  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on December 10, 2009, 06:35:37 pm
They look great Jonny, what are they per corner - about 9.8kg? Where have you sourced them from as the only references I'm seeing to them that have pricing info are on EBay at £785.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 10, 2009, 06:38:05 pm
straight line grip with R888s on a 255 wide ture not enough :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 10, 2009, 06:42:21 pm
They look great Jonny, what are they per corner - about 9.8kg? Where have you sourced them from as the only references I'm seeing to them that have pricing info are on EBay at £785.

I got them through a personal contact at Dynamics.. Yeah about that, a little more than the 1.2 as they are a touch wider in this fitment..

straight line grip with R888s on a 255 wide ture not enough :surprised: :surprised:

Bare in mind what power the car is going to be running, I need to give myself the best chance of getting it right first time  :happy2: I think they will be ok..

With the 235 R888's the traction was good, I struggled to spin in 1st gear on a decent surface, but that was with 150hp less than im looking at running now..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gazbutS3 on December 10, 2009, 08:14:09 pm
I really like the look of them Jonny, more angular than the 1.2's :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 10, 2009, 11:50:30 pm
Ahh, I saw them in the new Tweeks catalogue - very nice, I think the lack of text on the rim is an improvement.

I thought you'd found a set of these, Speedline Marmoras. Brandspankingnew!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedlinecorse.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fspeedline%2Fmarmora_preview.jpg&hash=a92f9364cb575c02b91b0909da9f85c0213d97ab)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 10, 2009, 11:52:16 pm
Ahh, I saw them in the new Tweeks catalogue - very nice, I think the lack of text on the rim is an improvement.

I thought you'd found a set of these, Speedline Marmoras. Brandspankingnew!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedlinecorse.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fspeedline%2Fmarmora_preview.jpg&hash=a92f9364cb575c02b91b0909da9f85c0213d97ab)

Yeah like the new Speedlines, but there only 18x8 so no good unfortunately.. Tasty though  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 13, 2009, 12:27:46 pm
Ahh, I saw them in the new Tweeks catalogue - very nice, I think the lack of text on the rim is an improvement.

I thought you'd found a set of these, Speedline Marmoras. Brandspankingnew!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedlinecorse.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fspeedline%2Fmarmora_preview.jpg&hash=a92f9364cb575c02b91b0909da9f85c0213d97ab)

Is there a weight comparison between these and pr 1.3s?  Prefer the speedlines personally.  Like the spokes going to the rim..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 13, 2009, 01:35:50 pm
Details are very sketchy, as it's a brand new wheel.

Turinis are roughly 400grammes lighter than a PR1.2 - so I'd expect all the Marmoras and PR1.3s in 18x8 guise to be in the same sub-9kg ballpark, which for any wheel is a decent figure TBH.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 13, 2009, 03:32:51 pm
Details are very sketchy, as it's a brand new wheel.

Turinis are roughly 400grammes lighter than a PR1.2 - so I'd expect all the Marmoras and PR1.3s in 18x8 guise to be in the same sub-9kg ballpark, which for any wheel is a decent figure TBH.

I weighed up my 1.2's and they were a little lighter than the Turini's.. hmm..

I'd expect the 1.3 (in the 8.5J size) to be a few hundred grammes heavier than the 1.2's, purely because of more material..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 13, 2009, 10:00:16 pm
Ah - it was based on a comparison with Hurdy's and both with tyres on, which I guess must have been making the difference then. I suppose we forget that all tyres aren't the same either.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 13, 2009, 10:11:55 pm
Ah - it was based on a comparison with Hurdy's and both with tyres on, which I guess must have been making the difference then. I suppose we forget that all tyres aren't the same either.

There really wasn't much in it, think almost a KG though.. Ill weigh the 1.3's before they have tyres fitted..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 14, 2009, 04:21:07 pm
hey jonny i was thinking. before you had the fastest qtr mile mk5 dsg in uk etc etc.

now your going that step further, with the power and weight loss, how about another plan.

I now the meganne R26R has the record for fastest FWD factory car but what is the record around the fastest modded FWD car around the nurburgring. is it the same??

thinkabout it.......a lightweight, well setup big turbo'd mk5 GTI running huge roadlegal track tyres, controlled by a bloke who makes his living driving around such places.

surely that could be worth a shot, and withn reach??
do ya reckon you could take that title.

not that its a chall :driver:enge...    :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 14, 2009, 06:34:26 pm
hey jonny i was thinking. before you had the fastest qtr mile mk5 dsg in uk etc etc.

now your going that step further, with the power and weight loss, how about another plan.

I now the meganne R26R has the record for fastest FWD factory car but what is the record around the fastest modded FWD car around the nurburgring. is it the same??

thinkabout it.......a lightweight, well setup big turbo'd mk5 GTI running huge roadlegal track tyres, controlled by a bloke who makes his living driving around such places.

surely that could be worth a shot, and withn reach??
do ya reckon you could take that title.

not that its a chall :driver:enge...    :wink:

Yeah good thought, I have no idea what the fastest road legal FWD car is round Nurburgring, I guess that it will be ALOT faster than the R26.R time though..

Would be good fun for sure..

Ill do a few laps round one of the circuits that BTCC visit as see how the times compare to them.. Or GT cars etc.. This car is not just going to be a 1/4 mile queen at all.. So more than up for doing a few laps on a day if a few of you guys are turning up etc..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 14, 2009, 07:04:52 pm
was that an offer for a forum instruction day, lol

fastest FWD @ the ring is what id want over fastest 1/4 mile
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 14, 2009, 07:15:21 pm
was that an offer for a forum instruction day, lol

fastest FWD @ the ring is what id want over fastest 1/4 mile

Ha well I would be there and would only want to do a few laps in mine, so yeah i'd be up for coming out with some of you guys on the day too..

Course, the ring record would be good, but very hard to prove without getting an independent mag involved or something of that sort, probs not very hard to sort out, but dont know if I can be bothered really..

1/4 mile record for fastest DSG / GTI / 2.0T FSI in the world will do for now..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 14, 2009, 07:29:31 pm
Just thought I would put up some pics of the cam follower that was removed from my car.. The follower is the original that was fitted to the car, the car has covered 34,000 miles in total with this follower, and 32,000 of which have been with an Autotech fuel pump

The car has had its oil changed every 4000 miles, and always ran on fully synthetic.. Never had an issue, with anything..

Anyways this is my follower..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0556.jpg&hash=ca2c5a72cba4da550e15808e56facc42f8d6c7bc)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0555.jpg&hash=d3f9693a3c5213504c83a519bf1b9c4956422d0c)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0557.jpg&hash=5fd368ee36314550ab5af84423e30ae3bd885c67)

Looked completely fine, only the very top layer had been touched, worth changing for peace of mind if nothing else! I have seen cam followers with half the mileage running with standard pumps in a much worse condition!!

Anyways just thought I would post up for those that believe all the BS about Autotech pumps being sh*tty, there really not.. Its just the scare mongering that was around at the time that all the companies came out with the fuel pumps seems to have stuck with the cheaper options.. Shame.. But it obviously works!

Just shows, regular oil changes, high quality oil, and generally looking after your car will make everything last!

Don't believe the BS  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jhtrophy on December 14, 2009, 08:06:53 pm
the meg time is full lap of 8 min 17, the bridge to gantry would be 30 sec faster so 7 min 50, dont know what the fastest modded fwd car around there is, but 7 min 50 for fwd would be very fast, never heard of anyone doing that in a hot hatch so would be very impresive.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 14, 2009, 09:21:39 pm
the meg time is full lap of 8 min 17, the bridge to gantry would be 30 sec faster so 7 min 50, dont know what the fastest modded fwd car around there is, but 7 min 50 for fwd would be very fast, never heard of anyone doing that in a hot hatch so would be very impresive.

It wouldn't be hard to beat that at all.. The R26.R is a quick car out the box, for what it is its good, but its seriously underpowered, and lots of the pace just comes from the tyres..

Don't get me wrong its a nice car, a mate of mine has one with Stage 2 / De-cat Ti Exhaust / Intake / Intercooler.. Quick but absolutely no comparison to the Golf in terms of pace..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 14, 2009, 09:34:10 pm
how would you rate a tuned meganne R26R with all the supporting engine mods done, as well as suspension etc in comparison to the golf. the meganne has the superior chassis as a starter?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on December 14, 2009, 09:44:06 pm
how would you rate a tuned meganne R26R with all the supporting engine mods done, as well as suspension etc in comparison to the golf. the meganne has the superior chassis as a starter?

Standard for Standard the R26.R is miles ahead.. But comparing my friends tuned R26.R to mine etc really there is a bit switch, the Golf is way faster on every type of road..

I think the Golf has a great chassis, just needs the diff / brakes / suspension etc to get it really sorted..

That is me sorted then :evilgrin:
Need to drop some more weight now too :innocent:

Any more news on the schedule for the turbo being completed Jonny?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 14, 2009, 09:49:26 pm
Any more news on the schedule for the turbo being completed Jonny?

Well its all looking good at the mo.. All the BSH parts are shipping today from the US  and are set for Wednesday delivery (I went for the super extreme double express get me my turbo now DHL shipping option)

The turbo etc has been completed at Owens and should be with me Wednesday also..

So all being well the car should be done next week.. Thats best case scenario!  :santa:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on December 14, 2009, 10:00:49 pm
Now that is fast work :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 14, 2009, 10:21:59 pm
Now that is fast work :pomppomp:

Just in time for the snow  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on December 14, 2009, 10:23:36 pm
Love the TD 1.3's. Glad to see that you're sticking with the Team Dynamics style wheels!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 14, 2009, 10:25:34 pm
Love the TD 1.3's. Glad to see that you're sticking with the Team Dynamics style wheels!

For the money I think there fantastic! Look good too.. Can't wait to see them in the flat black  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on December 15, 2009, 05:17:56 pm
Is it definite that the R26R is a full lap and not bridge to gantry?

I though that they used bridge to gantry as standard? No?

Sorry for the small threadjack Jonny :ashamed:

I'd put a substantial bet on that an ED30 400+bhp lightweight (sub 1100kg) car driven by a professional race driver can beat the R26R time!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on December 15, 2009, 05:40:34 pm
If someone can peddle a fat arsed Focus RS around in 8:26 with road tyres and 300BHP - then I don't need to see anything proved, as nice as it would be. Finding 10 seconds more than an RS with less weight, more power and a race biased set up on sticky tyres isn't that hard in theory for the hardware... that'll do.

But paying for a track day, travel etc etc to win an internet argument - who does that?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on December 15, 2009, 07:03:40 pm
... and on that note, let's move on. This has been a great build thread to date, let us all allow it to continue  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on December 15, 2009, 07:09:10 pm
Hear, hear!! Thank you Dom.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 15, 2009, 07:11:59 pm
Cheers guys..  :santa:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 15, 2009, 07:14:41 pm
...and soo the festive season of happiness and big turbo's continues!  :signLOL:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on December 16, 2009, 03:00:54 pm
Has it arrived???

 :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 03:05:33 pm
Has it arrived???

 :driver:

Waiiit a minute lol..  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 03:19:40 pm
Wellll... Merry christmas everyone!! :) (almost)

All of the bits arrived from both Owen Developments here in the UK, and BSH in the states..

First of all a BIG thanks to Lee at Owen Developments, turbo looks amazing, and can't wait to feel what differences the upgrades will make over the standard GT3076R turbo..

And also a big thanks (again) to all the guys at BSH, great service, AMAZING products and in my eyes the only way to go big turbo with the 2.0T FSI!!

So here we go..

The turbo from Owen Developments. As I have already said, this turbo is far from standard spec.. Here is a run down of what I went for, kind of ticked all the options!!  :drool:

* Garett GT3076R core
* Owen Developments polished compressor inlet diffusor
* Owen Developments conical compressor wheel nut
* Owen Developments competition spec bearing cages and bearings
* Owen Developments competition spec exhaust housing stud kit
* Owen Developments competition spec internal heatshield
* Tial Sports 0.82 A/R V-band exhaust housing

Its basically the spec of turbo that they use on the new F2 cars, with a couple of little trick bits added on top.. All of the options put together will make for an over all more, responsive, higher flowing, more reliable package..

Heres some pics, they kind of explain themselves..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05362.jpg&hash=7af8397b9d3950e0b622079cc9294395261c03e5)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05361.jpg&hash=ff006d933a48a1784aa11bd3140fcee2cefb3eb6)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05363.jpg&hash=19111f354a851fcc3219f02434cb036bb3063f2b)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05364.jpg&hash=dfdb9b5397469555d433193bb64bc70bd21ae9f6)

Again im running with the Tial Sports V-band MVS external wastegate, this time in purple, just because it looks trick as hell!! And well.. Why not!?  :wink:

Loved the way it was packaged up, cool stuff!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05365.jpg&hash=b9f218e46adea99c589ce5755fc6958bc8525bc6)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05366.jpg&hash=76c494ffe27cdca198a05e02b50b83ca81db937e)

Now for the BSH parts..

This is everything that is included in the WOA BSH Big turbo kit, apart from the boost pipe and downpipe, both of which I will fabricate from what im already running on the car at the moment..

First of all the manifold, absolute piece of art!! Ill be running it for a little while to let it bed in before ceramic coating, this way it avoids any increased chances of cracking during the break in period..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05367.jpg&hash=3fd69e0273bc00f32fa0109964b39a9d3bbadbb1)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05369.jpg&hash=0b701763506be70990c04cced92034fcb0939c2f)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05368.jpg&hash=736e86a55ed96a810dfb0b97782fc5b9bcc393bc)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05370.jpg&hash=2badc49df78dc8efd34a726b5802fbf906a67214)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05371.jpg&hash=8d6c3d326dec8637abdd9d8f0b8e6c024afe75b3)

38mm dump tube - I have got something a bit different planned for this haha..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05372.jpg&hash=9dc94258156be23be66fd7394e699bd7caf916de)

Aluminium turbo intake pipe

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05375.jpg&hash=70a955dfe38ddde237c98a5b1e44fa3b2a1de84d)

Silicone connectors and clamps..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05376.jpg&hash=8dd2da867d352cf47ca315a364b2179a0aca88d1)

Water / oil lines and connectors

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05373.jpg&hash=ecb20613bd52f0120e394dafbf9517c0cb74aa21)

And lastly, I ordered the lower mount from BSH.. Looks again to be fantastic quality, and will just finish up the mounts on my car!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05377.jpg&hash=1274ad54f465b56be00a1aa851e3081af4669379)

So thats about it.. The car goes in tomorrow for the work, and should be complete (with all going to plan) within a week.. So in time for Christmas!! A present from me, to me!!  :xmaspresent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on December 16, 2009, 03:37:21 pm
This is going to be one special car.

 :pomppomp: :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on December 16, 2009, 04:06:32 pm
That manifold is something else  :drool:.

What are the brass fittings for on the intake pipework? I thought that there was only the D.V teed off on the Ed30's?

Looks something else though dude, should be completely bonkers  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 04:09:41 pm
That manifold is something else  :drool:.

What are the brass fittings for on the intake pipework? I thought that there was only the D.V teed off on the Ed30's?

Looks something else though dude, should be completely bonkers  :driver:

Lovely isn't it!!

For the wastegate and N75.. There is one more on the Turbo outlet (boost pipe) which allows the N75 to control the wastegate etc..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 04:12:27 pm
Oh and this is what I have planned for the dump tube!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05378.jpg&hash=4d38bfa0bbf1ed81e9fa9914b0773ccaec30e58b)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05379.jpg&hash=fb0094e523887b79b96864250883979d3967ee8d)

May aswel make it 100% bonkers!!  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on December 16, 2009, 04:16:22 pm
O LORD

Cant wait to see this strapped on will be stunning!!

Great work!!  :tree:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on December 16, 2009, 04:17:17 pm
What is that?? All those bits look :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: I want  :party:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 04:19:17 pm
What is that?? All those bits look :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: I want  :party:

What is what?? ha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on December 16, 2009, 04:20:38 pm
The boost pipe thing  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 04:27:32 pm
The boost pipe thing  :ashamed:

The long pipe which is coming off the wategate in those pics is whats known as a dump tube, or screamer pipe..

The wastegate modulates how much exhaust gas can get to the turbo housing, when it sees a specified boost setting on the vacuum from the N75 it will open (a specific amount based on throttle, revs, load etc) so you have exhaust gas, pre turbo, coming out of the pipe..

Most external gate set ups run the pipe back into the downpipe, so it just comes out of the exhaust tail pipes, on the S3, I ran it open dump to the ground, on the ED30 im running it out of the bonnet.. So yeah, a bit daft but good fun, and its going to be absolutely INSANELY loud too..  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on December 16, 2009, 05:33:45 pm
Got it  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on December 16, 2009, 05:51:04 pm
All of that gear look awesome, the BSH stuff is unbelievable  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NotNormal on December 16, 2009, 05:57:57 pm
Lets hope is nothing like the turbo they fitted to the Evo 8 FQ400....laggy POS

Looks like a ncie bitta kit though, nice to see the results.

Just one thing i noticed, the inlet housing isn't ported, you'll be running into compressor surge no ?


Kudos to you for your build threads, i enjoy reading them and watching the cars evolve :drinking:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 06:18:22 pm
Lets hope is nothing like the turbo they fitted to the Evo 8 FQ400....laggy POS

Looks like a ncie bitta kit though, nice to see the results.

Just one thing i noticed, the inlet housing isn't ported, you'll be running into compressor surge no ?


Kudos to you for your build threads, i enjoy reading them and watching the cars evolve :drinking:

The FQ400 turbo is a GT3076R but the reason its laggy is all in the mapping, it was requested from Ralliart UK to help maintain the drivetrain etc.. Hence why it also had a stupid clutch in it.. Its running M800 as standard, trust me, I have been in one with an Owens sorted map on it and its a different car all together..

I had the same turbo on the S3 and I had full boost at 3800rpm, not bad when you consider its capable of making 600+ hp at 1.8bar on a 2.0L motor!!

Im running the compressor diffusor for flow, there will be no issue with surge on this motor, the turbo is more than big enough.. Its the same basic spec as what they run on the F2 cars, which use a 1.8T Audi motor, so its tried and tested..

Cheers  :happy2:

The car is going in first thing tomorrow, should all going well have all the K04 stuff off, and the new parts mocked up, then all on Friday.. Not really a huge job, made easier with the V-band parts etc..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on December 16, 2009, 07:54:18 pm
wow that looks a little bit special...  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on December 16, 2009, 09:30:21 pm
Jonny, are they doing the build in-situ or is this an engine out job?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: wigit on December 16, 2009, 10:33:25 pm
jonny know a couple of guys who work for owen in our local vw club so posted em a ling to the thread so they can keep an eye on their handy work  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NotNormal on December 16, 2009, 10:45:02 pm


The FQ400 turbo is a GT3076R but the reason its laggy is all in the mapping, it was requested from Ralliart UK to help maintain the drivetrain etc.. Hence why it also had a stupid clutch in it.. Its running M800 as standard, trust me, I have been in one with an Owens sorted map on it and its a different car all together..


I still have to disagree, driven both the std FQ400 and a remapped one, the turbo was still a laggy POS compared to say the Evo Green unbit or the hybrid std unit i ran on mine (at the same power)

But we'll have to agree to disagree i guess, not the issue now



So how come no ported inlet but a flow difuser ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 16, 2009, 11:31:46 pm
Jonny, are they doing the build in-situ or is this an engine out job?

Just in situ, because its all V-banded it makes it an easier job anyways!.. Shouldn't take too long really..

jonny know a couple of guys who work for owen in our local vw club so posted em a ling to the thread so they can keep an eye on their handy work  :happy2:

Ahh cool, thanks for that mate.. Sure they will like to keep up to date on it.. Especially when its up and running!

I still have to disagree, driven both the std FQ400 and a remapped one, the turbo was still a laggy POS compared to say the Evo Green unbit or the hybrid std unit i ran on mine (at the same power)

But we'll have to agree to disagree i guess, not the issue now

So how come no ported inlet but a flow difuser ?

Guess so, only talking from my experience but it certainly wasn't a laggy POS on my S3, and the ED30 is running higher compression, so if anything its going to be better, especially with the modifications..

Im running the flow diffuser as thats what Owens recommended based on the development work they have done with this turbo on the 1.8T F2 engines and their own Evo race car..

I had the standard off the shelf GT3076R on the S3 running the same manifold, so I will be able to feel if all the bits have made a difference or not.. Only difference in spec was slightly lower compression on the S3 and a little bit of head work..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on December 17, 2009, 08:53:20 am


The FQ400 turbo is a GT3076R but the reason its laggy is all in the mapping, it was requested from Ralliart UK to help maintain the drivetrain etc.. Hence why it also had a stupid clutch in it.. Its running M800 as standard, trust me, I have been in one with an Owens sorted map on it and its a different car all together..


I still have to disagree, driven both the std FQ400 and a remapped one, the turbo was still a laggy POS compared to say the Evo Green unbit or the hybrid std unit i ran on mine (at the same power)

But we'll have to agree to disagree i guess, not the issue now



So how come no ported inlet but a flow difuser ?

How can you disagree? He's just been running this same turbo kit on his s3... If he says it wasn't laggy like the evo then it wasn't laggyy...  :stupid:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 17, 2009, 09:37:21 am
How can you disagree? He's just been running this same turbo kit on his s3... If he says it wasn't laggy like the evo then it wasn't laggyy...  :stupid:

I think he meant more in the context of the FQ400.. But its a different turbo, and a different engine, so really, there is always going to be a difference anyways..

As I have said, the turbo on the S3 was an inferior spec to this turbo, and im running higher compression on the ED30 so its only going to improve..

Driving a big turbo car is different to a K03/4 for sure.. If you try asking to to pull from 2500rpm then it will do nothing, but who does that? Once your in the range then its crazy fast, and response was absolutely brilliant over 4k rpm..

Im not worried anyways  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on December 17, 2009, 02:34:17 pm
The boost pipe thing  :ashamed:

The long pipe which is coming off the wategate in those pics is whats known as a dump tube, or screamer pipe..

The wastegate modulates how much exhaust gas can get to the turbo housing, when it sees a specified boost setting on the vacuum from the N75 it will open (a specific amount based on throttle, revs, load etc) so you have exhaust gas, pre turbo, coming out of the pipe..

Most external gate set ups run the pipe back into the downpipe, so it just comes out of the exhaust tail pipes, on the S3, I ran it open dump to the ground, on the ED30 im running it out of the bonnet.. So yeah, a bit daft but good fun, and its going to be absolutely INSANELY loud too..  :laugh:

 :surprised: How? Where?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 17, 2009, 02:54:10 pm
He's gonna cut a hole in the bonnet and vent it upwards (making it even louder i presume) rather than aiming it to ground under the car like on the S3.

It's akin to the days when R5GTT's got soo modded, one company decided to cut a hole in the bonnet and have the atmos DV sit outside in the open, just to be different and scare the bejesus out of OAPs everywhere.

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 17, 2009, 05:15:36 pm
He's gonna cut a hole in the bonnet and vent it upwards (making it even louder i presume) rather than aiming it to ground under the car like on the S3.

It's akin to the days when R5GTT's got soo modded, one company decided to cut a hole in the bonnet and have the atmos DV sit outside in the open, just to be different and scare the bejesus out of OAPs everywhere.


Errrgh.. You just compared the ED30 to a R5GTT lol..  :sad1: Ill get my coat.. lol
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 17, 2009, 05:54:25 pm
so jonny just over a year of ownership and u still have it  :xmassmiley: if u start from page one its a good read  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NotNormal on December 17, 2009, 06:07:19 pm
How can you disagree? He's just been running this same turbo kit on his s3... If he says it wasn't laggy like the evo then it wasn't laggyy...  :stupid:

Clearly your the  :stupid: one, i'll make it clear for you :

FQ400 turbo unit = LAGGY imo
FQ400 turbo unit with better map - still laggy but better

Jonny's S3 = impressive (going on the video's and the fact it's not full mapped) or wasn't full mapped)

Jonny's ed30 = Should be good, better spec than the S3 setup and can build upon the previous experiance gained

Easier to understand ?

I think he meant more in the context of the FQ400.. But its a different turbo, and a different engine, so really, there is always going to be a difference anyways..


Exactly, as you can read between the lines, i was refering to the actual turbo unit's spec

Wasn't being negative about your project.


Out of interest, can you post a picture of the flow difuser ?

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 17, 2009, 06:21:02 pm
Out of interest, can you post a picture of the flow difuser ?

There are a couple more pics of the compressor in this little update, let me know if they will do, if not ill get a couple more pics for you tomorrow close up..

Bit of an update after some work today..

First of all, a couple more pictures of the turbo for a bit of scale..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0578.jpg&hash=50d6da428e438592e6a9dd0f7e0248d45f46d4fc)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0567.jpg&hash=3d412689cd0a3045f40ddb9f8a907ebe80eb648c)

So first job was to strip down the car ready to remove the standard turbo, so downpipe off.. Im going to adjust my custom 3" downpipe which I had made to work with the K04 turbo, so with use of a 3" v-band flange ill make it work with the new turbo..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0570.jpg&hash=54a333bec1014f355f2ad793fc3b7b0a8ffd3f76)

Without the downpipe.. (ill use this picture as a before and after once its finished)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0571.jpg&hash=15a44deebe587f9767e9fd553cf05fde0085ad4b)

Drive shaft lower boost pipe and driver side wheel arch liners etc removed to make room..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0569.jpg&hash=d1cd588ab1930cbe24b312467b9222103e5abb7a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0568.jpg&hash=02bdc0786795f89d318e68e8c1ff4cd0393be83f)

Intake off, drain the oil and water out, then pull off the stock K04 turbo and manifold..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0574.jpg&hash=00026d16186636b28572b4f063ca36ea5a8d7699)

Bit of a mess..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0575.jpg&hash=2f4b2cbde02dfc1b47b2f05eac154ce060d4cba0)

Also a comparison shot of the K04 sat next to the BSH manifold and Owen Developments GT3076R

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0577.jpg&hash=cf1c913c513086e0c86857951f48cdc80520f7c9)

So with that done we hung the BSH manifold on the head, checked for fitment of the lower boost pipe, how much work would need to be done on the downpipe and clocked the turbo for the lower boost pipe fitment..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0579.jpg&hash=dd680b2e1d95499431308f1c0efa70372f154b3b)

Not bad for 3 1/2 hours work!!

Tomorrow, injectors, bolt up the manifold and turbo to stay along with oil and water lines, make a start on the lower boost pipe and downpipe adjustments..

Going well so far!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on December 17, 2009, 06:52:11 pm
How can you disagree? He's just been running this same turbo kit on his s3... If he says it wasn't laggy like the evo then it wasn't laggyy...  :stupid:

Clearly your the  :stupid: one, i'll make it clear for you :

FQ400 turbo unit = LAGGY imo
FQ400 turbo unit with better map - still laggy but better

Jonny's S3 = impressive (going on the video's and the fact it's not full mapped) or wasn't full mapped)

Jonny's ed30 = Should be good, better spec than the S3 setup and can build upon the previous experiance gained

Easier to understand ?

I think he meant more in the context of the FQ400.. But its a different turbo, and a different engine, so really, there is always going to be a difference anyways..


Exactly, as you can read between the lines, i was refering to the actual turbo unit's spec

Wasn't being negative about your project.


Out of interest, can you post a picture of the flow difuser ?



Much easier, well done...  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on December 17, 2009, 08:36:08 pm
He's gonna cut a hole in the bonnet and vent it upwards (making it even louder i presume) rather than aiming it to ground under the car like on the S3.

It's akin to the days when R5GTT's got soo modded, one company decided to cut a hole in the bonnet and have the atmos DV sit outside in the open, just to be different and scare the bejesus out of OAPs everywhere.


Errrgh.. You just compared the ED30 to a R5GTT lol..  :sad1: Ill get my coat.. lol

Jonny - seriously? You're going to cut up your bonnet?  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 17, 2009, 09:01:28 pm
Jonny - seriously? You're going to cut up your bonnet?  :scared:

Yes, and it will look very neat, it wont be easy to spot it (unless there is a flame popping out).. I have a cunning plan!  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on December 17, 2009, 09:44:03 pm
Just hope it wont be the next big craze with the Saxo boys  :scared:



Flames from the bonnet will look sick.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 17, 2009, 11:59:56 pm
lol Was only trying to explain what u meant about dump tube thru bonnet! It'll certainly be a first jc, hope it comes out good. I would never compare a Gti to the R5GTT, that's just rude and plain wrong. Build is looking good tho.  :happy2: 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 12:21:20 am
lol Was only trying to explain what u meant about dump tube thru bonnet! It'll certainly be a first jc, hope it comes out good. I would never compare a Gti to the R5GTT, that's just rude and plain wrong. Build is looking good tho.  :happy2: 

Ha, I know what you meant mate.. Yup, should be pretty mad.. Mocked it all up today and it will be possible!!  :smiley: Going to have another dump tube made up so I can switch between them easily..

Were going to test it out the bonnet first (with the bonnet removed) first before we go cutting anything, just to check if its going to be sooo stupidly loud that I wont be able to get away with it..

Its a bit of fun, and like you say, its a bit different too  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on December 18, 2009, 11:00:20 am
lol Was only trying to explain what u meant about dump tube thru bonnet! It'll certainly be a first jc, hope it comes out good. I would never compare a Gti to the R5GTT, that's just rude and plain wrong. Build is looking good tho.  :happy2: 

Ha, I know what you meant mate.. Yup, should be pretty mad.. Mocked it all up today and it will be possible!!  :smiley: Going to have another dump tube made up so I can switch between them easily..

Were going to test it out the bonnet first (with the bonnet removed) first before we go cutting anything, just to check if its going to be sooo stupidly loud that I wont be able to get away with it..

Its a bit of fun, and like you say, its a bit different too  :grin:

I await the out come!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 18, 2009, 01:05:22 pm
yeah good idea re making 2 versions...cos i'm not sure how road legal it is with a dump tube coming out of the bonnet lol.

err will it collect water should u drive it in the rain (if its gonna be pointing straight up into the heavens??)

then again it'll be soo hot that it'll vapourise anything....haha i can see it now, your ED30 will look like a steam engine  :signLOL:

(only messing...comparing ur car to a R5GTT and now a steam engine lol)

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 01:49:35 pm
yeah good idea re making 2 versions...cos i'm not sure how road legal it is with a dump tube coming out of the bonnet lol.

err will it collect water should u drive it in the rain (if its gonna be pointing straight up into the heavens??)

then again it'll be soo hot that it'll vapourise anything....haha i can see it now, your ED30 will look like a steam engine  :signLOL:

(only messing...comparing ur car to a R5GTT and now a steam engine lol)



Haha.. The pipe will be made such that the lowest point is in the tube, and not the wastegate, then a 1.5mm drain hole for water at the bottom, aimed such that any excess exhaust gas would fire down into the floor anyways.. Not that a 1.5mm hole will really expel much gas when there is a 38mm hole about 6 inches away..

Yeah, not really sure on legality, but in theory its not an exhaust as its not open all the time, plus if it got questioned I could just ask the 'officer' to feel for any exhaust gas exiting when the car is running.. Nope, its all coming out the back.. Sure that would do the trick.. Ill just say its a snorkel for the engine incase I want to drive through a deep puddle  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 18, 2009, 01:53:15 pm
PMSL at snorkel excuse...

 :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on December 18, 2009, 01:56:04 pm
does this mean you could fit the 'flat plate on a hinge' from lorries to it, thats flips open on dump  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 01:58:16 pm
PMSL at snorkel excuse...

 :grin:

I got stopped with the dump tube on the S3 just before it went.. They only heard it, but didn't see, presumed it was my car.. How dare they!  :grin: They let me off coz they agreed it couldn't have been my car based on how it sounded when revving, it must have been a bike lol.. Phew!

does this mean you could fit the 'flat plate on a hinge' from lorries to it, thats flips open on dump  :signLOL:

Erm no!! lol.. Ok R5GTT.. Steam engine.. And now a bloody lorry!! haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 18, 2009, 02:05:39 pm
PMSL at snorkel excuse...

 :grin:

I got stopped with the dump tube on the S3 just before it went.. They only heard it, but didn't see, presumed it was my car.. How dare they!  :grin: They let me off coz they agreed it couldn't have been my car based on how it sounded when revving, it must have been a bike lol.. Phew!

does this mean you could fit the 'flat plate on a hinge' from lorries to it, thats flips open on dump  :signLOL:

Erm no!! lol.. Ok R5GTT.. Steam engine.. And now a bloody lorry!! haha..

haha this ED30....is gonna go down in history! Get it feature in MaxP mate?  :happy2:  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 02:08:35 pm
haha this ED30....is gonna go down in history! Get it feature in MaxP mate?  :happy2:  :grin:

I have 4 features lined up for the new year, 2 of which are covers  :smiley: None of them are Max Power though, sorry to disappoint lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 18, 2009, 02:11:18 pm
ok let me think...

Redline
Performance VW
(trying to think what other mod mags are out there cos i ain't bought one for ages!)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 18, 2009, 02:20:00 pm
performance vw and golf+
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on December 18, 2009, 02:27:03 pm
Razzle as this car is PORN :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on December 18, 2009, 02:43:46 pm
Readers Drives...?

...I'll get my coat  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 02:56:57 pm
Readers Drives...?

...I'll get my coat  :ashamed:

Lol.. Made me laugh  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 07:30:03 pm
Update..

So got quite a bit more done today!!

Tial v-band clamp arrived for the exhaust housing to manifold connection..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0584.jpg&hash=7025b6aecdddab2b1b2404a386d8c54cad6ec5a2)

Also the OEM RS4 injectors and fitting kit..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0585.jpg&hash=c41f46ef66dc69d6e449774437f161849ecf9154)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0588.jpg&hash=eed6b4c795e05c0905a33a942a0e724e86d959f0)

So the inlet manifold comes off for the injector fitting, quite a fiddly job! New injectors now in the head, just need to re fit the inlet manifold..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0586.jpg&hash=0ae2832042949d5046d9e954330b1a626cb22ed3)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0587.jpg&hash=8ca5653c4c22a112c61b77f9a2cadc5cbd54c31b)

Other little bits such as gaskets for oil and water lines, exhaust gasket etc arrived so we could get the turbo built up with all of the fittings and lines and hang the manifold to stay with the new gasket etc..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0592.jpg&hash=1d011e23ae352d5236084f2e4c8cecf6b3638693)

So then the turbo was clamped up to stay. The cold side clocked round again a little for the boost pipe to be made up.. All the lines were left disconnected at the moment so there is room for the boost pipe to be fabricated up..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0591.jpg&hash=dc9982ba899519efa8c7cf5c5de4ed25c7db6e61)
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The difference working on this car compared to the S3 is crazy.. Seems like there is acres of room on the Golf! Suppose there is with the lack of 4WD system etc..

Don't think there will be a huge amount of fabrication required to make the downpipe work, just a little adjustment here and there, and the lower boost pipe should again be pretty good, with there being so much room we can take a much more direct path to the intercooler compared to when we did the S3..

So just a few bit of fabrication left to do, downpipe / boost pipe and re fit the inlet manifold..

Then things like plumbing up the N75 and water lines in the engine bay, these are being routed differently for a much neater finish, should look really good!!

So yeah, coming on really well.. Only problem is this is what it looks like outside at the moment!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0583.jpg&hash=175c706ac4508a6f4aecc98602406be96bfb0f8e)

Hmm..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 18, 2009, 08:03:20 pm
you see joony the S3 would have worked there










maybe, lol
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 09:57:25 pm
you see joony the S3 would have worked there

maybe, lol

Ha, guess so.. We'll im just hoping that it clears for next week otherwise that is going to be pretty annoying!!  :sad1:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on December 18, 2009, 10:08:42 pm
Is it running the hta compresor wheel?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 10:27:43 pm
Is it running the hta compresor wheel?

Nope, standard Garrett.. But when the Garrett GTX-R billet wheel is made available in that size ill be changing, should see a nice little increase in response and flow..

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/news/race_updates/GTX_R_Turbochargers.html

Only just started but the wheel should be available early neat year  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on December 18, 2009, 10:39:18 pm
Is it running the hta compresor wheel?

Nope, standard Garrett.. But when the Garrett GTX-R billet wheel is made available in that size ill be changing, should see a nice little increase in response and flow..

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/news/race_updates/GTX_R_Turbochargers.html

Only just started but the wheel should be available early neat year  :smiley:

I may just hang on to my GT2871 for a bit now :innocent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 18, 2009, 10:47:50 pm
Is it running the hta compresor wheel?

Nope, standard Garrett.. But when the Garrett GTX-R billet wheel is made available in that size ill be changing, should see a nice little increase in response and flow..

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/news/race_updates/GTX_R_Turbochargers.html

Only just started but the wheel should be available early neat year  :smiley:

I may just hang on to my GT2871 for a bit now :innocent:

Yup, you have lots of options with the 2871.. Owens can do all sorts to it, really would make a difference, and if you can get the billet wheel on there it would be awesome! Super quick spool!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on December 19, 2009, 04:59:25 pm
I thought that, i personally wouldn't use a fp product either and was almost certain owens wouldn't warrant a garrett turbo with a fp wheel.Good news from Garrett on there version of the hta wheel , little bit big at the moment but i would go for one for mine when they become available.

I don't think there is a massive amount owens could do to the gt2871r , could port/polish,uprate bearings and fit a larger compressor cover but none of that would increase flow much. The exhaust housing could be enlarged if your not already running the .82 version but with that strange adapter and being internally gate won't help much anyway.
Should be capable of a real 380ish which is more than enough.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 19, 2009, 05:09:52 pm
I thought that, i personally wouldn't use a fp product either and was almost certain owens wouldn't warrant a garrett turbo with a fp wheel.Good news from Garrett on there version of the hta wheel , little bit big at the moment but i would go for one for mine when they become available.

I don't think there is a massive amount owens could do to the gt2871r , could port/polish,uprate bearings and fit a larger compressor cover but none of that would increase flow much. The exhaust housing could be enlarged if your not already running the .82 version but with that strange adapter and being internally gate won't help much anyway.
Should be capable of a real 380ish which is more than enough.


Yeah, to be honest I just think that the Garrett billet wheels will be superior, probably more expensive too but at the end of the day, its not cheap, so if you try and do it cheaply more often than not you get an inferior end product..

Well, again, billet wheel (they will be producing one for the 2871) ported/polished, bored wastegate, wrc bearings and cages etc etc.. Would help for sure..

Anyways, bit of a teaser pic after todays progress..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fimage.jpg&hash=3ba7d33dc56c81a526456f59cd0327b71a019593)

"The purple pedestrian pleaser" (as Andy called it) lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 19, 2009, 06:34:17 pm
Update from todays work!!

So finished up the injector install, inlet manifold is back on and bolted up!

New RS4 injectors in..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0163.jpg&hash=94534bd4258b63cd13fd1bac6d119481a8adc866)

And the inlet manifold bolted back up!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0165.jpg&hash=6b521fe4929cf3847480087514c32e93e6c571c1)

Wastegate is on the manifold, turbo is clocked into its final position, all the lines are connected and there to stay..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0167.jpg&hash=3a544fadce1d88992d2c0cc64d43bf79e078448a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0171-1.jpg&hash=49da8aba98279ae2c3918ee07d5bf9771208561d)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0174.jpg&hash=933f25fb5ee5251609f911cd8402d83f2e8f6ba6)

And the money shot!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fimage.jpg&hash=3ba7d33dc56c81a526456f59cd0327b71a019593)

Tucked up!

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All being well the car should be running Monday, we will see!! Fingers crossed :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on December 19, 2009, 07:14:08 pm
nice one jonny , been trying to get some info on the rs4 injectors ,i don't really know why  :laugh: but very little info on there capabilities suffice to say they must be at there limits with a gt3076.
I would be very interested to know your duty cycles when you get it mapped.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 19, 2009, 07:16:17 pm
you may have posted this before but will you be going for the same map as on the S3. but without the running in period as the S3 was basically rebuilt from the bottom up?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 19, 2009, 07:38:06 pm
nice one jonny , been trying to get some info on the rs4 injectors ,i don't really know why  :laugh: but very little info on there capabilities suffice to say they must be at there limits with a gt3076.
I would be very interested to know your duty cycles when you get it mapped.

Its a bit of a grey area to be honest.. There are some test results out there which came to the conclusion that the S3 injectors actually flow more than RS4's but thats just not true.. S3 headline before the AFR's get dangerous is around 400hp, the RS4's, closer to 500.. The 3076 will out flow the RS4 injectors easily..

Im sure ill be able to get some figures on duty cycles at different boost levels..

you may have posted this before but will you be going for the same map as on the S3. but without the running in period as the S3 was basically rebuilt from the bottom up?

Yup, same map.. But yeah this time I will be able to start logging and adjusting settings from the start as the engine is ready to go (upto a point of course)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 19, 2009, 07:59:39 pm
is the Tial EWG port facing downwards at the mo?

must be a bit of bit of bugger to route the dump tube back round to the bonnet side! Or am I missing something....
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on December 19, 2009, 09:49:24 pm
looking good johny, you dont hang about, bet you get special rates at the garage you use as you must be keeping them in business !!! cant wait to see a video of it going !! top thread once again  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 20, 2009, 12:58:31 am
is the Tial EWG port facing downwards at the mo?

must be a bit of bit of bugger to route the dump tube back round to the bonnet side! Or am I missing something....

To start with the dump pipe will be routed down to the floor, to have the dump pipe out the bonnet is going to require quite a few changes, new intake, fabricate a new dump tube, modify the bonnet, re route some hoses for the heater etc.. Should only take a day but ill just get it up and running first, then do it..

looking good johny, you dont hang about, bet you get special rates at the garage you use as you must be keeping them in business !!! cant wait to see a video of it going !! top thread once again  :happy2:

Ha, well I dont really have a huge amount of patience unfortunately, but Andy has been doing a great job.. Yeah, well depending on weather, I should be able to post something up early next week once its running!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 22, 2009, 01:58:11 pm
Ok, so lots more progress made..

Ill be able to get pics up later today hopefully, but the car will be finished tomorrow.. Can't wait to have a play and see how it compares to the Stage 2+ K04 turbo!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on December 22, 2009, 02:33:56 pm
 :jumpmove:

It will be frustrating trying to test it  properly in this weather... I am stuck at the minute waiting for vw assistance, what tyres are you going to be using at this time of year, not r888's??  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 22, 2009, 02:46:02 pm
:jumpmove:

It will be frustrating trying to test it  properly in this weather... I am stuck at the minute waiting for vw assistance, what tyres are you going to be using at this time of year, not r888's??  :scared:

Some of the main roads round here aren't too bad now, so fingers crossed there is no more snow tonight and we can do some meaningful logging tomorrow..

Got T1R's on at the mo, but as soon as the new wheels arrive, there going to be fitted with a set of 255/35/18 R888's yeah.. Used them all last winter in the snow etc..

I have another car too though, so I will only use the Golf when I can, and when its sensible..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on December 22, 2009, 03:13:09 pm
Cant wait!!

I have another car too though, so I will only use the Golf when I can, and when its sensible....... Your Aston? :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 22, 2009, 03:16:26 pm
Unfortunately not..  :wink: A current shape 1.2 Corsa .. Nice little car though  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on December 22, 2009, 03:18:19 pm
Unfortunately not..  :wink: A current shape 1.2 Corsa .. Nice little car though  :smiley:

Not standard surely? Or not for long!! :xmassmiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 22, 2009, 03:20:09 pm
Not standard surely? Or not for long!! :xmassmiley:

100% standard.. I keep being tempted but there's really no point..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Blade on December 22, 2009, 04:10:08 pm
You must have been working Andy hard Jonny. Are you going to give him Xmas off :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 22, 2009, 04:13:32 pm
You must have been working Andy hard Jonny. Are you going to give him Xmas off :signLOL:

He's a star!!!.. Hmm, I have ran out of money, so yes..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on December 22, 2009, 07:46:22 pm
Any pics yet?  (and I dont mean the Corsa....)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 23, 2009, 07:27:28 pm
Any pics yet?  (and I dont mean the Corsa....)

Not yet, tomorrow  :smiley:

- - - - -

OH MY GOD.. Its awesome..

First of all the new turbo is incredible, even though I have the larger .82 A/R exhaust housing, which really should delay spool up by 2-300rpm.. In fact im seeing spool a full 700RPM sooner than on the S3 with comparable settings on the Revo file..

This is probably a little bit down to the compression ratio being a touch higher on the ED30.. 9.8:1 compared to 8.5:1 of the S3, but I put most of it down to the work that Owen Developments have done to the standard Garrett GT3076R.. For example, Were seeing 1 bar of boost at 3450rpm and it starts to build boost from 2300rpm.. Simply amazing, and WAY WAY better than I could have ever hoped for!

Andy again has done an incredible job, the install is amazingly neat, and unless you knew what you were looking for, in the engine bay, it looks almost no different to before with the OEM K04 turbo installed.. Once Im running a heatshield above the manifold, you really wont be able to tell.. (until you see it run possibly)

As for performance, were running 1.2 bar or 17.5psi max at the moment which is really very low for this size of turbo, and a full 0.5 bar lower than we ran the S3..

Even at this boost the car is WAY faster than my fully sorted K04 ED30.. Were going to run it like this for the next couple of weeks to let everything settle down, then raise the boost along with a load of other bits and bobs in preparation for Santa Pod on the 17th Jan, which will be the cars first 1/4 mile day with the new turbo set up! Weather permitting, Im expecting some seriously impressive times based on this first drive!!

Ill be able to get some pics and hopefully a couple of videos up tomorrow once there is some light.. But for now, im off for a little drive!!

So all good, again a massive thanks to all involved, Andy @ ACR, Phil and the guys at BSH, Forge Motorsport and all the guys @ Revo!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on December 23, 2009, 07:51:45 pm
Sounds awesome mate, what intake are you running?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 23, 2009, 07:54:44 pm
twin take iirc
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 23, 2009, 08:32:21 pm
Sounds awesome mate, what intake are you running?

Yup Forge Motorsports Twintake, no adjustment even required for the fitting.. Awesome!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on December 23, 2009, 11:31:43 pm
It doesn't matter what you do Jonny, you'll not tempt me to go for a big turbo.............................maybe :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on December 24, 2009, 08:22:25 am
sounds fantastic. cant wait to see some vids
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 24, 2009, 12:28:46 pm
It doesn't matter what you do Jonny, you'll not tempt me to go for a big turbo.............................maybe :signLOL:

Your missing out, thats all im saying..  :grin:

Update..

So after first impressions I was able to have a few hours in the car last night, putting some miles on the new set-up, listening for any strange noises, and generally just bedding it in a little.. All seems great!

First of all, just wanted to do this video to prove, with the right map (REVO) RS4 injectors, cold start is not an issue..

First start this morning, stone cold, had not been ran for 12 or so hours, with a 1.5 degrees C ambient temperature..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fth_IMG_0624.jpg&hash=c647d612011a6cf4bf82a3e7f37f97454ae5bf9a) (http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/jonnnny28/?action=view&current=IMG_0624.flv)

No problems, cranks and fires no different to how it did on the K04 with stock injectors..

So after having some more time with the car I can confirm that its very fast of course, but at the same time extremely driveable, quiet when driving off boost, pulls smoothly from 1000rpm with NO problems what so ever, super responsive, and

Again, the thing that has really amazed me about this set up is just how responsive the engine is from such low revs! Ok, for sure it has more lag than the K04, but seriously not 'that' much more.. But once your at 5k revs the difference between the two is night and day! Just amazing..

In terms of performance.. (test completed on private driveway)

I think that 40 - 100 in 4.2 seconds is pretty impressive, considering that its only running 17psi and it was wet!!

Once its dry, or at least, not snowing, ill get some videos to prove this, its seriously, seriously fast!!

I can only imagine in the dry, with 255 R888's, running 24psi and with another 200kg out how fast its going to be.. I guess we will all find out on the 17th Jan!!

On a DSG note, all is perfectly fine, the changes are still lightning fast, solid, no slip, no hesitations, all perfect.. And boost before, during and after a flat out gear change is almost completely consistent! Big turbo 2.0T FSI and DSG is the perfect combination!!

Anyways now for some pictures now there is some light!! Love the install..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0627.jpg&hash=8812ef29495bdb51a2728a16cb6b83f3451a0d30)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0625.jpg&hash=092e2876add3b63714906353d805b876df3b9fc4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0633.jpg&hash=56df704b446737dfabf8cb18c3394a35a953f7e5)

Im really pleased with the way it looks, as I had said yesterday the engine bay looks really nice, not like a highly tuned car, and there will be more to come in terms of making it look even more OEM which is the way I want the car to look throughout..

When you look a little closer..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0626.jpg&hash=6eff2196084f1d38e05f06f0d47927c866927043)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0629.jpg&hash=2647c6ff3834d6cc1c8d597e2a9fe963e10dbe36)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0630.jpg&hash=ae1321b6eb089fb9b0c291d540c61281fdf501fa)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0631.jpg&hash=efd43060d49237ee32ed21ceca6b074c02de2aad)

The only problem at the moment is this!!!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0623.jpg&hash=a1a5eefea216c1b6bb5030cf57334754aeeb8ed2)

How annoying!!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on December 24, 2009, 12:50:39 pm
great stuff jonny.. i bet your pretty pissed its snowing though  :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 24, 2009, 03:53:03 pm

Probably sick of hearing it but, Awesome stuff  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DubwayDan on December 24, 2009, 04:13:26 pm
is the Tial EWG port facing downwards at the mo?

must be a bit of bit of bugger to route the dump tube back round to the bonnet side! Or am I missing something....

To start with the dump pipe will be routed down to the floor, to have the dump pipe out the bonnet is going to require quite a few changes, new intake, fabricate a new dump tube, modify the bonnet, re route some hoses for the heater etc.. Should only take a day but ill just get it up and running first, then do it..
[quote/]
 

:confused: dump tube out the bonnet? never seen that before.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: plush-automotive on December 24, 2009, 04:30:44 pm
looks awesome jonny this car is going to be totally wild once finished,if these things are ever finished ha ha :happy2: top work :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NB07 on December 24, 2009, 05:57:12 pm
an artists work is never done  :signLOL:

loooking good jonny, cant wait to see it at the pod  :happy2:

have a good crimbo  :xmaspresent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 24, 2009, 06:02:41 pm
@ NEWEY..

Yeah, but actually the roads seem to have improved a huge amount today, and got another chance for a little drive earlier.. Shocked me again just how quick it is.. I know it seems like im just saying it, but seriously, its quick! lol..

@ Mike..

Thanks mate, im loving the work that Andy has done, so neat, and still, lots more to come in terms of tidying things up, and finishing all the little bits and bobs up..  :smiley:

@ DubwayDan..

And thats the reason I want to do it..  :laugh: No one wants to be a sheep..  :wink:

@ Luke..

Thanks! Yep, im seriously looking forward to running this with the weight out and with increased boost and timing, its going to fly!!  :drool:

@ NB07..

Ha, cheers! Yep, I suppose its always going to be a work in progress.. I do have a pretty specific plan this time though, so once thats all done ill see what else I have thought up along the way!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on December 24, 2009, 08:22:31 pm
Have you seen the mk2 TT that is running the work of art kit? Slightly different turbo though.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 24, 2009, 08:29:22 pm
Have you seen the mk2 TT that is running the work of art kit? Slightly different turbo though.

Yup, guy from Mexico.. Hes running a 3082R.. Looking forward to seeing what he runs too..

Although an 82mm compressor wheel with a .63 A/R exhaust housing seems an odd choice to me..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Toast on December 24, 2009, 08:39:51 pm
What kinda of bhp is he runing jonny?? :driver:   Any links to that? :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 24, 2009, 08:50:15 pm
What kinda of bhp is he runing jonny?? :driver:   Any links to that? :party:

He dyno'd it at 503WHP (580hp) running 24psi..

Can't say I believe that it would make that power at that boost if im honest, based on the fact that I was running 24psi on my S3 and there was no way it was running that much power.. RS4 injectors plus water meth can make 500WHP, its been proven on a Revo tuned car in the states, but they were running over 2.0bar of boost..

I say maybes 500HP but not WHP..

Another reason why im really not fussed about dyno testing my car, I would rather let the times speak for themselves at a 1/4 mile event, no arguing with those..  :wink:

Build thread is on a couple of sites..

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320648
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on December 24, 2009, 09:02:06 pm
Bloody hell, 40 to 100 in just over four seconds, that is ridiculously quick. Congrats, looks awesome v
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: monte on December 24, 2009, 09:55:32 pm
WOW Jonny, I've finally got to the end of your thread  :congrats: You really take your motors seriously. Turbo looks great! and that manifold  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Gonna have to be something really special next, in order to top the S3 and the ED30. What about the New R20???


Did you get the Pro Race 1.3's yet. They look just great with the squarer spokes  :notworthy: I wouldn't mind em myself.

Really great Read Jonny. Threads like this are great for the forum.  :santa:

 
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on December 25, 2009, 11:49:59 pm
WOW Jonny, I've finally got to the end of your thread  :congrats: You really take your motors seriously. Turbo looks great! and that manifold  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Gonna have to be something really special next, in order to top the S3 and the ED30. What about the New R20???


Did you get the Pro Race 1.3's yet. They look just great with the squarer spokes  :notworthy: I wouldn't mind em myself.

Really great Read Jonny. Threads like this are great for the forum.  :santa:

 

How much do the 1.3's weigh  :ashamed:


Won't the R20 be pretty much identical to the S3 aswel? Twin turbo R8 is next  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 12:05:27 am
WOW Jonny, I've finally got to the end of your thread  :congrats: You really take your motors seriously. Turbo looks great! and that manifold  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Gonna have to be something really special next, in order to top the S3 and the ED30. What about the New R20???

Did you get the Pro Race 1.3's yet. They look just great with the squarer spokes  :notworthy: I wouldn't mind em myself.

Really great Read Jonny. Threads like this are great for the forum.  :santa:

Cheers! Yeah, enjoy reading threads like this myself so don't mind keeping track of the progress, I looked back through it the other day actually, end up forgetting some of the bits that have happened!

The 1.3s are in production, im really hoping that ill have them in time for Santa Pod, otherwise its going to be pretty annoying really.. As they should be worth a couple of tenths really..

Plan for next car is a twin turbo R8.. I have been in contact with Heffners in the US and there coming back to me with some more info.. To be honest though, that will be a long term project, as its a bit of a jump in budget as im sure you can imagine..  :laugh:

How much do the 1.3's weigh  :ashamed:

Won't the R20 be pretty much identical to the S3 aswel? Twin turbo R8 is next  :evilgrin:

1.3's are a touch heavier than the 1.2 (due to the extra 1/2 inch of width) about a kg per wheel.. So just under 10kg per piece..

Yeah, Golf R is an S3 in a Golf body, so I wouldn't really consider it to be honest.. As it would be no different to the S3.. Apart from exterior appearance that is..

Have I mentioned the R8 plans? Didn't think I had lol.. Anyways, yeah, good guess haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 26, 2009, 12:12:05 am
how come you have always kept Vag jonny instead of going jap such as evos etc where there is a huge amount of kit available for huge power. is  it as there are lots about already running massive power so not really a challenge?

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 12:22:55 am
how come you have always kept Vag jonny instead of going jap such as evos etc where there is a huge amount of kit available for huge power. is  it as there are lots about already running massive power so not really a challenge?

No, its more due to the fact that Evo's / Subarus / Skylines (posh Evo) to me, all look chav as hell, and its kind of expected of them to be tuned up and driven by the stereotype.. Well, you know what im getting at..  :smiley:

I know what you mean though, im sure that with the same money I would be able to make a faster car going Jap in the first place, but I just can't get my head around driving about in one of those 3 cars.. Plus, to a certain degree tuning a current VAG car is more of a challenge for sure, which I find more entertaining..

I had a 2.3 Toda Supercharged Civic Type R and as good as it was to drive in all aspects, walking up to it in a car park made me cringe.. I dont know exactly why, im just being honest..  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 26, 2009, 12:29:13 am
Maybe it was that god awefull interior lol red and black leather nice  :surprised:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on December 26, 2009, 12:30:42 am
what about the next level, twin engined mk5 or S3
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 12:39:08 am
Maybe it was that god awefull interior lol red and black leather nice  :surprised:

Says the man with tartan seats! lol..  :wink: Once I was in it I couldn't see the outside and I felt a lot more happy..  :smiley:

what about the next level, twin engined mk5 or S3

Taking into account the complexity of making it work well, weight added vs. power gained.. Its probably not worth doing really.. One engine is just about right I think  :wink:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 26, 2009, 12:41:54 am
Tartan seats is fine mate my family are from Scotland  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 12:42:51 am
Tartan seats is fine mate my family are from Scotland  :grin:

 :booty:  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on December 26, 2009, 12:44:59 am
Y not build a crazy golf r32 twin turbo over 700bhp should be crazy fast
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 12:52:52 am
Y not build a crazy golf r32 twin turbo over 700bhp should be crazy fast

Would be fun yeah.. If I can convince the guys at BSH to do a 24V manifold I may consider it..

Only issue is potentially the gearbox.. I would much prefer to run DSG but I really think there would be issues without some beefier clutch packs.. Just need to wait and see what happens with the transverse DSG box development.. I think SSP are looking at something currently actually..

With all that said, the ED30 is going to be SERIOUSLY fast when its done.. I hope the weather is good on the 17th so I can show what I mean when I say its fast..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Bobby on December 26, 2009, 02:57:55 am
So far sweet Jonny. And any company that do uprated clutch kits for the DSG please?

I can only find one company in the States. Anyone else out there?

Thanks.

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 04:46:13 pm
Not at the moment, there is another company testing.. I really don't know much about the HPA upgrade.. Don't think many have gone for it to be honest.. Mine seems 100% fine at the moment, so I'll have to see how it is once we turn it all up.. Hopefully all good!

I would prefer to run standard DSG internals if I can get away with it, much cheaper to replace in the event of a problem plus, I already have them!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Bobby on December 26, 2009, 06:18:04 pm
Thanks mate.

I think i'll stick with the standard set up for now. I'll leave all the research and testing to you!!... :laugh:

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 06:59:52 pm
Thanks mate.

I think i'll stick with the standard set up for now. I'll leave all the research and testing to you!!... :laugh:

 :happy2:

Yeah kind of used to that lol..  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on December 26, 2009, 07:15:15 pm
JC...surely you'd just ring up Ricardo or someone and tell them to build u a Veyron spec DSG gear box  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 26, 2009, 07:55:06 pm
JC...surely you'd just ring up Ricardo or someone and tell them to build u a Veyron spec DSG gear box  :wink:

Erm yeah.. Best case scenario lol..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on December 27, 2009, 11:18:27 am
....

Shaping up really well  :notworthy:.

One thing I noticed is no heatshield between that beautifully sculptured manifold and the gold wrapped Twintake. Do you feel that the gold wrapping is sufficient in that area?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Bobby on December 27, 2009, 02:19:01 pm
Yeah kind of used to that lol..  :wink:

 :signLOL:

 :notworthy:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Bobby on December 27, 2009, 02:22:07 pm
Best off leaving the 'testing' to the man in the know!!

Where are the updates man, x-mas is now over...!!!.. :xmaspresent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 27, 2009, 04:07:37 pm
....

Shaping up really well  :notworthy:.

One thing I noticed is no heatshield between that beautifully sculptured manifold and the gold wrapped Twintake. Do you feel that the gold wrapping is sufficient in that area?

Thanks Robin.. Yeah im very pleased with the car already, and its only going to get better from now on..

Im changing things around a fair bit under the bonnet, intake and dump tube wise pretty soon so I wont need a heatshield as such for the intake.. All will become clear  :smiley:

Best off leaving the 'testing' to the man in the know!!

Where are the updates man, x-mas is now over...!!!.. :xmaspresent:

Haha.. Well next week at some point the car is going in for a full check over now its had some miles put on it, and making plans for what we can do in time for Santa Pod really.. There is a HUGE list and not all of it will be done in time, but ill start cracking on now..

Probably another couple of months work before its running to its full potential really..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on December 27, 2009, 06:09:31 pm

Have I mentioned the R8 plans? Didn't think I had lol.. Anyways, yeah, good guess haha..


Nope just a wild guess, get it done  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on December 28, 2009, 11:20:27 am
Looking like it's all coming together mate and can't wait to see it on the 17th (if I can get there now that my mate has let me down  :sad1:)



(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fth_IMG_0624.jpg&hash=c647d612011a6cf4bf82a3e7f37f97454ae5bf9a) (http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/jonnnny28/?action=view&current=IMG_0624.flv)


I would like to bet that you don't get 110 miles out of that amount of fuel though...  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 28, 2009, 11:41:00 am
I would like to bet that you don't get 110 miles out of that amount of fuel though...  :signLOL:

It's actualy pretty impressive on fuel.. I have done a full tank over the last couple of days and got 345 miles, with probably another 20 or so to go if I pushed it.. That's 'mixed' driving lol..

So what's that.. Just over 26MPG.. Not that it bothers me at all, just shows it's not terrible anyways.. I think on a run over 32MPG no worries..!

Don't have a spare seat otherwise I could have got you mate, make sure you get yourself there  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on December 28, 2009, 05:19:51 pm
Do you know how much your turbo flows in kg/s at all? also any idea at what BHP the standard injectors should be swapped out for the rs4 ones?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on December 28, 2009, 07:50:56 pm
Do you know how much your turbo flows in kg/s at all? also any idea at what BHP the standard injectors should be swapped out for the rs4 ones?

All of the compressor maps are available on the Garrett site for the off the shelf turbos, I have no idea about my turbo, but I know there is a big improvement in all areas over the last 3076 with the .63 A/R exhaust housing that I was using..

Anything bigger than a K04 and you should go to a larger injector.. What HP..? I would say that the S3 injectors are good for 'around' 400hp but I don't really see the point in making such a small step over a fully sorted K04 set up..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on January 02, 2010, 08:25:02 am
Any updates on this yet Jonny, like some vid would be nice, or ate you still snow covered where you live??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: rubber toe on January 02, 2010, 09:54:22 am
love this car , keep up the good work mate  :happy2:

Looking forward to hearing the results from the pod  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2010, 04:13:36 pm
Any updates on this yet Jonny, like some vid would be nice, or ate you still snow covered where you live??

Little bit of an update..  :smiley:

Well done a couple more bits, the car went back into ACR for a check over after the first 1000 miles had been covered, seals, gaskets, check everything is dry, nothing is getting hot etc etc.. Oil and filter, just general check up really.. All was perfect, so we went up a little on the boost, from 17.5 psi to 22 psi (which is as much as I would like to run on stock motor) and its CRAZY fast now.. Seriously, very impressive.. Big turbo with the DSG is amazing, I seriously love this car now!!

Any doubters out there that don't believe there is much on an improvement to be had over a K04 turbo, well.. Think again!! Its night and day, and mine wasn't slow as it was!

I think so long as its dry, 11's no problems at Santa Pod, first run, no worries!!  :P

Only problem at the moment is that the roads are covered with snow AGAIN round here, just as it was looking like they were about to dry up!.. Still not even had the car on a dry piece of road since the turbo has been done  :scared: Only really been able to use the full potential from 4th gear up to now in almost freezing wet roads..

Still, with the progressive throttle map, and superb response of this turbo, once your over 3500rpm it feels almost N/A in power delivery, like a big V8 rather than a forced induction 2.0L 4 pot.. Its so so nice to drive, incredibly tractable controllable and seriously fast on all types of roads!!

In terms of any video, I do have a run that I did on my mates private driveway, but its in the wet, and I only use full power in 3rd / 4th.. Still, from a standstil to 105mph (indicated on the speedo) in 8.7 seconds seemed pretty good to me in a FWD car on 225 T1-R's in the wet at 0.5 degrees C with a full tank of fuel and a 85KG passenger :happy2:

Also that was running only 17.5psi of boost.. Now with the increased boost limit, well, we will find out soon enough!.. I seriously can't wait for a run at Santa Pod in the dry, with the increased boost, 10 litres in the tank, another 100KG of weight out and 255 width R888's!!

Think its going to shock a few people!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 03, 2010, 05:29:41 pm
 :happy2:  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 03, 2010, 05:32:21 pm
Great car, fair play to you going all out on the golf as the S3 was mental too which I hope I can get mine somewhere near one of the cars lol. Keep up the good work
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 03, 2010, 05:34:24 pm
Stop saying these things Jonny. I was just about over going big turbo until I saw this :laugh:

Can't wait to see it go down the pod :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on January 03, 2010, 05:50:30 pm
Stop saying these things Jonny. I was just about over going big turbo until I saw this :laugh:

Can't wait to see it go down the pod :driver:

I bet you will end up BT. Dont think the k04 will do it for you mate.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2010, 05:58:58 pm
Stop saying these things Jonny. I was just about over going big turbo until I saw this :laugh:

Can't wait to see it go down the pod :driver:

The K04 turbo has huge potential.. I think your 100% right the way your going about modifying the car, to extract all of the available performance before jumping to the conclusion that its not quick enough.. And going big turbo etc..

By the way, had a play with an MTM TT-RS on the way back from Newcastle today..  :grin: :grin: MTM Map and Exhaust.. Around 430hp apparently.. Errrm.. See yaaaaa!! Im confident even the K04 would have walked on it.. So glad I cancelled my order now :scared: His face was a picture..  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on January 03, 2010, 06:21:50 pm
Stop saying these things Jonny. I was just about over going big turbo until I saw this :laugh:

Can't wait to see it go down the pod :driver:

The K04 turbo has huge potential.. I think your 100% right the way your going about modifying the car, to extract all of the available performance before jumping to the conclusion that its not quick enough.. And going big turbo etc..

By the way, had a play with an MTM TT-RS on the way back from Newcastle today..  :grin: :grin: MTM Map and Exhaust.. Around 430hp apparently.. Errrm.. See yaaaaa!! Im confident even the K04 would have walked on it.. So glad I cancelled my order now :scared: His face was a picture..  :grin: :grin:

mtm rs with exhaust kick out 400hp. Think someones been inflating their figures!

The more aggressive sportec mapped RS kicks out 420 brake, and going by the independent figures I have for the sportec RS vs the Revo cupra, the sportec is the quicker car.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2010, 06:26:09 pm
mtm rs with exhaust kick out 400hp. Think someones been inflating their figures!

The more aggressive sportec mapped RS kicks out 420 brake, and going by the independent figures I have for the sportec RS vs the Revo cupra, the sportec is the quicker car.

Nah, seemed about what I had remembered that MTM quote..

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/TTRS-8J/2-5-TFSI-250-kW-340hp-quattro?FZID=TTRS8J250Q&KIT=mttrs340424qx

Yeah, maybes quicker than a Cupra.. Not a DSG Golf though, we all know there a fair bit faster  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on January 03, 2010, 06:31:45 pm
How are you finding traction. I struggle with 300 horses in this weather.   

What would you recommend me to help with traction. I have DSG with eibach suspension at present.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2010, 06:37:54 pm
How are you finding traction. I struggle with 300 horses in this weather.   

What would you recommend me to help with traction. I have DSG with eibach suspension at present.

Ok, if I try and use all of the power in the lower gears then there is an issue, so you drive to the level of grip that you have.. Thats the case with any car in any given condition..

The big turbo cars, although will make bigger power/torque figures than K03/4 cars are hugely progressive anyways, and what I was saying earlier about the feeling of a big capacity motor rather than a boosted 2.0L makes for a lovely package and very usable everyday (if you treat it with respect)..

Engine mounts, high quality tyres and a solid geometry set up will give you the best chances of increasing traction..  :happy2:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on January 03, 2010, 06:47:04 pm
mtm rs with exhaust kick out 400hp. Think someones been inflating their figures!

The more aggressive sportec mapped RS kicks out 420 brake, and going by the independent figures I have for the sportec RS vs the Revo cupra, the sportec is the quicker car.

Nah, seemed about what I had remembered that MTM quote..

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/TTRS-8J/2-5-TFSI-250-kW-340hp-quattro?FZID=TTRS8J250Q&KIT=mttrs340424qx

Yeah, maybes quicker than a Cupra.. Not a DSG Golf though, we all know there a fair bit faster  :wink:

So you missing 4wd with this weather at all?

MTM seem to be inconsistent with their claims. Anyhow in the car review with the mtm rs vs the sportec rs, the sportec was the quicker car.

Revo k1 0-120mph in 18.2 - 0 to 60mph in 5.7
Sportec RS - 0-120mph 15.3 0 to 60mph in 4.2
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 03, 2010, 06:51:49 pm
Which mag was the RS reviews in?

CAR magazine?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2010, 06:56:20 pm
So you missing 4wd with this weather at all?

Ha.. You make me laugh (again)..  :congrats:

Obviously your getting yourself a TT-RS and don't like what I said..  :grin: It was hardly a snipe at you..

Now how does this new ignore button work..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on January 03, 2010, 07:05:59 pm
So you missing 4wd with this weather at all?

Ha.. You make me laugh (again)..  :congrats:

Obviously your getting yourself a TT-RS and don't like what I said..  :grin: It was hardly a snipe at you..

Now how does this new ignore button work..  :grin:

Bloody hell, it was a genuine question  :stupid:

Just cant let some things go eh?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 03, 2010, 07:22:27 pm
Just cant let some things go eh?

Nope..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: monte on January 04, 2010, 12:49:06 am
Here's a challenge for you Jonny ,

Why don't you make the first super light 4X4 Edition30?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Can it be done? if so how much weight extra would there be? I'm guessing quite alot, but could you possibly make the propshaft/ drivetrain bits out of lighter material? Surely R32 drivetrain parts could work?

I remember when TC posted a thread with Dubai Phil's race car on (sorry if I got the name wrong!) It is totally stripped out! I thought it would be great as a 4wd

  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 04, 2010, 01:11:53 pm
It would probably be cheaper to buy the new Golf R and swap the turbo :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 04, 2010, 02:50:25 pm
Loving this thread.

This car is a Masterpiece and  credit to you jonny :congrats:

Just out of interest roughly how much have you spent on the car (ball park not exact) to get it to this from standard?

Oh and what you doing with the KO4 Turbo?

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 03:38:36 pm
Why don't you make the first super light 4X4 Edition30?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Can it be done? if so how much weight extra would there be? I'm guessing quite alot, but could you possibly make the propshaft/ drivetrain bits out of lighter material? Surely R32 drivetrain parts could work?

Hmm.. Well that would then just be an S-Tronic S3.. or DSG MK6 R which I would rather do.. I dont mind playing about with the motor etc, but 4wd conversions etc dont really do it for me.. It is possible though for sure, not a huge amount of work really either..

Probably 150kg+ for the 4wd system.. For the added traction off the line, I cant see it being any faster really with the same power so ill stick with my laggy POS turbo and out of control FWD chassis for now  :wink: :wink:

It would probably be cheaper to buy the new Golf R and swap the turbo :laugh:

Yup, I do really quite like the MK6 actually.. I would rather drop a TFSI into a MK6 GTI though and go from there..  :smiley:

Loving this thread.

This car is a Masterpiece and  credit to you jonny :congrats:

Just out of interest roughly how much have you spent on the car (ball park not exact) to get it to this from standard?

Oh and what you doing with the KO4 Turbo?

Thanks mate  :smiley:

Hmm, tough one, just quickly had a look then, and take a standard ED30 and to get it to the exact same spec as mine is now would be roughly £12k, give or take.. I know its a lot of money, but for me its worth it.. Thats still only £40k total on top of a brand new fully specced ED30 and what else can you get for that money standard, from a showroom that would be anywhere near as quick and usable as an everyday car??

K04 turbo has been sold and will be featuring on the forum soon  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 04, 2010, 04:42:52 pm
haha carls on the look out for a k04, lol

ive got dans from brisky on the way soon :happy2:

will get JKM to do it, but am also considering whether to stay mapped by shark performance, go REVp stage 3, or go APR

@jonny whattyres you planning on running at the pod in jan? will it be the big 255s or will you be on toyos
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 04:45:02 pm
haha carls on the look out for a k04, lol

ive got dans from brisky on the way soon :happy2:

will get JKM to do it, but am also considering whether to stay mapped by shark performance, go REVp stage 3, or go APR

@jonny whattyres you planning on running at the pod in jan? will it be the big 255s or will you be on toyos

Revo stage 3.. You seriously wont be disappointed!!

All being well ill have the 255 R888's.. There is going to be very little heat whatever happens on the day, so really they wont make a huge amount of difference at all but the current wheels are sold so I need to run something!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 04, 2010, 04:56:28 pm
It would probably be cheaper to buy the new Golf R and swap the turbo :laugh:
Yup, I do really quite like the MK6 actually.. I would rather drop a TFSI into a MK6 GTI though and go from there..  :smiley:

Sounds good to me :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on January 04, 2010, 05:01:50 pm
That 'Rocco R will be the way forward, not the Golf R, mark my words!

Love than manifold BTW, proper GT40 'basket of snakes' style!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 05:05:22 pm
That 'Rocco R will be the way forward, not the Golf R, mark my words!

Love than manifold BTW, proper GT40 'basket of snakes' style!

For sure.. Scirocco R is a nice car, could certainly be an option in the future..  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 04, 2010, 05:21:34 pm
haha carls on the look out for a k04, lol

ive got dans from brisky on the way soon :happy2:


Yeah but not for what you think I want the K04 for :P

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 06:24:34 pm
Yeah but not for what you think I want the K04 for :P

Carl :happy2:

2.0T FSI K04 Go-ped?  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 04, 2010, 07:09:35 pm
2.0T FSI K04 Go-ped?  :scared:

Nope a Skateboard  :laugh:

No i have an idea which if it works I reckon will impress even you  :wink:

Also I don't think K04 stage 3 software would be wise for a converted Octavia vRS

I'm thinking bent rods etc due to too much power. I have a Sachs clutch and flywheel in mine so I could handle the torque. But standard forget it. Plus I don't think the BWA internals would cope with K04 stage 3

Carl  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 07:15:19 pm
2.0T FSI K04 Go-ped?  :scared:

Nope a Skateboard  :laugh:

No i have an idea which if it works I reckon will impress even you  :wink:

Also I don't think K04 stage 3 software would be wise for a converted Octavia vRS

I'm thinking bent rods etc due to too much power. I have a Sachs clutch and flywheel in mine so I could handle the torque. But standard forget it. Plus I don't think the BWA internals would cope with K04 stage 3

Carl  :happy2:

Sounds very interesting, looking forward to it  :happy2:

K04 conversion with Stage 3 Revo is no problem for the rods at all! Look how many ED30 / S3 / Cupra's there are out there running with Stage 2+ (same map essentially) Hell, im running 22psi at 7700rpm with a 3076R on stock block!  :laugh:

Revo have been running their own TT with a K04 conversion for a long time now, and that thing has been driven on numerous track and 1/4 mile days, very hard, with far more boost than the stock Stage 3 file.. Still zero problems..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 04, 2010, 07:23:45 pm
Hmm I did wonder if it was all hype.

That may have changed plans slightly then but will have to wait till after I get married.

I'd lose my bollox if I did it beforehand  :rolleye:

What power/torque is the TiT running? And is it purely a K04 conversion (turbo injectors relocated dv and gaskets/seals) or has it had more done to it?

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 07:37:37 pm
Hmm I did wonder if it was all hype.

That may have changed plans slightly then but will have to wait till after I get married.

I'd lose my bollox if I did it beforehand  :rolleye:

What power/torque is the TiT running? And is it purely a K04 conversion (turbo injectors relocated dv and gaskets/seals) or has it had more done to it?

Carl :happy2:

Ha.. Best do then  :happy2:

RS4 injectors, K04 ED30 turbo and manifold, DV relocation, Milltek turbo back, ITG intake, HPFP etc etc.. So basically a full bolt on K04.. Yeahh dont worry, I mean, yeah you can throw a rod with a K04, hell.. You could do one with a K03, but thats on sh*tty tunes with excessive timing, huge EGT's and so everything runs hot, and things will break..

There is a HUGE amount of different areas that need to be considered before just saying (as many do) that the 2.0T FSI block in standard form is only good for 350WHP..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 04, 2010, 07:59:44 pm
350WHP would do me just fine as that about 400-420 at the flywheel  :laugh:

Coupled with a diff brilliant

Carl  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 08:01:46 pm
350WHP would do me just fine as that about 400-420 at the flywheel  :laugh:

Coupled with a diff brilliant

Carl  :rolleye:

3071 will see that power running 1.60 ish bar boost.. Do it  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 04, 2010, 08:28:01 pm
3071 will see that power running 1.60 ish bar boost.. Do it  :happy2:

Nah.

My plan with K04 if it works will suffice. If not maxxed K04 conversion should do :P

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 04, 2010, 08:30:30 pm
3071 will see that power running 1.60 ish bar boost.. Do it  :happy2:

Nah.

My plan with K04 if it works will suffice. If not maxxed K04 conversion should do :P

Carl :happy2:

You can't fit two in there lol.. Yeah maxed out K04 you will see 310WHP give or take.. With the supporting mods it makes for a lovely car!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 04, 2010, 08:41:11 pm
carl what is it you have read or heard that makes you think you could damage you engine. im yet to see a bad report?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 04, 2010, 09:30:07 pm
My thinking was if the engine was ok as is in BWA/AXX etc form then why did VAG change the internals and strengthen the bottom end for the K04 engines? There must be some reason behind it. After all they are a buisness and why pay more for development and parts if the engine they already have is fine?  :confused:

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 05, 2010, 11:54:08 pm
Little video for you all..

Ok so just to again make the point, this video was recorded on a private driveway and NOT the public road

From a week or so ago on WET roads / 225 T1-R Toyo / 17.5psi boost / full tank / 85kg passenger

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fth_IMG_0635.jpg&hash=5d0776a8b6bec2193ce520ade905173ce5372f40) (http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/jonnnny28/?action=view&current=IMG_0635.flv)

I got it at 0-105mph (on the speedo) in 8.7 seconds.. I think I will be down in the mid to low 7's 0-100 mph once I have the tyres on and I can finally do a run in the dry!!

I seriously cant wait to run at the pod with almost 200kg less / 5psi more boost / 255 Toyo R888 and some other little trick bits..

Now STOP SNOWWWWINNGGGGGG!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: ollie288 on January 05, 2010, 11:59:31 pm
^^^ :surprised: WOW!  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: v2brett on January 06, 2010, 12:21:34 am
Awesome motor mate  :congrats:   acceleration is awesome  :notworthy: :notworthy:      i cant wait to see some pod times.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 06, 2010, 12:22:34 am
WOWzers!! that sounds incredible  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Leeds s3 on January 06, 2010, 01:23:03 am
ooooofffffff i wish my business was doing better.I need that power.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 06, 2010, 06:13:20 am
Stupendous work Jonny - am looking to seeing you and the car at the pod too, bring it on  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on January 06, 2010, 08:18:18 am
Loving it so far.  :happy2:

Will it have all its toys for the 17th or are you going to tease us for a later date?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 06, 2010, 10:37:48 am
If thats in the wet cant wait to see it in the dry, was did the s3 do to 100mph in the vid you posted?

The car sounds mental too  :jumping: is that just from the turbo? as it sounds like a race car :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on January 06, 2010, 11:27:30 am
That sounds awesome!!

Do you have a end goal for the ED30?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 12:28:37 pm
Thanks for all of the comments guys..  :happy2:

Will it have all its toys for the 17th or are you going to tease us for a later date?  :smiley:

I going to try and get as much done for the day as I can but for sure there will be plenty of other bits that will be left to do.. Its a good thing though, I know that there is more to come whatever happens!  :smiley:

If thats in the wet cant wait to see it in the dry, was did the s3 do to 100mph in the vid you posted?

The car sounds mental too  :jumping: is that just from the turbo? as it sounds like a race car :signLOL:

The S3 did 0-95MPH indicated on the speedo in 6.9 seconds, but that was in the dry.. I think there going to be very very close to be honest..

The sound is coming from the external wastegate dump, the video does it no justice at all.. Wait until you hear it on the 17th lol.. Its VERY loud.. Plus, by then (hopefully) it will be exiting from the bonnet, which should make it sound even more crazy!  :scared:

Do you have a end goal for the ED30?

In terms of power output? I want to be able to use the car on the road, so the aim is mid to high 400's.. Which I should be at with around 1.70bar boost on this turbo..

The headline figure doesn't really mean anything though, its the useable effective powerband that your working with, and with this turbo on this engine its from 3500rpm to 8500rpm which is fantastic!

Im going to put some rods in, and at the same time build the head so that I can rev it.. Then that will be it, im not going to chase huge figures or run crazy boost.. Its really not worth it..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 01:10:14 pm
im not going to chase huge figures or run crazy boost.. Its really not worth it..

Have you fallen over in the Snow and bumped your head  :confused: :confused:

I thought you were from the Jeremy Clarkson school of POWWWWWWERRRRRRRRR  :signLOL:

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on January 06, 2010, 01:41:30 pm
'sh*t thats quick' was my first reaction from the vid  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 02:20:09 pm
im not going to chase huge figures or run crazy boost.. Its really not worth it..

Have you fallen over in the Snow and bumped your head  :confused: :confused:

I thought you were from the Jeremy Clarkson school of POWWWWWWERRRRRRRRR  :signLOL:

Carl :happy2:

Haha.. Well you know what I mean.. Some people would consider 500hp in a FWD car big power, and it is.. But I mean, im not going for 700hp+..  :wink:

'sh*t thats quick' was my first reaction from the vid  :congrats:

That was my reaction too after the first drive!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on January 06, 2010, 02:52:20 pm
Sh&t the bed quick!

I'm a little lost with this large thread now, has it got the KO4 or BT? Read whileback you had cancelled the order ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 02:55:35 pm
Sh&t the bed quick!

I'm a little lost with this large thread now, has it got the KO4 or BT? Read whileback you had cancelled the order ?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0578.jpg&hash=50d6da428e438592e6a9dd0f7e0248d45f46d4fc)

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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: CarrG on January 06, 2010, 02:57:08 pm
Ah now i see  :happy2:  :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 03:02:05 pm
Wish i had a 9 incher  :laugh:


Carl  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on January 06, 2010, 03:04:54 pm
That is mental, it's only like half a second off matching a face-lift 997 Turbo to 100 in worse conditions.....  :signLOL:

DSG doesn't seem to give a rats ass about the power which must be a reassuring thing?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 03:08:58 pm
Haha, yep.. Little bit larger than the K04, but drivability is amazing.. Seriously surprised me I have to say..

That is mental, it's only like half a second off matching a face-lift 997 Turbo to 100 in worse conditions.....  :signLOL:

DSG doesn't seem to give a rats ass about the power which must be a reassuring thing?

Oh its very quick, and from 60mph its amazing.. Not yet managed to use the power in 2nd gear but thats going to be pretty rapid firing through the gears..

Yeah, the DSG box is coping fine, takes it all in its stride, I think its a combination of obviously the Revo Stage 2 DSG map but also the progressive engine mapping and way that the boost on this turbo comes in so smoothly..

I feel that the gearbox is less stressed than with the K04 to be honest, its all a lot smoother than it was with Stage 2+ K04.. And faster too! I think you can probably tell but I couldn't be happier with it..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 06, 2010, 03:43:08 pm
Would you recommend putting one of these on a Golf R?

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 03:46:31 pm
Would you recommend putting one of these on a Golf R?

 :smiley:

For sure.. I would recommend fitting one of these to any 2.0T FSI out there!!  :grin:

I would imagine the fitting of a BSH turbo kit and 3076R onto a Golf R would be very similar to the S3.. In which case I dont think you would be able to fit the larger exhaust housing because of lack of space due to the transfer box..

Other than that yeah, I would go DSG too.. With weight out it would make for a seriously quick car!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 03:52:27 pm
What even a 2.0TFSi in a Skoda vRS??

Carl  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 03:55:42 pm
What even a 2.0TFSi in a Skoda vRS??

Carl  :happy2:

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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 03:58:33 pm
I still think that the bottom end would fail to cope.

On a side note how easy do you think it would be to change a Manual vRS to a DSG or am i asking for to much trouble

I know anything is possible just wondering how easy a job it would be.

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 04:10:42 pm
I still think that the bottom end would fail to cope.

On a side note how easy do you think it would be to change a Manual vRS to a DSG or am i asking for to much trouble

I know anything is possible just wondering how easy a job it would be.


Only one way to find out, but I seriously think you would be ok..

Yeah its possible, but really not cheap!  :surprised:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on January 06, 2010, 04:19:47 pm
didn't MRC map a GT30 on a boggo GTI to 400bhp?

That's what Charlie was saying at SRR anyway (as Doug took the car their to have it mapped on the DD dyno)

so its possible...but not sure how long it would last on the OEM bits of the AXX / BWA motor.

Bit more chance with a ED30/S3 block with stronger bits.

But if you want to use a GT30, you really might as well have the bottom end built to make use of the turbo.

ps: JC that acceleration in 2nd / 3rd gear is f'ing mad lol. Is torque/boost limited in the lower gears at the mo?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 04:32:16 pm
didn't MRC map a GT30 on a boggo GTI to 400bhp?

That's what Charlie was saying at SRR anyway (as Doug took the car their to have it mapped on the DD dyno)

so its possible...but not sure how long it would last on the OEM bits of the AXX / BWA motor.

Bit more chance with a ED30/S3 block with stronger bits.

But if you want to use a GT30, you really might as well have the bottom end built to make use of the turbo.

ps: JC that acceleration in 2nd / 3rd gear is f'ing mad lol. Is torque/boost limited in the lower gears at the mo?

Yeah think they made 420hp with an ATP 3071R kit..

To be honest, at the moment without the fueling solutions out there to run more than 450hp on pump fuel the stock ED30/S3 block should be fine.. Its been done over and over without problems.. Again, as im sure you know, its not the headline power figure that determines the breaking point of an engines internals, there is so so much more to it.. And all of the motor failures I have seen up to now have been down to other contributing factors..

Running out of fuel, wastegate line disconnected, excessive timing and heat, coolant loss resulting in overheating and a big end bearing ceasing up, the list goes on.. Up until now I dont think there has been one case of everything being all good with the car, and simply snapping a road due to excessive power levels..

No torque limit in the lower gears, thats just me babying it ha.. Yeah, when it gets going its crazy! And thats only at 1.2 bar boost.. Its running 1.5 now and will be running around 1.7 bar at Santa Pod (or as soon as there is enough clear road to do some logging)

When BSH were dyno testing their own GT3076R GTI they saw an increase of 120BHP increasing the boost from 1.2 bar to 1.7 so there is plenty more to come from that video  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on January 06, 2010, 04:44:54 pm
again, bonkers jonny! i was like this  :jumping: watching that!
 :drinking:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 06, 2010, 04:46:53 pm
I still think that the bottom end would fail to cope.

On a side note how easy do you think it would be to change a Manual vRS to a DSG or am i asking for to much trouble

I know anything is possible just wondering how easy a job it would be.


Only one way to find out, but I seriously think you would be ok..

Yeah its possible, but really not cheap!  :surprised:

Not possible on a VRs engine - sorry

If you swapped the engine and put in a new car and engine loom, matched up the mechatronic unit with the clocks and Vin unit then you'd be okay, but it means deep pockets :smiley:

Sorry for the threadjack Jonny :smiley:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 06, 2010, 06:28:03 pm
Awesome Jonny, I cannot wait to see it go at The Pod  :xmassmiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 06:32:02 pm
I think it would be cheaper than you think to swap the engine.

I was actually referring to doing what Jonny has done to a BWA engine. So same as what is in a K03 GTi

A complete S3 engine went recently for a shade under £2k (complete with Loom Turbo etc)

It would be a straight swap from a vRS to the S3 engine, reflash the ECU to take into account it's got a bigger turbo and hey presto

They lot could be done for around £3-3.5k then sell the BWA engine for around £1200-1400 so about £2.5k overall

A K04 conversion for me at my level of tune would be Approx £2600 (i only need the turbo, injectors and associated gaskets etc) so the engine swap would work out about the same

So in theory i could do what jonny has done but i just doubt that the BWA engine would cope at the bottom end. As i said earlier their must be some reason VAG strengthened it in the first place for the K04 versions.

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 06:49:17 pm
Awesome Jonny, I cannot wait to see it go at The Pod  :xmassmiley:

 :happy2: Are you still just running Stage 1 Tom? If so get it sorted!!  :wink:

I think it would be cheaper than you think to swap the engine.

I was actually referring to doing what Jonny has done to a BWA engine. So same as what is in a K03 GTi

A complete S3 engine went recently for a shade under £2k (complete with Loom Turbo etc)

It would be a straight swap from a vRS to the S3 engine, reflash the ECU to take into account it's got a bigger turbo and hey presto

They lot could be done for around £3-3.5k then sell the BWA engine for around £1200-1400 so about £2.5k overall

A K04 conversion for me at my level of tune would be Approx £2600 (i only need the turbo, injectors and associated gaskets etc) so the engine swap would work out about the same

So in theory i could do what jonny has done but i just doubt that the BWA engine would cope at the bottom end. As i said earlier their must be some reason VAG strengthened it in the first place for the K04 versions.

Carl :happy2:

Alternatively, drop in a set of rods into yours which would cost about a grand all in..

Then go and do whatever you want to it with confidence!..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 06, 2010, 06:54:57 pm
Awesome Jonny, I cannot wait to see it go at The Pod  :xmassmiley:

 :happy2: Are you still just running Stage 1 Tom? If so get it sorted!!  :wink:


I am unfortunately and it's looking like it's gonna be that way for a while!  :sad1:

It's looking like me and the misses are gonna be getting our first house this year so every spare penny is now going to the house fund instead of the car fund!  :sick:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 07:01:20 pm
I am unfortunately and it's looking like it's gonna be that way for a while!  :sad1:

It's looking like me and the misses are gonna be getting our first house this year so every spare penny is now going to the house fund instead of the car fund!  :sick:


 :grin: Come on, just a little DSG map?? She wont mind..  :happy2: haha..

Im sure that you would drop into the 12's at Pod with just a Stage 1 DSG and Engine map :)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 06, 2010, 07:12:53 pm
I am unfortunately and it's looking like it's gonna be that way for a while!  :sad1:

It's looking like me and the misses are gonna be getting our first house this year so every spare penny is now going to the house fund instead of the car fund!  :sick:


 :grin: Come on, just a little DSG map?? She wont mind..  :happy2: haha..

Im sure that you would drop into the 12's at Pod with just a Stage 1 DSG and Engine map :)

That is definately on the cards for the coming months, i'll be able to keep that under the radar too!  :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 07:36:51 pm
Alternatively, drop in a set of rods into yours which would cost about a grand all in..

Then go and do whatever you want to it with confidence!..  :smiley:

Now that does sound a better option. Any links or recommendations as to which rods to get?

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 07:38:23 pm
Alternatively, drop in a set of rods into yours which would cost about a grand all in..

Then go and do whatever you want to it with confidence!..  :smiley:

Now that does sound a better option. Any links or recommendations as to which rods to get?

Carl :happy2:

Integrated engineering do drop in rods for the 200hp 2.0T FSI..

http://www.intengineering.com/Rods/20-FSI/sc238049-1-2//page/1/checkForLanding/true

As I say, for a rod change your probably looking around £1K all in.. Dont quote me on it though.. But around that figure
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 08:00:42 pm
I take it even though it says 2.0 FSI (not TFSi) they are still the correct ones?

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 06, 2010, 08:14:25 pm
apologies for the thread jack jonny
@mater
there you go carl get the bottom end done,

then speak to regal and get one of these GT28RS turbo kits
http://www.vag-tuner.com/acatalog/Dbilas_2.0TFSi_Turbo_Kits.html


get them to remove this dbilias, and DV relocation jobbie to save you a few more pennuies as you have all that already, get yourself some S3 injectors(micky32 off brisky has aset for £90 if you getthere before me :P)and you have a gt28RS powered skoda vRS that wont blow up(possibly fastest mk2 vRS in UK)

add a little water meth and yoou could have a graph like this
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@jonnyc

how are you adjusting all your settings, have you gone for the revo generic Gt30 map, then done logs yourself and adjusting via SPS, or is it REVO reccomended settings.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 06, 2010, 08:21:14 pm
I think i'd prefer it without the Water/Meth kit

360bhp sounds good to me on standard internals. I would say that was more than enough including the 350lb/ft and still holding over 300 from 3900 - 6800 RPM

That with a diff would make for one seriously quick car.

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 06, 2010, 08:35:50 pm
dan did bend a piston iirc though, not sure what map it was on though, he also came from a lower spec engine Leon TFSI sport i think. he now has uprated internals

even without the meth its still not slow by any means. not quite the GT30 output though.

what is your final output prediction going to be Jonny? you going to put water meth in her or is it not required with your mods. you could make more power whilststaying on pump fuel then?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 06, 2010, 08:49:43 pm
I think it would be cheaper than you think to swap the engine.

I was actually referring to doing what Jonny has done to a BWA engine. So same as what is in a K03 GTi

A complete S3 engine went recently for a shade under £2k (complete with Loom Turbo etc)

It would be a straight swap from a vRS to the S3 engine, reflash the ECU to take into account it's got a bigger turbo and hey presto

They lot could be done for around £3-3.5k then sell the BWA engine for around £1200-1400 so about £2.5k overall

A K04 conversion for me at my level of tune would be Approx £2600 (i only need the turbo, injectors and associated gaskets etc) so the engine swap would work out about the same

So in theory i could do what jonny has done but i just doubt that the BWA engine would cope at the bottom end. As i said earlier their must be some reason VAG strengthened it in the first place for the K04 versions.

Carl :happy2:

Sorry Carl I misunderstood you, I thought you meant to change to DSG and keep your existing engine, which cannot be done as you couldn't get a matching code from a VRs to mate up and work with a DSG. The engines are the same, but the mapping is different. I spoke to Steve at Statllers this afternoon about it to get my original answer.
Swapping to an ED30/S3 engine and DSG would work for sure :happy2:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on January 06, 2010, 08:51:08 pm
i think the GT28RS (GT2860 basically) is very "last year" now....

GT2871R is the base...then GT3071R..and those who are bonkers can go for a GT35R.

Dan's Leon uses the APR GT2871R btw.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 06, 2010, 08:52:54 pm
I think i'd prefer it without the Water/Meth kit

360bhp sounds good to me on standard internals. I would say that was more than enough including the 350lb/ft and still holding over 300 from 3900 - 6800 RPM

That with a diff would make for one seriously quick car.

Carl :happy2:

I still have a GT2871 kit for sale :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 06, 2010, 09:07:37 pm
christ thats a spanner in the works full gt2871 kit for 1200 with engine internals upgrade for 1k, thats some pretty big gains for not much money. thats some good BHP/£ there carl
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on January 06, 2010, 11:00:23 pm
Haha, yep.. Little bit larger than the K04, but drivability is amazing.. Seriously surprised me I have to say..

That is mental, it's only like half a second off matching a face-lift 997 Turbo to 100 in worse conditions.....  :signLOL:

DSG doesn't seem to give a rats ass about the power which must be a reassuring thing?

Oh its very quick, and from 60mph its amazing.. Not yet managed to use the power in 2nd gear but thats going to be pretty rapid firing through the gears..

Yeah, the DSG box is coping fine, takes it all in its stride, I think its a combination of obviously the Revo Stage 2 DSG map but also the progressive engine mapping and way that the boost on this turbo comes in so smoothly..

I feel that the gearbox is less stressed than with the K04 to be honest, its all a lot smoother than it was with Stage 2+ K04.. And faster too! I think you can probably tell but I couldn't be happier with it..  :smiley:

Possibly a keeper or sell it on once it's done? Also what are you expecting as a terminal speed on the 1/4?

Luke.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 06, 2010, 11:55:13 pm
how are you adjusting all your settings, have you gone for the revo generic Gt30 map, then done logs yourself and adjusting via SPS, or is it REVO reccomended settings.

Im running the Revo stage 4 beta file, which is running the car beautifully.. As for boost timing and fueling, thats all adjusted via the SPS I have after logs etc.. Just as normal really..  :happy2:

360bhp sounds good to me on standard internals. I would say that was more than enough including the 350lb/ft and still holding over 300 from 3900 - 6800 RPM

Thats achievable with a bolt on OEM K04 conversion.. Or is that what you mean??  :ashamed:

what is your final output prediction going to be Jonny? you going to put water meth in her or is it not required with your mods. you could make more power whilststaying on pump fuel then?

I think so yeah.. Im aiming for 500hp on pump fuel with no additives (NOS / WaterMeth) etc etc.. Revving to 8500rpm at 1.8 bar I think that will be achievable, but we will have to see! Again, its not really the power output, I just want to go as far as I can on this turbo / engine set up on pump fuel only.. As im sure you know the limit is always going to be the knock

Possibly a keeper or sell it on once it's done? Also what are you expecting as a terminal speed on the 1/4?

To be honest at the moment im so much in the middle of the project that I dont really see myself selling it, but, I said that about the S3 too.. If a sensible offer comes along then I would consider it for sure..

Based on the K04 running almost 116mph I think low to mid 120's should be possible..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 07, 2010, 06:01:07 pm

360bhp sounds good to me on standard internals. I would say that was more than enough including the 350lb/ft and still holding over 300 from 3900 - 6800 RPM

Thats achievable with a bolt on OEM K04 conversion.. Or is that what you mean??  :ashamed:



I don't think i'd get 360bhp/350lb/ft with a KO4 conversion on a BWA engine :confused: (well unless i go to Superchips  :signLOL:)

Biggest i have seen on DD RR is 324bhp and 320lb/ft and thats a car thats gone from Stage 2+ which i am now to KO4 conversion.

Maybe if you uprated rods and pistons  or used RS4 injectors but i haven't seen a BWA get that power yet from a KO4.

Have you seen one Jonny?

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 07, 2010, 06:06:26 pm
Update..

Ok so managed to get another couple of hours on the car today and made some progress with the new intake system that Ill be running..

The reason for this is to make room for the bonnet exit external wastegate dump tube.. Its going to require a fair bit of work, but im sure that it will all be worth it in the end!

Just to note that Im using the same diameter pipe work and MAF housing that I have been running with the Twintake, so im confident that I will not encounter any problems in that area..

So first we fabricated up the bends and mocked up the intake for fitment..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0699.jpg&hash=64b9bf7979b47a3891c74ff08a7dd7215c87bd09)
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Im using an Evoms filter and filter neck so there was a bit of cutting involved..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0693.jpg&hash=12f3f94e77413876a090136556e82cd4889d4b01)

And finally the complete mocked up intake off the car.. (marked up with the placement for supporting bracket tab and recirculation bung)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0700.jpg&hash=a6437e44408d27dc8a1f5e6da5ff149895ae7c21)

Just a few more bits to do once the intake is fully sorted..


So im really pleased with that! The intake is now going off to be welded up and the pipe work ceramic coated..

Recently there has been some kind of issue over 6000rpm where the car felt almost like the throttle was being closed partially, we couldn't see anything on the logs and everything seemed to be fine throughout the car so I decided to change the MAF sensor to a new item and see if there was any difference..

The car now feels FAR stronger, much more responsive and its stronger over 6000rpm than it has ever been, so that seems to have sorted it out.. On close inspection the MAF sensor that came out looked 100% fine (it has covered 35000 miles from new) but obviously its just gone bad.. Glad thats sorted now!

After testing the car before and after with the old and new MAF sensor I decided to fit the Forge Motorsports FSI valve, I had been running the completely standard diaphragm valve..

One off black anodized valve.. (ignore the nasty looking boost tap, getting a nice new one made up on the lathe)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0696.jpg&hash=e0f020351c1bfed99179f77f6cb23d5f0686153a)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0697.jpg&hash=5b65601ec2c6f365c121d07030385cc3b3bb82df)

Driving the car now with the new valve it again feels stronger.. All these little bits are adding up and the car feels better than ever!

So thats about it really, should have it all on early next week, along with lots of other little bits that im thinking of..
























Oh.. And just a couple of teasers!

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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 07, 2010, 06:13:18 pm
Ahhhh, got yourself some wideband sensors  :happy2: Looking good Jonny!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 07, 2010, 09:31:00 pm
hurry up AND GET THAT INTAKE ON!  :party:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 07, 2010, 09:44:58 pm
that intake style is very much like what alot of the jap cars running BTs use. mounting the filter close to the turbo with out any right angle bends to disrupt flow should be.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 07, 2010, 10:11:10 pm
I take it that Twintake is going your way Joe?  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 08, 2010, 12:14:34 pm
Awesome Jonny, I am going to be having  a good perve at The Pod  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 08, 2010, 12:33:44 pm
Awesome Jonny, I am going to be having  a good perve at The Pod  :drool:

Im trying my best to have it looking respectable for then, but I have a feeling that with this weather its going to be a struggle to get everything I want sorted done in time..  :sad1:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: tony_danza on January 08, 2010, 12:57:54 pm
The Stack discplay doesn't have enough rev numbers on it.... :wink:

I also demand you flock the dash and doorcard tops.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: GTIjames on January 08, 2010, 01:53:02 pm
looking very good jonny  :happy2:

interesting about the maf making a big difference - been having a few issues c5krpm with mine where the power stutters a bit

do you have the part number?

thanks
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 08, 2010, 02:52:02 pm
looking very good jonny  :happy2:

interesting about the maf making a big difference - been having a few issues c5krpm with mine where the power stutters a bit

do you have the part number?

Thanks mate, Hmm.. Not off the top of my head but its just a standard ED30 MAF.. They will go after time, and do so very progressively, making it hard to feel the deterioration so worth a try..

From now on ill just drop a new MAF in mine every 4k miles along with a cam follower, new plugs, oil and filter change and DSG service.. Just to keep everything in perfect form..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 08, 2010, 04:03:10 pm
I know you said that you've changed the intake to make room for the external wastegate dump, so do you think that the new design will perform worse than the Twintake or just as well?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Aparoon on January 08, 2010, 04:05:59 pm
Did you run the bsh intake for a while on the s3 and whats your opinion on that one?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 08, 2010, 04:15:05 pm
I know you said that you've changed the intake to make room for the external wastegate dump, so do you think that the new design will perform worse than the Twintake or just as well?

I would expect it to work just as well to be honest.. With the tubular manifold, a stock location intake picks up a huge amount of heat, so it will be interesting to see how this one performs.. The combination of short intake pipe, good cold air feed and Forge MAF etc (which is the critical bit) im hoping to see good results.. Time will tell I guess, its a first attempt, and there will be room for improvement im sure..

I still 100% rate the Twintake as the best intake out there currently for the 2.0T FSI motor.. Just I need something a little different to achieve what im after..

Did you run the bsh intake for a while on the s3 and whats your opinion on that one?

Yeah I ran the BSH intake on the S3.. Its nice, stock size pipe and MAF housing and a nicely made filter heatshield but the filter area itself is a little small for my liking on a larger turbo..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on January 08, 2010, 07:35:07 pm
Like the vid, dsg is the really impressive thing for me. GT3076 is the best all round road turbo for a 2.0l so not suprised there.
Definetly a 11 second car . :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 08, 2010, 07:37:37 pm
Like the vid, dsg is the really impressive thing for me. GT3076 is the best all round road turbo for a 2.0l so not suprised there.
Definetly a 11 second car . :happy2:

Cheers Ryan..

I can honestly say that I couldn't be more happy with the match up between the turbo / manifold and this engine running the Revo software, its fantastic..

Now its just going to be a case of all the little bits coming together, takes lots of time (and money) but its all those little bits that really make the difference when all added up..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 09, 2010, 02:47:46 pm
Ok, decided f*ck it and going the whole hog..

Built motor here we come!  :smiley:

2.0T FSI porn!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NotNormal on January 09, 2010, 03:06:07 pm
Ok, decided f*ck it and going the whole hog..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC_6776.jpg&hash=62e23829cb1c693d8080e2981a36618a1e608850)

2.0T FSI porn!  :happy2:

Nice, what make is that little haul ??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 09, 2010, 03:23:15 pm
Nice, what make is that little haul ??

INA Engineering Rods.. Supertech 82.5MM / 9.1:1 CR Pistons..  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 09, 2010, 04:16:15 pm
Very nice, is this for the other block you have? what sort of power increase do you think ull gain with the lot?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NotNormal on January 09, 2010, 05:02:17 pm
Are you adding the crank (pictured) also ?

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 94Luke on January 09, 2010, 06:59:44 pm
haha are you serious jonny? good man  :happy2:

Do you think it will be fast than the S3 (0-60, 1/4 mile, in the twisties)?

Keep us posted  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gillm on January 09, 2010, 07:18:17 pm
sounds like it will be fast .

i had a knife-edged crank in my mk1 along with some cams and a lightened fly wheel , what a pig that was to keep idleing
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 09, 2010, 07:35:14 pm
jesus christ, you need to get yorself in a clinic with your spending lol.

If your going the full hog What about the head and cams.

BDM do a ported Cylinder head http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2702124
scrick do some cams

then there wouldnt be anything left to put on her then........
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 10, 2010, 12:55:48 am
Very nice, is this for the other block you have? what sort of power increase do you think ull gain with the lot?

Yeah plan is to build a motor then drop it in when a couple of other bits im working on are ready.. Then its time to make some real power.. Aim is a solid 500Hp (proper HP not Disney rolling road HP) Revving to 8500rpm running around 26psi.. Thats the aim, we will see how it goes!

Are you adding the crank (pictured) also ?

Yup, not a normal crank though, 75CC more  :happy2:

haha are you serious jonny? good man  :happy2:

Do you think it will be fast than the S3 (0-60, 1/4 mile, in the twisties)?

Keep us posted  :wink:

Lots faster I think.. I have taken the decision to go ALL OUT on this car now, hence the motor build.. Im aiming for the 10's in the 1/4 in 2010.. I know that seems stupidly fast, and it is.. But I have a serious amount of development going into the car.. Its going to be wild!!

sounds like it will be fast .

i had a knife-edged crank in my mk1 along with some cams and a lightened fly wheel , what a pig that was to keep idleing


Hope so!!  :smiley: Yeah N/A with big lift cams, light crank and flywheel thats not a surprise.. Great thing with the 2.0T FSI and the Bosch ECU is that you have stock like driveability, even on larger injectors and big turbo.. Love it!

jesus christ, you need to get yorself in a clinic with your spending lol.

If your going the full hog What about the head and cams.

BDM do a ported Cylinder head http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2702124
scrick do some cams

then there wouldnt be anything left to put on her then........

The head is being built with Ferrea valve train parts, being ported and polished and for now will be running stock cams, Im working on a set of much more aggressive cams than Schrick have to offer..

And You would be surprised what else is going to happen to this car, trust me  :wink: There is plenty else  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 10, 2010, 10:18:38 am
Jonny in the below pic I know the top left is the washer bottle & the top right the PCV mod? but what is the one below & what does it do?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05319.jpg&hash=16bedcbcab888b6a94de05d350434b5a0c505b9b)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 10, 2010, 01:46:14 pm
Jonny in the below pic I know the top left is the washer bottle & the top right the PCV mod? but what is the one below & what does it do?

Thats the charcoal canister.. It catches vented fuel vapors and recirculated them for the engine to burn off.. All of the 2.0T FSI cars have them, just mine has a cover on it thats all..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 10, 2010, 02:37:55 pm
Thanks, does it just cover over the orginal? cant seem to find it on the forge site  :stupid:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 10, 2010, 03:07:43 pm
Thanks, does it just cover over the orginal? cant seem to find it on the forge site  :stupid:

Yep, just a cover.. Not sure if there selling them yet?? I dont know..

Update..

Just a few more bits for the car..

Another set of Project Mu brakes from VW Racing (Cheers guys)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FPicture380c.jpg&hash=c608cab521328f3dd72c62f8323516810dd5d760)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FPicture417c.jpg&hash=129d45b8d85024cf8746f78420f40e4f38aa6b36)

KW camber adjustable top mounts

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC03310.jpg&hash=2f74bd85fd777f0a7c3feb20ee8e789418e57ae5)

VW Racing carbon bonnet.. (Will be painted CW, probs not in time for Santa Pod though now)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05224.jpg&hash=f777a3581d63a4716af223be082e93c9213b4abd)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05226.jpg&hash=e9facc60ccf694e751b98e898f9ec3b79633f30a)

Custom cold air feed using a 102mm inlet (picture shows 76mm inlet)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05275.jpg&hash=f603c1500a78f382bb18df995fc7aa9488fd7728)

And then just a few thermal insulation pieces for the engine bay..


Then for the really exciting stuff!!.. Time for a built motor!!


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC-012929.jpg&hash=99c4e2f65500aa733e0a21fcc969731307dae679)

2.0T FSI ARP 2000 head bolt kit

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Ffsi_studs.jpg&hash=1c6dd23f6adf9ffbe0b36451b53b25e21152b79c)

The OEM cylinder head will be ported and polished and installed with a stock size Ferrea valve train kit..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FFERREA-16VFSIKIT.jpg&hash=f0110db1da01d36832128a188bf9a05bd37ff9e9)

Ill be running stock cams for the mean time.. The current offerings available have yet to prove there worth, so im working on some other options that will be considerably cheaper and more effective..

Im not quite decided on which way im going to tackle the engine build, I may just build the motor thats in the car, or possibly buy another ED30 motor and build that, either way it will be done around March this year, which will be in time for the weather improving (hopefully) and the up coming show season in the UK..

The engine build parts will make for a motor good for well over 600hp crank HP and will be capable of revving to 9000rpm without a problem (Ferrea have tested the valve train to 9800rpm)

Thanks to Issam @ INA Engineering for the engine parts!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on January 10, 2010, 03:11:02 pm
Yeah buddy!! looks sweet, what are the stoppers? 4 pots?

Luke.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 10, 2010, 03:25:25 pm
Yeah buddy!! looks sweet, what are the stoppers? 4 pots?

Luke.

Yeah 4 piston, had them on the Golf previously, and then they went on the S3 and got sold on with the car.. Best brakes I have ever driven with on a road car for sure..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gillm on January 10, 2010, 03:43:23 pm
what turbo are you going to be using ?

i hear mrc are using a gt30 and getting 450 on a afaik std e30 engine
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 10, 2010, 03:47:15 pm
what turbo are you going to be using ?

i hear mrc are using a gt30 and getting 450 on a afaik std e30 engine

Im already using a GT3076R turbo by Owen developments.. All of the turbo kit hardware is already up and running and on the car.. Cant think what page now but the build is in here somewhere..  :smiley:

MRC are using a stock 3071R yeah, 450hp is about the limit of that turbo with the exhaust housing that there using.. The turbo im using will make 600hp no problems on this motor..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gillm on January 10, 2010, 03:53:06 pm
wow thats all i can say !

for some reason i thought you were still running a ko4 on a equal manifold . i reckon you are best of building a kitchen engine ! . i.e build up a spare block and head and do a weekend swap .

cracking car tho mate
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 10, 2010, 03:56:26 pm
wow thats all i can say !

for some reason i thought you were still running a ko4 on a equal manifold . i reckon you are best of building a kitchen engine ! . i.e build up a spare block and head and do a weekend swap .

cracking car tho mate

Yup  :smiley: Yeah thats the way im going to be honest, that way I have a spare too and the car isn't off the road for more than a couple of days tops..

Cheers  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: monte on January 10, 2010, 07:29:07 pm
So Jonny, You have moved the intake to the left? Have made another cold air feed from the left fog grill? or are you using 2 cold air feeds, one from each foglamp grill? would it be of any benefit to have 2 air feeds?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 10, 2010, 07:30:54 pm
Thanks, does it just cover over the orginal? cant seem to find it on the forge site  :stupid:

Yep, just a cover.. Not sure if there selling them yet?? I dont know..


A few other guys on Audi sport had it and just told me to contact forge, great update!

Is crank power at the flywheel?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: yin on January 10, 2010, 07:47:19 pm
Thanks, does it just cover over the orginal? cant seem to find it on the forge site  :stupid:


http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMCHSCI
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 10, 2010, 07:56:16 pm
So Jonny, You have moved the intake to the left? Have made another cold air feed from the left fog grill? or are you using 2 cold air feeds, one from each foglamp grill? would it be of any benefit to have 2 air feeds?

Not yet, but Im in the process of doing the intake.. Its being welded up tomorrow so fingers crossed Wednesday I can get the car in for all of the work before Santa Pod.. (not including the engine build obviously)

Im moving the washer bottle to make room for a hose to feed the filter, and ill just run the cold air feed from the driver side fog grill yeah..  :smiley: I really doubt it would be of any benefit having two, im sure I can get more than enough cold air into the filter area with just one feed.. Plus, it would look pretty scrappy running one from the other side too..

A few other guys on Audi sport had it and just told me to contact forge, great update!

Is crank power at the flywheel?

Thanks mate.. Yeah crank power is flywheel power..  :smiley:

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMCHSCI

There we are  :happy2: Tidys up the engine bay nicely I think..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: rainking on January 11, 2010, 12:07:22 pm
Not sure if you've heard, but Santa Pod have called off the RWYB on the 17th due to the weather.....

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 11, 2010, 12:09:47 pm
Not sure if you've heard, but Santa Pod have called off the RWYB on the 17th due to the weather.....



Yeah posted up a little while ago in the Santa Pod meet thread..  :sad1: Ill be heading down there on the 24th now..  :happy2:

More time for some more bits  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: rainking on January 11, 2010, 01:12:02 pm
Not sure if you've heard, but Santa Pod have called off the RWYB on the 17th due to the weather.....



Yeah posted up a little while ago in the Santa Pod meet thread..  :sad1: Ill be heading down there on the 24th now..  :happy2:

More time for some more bits  :laugh:

 :happy2:

They're also allowing passenger rides too in road legal cars.....  :laugh: :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: danishmkvgti on January 11, 2010, 01:43:16 pm
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KW camber adjustable top mounts

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC03310.jpg&hash=2f74bd85fd777f0a7c3feb20ee8e789418e57ae5)

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Could you help me with a link to where these are available from??  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on January 12, 2010, 02:49:30 pm
Not sure if you've heard, but Santa Pod have called off the RWYB on the 17th due to the weather.....



Yeah posted up a little while ago in the Santa Pod meet thread..  :sad1: Ill be heading down there on the 24th now..  :happy2:

More time for some more bits  :laugh:

 :happy2:

They're also allowing passenger rides too in road legal cars.....  :laugh: :driver:

Passenger = Weight  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 12, 2010, 03:27:50 pm
Passenger = Weight  :scared:

I only need 1 run to do a time though..  :happy2: Ill probably do 4 runs on the day, the first one ill do on my own then the rest probably with passengers..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 12, 2010, 04:09:55 pm
....

I notice you have reflective gold taped in the hotspot area above the turbo.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05226.jpg&hash=e9facc60ccf694e751b98e898f9ec3b79633f30a)

I can understand the reasons for gold tape under a heat shield to improve temperatures on an air intake pipe (now done on mine), but why reflect heat back from the underside of the bonnet?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on January 12, 2010, 04:24:53 pm
....

I notice you have reflective gold taped in the hotspot area above the turbo.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05226.jpg&hash=e9facc60ccf694e751b98e898f9ec3b79633f30a)

I can understand the reasons for gold tape under a heat shield to improve temperatures on an air intake pipe (now done on mine), but why reflect heat back from the underside of the bonnet?

If it's being painted white (and I seem to recall it is) I'd have thought it'll help stop the paint from discolouring? CF it's self is fairly temperature resistant I think.

Jonny, are you only going to attempt a fast time the once then?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 12, 2010, 04:32:11 pm

If it's being painted white (and I seem to recall it is) I'd have thought it'll help stop the paint from discolouring? CF it's self is fairly temperature resistant I think.


....Sorry, mate, you lost me there. What's being painted white? - Isn't it only the exterior of the carbon bonnet which may get painted? I guess you mean that the carbon bonnet will get a hot spot effecting the paint above. Mine doesn't but Jonny's turbo will probably run hotter than mine, plus my carbon bonnet has an extract vent.

Yes, CF itself has excellent heat resistance properties.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 12, 2010, 04:33:36 pm
I can understand the reasons for gold tape under a heat shield to improve temperatures on an air intake pipe (now done on mine), but why reflect heat back from the underside of the bonnet?

Basically just to avoid the carbon from getting too hot from heat given off the manifold and dump tube.. I dont really fancy having a bonnet on fire!

If it's being painted white (and I seem to recall it is) I'd have thought it'll help stop the paint from discolouring? CF it's self is fairly temperature resistant I think.

Jonny, are you only going to attempt a fast time the once then?

Yeah pretty much.. Carbon is very good at resisting heat as a material anyways but its just to be safe really..

Well pretty much depends how it goes on the first run, if it feels good then ill leave it at that really.. All of the times I have ran the car the times have been within a couple of thousandths so there really would be no point trying to chase the time if its not there in the car..

....Sorry, mate, you lost me there. What's being painted white? - Isn't it only the exterior of the carbon bonnet which may get painted? I guess you mean that the carbon bonnet will get a hot spot effecting the paint above. Mine doesn't but Jonny's turbo will probably run hotter than mine, plus my carbon bonnet has an extract vent.

Yes, CF itself has excellent heat resistance properties.

Yeah just the outside Robin..  :happy2:

Ohh and Just for fun thought I would make a little movie to give an idea of the noise this thing makes now on boost!  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fth_ED30Soundcheck.jpg&hash=6302c584c5fa6aedd47f817af195b784ac126167) (http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/jonnnny28/?action=view&current=ED30Soundcheck.flv)

Popped a huge flame from the dump tube too..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on January 12, 2010, 04:36:58 pm

If it's being painted white (and I seem to recall it is) I'd have thought it'll help stop the paint from discolouring? CF it's self is fairly temperature resistant I think.


....Sorry, mate, you lost me there. What's being painted white? - Isn't it only the exterior of the carbon bonnet which may get painted? I guess you mean that the carbon bonnet will get a hot spot effecting the paint above. Mine doesn't but Jonny's turbo will probably run hotter than mine, plus my carbon bonnet has an extract vent.

Yes, CF itself has excellent heat resistance properties.

Sorry Robin, I did mean the bonnet being painted. But you're spot on, my deduction was that it was to just to protect the bonnet and the paint the other side for exposure to excessively high temps, which could possibly discolour the paint and who knows what else - better safe than sorry! The resin is nasty stuff, best not to try your luck over heating it!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 12, 2010, 04:44:00 pm
....

@ animal:  :happy2:

@ Jonny: I don't know how worthwhile or practical it would be to add an extract vent to your carbon bonnet but I was very surprised what a difference it seems to have made to mine. Nothing done scientifically but using the palm of my hand in a variety of areas both above the bonnet and in the engine bay after some long and spirited drives, my little extract vent seems to extract any heat significantly.

To be totally honest, it was available when I was getting mine and I chose it cos I thought it looked cool and didn't expect any benefits.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 12, 2010, 05:27:30 pm
Do you know how much your turbo flows in kg/s at all?

Got some info today on the flow numbers of my turbo so thought it would be worth answering this one and adding some comparisons too..

The following numbers are max efficiency flow of the following turbo chargers in kg/s..

K03 - 0.17 kg/s (stock GTI turbo)
K04 - 0.21 kg/s (stock ED30 turbo)
K16 - 0.26 kg/s (stock TTRS / 996TT turbo)
K24 - 0.31 kg/s (stock 996 GT2 turbo)
Race GT3076R - 0.47 kg/s
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on January 12, 2010, 06:33:08 pm
All comig together rather nicely!

Out of intterest what are the performance figures of your track Aston, and how does it feel compared to the Edition 30??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 12, 2010, 07:05:40 pm
All comig together rather nicely!

Out of intterest what are the performance figures of your track Aston, and how does it feel compared to the Edition 30??

Cheers mate..  :smiley:

I get asked this quite a bit and really to be honest, you simply can't compare.. No matter how fast a road car your talking about..

The Vantage GT2 was 1100kg / 500hp with downforce and proper geometry etc.. Its a proper racing car, and comparing ANY road car to even a GT2 spec car is pointless really, there is simply no comparison in terms of performance..

We made the step up to LMP1 using the Lola Coupe with a Judd V10 for the last 3 rounds of 2009 and that car is simply astonishingly fast.. 900kg / 750hp with full downforce (more than modern F1 cars) its just incredible..

The only way to kind of put it into context really is to talk of lap times.. For instance..

The current fastest lap round the Top gear track for a road car is a 1:17.1 from the Gumpert Apollo..

When AMR took the GT1 DBR9 to the Top Gear track it did a 1:08.6 (and was running with problems on the day)

Around an average lap an LMP1 car is around 10 seconds faster than a GT1 car (depending on the length of the lap).. So it would be comfortably in the 50 second range.. So yeah, quick! haha..  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 12, 2010, 07:09:29 pm
well quickish, its no skoda :laugh:.



Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 12, 2010, 07:42:30 pm
All comig together rather nicely!

Out of intterest what are the performance figures of your track Aston, and how does it feel compared to the Edition 30??

Cheers mate..  :smiley:

I get asked this quite a bit and really to be honest, you simply can't compare.. No matter how fast a road car your talking about..

The Vantage GT2 was 1100kg / 500hp with downforce and proper geometry etc.. Its a proper racing car, and comparing ANY road car to even a GT2 spec car is pointless really, there is simply no comparison in terms of performance..

We made the step up to LMP1 using the Lola Coupe with a Judd V10 for the last 3 rounds of 2009 and that car is simply astonishingly fast.. 900kg / 750hp with full downforce (more than modern F1 cars) its just incredible..

The only way to kind of put it into context really is to talk of lap times.. For instance..

The current fastest lap round the Top gear track for a road car is a 1:17.1 from the Gumpert Apollo..

When AMR took the GT1 DBR9 to the Top Gear track it did a 1:08.6 (and was running with problems on the day)

Around an average lap an LMP1 car is around 10 seconds faster than a GT1 car (depending on the length of the lap).. So it would be comfortably in the 50 second range.. So yeah, quick! haha..  :laugh:
Interesting read that mate and just shows you the difference between a fast car and a really FAST car.. :notworthy:
I rememeber this vid well, simply awesome...

It's not you playing the stig is it?  :confused: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: SKAVIA on January 12, 2010, 07:58:05 pm

Ohh and Just for fun thought I would make a little movie to give an idea of the noise this thing makes now on boost!  :wink:


Fc*kin hell!
I want that as my ringtone!!! :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 12, 2010, 08:06:24 pm
Sounds awful doesn't it?  :laugh:

Oh 100 pages.. Nice thread Mr Cocker..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 12, 2010, 08:09:56 pm
Sounds awful doesn't it?  :laugh:

Oh 100 pages.. Nice thread Mr Cocker..  :happy2:

Ha the R9 sounds amazing for sure!!

Ohh woooo.. Do I get a prize?  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: davv on January 15, 2010, 11:24:46 am
Sounds awful doesn't it?  :laugh:



Oh 100 pages.. Nice thread Mr Cocker..  :happy2:

a hot conversation :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: davv on January 15, 2010, 11:34:21 am
what turbo are you going to be using ?

i hear mrc are using a gt30 and getting 450 on a afaik std e30 engine

Im already using a GT3076R turbo by Owen developments.. All of the turbo kit hardware is already up and running and on the car.. Cant think what page now but the build is in here somewhere..  :smiley:

MRC are using a stock 3071R yeah, 450hp is about the limit of that turbo with the exhaust housing that there using.. The turbo im using will make 600hp no problems on this motor..
  :jumping: 600 hp... so why you've chosen FWD car fo that ambitious plans? :popcornsoda:

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on January 15, 2010, 02:22:37 pm
what turbo are you going to be using ?

i hear mrc are using a gt30 and getting 450 on a afaik std e30 engine

Im already using a GT3076R turbo by Owen developments.. All of the turbo kit hardware is already up and running and on the car.. Cant think what page now but the build is in here somewhere..  :smiley:

MRC are using a stock 3071R yeah, 450hp is about the limit of that turbo with the exhaust housing that there using.. The turbo im using will make 600hp no problems on this motor..
  :jumping: 600 hp... so why you've chosen FWD car fo that ambitious plans? :popcornsoda:



oohh man......
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: animal on January 15, 2010, 03:59:41 pm
what turbo are you going to be using ?

i hear mrc are using a gt30 and getting 450 on a afaik std e30 engine

Im already using a GT3076R turbo by Owen developments.. All of the turbo kit hardware is already up and running and on the car.. Cant think what page now but the build is in here somewhere..  :smiley:

MRC are using a stock 3071R yeah, 450hp is about the limit of that turbo with the exhaust housing that there using.. The turbo im using will make 600hp no problems on this motor..
  :jumping: 600 hp... so why you've chosen FWD car fo that ambitious plans? :popcornsoda:



oohh man......

ditto...
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on January 19, 2010, 03:42:28 pm
Any more updates?

Santa Pod this sunday?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 19, 2010, 03:52:51 pm
:jumping: 600 hp... so why you've chosen FWD car fo that ambitious plans? :popcornsoda:

Thats very much the end goal, and it is very possible to make it work.. Going for N/A type power delivery, with relatively low torque on set and peak power around the 8500rpm mark.. Super progressive, max torque around 400ft/lbs will make for a super driveable car but at the same time super fast when you rev it out..

Thats basically how the Turbo B16/B18/K20 Honda guys run such incredible times.. Lots of Civics in the states run mid to low 9's with FWD.. Theres more to it than just adding huge power and expecting to have a fast car as a result.. I know thats what some people think im doing, but its really not..

Any more updates?

Santa Pod this sunday?

The car is having a very busy week thats all im saying..  :happy2: :happy2:


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on January 19, 2010, 03:56:15 pm

The car is having a very busy week thats all im saying..  :happy2: :happy2:




Come on Jonny you can't leave us with that.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 19, 2010, 04:05:10 pm
Come on Jonny you can't leave us with that.  :laugh:

 :booty:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on January 19, 2010, 04:24:34 pm
Come on Jonny you can't leave us with that.  :laugh:

 :booty:


 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 19, 2010, 04:25:05 pm
Come on Jonny you can't leave us with that.  :laugh:

 :booty:


 :popcornsoda:

Ill get a big update up on Friday  :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on January 19, 2010, 04:26:45 pm
Ill get a big update up on Friday  :happy2: :happy2:

Nice one.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 19, 2010, 05:32:52 pm
Ahhh, at last, something to look forward to at the end of the week, other than the fact that it is the weekend.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2010, 10:21:50 am
Ok bit of a teaser..

6 weeks and well worth the wait!!!!  :wink: They actually look A LOT different to the 1.2 especially when side by side..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fimage-1.jpg&hash=a2956213326b994817adca8526e770de8310946c)

Little bit wide!!  :grin:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fimage-1-1.jpg&hash=95816f3a61a272a8fef61aed5e82dab4cf76579c)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on January 21, 2010, 10:23:45 am
So what size are they Jonny?
We talked to the Team Dynamics people on Saturday and I seem to remember the 1.3's were only in 8.5".  :surprised:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on January 21, 2010, 10:24:51 am
excuse my ignorance jonny, are those different to the 1.2s?

i only ask because i nearly bought some 1.2s and smoothed out the "team dynamics" on the rim. thats just what i wanted.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on January 21, 2010, 10:25:56 am
If you speak to Team Dynamics Jay they will build you a wheel how you want, lettering, no lettering, etc.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 21, 2010, 10:26:36 am
just so u know guys vwr now sell team dynamics without the name on the face of them so if you want some give Mat a call at vwr  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2010, 10:28:21 am
So what size are they Jonny?
We talked to the Team Dynamics people on Saturday and I seem to remember the 1.3's were only in 8.5".  :surprised:

There 1.3's.. So a completely different wheel to the 1.2's..

Specs are 18 x 8.5 with a 255/35/18 R888 tyre fitted.. There huge!! Seriously.. a 255 R888 is more like a 275 width "normal" tyre.. Its going to be fun getting them on lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: VC on January 21, 2010, 11:29:56 am
i need to sit down with a box of jaffa cakes and do some serious catching up on this thread  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 21, 2010, 02:31:10 pm
Looking good those wheelz Jonny :happy2:

255 section is going to be tight in there that's for sure
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2010, 03:34:25 pm
Looking good those wheelz Jonny :happy2:

255 section is going to be tight in there that's for sure


Really like them a lot!! Just going to try and test fit now and see how much I need to do to get them on here!! Wish me luck..  :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 21, 2010, 04:03:13 pm
Really like them a lot!! Just going to try and test fit now and see how much I need to do to get them on here!! Wish me luck..  :scared:

Mate, you know where I am if you need me?  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg12.imageshack.us%2Fimg12%2F7358%2Fagm.gif&hash=6a40215612b1456f8b1435e0d9b3f2aea60cefa7) (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/agm.gif/)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: revo carl on January 21, 2010, 04:32:01 pm
1.3's in black are stunning dude  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on January 21, 2010, 05:13:33 pm


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fimage-1.jpg&hash=a2956213326b994817adca8526e770de8310946c)



having seen TD's in various colours, i think black is best by far. They should look superb on the car.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2010, 05:43:25 pm
Mate, you know where I am if you need me?  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg12.imageshack.us%2Fimg12%2F7358%2Fagm.gif&hash=6a40215612b1456f8b1435e0d9b3f2aea60cefa7) (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/agm.gif/)

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

Well.. I have two wheels on the car, and its looking like its going to be fine.. Seriously.. Im pretty shocked to be honest!!  :laugh:

As you know I went for an ET50 wheel which I expected to be a little much, so bought some 1mm and 3mm shims to space out the wheel if necessary!

Its dark here (and my car is about as dirty as it has ever been in its whole life) so excuse the pics..  :ashamed:

Front end..

I have about 2mm to the strut from the tyre at the moment, its super close, but there is clearance.. And to the arch its looking ok, about 3mm when the car is loaded up.. (tested with the jumping up and down on the car technique)  :grin:

Here is a pic of how it looks currently.. (again please excuse the mess that the car is in at the mo)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05387.jpg&hash=687d784e1617606b558926730346642f69787fac)

New brakes making a cheeky little appearance too!!  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05388.jpg&hash=b0318a5281f4626ccb8b28539807b0c125c843b4)

So just a few bits to do to get the front end sorted out..


All of this should make it perfect, and I dont think Ill have any problems with rubbing at all!

Rear end..

Im already running 2.5 degrees negative camber on the rear, so have a little more clearance anyways.. And there is more room from the wheel to the strut on the rear so fitting was fine. Im just simply going to raise the rear 5mm to match the front and all should be ok!

It clears the arch by about 1.5mm, its very close, but importantly it does clear..  :smiley:

This picture kind of highlights just how much more tyre I have on the car now!!  :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: Who said it couldn't be done..  :wink:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05390.jpg&hash=d71654cecf8f78a08fafacc3dc877becbedcad66)

Tomorrow it should all be sorted and ill let you know how it feels!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 21, 2010, 06:24:24 pm
Good News! I can't wait to see it with all four on, I have a feeling it is going to look rather sweet  :drool:

Now go and clean it you scruffy git!  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 21, 2010, 06:25:18 pm
....

Those new TD's look so much more elegant than their previous ones. And, most importantly they'll be lighter weight.  

:notworthy:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2010, 06:29:14 pm
....

Those new TD's look so much more elegant than their previous ones. And, most importantly they'll be lighter weight.  

:notworthy:

Couldn't agree more.. Certainly a nicer look! And they do them in 18x10 too.. Which is the next goal.. Along with a set of 285's  :grin:

And so it continues.. :scared:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on January 21, 2010, 06:48:19 pm
....

Those new TD's look so much more elegant than their previous ones. And, most importantly they'll be lighter weight. 

:notworthy:

Couldn't agree more.. Certainly a nicer look!


....They even almost look as good as the OZ Alleggerita's  :evilgrin:  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2010, 07:08:05 pm
Almost yeah..  :booty: :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 21, 2010, 07:59:14 pm
Nice update mate, keep the updates coming. Is everything still on for the pod? might come down from yorkshire to watch it go  :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 21, 2010, 08:29:23 pm
Nice update mate, keep the updates coming. Is everything still on for the pod? might come down from yorkshire to watch it go  :jumping:

Yup! Just have to hope for a dry day now really.. And if you drive all that way you can't just watch  :happy2:

Going to try my best and over the next couple of days get a load more done to the car.. Things have been delayed recently due to scum bags breaking into the garage..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on January 22, 2010, 08:00:03 am
Nice update mate, keep the updates coming. Is everything still on for the pod? might come down from yorkshire to watch it go  :jumping:

Things have been delayed recently due to scum bags breaking into the garage..

did they take much ?? :sad1: or do you think they were after the car? cant beleive some people!!! but wow those wheels look wide. very smart jonny  :innocent:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2010, 07:39:30 pm
did they take much ?? :sad1: or do you think they were after the car? cant beleive some people!!! but wow those wheels look wide. very smart jonny  :innocent:

Sorry, I meant the work shop.. I had loads of parts there but amazingly nothing of mine (apart from some small parts) were stolen..

Update..

So managed to get a little more done on the car today in preparation for Santa Pod on 24th..

New wheels arrived and looked like they may turn out to be an absolute nightmare to fit.. They do look awesome however, the new Pro Race 1.3 is quite a different design to the 1.2.. Only really noticeable when the two are side by side..

The wheels were made to order and the specs are as follows..

Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.3 in Satin Black - 18 x 8.5 / 5 X 112 / ET50 / 57.1

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fimage-1.jpg&hash=a2956213326b994817adca8526e770de8310946c)

Tyres are super fat.. Toyo R888 - 255 / 35 / 18

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2Fimage-1-1.jpg&hash=95816f3a61a272a8fef61aed5e82dab4cf76579c)

I test fitted the wheels this morning and everything looked ok really, the clearance from the strut to the tyre on the front is around 2mm and at the rear about 4mm.. Clearance from the tyre to the arch at the front is about 3mm and the rear about 3mm again.. So to say that they JUST fit is an understatement!!

Anyways this is how they look on the car..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05404.jpg&hash=f1c92d90539f7b3b2f43657475f8e23c13ca2fe3)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05400.jpg&hash=a218b4686fc2cf0c0cc2eb77bcc440decc424be5)

Before the first drive I lightly painted the inner side walls of the tyres with white paint to help look for any signs of rubbing on the strut front and rear, came back and everything was ok.. Its VERY close, but importantly no rubbing what so ever..

Just to give an idea on grip levels.. I can now PLANT the throttle in 3rd gear in the wet where as before with the 225 / 40 T1-R's I couldn't even do that in the dry.. Traction is pretty incredible..

Bare in mind this is with stock top mounts at the front, but lots of work on the arches all round, so clearance will only improve once I dial in a little more camber on the front end.. Carefully specced offset / width and arch work and its possible.. I really think that an 18x9 with a 265 would work, but it would require the camber on the front end for sure, and more arch rolling / pulling..

Next goal is to fit 18x10 with a 285 tyre..  :happy2:

The VW Racing brakes are now installed and feel amazing as were the last set I had.. Also look amazing behind the new wheels!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05403.jpg&hash=95a884eb21994a34b59cff21bb0204f2c76aa411)

Then it was time to get some weight out of the car..

First of all the carbon bonnet was fitted.. Saving 14kg over the standard item..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05402.jpg&hash=cf8223a2ad7225e40bef7a86118b0a84861eecf6)

And then the rear was stripped down..

A total of 35kg came out the car (using a cunning method of weighing it all)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0784.jpg&hash=85b7a9272c002a78cb7bf9e19ce0f2d093e49252)

Which leaves the cars interior looking like this at the moment..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05407.jpg&hash=200486b10d2052ec78b70fc590a5c3c6450d0ae9)

Based on the last time the car was on scales and how much more I have taken out since the weight should be at 1175kg with a total of 226kg already out the car!!! I have calculated that there is another 140+kg to come off the total weight of the car, which would bring me very close to my 1000kg target

So! Santa Pod on 24th this Sunday.. If its a dry day the car should go well.. Place your bets on times!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on January 22, 2010, 07:45:38 pm
Never mind p!ssing around with the interior! get that intake sorted  :P :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 22, 2010, 08:02:43 pm
Never mind p!ssing around with the interior! get that intake sorted  :P :P

 :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 22, 2010, 11:27:42 pm
a 1 tonne car with 500+bhp - now that is going to be mental :rolleye: :driver:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: rubber toe on January 23, 2010, 09:33:30 am
 :congrats: very nice work

looking forward to hearing the times from the pod  :popcornsoda:
just hope its dry so you can get the best times possible :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 23, 2010, 10:50:34 am
are you going to go into the realms of replacing the rear windows with some lightweight acrylic, must be a lot of weight to lose there, the car is 3 door as well so the rear quarters could be done as well
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 23, 2010, 11:49:51 am
are you going to go into the realms of replacing the rear windows with some lightweight acrylic, must be a lot of weight to lose there, the car is 3 door as well so the rear quarters could be done as well

The plans are 'extensive' put it that way..  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on January 23, 2010, 12:52:23 pm
I seem to remember talk of replacing the boot before.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on January 23, 2010, 01:49:43 pm
Depending on what 60ft times you get mate, I wouldn't be suprised at all if you run a 11. Let's say 11.8 @ 124mph  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on January 23, 2010, 03:33:28 pm
Wheels look really good, is there much more weight saving over the turinis? still going to get them for mine but leave them silver
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 24, 2010, 08:08:54 pm
Wheels look really good, is there much more weight saving over the turinis? still going to get them for mine but leave them silver

Hmm, weight is actually very close between the two, but bare in mind the 1.3's are a 1/2" wider, which makes them a little heavier than the Speedlines at 8" wide.. So like for like, they would be a touch lighter I think..

Turini's are a lovely wheel and suit the S3 down to the ground!!

Also, just to keep this thread up to date..

Well apart from a catch up with a few guys today was a total waste of time in my opinion.. The track was a joke.. Really.. I can't believe I had to pay to drive on that 'track'

Last night I was able to put 100% of the power down in 2nd gear on a dry road, yet at the 'glued' track today the car was lighting up the tyres in 4th gear!! Hell.. It didn't even do that in the wet driving back home tonight..

What really got me though was the dusty service road which you had to use to drive back from the strip to the pits I could also plant the power down in 2nd gear.. Maybes they mistook the 'glue' for baby oil!? Who knows.. I blame the man with no teeth

Consequently all I managed was a pretty disappointing 12.91 @ 119mph..

The terminal speed was promising though.. Faster than a 997 turbo which was running around 113 - 115mph and a new R35 GTR which was about the same, both of which had plenty of runs.. So at least I know she's got plenty of grunt!! With a decent track im now really confident of a mid 11 second run.. Not bad when you consider im only running just a tad over 20psi of boost..

Oh well.. I certainly wont be visiting Santa Pod again after today.. My next day will be at York Raceway.. 150 miles closer and hopefully at least as much grip as the bloody public road!!

Ill post some pics and video's from today as soon as I can..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on January 24, 2010, 08:22:53 pm
Bad workman Bad tools springs to mind  :signLOL:

Just kidding :)

I would take solace in the fact you have a Golf that has a higher terminal speed than a Nissan GT-R

Decent track etc then maybe you will achieve your goal.

If you want some lessons in how to drive in the wet though just give me a shout  :evilgrin:

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 24, 2010, 08:26:47 pm
Bad workman Bad tools springs to mind  :signLOL:

Just kidding :)

I would take solace in the fact you have a Golf that has a higher terminal speed than a Nissan GT-R

Decent track etc then maybe you will achieve your goal.

If you want some lessons in how to drive in the wet though just give me a shout  :evilgrin:

Carl :happy2:

 :happy2: :grin: I think lessons on ice driving may come in more useful!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 24, 2010, 08:34:29 pm
was it that bad down there ?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 24, 2010, 08:36:00 pm
was it that bad down there ?

Complete joke mate.. Seriously.. I had more grip in the p*ssing it down rain on the way home.. 3rd gear full power no problem.. At the Track, 4th gear wheel spin at 100mph.. Complete waste of time
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on January 24, 2010, 08:41:31 pm
 :sad1: give it a few months for it to heat up a little and then a trip down to york and see how it goes there save the long trip down to pod
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 24, 2010, 08:43:57 pm
:sad1: give it a few months for it to heat up a little and then a trip down to york and see how it goes there save the long trip down to pod

Yup, thats the plan  :smiley: Should have built motor and the car basically done by then too.. If its still in the 12's then its either being sold or dropped off the edge of a cliff depending on how im feeling..  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 24, 2010, 11:52:32 pm
:sad1: give it a few months for it to heat up a little and then a trip down to york and see how it goes there save the long trip down to pod

Yup, thats the plan  :smiley: Should have built motor and the car basically done by then too.. If its still in the 12's then its either being sold or dropped off the edge of a cliff depending on how im feeling..  :wink:

Nah, I can't see it still being in the 12's Jonny. If you managed a 119mph and were still spinning the wheels at 100mph that tells me that you'd be easily over the 124mph in the dry that you'd need in a FWD car to hit the 11's . :happy2:

The figs below were taken from www.letstorquebhp.com

Power at Flywheel (BHP) :  460
Weight without Driver (KG) :  1150
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :  406.42
0 - 60 (Secs) :  4.06
0 - 100 (Secs) :  8.27
60 - 100 (Secs) :  4.21
Quarter Mile (Secs) :  12.20
Terminal Speed (MPH) :  121.43
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :  12.00
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :  123.67
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: mjp on January 25, 2010, 09:57:19 am
well done jc...still an achievement to run in the 12s...i am sure you gonna run a low 11s soon...
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 25, 2010, 08:05:43 pm
well done jc...still an achievement to run in the 12s...i am sure you gonna run a low 11s soon...

:happy2: Car goes in tomorrow for another load of bits, new coil packs / MAF / MAP as there is a slight hesitation, so want to get to the bottom of that.. A little more weight saving and (hopefully) new intake and going to try a little more boost..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 25, 2010, 08:21:15 pm
i thought you had already done the MAF. also what is MAP, ive seen this mentioned a few times when it comes to water meth controlment signals etc
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on January 25, 2010, 08:22:43 pm
Any timeline for when you'll be having the rods and pistons dropped in?
Luke.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 25, 2010, 09:19:45 pm
MAP - Manifold Absolute Pressure, map sensor readings are used to calculate air density which in turn calculates air flow and is then used to regulate fuelling.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on January 25, 2010, 09:34:00 pm
i thought you had already done the MAF. also what is MAP, ive seen this mentioned a few times when it comes to water meth controlment signals etc

its the sensor in the TB pipe from IC to TB.

ECU is clever u see...uses MAF to read airflow pre turbo...then MAP to check again before Intake Manifold...then uses Lambda probe to check mixture on exit!

If all is good..u get the full beans. If its bit off..u get limp mode!   :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 25, 2010, 09:52:51 pm
cheers to DOMT and chungster. might look into the same as well then
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on January 25, 2010, 09:57:17 pm
If all is good..u get the full beans. If its bit off..u get limp mode!   :grin:

Sort of. You can run with the MAF disconnected and still get 'the beans'.  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 07:35:59 pm
Ill get a proper update up on Tuesday but heres a little teaser..  :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0801.jpg&hash=cdbcdb81bac4292c64a58ba7c623fce822a95717)

And yes, big flames every time it either hits traction control or changes gear..  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on January 28, 2010, 07:41:57 pm
Titanium Jonny?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: QD MBE on January 28, 2010, 07:44:06 pm
Ill get a proper update up on Tuesday but heres a little teaser..  :laugh:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0801.jpg&hash=cdbcdb81bac4292c64a58ba7c623fce822a95717)

And yes, big flames every time it either hits traction control or changes gear..  :grin:

Genuine question - Is that legal?

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 07:49:37 pm
Titanium Jonny?

Just stainless mate..

Is that legal?

'Providing the exhaust exits behind the line of the front set of wheels and not on the pavement side there is no offence' was the response I got from a Police Traffic officer friend of mine..

Lets hope no one is sad enough to complain about it though hey..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: QD MBE on January 28, 2010, 07:51:44 pm
Titanium Jonny?

Just stainless mate..

Is that legal?

'Providing the exhaust exits behind the line of the front set of wheels and not on the pavement side there is no offence' was the response I got from a Police Traffic officer friend of mine..

Lets hope no one is sad enough to complain about it though hey..  :smiley:

Totally, was just thinking that peds ,may not like a free singeing...................
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: QD MBE on January 28, 2010, 07:52:53 pm
Talking of that, I have seen Ricers with exhausts that exit in front of the offside front wheel.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 07:55:53 pm
Totally, was just thinking that peds ,may not like a free singeing...................

Talking of that, I have seen Ricers with exhausts that exit in front of the offside front wheel.

Its only the dump tube, so you only have any exhaust exiting after 1.0 bar of boost is created by the turbo (as its fitted with a 1.0 bar spring) So its very easy to drive around without it ever opening..

So unless your driving round like a complete tool it will never be open in anything other than non pedestrianized areas..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 28, 2010, 08:01:26 pm
Oh jonny  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on January 28, 2010, 08:07:32 pm
Oh Damn!!!  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gillm on January 28, 2010, 08:12:28 pm
screamer pipe . liking that , you will have to post up a clip
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 08:27:22 pm
screamer pipe . liking that , you will have to post up a clip

Haha, its mental!!! Ill try, sounds very different now compared to when it was directed to the floor.. Louder outside, but quieter inside the car.. Much more aggressive sound!!

Ill try yeah, dont know if the camera will pick up on the flames though..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on January 28, 2010, 08:34:22 pm
re the legality.....

some Time Attack "road legal" cars have exhausts exiting forward of the front wheel on passenger side...

you're more likely to brech the "noise" limit when at full boost i'd say. still if they can catch u when its screaming at full boost and take a noise reading then fair play to that copper  :wink:  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 08:35:38 pm
re the legality.....

some Time Attack "road legal" cars have exhausts exiting forward of the front wheel on passenger side...

you're more likely to brech the "noise" limit when at full boost i'd say. still if they can catch u when its screaming at full boost and take a noise reading then fair play to that copper  :wink:  :signLOL:

Ill just tell them its a snorkel..  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on January 28, 2010, 08:38:04 pm
still sticking with exiting the bonnet yeah?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on January 28, 2010, 08:38:25 pm
re the legality.....

some Time Attack "road legal" cars have exhausts exiting forward of the front wheel on passenger side...

you're more likely to brech the "noise" limit when at full boost i'd say. still if they can catch u when its screaming at full boost and take a noise reading then fair play to that copper  :wink:  :signLOL:

Ill just tell them its a snorkel..  :happy2:
Hahahaha, and then you would probably be in deep water  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 08:57:41 pm
still sticking with exiting the bonnet yeah?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0807.jpg&hash=694d4d2d4f1ba7b11cdbaf21363db8cf6b36a603)

No going back now  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on January 28, 2010, 09:09:30 pm
still sticking with exiting the bonnet yeah?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0807.jpg&hash=694d4d2d4f1ba7b11cdbaf21363db8cf6b36a603)



^^ Is that NeilM with his dremel again :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on January 28, 2010, 09:53:22 pm
very nice  :happy2: thatll be fun seeing it going down the pod on each change  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: KRL on January 28, 2010, 10:23:05 pm
 :signLOL:

Looks cool.  So what what exactly will this do and what benefits will it bring?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on January 28, 2010, 10:40:23 pm
:signLOL:

Looks cool.  So what what exactly will this do and what benefits will it bring?

1. Make me laugh..

2. See above  :smiley:

 :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on January 28, 2010, 11:32:53 pm
:signLOL:

Looks cool.  So what what exactly will this do and what benefits will it bring?

1. Make me laugh..

2. See above  :smiley:

 :pomppomp:



I can't fault that ethos :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 02, 2010, 08:00:54 pm
Update.. (Bit of a big one this time round)

Ok so some more bits sorted now.. The car is really starting to get there now!!

MAF / MAP / Coil packs were all replaced in the attempt to track down an issue which I had been struggling with where at high revs the car is backing off.. Almost like loosing spark etc..

Turns out the car has been fitted with the wrong coil packs from the factory all along.. The coil packs as fitted to the car were infact for a non turbo motor, its surprising its ever ran right to be honest!! And pretty bad quality control that it slipped through at the factory..

Anyways, with the proper coils in, the car is now running much better!! Pheww..

Now for the fun stuff anyways!!!

All of the following pretty much was to run the bonnet exit dump tube, quite a lot of work, but well worth it, the sound is simply incredible and at night it all gets very colourful! haha..

So first of all I needed my new intake, as the dump tube will exit where a standard aftermarket intake would be placed the only option was to run the filter on the RHS of the engine bay behind the headlight..

Mocked up before being welded up..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0700.jpg&hash=a6437e44408d27dc8a1f5e6da5ff149895ae7c21)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0699.jpg&hash=64b9bf7979b47a3891c74ff08a7dd7215c87bd09)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0698.jpg&hash=ec1dd323f0ec801b7ef646aa11114c8fac2943d6)

Test fit after being welded, DV recirc bung etc..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0803.jpg&hash=a8d7f015a624dd1d690031c584128a6188c233d6)

Because the filter sits over the RHS of the engine bay I needed to have the catch can re positioned..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0841.jpg&hash=d0ecf439658e62de7b823ddadae8c77cd5943b70)

Intake back off the car, rubbed down then primed for paint..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0844.jpg&hash=d27705e88fce8c4864d0e2d7693428d0de929b54)

And then pained satin black with heat protection added for the bend close to the manifold..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0850.jpg&hash=d13ca5e1c61fe89997fc508e29537132f04f1dea)

Now for the dump tube!! The old bottom exit dump was dropped off and the two Andys set off fabricating the new tube..

"The purple pedestrian pleaser"

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0798.jpg&hash=5f05fbd24b09ae139457bfb1c1f0d766c973a181)

Andy doing what he does best! ha..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0848.jpg&hash=d6fcd83ad6f5a278a9d5b9b58c11e5ecc96b3961)

And the mocked up dump tube..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0801.jpg&hash=cdbcdb81bac4292c64a58ba7c623fce822a95717)

First test fit on the car.. (You can also see the intake pre paint here)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0804.jpg&hash=e3309e5f5de3bd3d0d57c2ddb985a7d58dc5d53a)

While everything was off I wrapped a couple of hoses etc which run close to the manifold to prevent any issue with over heating.. (Also an excuse for some more pics of the manifold)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_999.jpg&hash=60bee9b5a4b8eb8330f741a928ec223a8d7e4941)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0842.jpg&hash=15da2f525ff2c0d3192dbec4aa3fb5ca83092271)

Next Andy needed to work on the bonnet to get the hole for the dump to exit from.. (as you can imagine not the easiest of jobs doing this to a £1k bonnet lol)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0807.jpg&hash=694d4d2d4f1ba7b11cdbaf21363db8cf6b36a603)

After a little bit of work!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0843.jpg&hash=c109e21c0b19768ffeac81aac60a91c9dc1f1868)

Once that was done then the dump tube was cut to size.. It now sits just 5mm above the top of the bonnet, perfect!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0806.jpg&hash=ed5e7890f10d30c1f15a8d064dce616d133f8373)

The dump tube then came off the car to be finished off.. Wrapped in super high temp exhaust wrap and the tip painted satin black for the stealth look!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0839.jpg&hash=e2fa8fce583b91930e2450fb16a260debbdebcad)

And then the intake and dump tube on the car for the final fitting, getting everything lined up and looking good!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0851.jpg&hash=74ebc9d9abd5b2b2a77afbf19904ef9ed5fd8009)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0852.jpg&hash=c3a617516337609ce9525b4ccfe813e30a9a101e)

Im really pleased with the end result.. The finish is fantastic, and the dump tube out the bonnet is just crazy!!

At night you can see a 6" constant flame exiting the tip when under full load at high revs, then on the gear change a huge burst about a foot long of flame.. Just crazy! I love it!!

Amazing work once again by the guys at ACR..!!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 02, 2010, 08:08:05 pm
 :signLOL: Thats funny as fook  :evilgrin: maybe try and fire stuff out of the tube  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on February 02, 2010, 08:11:07 pm
Now that would be funny to see a coppers face as you scream past with a foot long flame out the bonnet.

Would be a good excuse for speeding " Sorry officer i was trying to put out the fire" :evilgrin:

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: T88OMM on February 02, 2010, 08:15:50 pm
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: Just................ :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on February 02, 2010, 08:19:16 pm
Looking great Jonny.  

Just one question, what if it rains - whats to prevent water going down the tube, and what potential damage could it do - None I presume or it would be wearing a hat!?!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: snapey on February 02, 2010, 08:21:10 pm
Tonights mission is to get videos  :signLOL:

Once again dude I take my hat off to you.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: QD MBE on February 02, 2010, 08:27:40 pm
Puffing Billy!
 :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on February 02, 2010, 08:36:14 pm
Tonights mission is to get videos  :signLOL:


i absolutely second that!

Lets see some flametube action  :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: liver on February 02, 2010, 09:16:36 pm
quality once again

your work and ideas are top notch

fair play
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 02, 2010, 09:19:31 pm
Looking great Jonny.  

Just one question, what if it rains - whats to prevent water going down the tube, and what potential damage could it do - None I presume or it would be wearing a hat!?!

Ohh forgot to mention that.. The dump tube was designed such that the lowest point was in the tube and not the wastegate, and then a 3mm drain hole was drilled to let any water escape.. I found out that this worked very well this morning, the car had been parked up over the weekend with it raining/snowing lots and the first time the wastegate opened there was nothing more than some very faint vapour released..

I did get a video but the camera just doesnt pick them up.. Im going to try get a cam corder with night mode and see if that works!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Blade on February 02, 2010, 10:13:26 pm
Great work Jonny :congrats:. I,m coming over to ACR tomorrow - you around !
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 02, 2010, 10:18:23 pm
Great work Jonny :congrats:. I,m coming over to ACR tomorrow - you around !

Not unfortunately mate.. Out to make some vids now  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Blade on February 02, 2010, 10:24:15 pm
Great work Jonny :congrats:. I,m coming over to ACR tomorrow - you around !

Not unfortunately mate.. Out to make some vids now  :wink:

I can hear you :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: john_o on February 03, 2010, 07:49:31 am
mental jonny  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 10:24:57 am
So this is all that I could manage from last night.. Gives an idea but the camera just struggles to pick up on them..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0856.jpg&hash=7616367830360afc1a95da7d85892045a1e54fba)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: liver on February 03, 2010, 10:35:56 am
mental
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: prepree on February 03, 2010, 10:59:11 am
^^^ X2

Any chance of video just for the sound if anything!

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 03, 2010, 01:24:10 pm
 :signLOL: you are so going to get pulled with that  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on February 03, 2010, 02:13:53 pm
:signLOL: you are so going to get pulled with that  :signLOL:

X2  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on February 03, 2010, 03:15:30 pm
OMG!! THATS AWESOME!!

Fancy york raceways on the 4th of APRIL, easter sunday?? think im gonna pop over then, i think its the first rwyb day of the year.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Mackie1 on February 03, 2010, 03:17:05 pm
Absolutely class :congrats: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on February 03, 2010, 04:15:07 pm
OMG!! THATS AWESOME!!

Fancy york raceways on the 4th of APRIL, easter sunday?? think im gonna pop over then, i think its the first rwyb day of the year.  :smiley:

Ooooh. I think I can make that day :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 03, 2010, 04:21:55 pm
i might be up for it too in the bug  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on February 03, 2010, 04:23:00 pm
 :party: :party:

should i get something up in the meets section??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 04:23:16 pm
Nahhhh it will be fineee.. haha.. The wastegate has a 1 bar spring fitted so it wont even crack open in the slightest before that amount of boost is made, 14ish psi on this turbo will make over 350hp so you can very easily make good progress without making a big noise about it all..

OMG!! THATS AWESOME!!

Fancy york raceways on the 4th of APRIL, easter sunday?? think im gonna pop over then, i think its the first rwyb day of the year.  :smiley:

Yeah im free that weekend, hoping to get down for a run! Should have lots more done to the car before then too.. Woooo!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 04:36:57 pm
Couple of engine bay pics in proper light!!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FIMG_0863.jpg&hash=8eaebab902f7c40c7b46c0d228d7bff996adc87f)
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Still no where near done but getting there for sure!! I've got some lovely plans, should look fantastic once its all done.. No bling, just 100% purposeful..

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 03, 2010, 04:39:33 pm
looks like the engine has a hard on  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 03, 2010, 04:55:51 pm

looks like the engine has a hard on  :laugh:


....  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: Brilliant!

That vertical stack certainly looks mean and purposeful. Kinda 'Ice Road Trucker' in a way.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on February 03, 2010, 04:58:58 pm
Oh stop jizzing over your "such big plans." Blah-de-f*cking-blah!!!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 05:02:40 pm
^^^  :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on February 03, 2010, 05:38:14 pm

Yeah im free that weekend, hoping to get down for a run! Should have lots more done to the car before then too.. Woooo!

Am there at york if your off, wana see/hear this go  :evilgrin:

Great update again what is next for the beast?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 07:21:17 pm
Am there at york if your off, wana see/hear this go  :evilgrin:

Great update again what is next for the beast?

Ill be there barring something coming up between times yeah..

In terms of engine I dont really have much left to do really..

New intercooler pipe work, all done in aluminum pipe / bends with small silicone couplers, just to get rid of as much silicone as possible really.. Should improve response a little bit hopefully..

Finish up the intake heatshield, cold air feed etc etc..

Ceramic coating on the manifold / exhaust housing

New Turbo back exhaust system (this is mainly for weight) but should also free up some more power, this will also be wrapped fully

Build the motor with all the parts that I now have..

Then turn it all up and make some proper power!!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on February 03, 2010, 07:33:47 pm
You are a lunatic - That pipe is just immense!

I love it!    :congrats: :notworthy:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: QD MBE on February 03, 2010, 08:25:05 pm
Jonny,

What is the reason behind the upward Wastegate vent, rather than a vent below the car?  Interested in the reasons behind, does it assist the wastegate/ lessen the back pressure on the turbine, thereby reducing the load on the rotor?

:happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 08:28:13 pm
Jonny,

What is the reason behind the upward Wastegate vent, rather than a vent below the car?  Interested in the reasons behind, does it assist the wastegate/ lessen the back pressure on the turbine, thereby reducing the load on the rotor?

:happy2:


Nope, to be honest apart from saving a tiny bit of weight there is no advantage to it what so ever apart from its a bit of fun  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 03, 2010, 08:50:18 pm
^^^^
"a bit of fun"? - I'd say a huuuuuuge amount of fun. I'd be enjoying it and laughing so much that I'd probably find it difficult to drive.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: QD MBE on February 03, 2010, 09:10:55 pm
Jonny ,

Slap a Jonny Ribbed Tickler on it.  For the first few vents it will be ace!  F'in great Nodder on the bonnet!
 :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 09:13:11 pm
Jonny ,

Slap a Jonny Ribbed Tickler on it.  For the first few vents it will be ace!  F'in great Nodder on the bonnet!
 :grin:


HAHA!! Ill do it at York..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gillm on February 03, 2010, 09:25:27 pm
that would be great to see
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hedge on February 03, 2010, 09:40:53 pm
Jonny ,

Slap a Jonny Ribbed Tickler on it.  For the first few vents it will be ace!  F'in great Nodder on the bonnet!
 :grin:


Brings new meaning to burning rubber.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 03, 2010, 10:05:50 pm
....

I expect that any passenger who doesn't know what's going on will completely freak out and think your engine has caught fire! Better make sure the child locks are switched on.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: GTIjames on February 03, 2010, 10:26:51 pm
Nice work jonny and that engine bay really looks smart now  :happy2:

one question where did you get the pipe that runs from the forge dv to intake, stock is flimsy compared to yours

also if it makes it any cheaper I am after some aluminium intercooler pipes to connect twintercooler with stock I/C not 100% happy with the fit of the forge hoses  let us know if there is any chance of a mini group buy

Thanks
 
 :drinking:
 

Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 03, 2010, 11:11:02 pm
Nice work jonny and that engine bay really looks smart now  :happy2:

one question where did you get the pipe that runs from the forge dv to intake, stock is flimsy compared to yours

also if it makes it any cheaper I am after some aluminium intercooler pipes to connect twintercooler with stock I/C not 100% happy with the fit of the forge hoses  let us know if there is any chance of a mini group buy

Thanks
 
 :drinking:
 



From Forge.. Yeah, much better than the standard hose..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 05:29:43 pm
So finally got the car cleaned up and got a few pics.. :)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo304%2Fjonnnny28%2FDSC05447.jpg&hash=3d0623a5d32f5af5c46f2de29ce520e11c5c4bb3)
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Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 04, 2010, 05:35:43 pm
i keep looking those bonnets  :ashamed: and cant help thinking i should get one  :drool:. down there next week so  :innocent: looks spot on mate and i like the wheels  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 04, 2010, 05:47:30 pm
Those wheels look the same colour as my "Blue" pescara's :laugh:

I like them. Car looks the Nutz :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 04, 2010, 06:27:26 pm
....

Looking great, Jonny but just a small point: IIRC you were thinking of painting your bonnet white but the trouble is that it will then highlight the black hole, whereas while your bonnet is black carbon the hole is much less obvious.

You may have already considered this of course and perhaps it all looks different in real life.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 04, 2010, 06:31:27 pm
....

Looking great, Jonny but just a small point: IIRC you were thinking of painting your bonnet white but the trouble is that it will then highlight the black hole, whereas while your bonnet is black carbon the hole is much less obvious.

You may have already considered this of course and perhaps it all looks different in real life.

I have a plan for this which should mean that it stays pretty much hidden..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 04, 2010, 06:34:28 pm
just stick one of these on it
http://www.briggsirrigation.co.uk/images/pumps/exhaust-flapper.jpg
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: vRS Carl on February 04, 2010, 06:35:05 pm
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: NEWEY on February 05, 2010, 07:54:23 am
looks fantastic  :drool:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Mackie1 on February 05, 2010, 09:55:34 am
Absolutely awesome Jonny :drool: :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on February 06, 2010, 09:28:47 am
Looks mint in the pics looking forward to seein more progress, what sort of cars have you come up against which have been rather red faced after?  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 06, 2010, 04:33:11 pm
Looks mint in the pics looking forward to seein more progress, what sort of cars have you come up against which have been rather red faced after?  :signLOL:

Hmm, little bit dangerous talking about that stuff lol.. Ill just say that its VERY quick now.. Soon enough Ill be able to post a time which will show what its capable of and you can make your own assumptions from that as to how it would compare to other cars on the road..  :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on February 07, 2010, 10:22:57 pm
Jonny it would be really cool to see what your car could do at the 30-130 event on mar 14th,ben came last year and would give a really good comparison to other performance cars.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 07, 2010, 10:28:18 pm
I would love to go as I'm sure the car could run some great times but I'm away for my
first race that weekend..

If I meet up with Hurdy soon maybes we can do some times on the timing box he has..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on February 07, 2010, 10:44:41 pm
Ok no problem I'll let you know my times .
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 07, 2010, 10:48:52 pm
I would love to go as I'm sure the car could run some great times but I'm away for my
first race that weekend..

so selfish of you. we want to see how she gets on :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Oli on February 09, 2010, 06:00:22 pm
Why the sudden sale JC?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 09, 2010, 06:08:01 pm
Why the sudden sale JC?

I now have a Corsa as a daily and with being away so much this year its the sensible decision  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 09, 2010, 06:09:25 pm
Why the sudden sale JC?

I now have a Corsa as a daily and with being away so much this year its the sensible decision  :smiley:

did you just say sensible  :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on February 09, 2010, 06:20:34 pm
ill take it to the 30-130 day!  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 09, 2010, 06:33:52 pm
have i missed something are you selling the ed30???
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on February 09, 2010, 06:34:17 pm
 :scared: :sad1:
What's going on mate, surely you can't sell before you try for some times? You did the same with the s3?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Msportman on February 09, 2010, 06:44:45 pm
Why the sudden sale JC?

I now have a Corsa as a daily and with being away so much this year its the sensible decision  :smiley:

Jonnyc

I see this is another huge project Jonny....I assume you are very wealthy or have a very wealthy family or sponsors to keep spending huge amounts on your vehicles.....it all changes if you get married and have kids unless your in the top 10% of earners.
Must be nice to be able to wisk up a huge array of bits at big expense but for the average person we can only dream! This thread is a bit like reading Evo mag!!Sweet dreams...good luck with the final result.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on February 09, 2010, 06:59:23 pm
i reckon he just wants to try a GT30 on the Corsa for a laugh.......   :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on February 09, 2010, 07:02:35 pm
Unless I have missed something he also has a Corsa for a daily aswel as the ED30 (I hope so anyway) :confused:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: KRL on February 09, 2010, 07:35:06 pm
:scared: :sad1:
What's going on mate, surely you can't sell before you try for some times?

I second that!  We need some proper 1/4 mile times before you sell up man.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 09, 2010, 08:33:15 pm
:scared: :sad1:
What's going on mate, surely you can't sell before you try for some times?

I second that!  We need some proper 1/4 mile times before you sell up man.

Your more than welcome to buy it then try it out for yourself??  :wink:

Yes, I have a 1.4 Corsa SXI that ill be using as a daily until I decide what im doing..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Ryan_Evo on February 09, 2010, 08:41:20 pm
why would i want to buy a slower car  :P   :grin:

I was genuinely interested,there must be a reason why your selling up?



:scared: :sad1:
What's going on mate, surely you can't sell before you try for some times?

I second that!  We need some proper 1/4 mile times before you sell up man.

Your more than welcome to buy it then try it out for yourself??  :wink:

Yes, I have a 1.4 Corsa SXI that ill be using as a daily until I decide what im doing..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 09, 2010, 08:43:04 pm
why would i want to buy a slower car  :P   :grin:

I was genuinely interested,there must be a reason why your selling up?

What I have said, im going to be away for a lot of this year due to racing commitments etc and I have bought a cheap daily to run about in..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: JPC on February 09, 2010, 08:48:12 pm
Where's my facepalm at when I need it?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: KRL on February 09, 2010, 08:49:27 pm

Your more than welcome to buy it then try it out for yourself??  :wink:


Would love to Jonny but I can't.  Hopefully it will go to a forum member so we can keep following its progress.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 09, 2010, 09:44:40 pm
is there going to a big sale bonanze then???
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: gillm on February 09, 2010, 09:53:50 pm
shame to sell up but i get your point mate . i have 3 dubs and last year i was home for 6 weeks .






Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 09, 2010, 10:20:23 pm
Still gobsmacked, with the ammount youve spent and not even finished it before off loading it.

Good luck with the sale and trying to get what you want for it jonny.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on February 10, 2010, 07:48:09 am
Hey, Jonny  :happy2:

Sounds like you've just got yourself a nice contract for your 2010 racing season - The very best of everything is what I say  :drinking:

Have Fun but Safe Journeys but I'm sure we'll still hear from you from time to time. If you can post any links here to how you're racing is going we'd enjoy it.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: ukdub on February 10, 2010, 09:39:45 am
Shame your selling so soon after getting the car close to what you wanted.  Think you should just shrink wrap it and put it away till next year.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Msportman on February 10, 2010, 12:07:29 pm
Still gobsmacked, with the ammount youve spent and not even finished it before off loading it.

Good luck with the sale and trying to get what you want for it jonny.

He must be a lottery winner Phil or in the top 10% of earners!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 10, 2010, 12:11:06 pm
Hey, Jonny  :happy2:

Sounds like you've just got yourself a nice contract for your 2010 racing season - The very best of everything is what I say  :drinking:

Have Fun but Safe Journeys but I'm sure we'll still hear from you from time to time. If you can post any links here to how you're racing is going we'd enjoy it.

Thanks very much Robin..  :smiley:

He must be a lottery winner Phil or in the top 10% of earners!

What does it matter!!!! The car is for sale, if you would like to make me a sensible offer then you can either give me a call or send me a PM

Thanks

Jonny
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jabbalad on February 10, 2010, 03:35:19 pm
Still gobsmacked, with the ammount youve spent and not even finished it before off loading it.

Good luck with the sale and trying to get what you want for it jonny.

He must be a lottery winner Phil or in the top 10% of earners!

Not being funny, but that's a bit of a rude thing to say...

Good luck with the sale dude, shame you not keeping it tho i was looking forward to seeing it all finished off!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on February 10, 2010, 03:54:58 pm
Still gobsmacked, with the ammount youve spent and not even finished it before off loading it.

Good luck with the sale and trying to get what you want for it jonny.

He must be a lottery winner Phil or in the top 10% of earners!

 :confused: :fighting2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on February 10, 2010, 08:50:13 pm
Will be sad to see it go hope the new owner looks after this better than when you sold the S3, good luck with the racing season & am sure youll be onto bigger & better things. Pm me and tell me what your thinking of next  :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Edition30 on February 11, 2010, 05:34:45 pm
I'm hoping it will be something I previously suggested  :evilgrin: :evilgrin:


Good luck with the sale, so sad to see it go without getting the 1/4 mile figures you were after but I understand why and it's the sensible option. Good luck with the racing and I have also posted your advert up on Facebook for the world to see (or my friends at least).
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on February 11, 2010, 09:51:03 pm
does that mean you have a nice stack dash for sale  :drool: , cant see the car hanging around long at that price , im the same as you johny , spend loads of money on cars and then sell them, as long as you enjoy doing it thats all that matters , which obviously you do, good luck with the sale .... if i had 21k spare i would of had it  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 11, 2010, 09:58:45 pm
does that mean you have a nice stack dash for sale  :drool: , cant see the car hanging around long at that price , im the same as you johny , spend loads of money on cars and then sell them, as long as you enjoy doing it thats all that matters , which obviously you do, good luck with the sale .... if i had 21k spare i would of had it  :happy2:

Yep, all good fun.. And I know its maybes hard for some to understand but thats what its all about  :smiley:

Ohh and its up for 24 mate  :wink: haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on February 12, 2010, 09:05:55 pm
did u put the car on a dyno then to see what numbers it would make (just been on vortex)  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: nick-barnes07 on February 20, 2010, 09:52:45 pm
shame your selling the car , was a good thread
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil_T on February 21, 2010, 09:59:51 am
How you know that? thought he was keeping the run around till after race season?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 21, 2010, 11:53:57 am
Could we please keep this thread for the ED30..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 21, 2010, 06:45:13 pm
Sorry if ive missed it Jonny, but why has it not been on the rollers? I thought that would be the first thing you would of done.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 21, 2010, 06:47:50 pm
Sorry if ive missed it Jonny, but why has it not been on the rollers? I thought that would be the first thing you would of done.

Not really bothered by figures to be honest mate, they only end up being speculative in the end anyways.. And most look at only the peaks and not the area under the curve..

Im quite satisfied with how fast it is, and thats what its all about after all..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 94Luke on February 21, 2010, 06:48:16 pm
Are you still selling it/managed to sell it?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 21, 2010, 06:49:02 pm
Are you still selling it/managed to sell it?

Still currently for sale.. Lots of 'interest'
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 22, 2010, 10:03:56 am
Sorry if ive missed it Jonny, but why has it not been on the rollers? I thought that would be the first thing you would of done.

Not really bothered by figures to be honest mate, they only end up being speculative in the end anyways.. And most look at only the peaks and not the area under the curve..

Im quite satisfied with how fast it is, and thats what its all about after all..

The Revo stage 4, was it a custom map tuned to your car, being the first of its kind(?). Was it tuned on the rollers? I am interested to compare the spool times and curve etc, if you have any details.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 22, 2010, 10:05:33 am
I wonder if Jonny's dsg clutch pack was showing any signs of needing a beef'd up version with all that torque??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 22, 2010, 10:12:55 am
The Revo stage 4, was it a custom map tuned to your car, being the first of its kind(?). Was it tuned :popcornsoda: on the rollers? I am interested to compare the spool times and curve etc, if you have any details.

Nope, stage 4 is designed around rs4 injectors, gt3071r and a cast ATP manifold.. Mine flows much better and because of the turbo spec the spool is amazing.. 1 bar at 3250rpm.. Which I think youll agree is pretty impressive for a turbo which can flow over 600hp on this engine!!

I wonder if Jonny's dsg clutch pack was showing any signs of needing a beef'd up version with all that torque??

And that's why I'm selling it??!!...

Luckily for the next owner I'm not that type of person, and the car runs perfectly! I have never had a single issue with the DSG box at all.. Mainly because it's been looked after.. Yes it's running lots more power and torque than was intended but not even a hickup!!

Your more than welcome to come down for a demo..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: DanGB on February 22, 2010, 11:25:06 am
Where are you based Jonny?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 22, 2010, 11:25:55 am
Where are you based Jonny?

Ill send you a PM mate..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Blade on February 22, 2010, 12:16:03 pm
Where are you based Jonny?

If you come and stay where i first recommended your only a few miles away from Jonny.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poverty on February 22, 2010, 11:01:32 pm
I wonder if Jonny's dsg clutch pack was showing any signs of needing a beef'd up version with all that torque??

uprated dsg clutches have been developed. Cost around 1200 USD.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 23, 2010, 04:44:38 pm
I know :wink:

Pricey for a clutch though
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 23, 2010, 05:34:05 pm
Just to confirm, mine is running on standard clutches with zero issues..  :fighting2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Msportman on February 23, 2010, 08:30:43 pm
I've heard off DSG clutch pack issues from 2 tuners with car's running big power.

1200USD seems more than reasonable but I assume there's labour to consider on top.

With that amount of power running through the drivetrain and the extra stress a diff brings to the clutch assembly for peace of mind I'd like to see an uprated clutch in there. You just never know when they will give up!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on February 28, 2010, 06:25:31 pm
I've heard off DSG clutch pack issues from 2 tuners with car's running big power.

1200USD seems more than reasonable but I assume there's labour to consider on top.

With that amount of power running through the drivetrain and the extra stress a diff brings to the clutch assembly for peace of mind I'd like to see an uprated clutch in there. You just never know when they will give up!

 :indifferent: Are you intentionally doing this??
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: chungster on February 28, 2010, 06:32:22 pm
I've heard off DSG clutch pack issues from 2 tuners with car's running big power.

1200USD seems more than reasonable but I assume there's labour to consider on top.

With that amount of power running through the drivetrain and the extra stress a diff brings to the clutch assembly for peace of mind I'd like to see an uprated clutch in there. You just never know when they will give up!

 :indifferent: Are you intentionally doing this??


doubt it he's already sold his car i think! And wasn't it a manual anyway? (not that i care really!)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: alexandru on March 01, 2010, 04:49:42 pm
as far as i know his ed 30 was/is DSG
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Top Cat on March 01, 2010, 05:03:50 pm
Right lets tidy this up.  :rolleye:

I wonder if Jonny's dsg clutch pack was showing any signs of needing a beef'd up version with all that torque??

Saint Steve was being mischievous.  :fighting:

I've heard off DSG clutch pack issues from 2 tuners with car's running big power.

1200USD seems more than reasonable but I assume there's labour to consider on top.

With that amount of power running through the drivetrain and the extra stress a diff brings to the clutch assembly for peace of mind I'd like to see an uprated clutch in there. You just never know when they will give up!

M Sportsman saw a chance and also jumped in.  :fighting:

I've heard off DSG clutch pack issues from 2 tuners with car's running big power.

1200USD seems more than reasonable but I assume there's labour to consider on top.

With that amount of power running through the drivetrain and the extra stress a diff brings to the clutch assembly for peace of mind I'd like to see an uprated clutch in there. You just never know when they will give up!

 :indifferent: Are you intentionally doing this??


doubt it he's already sold his car i think! And wasn't it a manual anyway? (not that i care really!)

Chungster only comes on every now and then so couldn't spot the dig from MR not so Sportsman.  :popcornsoda:

as far as i know his ed 30 was/is DSG

^^  And Chungster was talking about M Sportsmans car not Jonny's.  :laugh:

There clear as mud.  :star:

Basically the outcome of all this is Jonny's ED 30 DSG box is working fine and has been looked after with no cost spared, which can be backed up by his visits to VWR for regular oil changes on the box.
If in the future the box needs uprated clutches then that would be for the new buyer to deal with, if it is working fine now then i cant see what more the lad can do.
So can people stop trying to put a spanner in someone's sale without any evidence backing up there thoughts.  :fighting2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 01, 2010, 05:13:32 pm
Thanks for that TC..  :congrats:  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 02, 2010, 06:14:19 am
X2  :congrats:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Msportman on March 08, 2010, 11:23:46 am
Mine was manual car but if were me buying I'd like to see an uprated clutch pack with those figures Johnny which are very healthy.

Have you any serious offers yet? Modded cars can take a while to shift as I found out previously.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 08, 2010, 12:04:10 pm
Mine was manual car but if were me buying I'd like to see an uprated clutch pack with those figures Johnny which are very healthy.

Have you any serious offers yet? Modded cars can take a while to shift as I found out previously.

I had a deposit on the car within 2 days of it being for sale..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jabbalad on March 08, 2010, 12:08:24 pm
Good job its Jonnys car to sell then  :happy2:


Usually its easer to sell a car the more "one off" it is (as long as its not barry boys one off) so im not really surprised its gone pretty quick!, my Audi A3 i used to have had 4 people waiting for me to sell it.... then when i said i wanted to sell it, it was sold within 4 days!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 08, 2010, 12:20:48 pm
Good job its Jonnys car to sell then  :happy2:


Usually its easer to sell a car the more "one off" it is (as long as its not barry boys one off) so im not really surprised its gone pretty quick!, my Audi A3 i used to have had 4 people waiting for me to sell it.... then when i said i wanted to sell it, it was sold within 4 days!

My old Suprrcharged Civic sold the day I put it up for sale, The S3 (the first time round) went up on the Thursday and left the Sunday.. The second time round it was never up for sale, I was offered money from 4 different people just based on the build thread.. And the Golf I had 3 offers within a couple of hours of it being up for sale.. Either I'm lucky or like you say if you do it right then it's easy..

Either way I'm really happy with the new owner, he seems a great guy and fully appriciates the work that has gone into the car! I know it sounds daft but after putting so much effort into something I want to feel like it will be looked after to the level of which it deserves..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Pmoky gti on March 08, 2010, 12:28:36 pm
did vick buy your car?
guy with corrado
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jabbalad on March 08, 2010, 12:44:42 pm
Good job its Jonnys car to sell then  :happy2:


Usually its easer to sell a car the more "one off" it is (as long as its not barry boys one off) so im not really surprised its gone pretty quick!, my Audi A3 i used to have had 4 people waiting for me to sell it.... then when i said i wanted to sell it, it was sold within 4 days!

My old Suprrcharged Civic sold the day I put it up for sale, The S3 (the first time round) went up on the Thursday and left the Sunday.. The second time round it was never up for sale, I was offered money from 4 different people just based on the build thread.. And the Golf I had 3 offers within a couple of hours of it being up for sale.. Either I'm lucky or like you say if you do it right then it's easy..

Either way I'm really happy with the new owner, he seems a great guy and fully appriciates the work that has gone into the car! I know it sounds daft but after putting so much effort into something I want to feel like it will be looked after to the level of which it deserves..

Yea like you say, the build thread speaks for itself... people can see that corners haven't been cut!  :smiley:
If its the person that i think has got it, it has gone into good hands.... good to hear hes going to carry on the development too...  :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 08, 2010, 12:46:35 pm
did vick buy your car?
guy with corrado

Nope..

Yea like you say, the build thread speaks for itself... people can see that corners haven't been cut!  :smiley:
If its the person that i think has got it, it has gone into good hands.... good to hear hes going to carry on the development too...  :wink:

Haha.. We will see, he may be on here to say hello at some point..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Saint Steve on March 08, 2010, 02:39:39 pm
Be good if you do stick around Jonny, even though youve sold up fella :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: RedRobin on March 09, 2010, 09:07:35 am

I know it sounds daft but after putting so much effort into something I want to feel like it will be looked after to the level of which it deserves..


....Doesn't sound daft to me (but some will say I'm daft anyway). Although a car is just a machine, when you have put effort into customising/modding it and you are very pleased with what those mods add to the joy of driving that car, it develops an individual personality. You look after it and it looks after you. You feel 'at one' with it. It's almost spiritual.
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: 94Luke on March 09, 2010, 04:50:42 pm

I know it sounds daft but after putting so much effort into something I want to feel like it will be looked after to the level of which it deserves..


....Doesn't sound daft to me (but some will say I'm daft anyway). Although a car is just a machine, when you have put effort into customising/modding it and you are very pleased with what those mods add to the joy of driving that car, it develops an individual personality. You look after it and it looks after you. You feel 'at one' with it. It's almost spiritual.

I'm glad that this forum has like minded people, I'm fed up of explaining to those who don't get it!! "Those who ask will never understand..."
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: alexandru on March 09, 2010, 04:53:08 pm
i've heard something about a new project :)

... 2.5 turbo :P
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 09, 2010, 05:15:56 pm
.... and it's certainly not a Focus ST either...  :grin: But does have the 5 pot sound.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: candy turbo on March 09, 2010, 05:27:23 pm
did vick buy your car?
guy with corrado
no , he brought my old one !! :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Poppa Dom on March 09, 2010, 05:31:11 pm
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 09, 2010, 06:42:50 pm
"Those who ask will never understand..."

DubKid - 2010

 :congrats:

 :wink:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: cuprak1 on March 18, 2010, 10:33:50 am
Pics of the new car?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: stealthwolf on March 19, 2010, 04:07:19 am
Goddammit!!!

I spent the last four hours (insomnia) reading this thread start to finish only to find jonnyc's sold the car!!! :fighting2: It's like boning the girl of your dreams but not getting a 'crisis'!

Anyway this thread has been an immense journey. Started off quick paced but steady until around page 70-something, after which it just went exponential! Would have been great to have seen some figures, some video and even see it in real life. A one-of-a-kind car.

What are you getting next and where's the build thread?
PS what was the insurance like on the car?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: joesgti on March 19, 2010, 12:30:45 pm
Geez!! you must have some serious sleep problems!! (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysmiley.net%2Fimgs%2Fsmile%2Fscared%2Fscared0015.gif&hash=9c6f69782032e26f9726ccb928db47b6aa0830b7) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-facebook-smileys.php)
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: stealthwolf on March 19, 2010, 12:44:15 pm
It's nightshifts that screw me up. Takes me a good 3 days to get back to normal but they only give us two...
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Tahiti on March 20, 2010, 02:14:19 pm
What a thread!  What a car!
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 22, 2010, 03:19:27 pm
Pics of the new car?  :laugh:

http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=3128  :happy2:

Goddammit!!!

I spent the last four hours (insomnia) reading this thread start to finish only to find jonnyc's sold the car!!! :fighting2: It's like boning the girl of your dreams but not getting a 'crisis'!

Anyway this thread has been an immense journey. Started off quick paced but steady until around page 70-something, after which it just went exponential! Would have been great to have seen some figures, some video and even see it in real life. A one-of-a-kind car.

What are you getting next and where's the build thread?
PS what was the insurance like on the car?

Haha.. Good job reading the whole thing! I have found myself looking back over it to remind myself what I have done time to time!!

I have a TT-RS now.. You can find the build here.. http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=3128

Insurance was fine, about £850 I think..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on March 22, 2010, 03:25:43 pm
Good Job at Sebring Jonny. Watched it on Motors TV. Thought it was as funny as fcuk when the interviewer called you Joe Cocker :signLOL:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 22, 2010, 03:26:54 pm
Good Job at Sebring Jonny. Watched it on Motors TV. Thought it was as funny as fcuk when the interviewer called you Joe Cocker :signLOL:

Lol he's a di*k  :grin: Obviously fancies himself as a comedian haha..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: GTIjames on March 22, 2010, 03:34:10 pm
i was at santa pod on sunday Jonny - as I was leaving your ed30 pulled up

you sold it now or someone borrowing it
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 22, 2010, 03:36:46 pm
i was at santa pod on sunday Jonny - as I was leaving your ed30 pulled up

you sold it now or someone borrowing it

Yup, car is now sold on.. Much to a few peoples distress..  :scared:  :wink:

Yeah he was at Pod on Sunday, think he's already done a couple of bits  :smiley:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: GTIjames on March 22, 2010, 03:42:25 pm
congrats on the sale  :happy2:

didnt stick around to see what times it was running unfortunately as i had a row with a steward..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Hurdy on March 22, 2010, 03:42:48 pm
Oooh, wonder what times he got?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on March 22, 2010, 03:47:06 pm
congrats on the sale  :happy2:

didnt stick around to see what times it was running unfortunately as i had a row with a steward..

I dont know if he ran or not? Im just as interested to know! lol..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 23, 2010, 09:04:58 am
Did you run James? If so did you manage to break into the 12's?  :jumping:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: GTIjames on March 23, 2010, 09:22:51 am
didnt have the best day - it was packed for starters ques all the way down the country road which leads to the pod and i arrived at 9am..

car pack was full and they started diverting people into the fields including me so tyres got caked in mud, eventually got round to the sign on office and after about a 1hr wait in the que for the strip got my first run against a nissan gtr dont know the time but i beat it  :jumpmove:

then jumped straight back in the que and after another 45 minute wait got to the front for the steward to tell me my tyres and arches had mud on and they wouldnt let me up so had to reverse out  :fighting:

there was another que for the jet wash so just gave up and went home but not until i had shouted abuse at the steward who directed me into the field in the first place  :fighting:

thats when I saw jonnyc's ex ed30 arriving  :happy2:

will check the times on the website when they publish them http://www.thefastshow.com/ (http://www.thefastshow.com/)


Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 23, 2010, 09:40:46 am
Mate, how fooking annoying  :fighting: :fighting:. As much as I love Pod, the organisation there at times could be bettered by using chimps IMO. I try to stay clear of the shows for running now, as like you say the queues can become a joke.
My last run there was at the Fast show last year where I got my PB and I only managed 3 runs in 6 hours  :stupid:
I will still go to some of the shows, but if I want a days running to improve on times, I will just stick to RWYB..  :wink:
How did you think your only run went mate, good or bad?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: GTIjames on March 23, 2010, 10:02:47 am
my only run wasnt the best   :sad1:  prob late 13s/early 14s

couldnt engage launch control at the start so bogged down a bit and changed from 1st to 2nd too early

dont no what the nissan gtr driver was doing he was even worse than me  :chicken:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Johnson10 on April 04, 2010, 04:02:39 pm
Im trying to follow Jonny's thread over on that other websie but the method of registering is useles.. put's me in a queue for activation or something and ive tried using various emails to no use..

Does someone have account details that they wouldnt mind me using just so i can read the thread?
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 04, 2010, 04:20:55 pm
Im trying to follow Jonny's thread over on that other websie but the method of registering is useles.. put's me in a queue for activation or something and ive tried using various emails to no use..

Does someone have account details that they wouldnt mind me using just so i can read the thread?

Ill look into that for you mate and get it sorted out..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: Johnson10 on April 04, 2010, 05:02:45 pm
Im trying to follow Jonny's thread over on that other websie but the method of registering is useles.. put's me in a queue for activation or something and ive tried using various emails to no use..

Does someone have account details that they wouldnt mind me using just so i can read the thread?

Ill look into that for you mate and get it sorted out..

Cheers mate, my username ive tried is J10  :happy2:
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: jonnyc on April 04, 2010, 05:11:45 pm
Im trying to follow Jonny's thread over on that other websie but the method of registering is useles.. put's me in a queue for activation or something and ive tried using various emails to no use..

Does someone have account details that they wouldnt mind me using just so i can read the thread?

Ill look into that for you mate and get it sorted out..

Cheers mate, my username ive tried is J10  :happy2:

Ok its being looked at for you.. Seems you had already registered a couple of times with the same email so that was causing problems..
Title: Re: Jonnyc's MK5 ED30 Build Thread..
Post by: KieranM on October 22, 2015, 01:40:13 am
Just read the whole thread and that's an amazing car! I presume Jonny no longer uses this site so does anyone know what happened to this car?